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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 201

                   Sunday, 23 July 2000

Topics:

                      kneel Diamond
         Filthy Scarecrows Waving Broomstick Arms
              Stick me with your rhythm hit
                      Re: 5 cds, eh?
                       Styx Stynx!
                   Stycking Up For Styx
        Something there is that loves a train song
                       Yes, indeed
                Something for the weekend
                     Those Damn Kids!
              Kevin Gilbert: Where to start?
                          Errata
                 wasp star: the musical?
                         Topper!
                       Soundalikes
                      One More Time?
                     Re: Alien Music
        Did I write this subject... or did Relph?

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Enough with the Alien Love Feast, I mean, Desert Island Discs.
Next time, I'll kill the thread before it starts.  Yeah, right.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 00:01:03 EDT
From: CaptBeanheart@aol.com
Subject: kneel Diamond
Message-ID: <b6.8235aa2.26a924ff@aol.com>

mr diamond

>Harry Dick and the Stiffs
>Johnny Capp and the Rubbers
>John Thomas and the Wankers
>Penis

its on my mind its in my hand
im going blind please understand
therapy
please

the capt

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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 22:15:23 EDT
From: "Kevin Diamond" <kev_boy@hotmail.com>
Subject: Filthy Scarecrows Waving Broomstick Arms
Message-ID: <LAW-F2597oLEDrh1zcp00001700@hotmail.com>

Once a boy named Mr. Me bemoaned a great regret:

>Cory
>
>"Every pile of person has a thinking part that wonders what the >part that
>isn't thinking, isn't thinking of."
>--TMBG

Great qoute, I love that song. Unfortunetly that's not entirely correct. The
actual lyric is "Every JUMBLED pile of person has a thinking part... etc".
Great song from an incredibler album.

Man. Fenboy dissed Beck, Belle and Sebastian, AND Nick Drake in ONE post!
I'm curious to see if he survives! But in all seriousness, your argument
against Beck is odd cause I have a different proble. I loved Midnight
Vultures, and now I'm disapointed cause none of his other albums sound like
that one! But I've come to realize that they're all unique and special in
their own ways. I don't have all of them yet, but I am listening too and
enjoying Mutations as I type this.

Kevin "but I don't really care for 'One Foot In The Grave' all that much"
Diamond

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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 22:08:14 -0500
From: David Lake <blushift@earthlink.net>
Subject: Stick me with your rhythm hit
Message-ID: <3977BE9D.5B98DD3C@earthlink.net>
Organization: Blushift Productions

To paraphrase Misty's paraphrasing:
>To paraphrase Dave in the Play At Home video,
>it's not so easy to write a hit;
>if it was, everybody would be doing it.

I have to disagree.
ANYONE can write a hit.  Production and Promotion are the real bitch...
It's all a matter of perspective and opinion on the original material.

Any who do not agree with this opinion must hide in a small, dark corner
for 48 hours humming a song from any recent boy band while grasping an
autographed picture of Casey Kasem.

BTW, anyone notice that you can sing 'Baby, One More Time' note-4-note,
word-4-word along with 'Oops, I did it again'?  Heard a girl a work do
it.  It's more like 'Oops, I ripped off my song'

David (sometimes goes by Spanky)
Oh, XTC rocks!

   "Depending on whichever book you read,
     Sometimes it takes a lifetime to get what you need"
    -- Aimee Mann

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 00:39:38 -0400
From: "Brian" <mattone@bhip.infi.net>
Subject: Re: 5 cds, eh?
Message-ID: <009d01bff2cd$afb119e0$54e49cd1@Brian>

Tschalkgerz!

My list of five desert island CD's (I hope one of those palm trees has an
outlet...):

XTC - 'English Settlement' (my XTC turn-on)
Juan Carlos Esquivel - 'Space Age Bachelor Pad Music' (when stereo was new!)
Oingo Boingo - 'Nothing To Fear' (can't get enough "Grey Matter")
Rise Robots Rise - self-titled
ABC - 'The Lexicon Of Love' (fab pop)

-Brian Matthews

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 00:46:47 EDT
From: Robeach11@aol.com
Subject: Styx Stynx!
Message-ID: <c3.78561be.26a92fb7@aol.com>

<< >I dare anybody to say ANYTHING good
 >about Styx.

 Okay.  I'll say two good things, then.
 1.  The packaging of the first pressing of Paradise Theater was, like,
 totally righteous!  Especially with that "laser etching" on side two!
 2.  They aren't recording, anymore.  That's pretty nice! >>

OK. I stand corrected. You are 100% right.

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 00:52:42 EDT
From: Robeach11@aol.com
Subject: Stycking Up For Styx
Message-ID: <a1.85e50bf.26a9311a@aol.com>

<< Well, "Mr. Roboto" does have it's uses in a "bad-funny" sort of way.
 Especially if you're very drunk and there's at least one person present who
 has no capacity for the whole "bad-funny" sort of thing, and you can dance
 around laughing at the lyrics while s/he begs you to stop playing it... >>

I must agree with you as well.

Rob
Carson, Ca

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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 22:34:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ryan Anthony <hamsterranch@yahoo.com>
Subject: Something there is that loves a train song
Message-ID: <20000721053422.27523.qmail@web122.yahoomail.com>

Splendid news! Everyone loves train songs, right? Aw,
sure you do. Look at the photos in the booklet to *The
Big Express* if you need help getting in the mood.

*Freight Train Blues: Class Railroad Songs, Volume 4*
has been released by Rounder Records. Compiled and
annotated at length by Michael Hyatt, programmer
extraordinaire at Tucson's seventeen-year-old
noncommercial community radio station, KXCI-FM, this
fourth disc in the series admittedly stretches the
definition of "classic," carrying fourteen recordings
of the past twenty-five years.

Artists include Don Edwards (I'd buy a triple-CD set
of him snoring), Marty Stuart, Kate Campbell, Joe Ely,
Laurie Lewis & Kathy Kallick, NRBQ, Asleep at the
Wheel, Pure Prairie League, Doc & Merle Watson, and
G.G. Allin with Terry and the Lovemen.

Just wanted to see if you were paying attention.

Volume 3 is packed with rhythm and/or blues; Volume 4
is dedicated to songs by country, western, and
bluegrass artists. Yes, Hyatt gives each album a
unique theme, and the intent is laudable;
unfortunately, the result is segregation. Volume 3 is
black; Volume 4 is white. I'd like to puree the albums
together as some of you have volunteered to do with
*Apple Venus* and *Wasp Star*.

Hyatt told me today that Rounder Records, pleased with
sales so far, has agreed to bankroll a fifth album in
the series. How many will there be? As many as
possible. Some three years ago, when the first two
volumes hit the racks, Hyatt told me he could easily
fill ten CDs; Divine Providence and Rounder willing,
he will get the chance.

Obligatory disclaimer: I have no financial interest in
any of this; I speak strictly as a fan of the music,
of KXCI, and of Mike Hyatt.

Speaking of Tucson, sorta: Chalk-brother Erik
Schlichting, a cartographer by trade, recently offered
to plot the physical locations of all 'Hillers on a
map. I e-mailed him (eschlichting@xtremeol.com) with
my coordinates, and I hope every one of you does the
same. At last I will know: Does anyone on this list
live within 500 miles of me, or are the rest of you
clustered in Delaware, Swindon, and Japan?

Ryan Anthony, an independent Internet content provider

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 00:55:45 EDT
From: Robeach11@aol.com
Subject: Yes, indeed
Message-ID: <64.4d68ec1.26a931d1@aol.com>

I<< They reintroduced the pageboy cut to a grateful public. >>

You guys keep provin' me wrong! Damn!

Rob
Carson, Ca

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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:21:15 PDT
From: "Duncan Kimball" <dunks58@hotmail.com>
Subject: Something for the weekend
Message-ID: <20000721062115.32156.qmail@hotmail.com>

For your pleasure:

1. All this discussion of 20-somethings: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

2. The Chicago Thread: stop it or you'll go blind!

3. Robert Plan(e)t: Chris Robinson, while a good performer in his own right,
is not fit to tie Robert Plant's shoelaces, if you ask me. I saw Black
Crowes + Pagey on Conan last week and they really sucked. I'm sure Page
loves the idolatry, but frankly his solo was terrible. IMO if anyone in that
band lost his chops, it's Pagey, not Plant.

* * *

Kerry Chicoine - well done on the obscure lyric ID. I thought I'd leave that
one to another Chalker, since "Mental Notes" is one of my all-time faves and
it was just too easy. 10/10 -- and kudos for your good taste.

* * *

From: Steve Dockery <sdockery@gte.net>

>And how anyone can sit through an entire Doors song is beyond my
>comprehension.

HUH?? [see below]

* * *

From: James Ferrell <ferrell@cmgm.stanford.edu>
Subject: Early bloomers? Late bloomers?

>(1) Bands that peaked with their first release.
>My nominees include--

>Rickie Lee Jones
I take your point, but don't entirely agree. There have been great things on
all her albums, and I agree with ?Kevin? that "Pirates" was terrific too.
But there is that certain *something* about the first LP that is hard to
beat.

>The Roches
Sad but true, in the strict sense of your thesis, James - but extra points
for naming one of my other all-time favourite albums.

[If anyone has not heard The Roches debut (produced by Robert Fripp) - just
get it. Wondrous doesn't even come close. Their singing throughout, and
especially on "The Hammond Song" is so heartbreakingly beautiful it defies
description, and their voices mesh as only siblings can. (A MUST for Beach
Boys fans). And it's a damn funny record too.]

But the second album  not even close.

>maybe The Doors

... *again* with The Doors? [see below]

>maybe Jimi Hendrix

And maybe monkeys might fly outta my butt! I defy anyone to listen seriously
to his playing on the "Band Of Gypsys" live recording of  'Machine Gun'and
then tell me this guy peaked on his first album. What bollocks!! (And what
about "Electric Ladyland" fer chrissakes???)

>(2) Bands that peaked with their last release.
>The Beatles

"Flabbey Road"? Bwahahahahahhahahaha.

* * *

Kevin Diamond -- Thanks, for your spirited defence of David Byrne. "Rei
Momo" and "Uh-Oh" are great albums. I saw him in concert around the time
"Uh-Oh" was released. He was f***ing brillant, funny as hell, and the band
were just stupendous.

* * *

I agree with Tom Kingston. The Thompson Twins were quite OK, at least early
on. "In The Name Of Love" was a great pop single, I thought; I still play it
now and again. There was one other early one that was quite good but I
forget it now.

And who'd have thought King Trigger would pop up in the discussion. Geez,
what next? Rip Rig & Panic?

* * *

From: Poisongold@aol.com
Subject: Re: What is the best Xtc album to listen to while very intoxicated?

>Unquestionably, The Big Express.

Concisely - YEAH!
(I remember being totally blow away by 'Reign Of Blows' on my walkman,
REALLY LOUD, while I was  well, never mind.)

* * *

Someone nong said:
>Beck - So he fuses oh so many different styles and influences.. Not >much
>fucking good if you cant write tunes.

Do I even need to dignify this with an answer?

Then he asked:

>Questions I want answers to..............

>1. Why does everyone dribble over Pet Sounds while Sunflower is a far
>better album?

Because it isn't

>2. Am I the only one who doesnt 'get' Nick zzzzzzzz Drake?

Yes

>3. Am I going to get spat open for saying i quite like Pearl Jam. esp Ten
>and V's? (Im going to buy a raincoat for this)

No sympathy for self-inflicted wounds

>4. I am going to get spat at for saying that Wasp Star is average.
>(not a  question really but who cares)

Yes.

>5. Who else hates Richard E Grant?

He makes me laugh. What's your problem?

>will go and lie down.

Yeah, you'd better. :p

* * *

Right then - The Doors. Alright people, can someone -- in a reasoned and
reasonable fashion - please explain to me why this band are routinely
excoriated on this list? (Is it partly a case of familiarity breeding
contempt for Yankee Chalkers?) I didn't really grow up with them -
regrettably, Australian radio in the early 70s found things like The Doors a
little hard to chew, so we never heard much early on. It wasn't until the
advent of FM in the late 70s that any major airplay happened here, and even
then it was mostly the predictable "greatest hits" - Riders, Touch Me, Break
On Through

My introduction to this band was through friends, firstly via the debut LP,
which I will defend to the death as a GREAT album, and especially through
"Absolutely Live" which I still think is one of the most underrated albums
of all time, and a fantastic document of the many facets of this fine band.
It shows aspects of their performance - especially the humour - which seem
to escape most people, and is worth its weight in gold if only for the
scorching version of "Who Do You Love?" (come on folks, Krieger was a SHIT
HOT guitarist) and particularly for the incredible live version of
"Celebration Of The Lizard". (You can blather on about prog rock all you
like, but these guys made the template for stuff like "Supper's Ready" while
Genesis were still in short pants.) And what about the fat groove they get
cooking on during the intro to "Break On Through #2" -  I mean, these guys
were FUNKY. Densmore would be my dream drummer any day. Hugely underrated
player IMO, skilful AND tasteful (which drummers often aren't at the same
time).

(Molly can I borrow that fireproof suit after you?)

Dunks

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 00:14:17 -0700
From: Jim Allen <karnevil9@loop.com>
Subject: Those Damn Kids!
Message-ID: <4.3.2.7.0.20000720234347.00b16cf0@pop.loop.com>

Hello:

Derek Miner wrote:
>I've read several critiques of the Beatles' work, and I agree with
>those who chart an upward creative progress to Sgt. Pepper and then
>take them downward to the end. For some reason, this seems right to
>me.

I love Mark Lewisohn's book "The Beatles Abbey Road" sessions.  It's kind
of clear that after they finished "Sgt. Pepper" they were quite lost
musically.  Also, the death of Brian Epstein didn't help things
either.  There's even a line of thought that says that "Revolver" is their
Everest and that "Sgt. Pepper" was a pale reworking of it. Hmmmm........

>I once read a commentary that slagged
>"While My Guitar Gently Weeps" as the harbinger of bloated
>70s guitar rock. That's an inflamatory statement, but one I thought
>was pretty much right.

What about the claim that "Helter Skelter" is the first Metal song?  I'd
hate to blame Macca's nice little ditty for being the reason that Motley
Crue et al exist(ed); all that Manson-related stuff is unpleasant enough!

>I'm much more impressed with the solo acoustic
>demo that Harrison recorded. If the Beatles had done one more album,
>I'm darn near certain their stature would be less in my eyes.

Er, well, for me, I always conveniently "forget" that "Let It Be" was by
The Beatles.  Even though it was recorded before "Abbey Road" that might be
your 'one more album'.

James R. wrote:
>Belle And Sebastian - sounds like a re-run of decades
>past with the exception of their obviously up-to-date
>lyrics.  Still, they've released a rather large and
>quite excellent catalog considering they've been
>around less than 5 years

I love B&S to bits.  Once I got over the fact that they were lo-fi and
weren't overly concerned with singing exactly on pitch 100% of the time,
I've really grown to love them.  Great songs and frankly, any band that
starts an album with the couplet

He had a stroke at the age of 24/
It could have been a brilliant career

is a winner in my book.  Profuse apologies if this really happened to
someone you loved.

Randy wrote about the band Thinking Plague:
>Female voice, Crimson meets Gentile Giant times 10.  If you
>haven't puked yet you'll love them.

I know it was a typo but I L'dOL when I saw "Gentile" Giant.  So, all these
years I've been in to the Jewish version of that incredible--no smirking
from you lot in the back----prog rock band? :-) :-)

Harry wrote:
>If ask ask me it was when Topper left that the Clash went south.  Is Topper
>still driving a cab?

He's alive in any case.  Terrible heroin addiction which he has kicked, has
Hep C etc.  Not pretty.  I saw The Clash 5 times in 1982 with Terry Chimes
as the drummer and they were amazing.  Oh what they must have been like
live in 1979.............

Megan, amongst other things wrote:
>about a year \ago I watched the film "Parting Glances", a mid-eighties
>film with
>Steve Buscemi which was groundbreaking in its portrayal of gay men in New
>York and an AIDS victim.

What a great movie that is!  Probably still one of the 3 or 4 best
gay-themed movies ever--yeah, I know, the competition isn't much really---
but it's still just terrific.

In a slight twist on the "Those Damn Kids" thread, variously lamenting and
defending early 20 somethings---I'm 40 and if it wasn't for my younger
brother back in 1980, it'd have taken me many more years to get in to
XTC.  He had "Black Sea" because of "Generals and Majors", I heard it one
day and I was hooked immediately.  And this was at the height of my Prog
Snob days---fortunately long gone---where if it wasn't 20 minutes long, had
a guitar solo with 8 billion notes in it and more key/time changes than a
Mahler symphony I wasn't interested.  I still think ELP are good though!
:-) :-)

Regards,
Jim

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Date: Thu, 20 Jul 2000 23:44:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ryan Anthony <hamsterranch@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kevin Gilbert: Where to start?
Message-ID: <20000721064423.26883.qmail@web119.yahoomail.com>

Gotta question for you people. I've run across enough
references to Kevin Gilbert to become curious. At his
eponymic website, three albums are available: *Kevin
Gilbert & Thud Live*, *Giraffe*, and *The Shaming of
the True*. Which would you recommend to start?

I don't know if I really read this here, or whether
I'd done too many Diet Mountain Dews that day, but did
Gilbert and his band really rip through most or all of
*The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway*, and is that
performance available on CD, eight-track tape, or
Edison cylinder?

Ryan "I Am the Hamster From the Ministry" Anthony

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:22:54 +0200
From: jeffrey.thomas.jt@bayer-ag.de
Subject: Errata
Message-ID: <0006800027918549000002L092*@MHS>

Dear Readers of Chalkhills,

In a recent posting, I inaccurately referred to the singer of the worst
song in the universe as being named "Shitney Dallas".  This was incorrect,
and I would like to apologize to the singer and to her fans for any
inconvenience or confusion this mistake might have caused.  The correct
name should have been "Pratt & Whitney Ft. Worth", a name allowing even the
non-listener immediate access to essential information concerning both her
vocal style (first name) and her bank account (last name).

Again, I would like to apologize *deeply*, HUMBLY...

...and now, *everybody sing* (full throttle, all engines):
EYE-eee-EYE-eee-EYE will al-waze love YOU-oo-OOO-oo-ooo-oo-oo-WOHa!!!

That song rocks.

- Jeff

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 05:38:10 0000
From: "Peter Bresnick" <peytonplace66@lycos.com>
Subject: wasp star: the musical?
Message-ID: <LLJDPEKBNAFHEAAA@mailcity.com>
Organization: Lycos Communications (http://comm.lycos.com:80)

I've gotten into the habit of listening to my favorite albums and
imagining a plot underlying the sequence of songs. Skylarking was easy
to listen to that way and flowed like a "concept album." By the way,
what is the concept of the album everyone calls the original concept
album, "Sgt. Pepper's"? I actually have no idea what story lies
there. Anyway, besides Queen's

"Sheer Heart Attack", "Wasp Star" has been my latest obsession. Here's
the story it suggested to me, unfolding in my mind not unlike a dream:

Setting: London, 1974, summer
Imagine "Playground" as an overture, setting the tone for the
show. Angela works hard for a living and is sick of husband Charlie's
lack of responsibility. She makes him sign the divorce paper as she
kicks him out of the house. He is sentimental and wants to know what
will become of their African statue of the warrior with the giant
phallus; a gag engagement gift.

He hikes to Hyde Park, meets young hippie, Debi, and has carefree fun
in the park ("Stupidly Happy"). Meanwhile, old-monied Derek Keith woos
Angela ("Another Life"). Charlie wakes up in Debi's flat and sings
while she sleeps ("My Brown Guitar"). He discovers her dead (OD?) and
sadly hits the street again. Nighttime on the street and Daniel,
out-of-work musician, is dragging along with Sweeney Todd-like
shopkeepers peeking out from behind storefronts("Boarded Up"). Charlie
and Daniel meet and commiserate about exploitation and the sad state
of the world until the sun comes up and they do a "Singing in the
Rain" kind of thing tipping garbage cans and all ("ITMWML").

They meet some other homeless musicians, Joe and Debi2, find a squat,
and do a "Three Little Words" type thing (a scene about writing a
song), writing "We're All Light", and performing it in the park. They
get arrested for disturbing the peace and somehow get
separated. Charlie is in jail, Daniel alone, and Joe and Debi2
dissappear--Charlie thinking he has been betrayed ("Standing in for
Joe").

Charlie gets out, sees Angela with Derek Keith in a carraige on the
town, as Daniel still writes him in prison--letters Charlie will never
receive ("Wounded Horse").

Charlie heads to the house, breaks in, sees the unsigned divorce paper
and a quill pen on the desk, breaks the pen in two and grabs the
warrior statue.

He is out of control insane, running around the grounds, hoping to
reconcile with Angela ("You and the Clouds Will Still Be
Beautiful"). He ends up on the back patio, looking into the bedroom
window, behind which Angela stands at the mirror. They reflect one
another as Charlie becomes her, a drag queen chorus appears, a huge
model of the statue flies in with a giant wasp for the phallus,  and
Charlie hacks up Derek Keith ("Church of Women").

Daniel shows up, having tracked down Joe and Debi2 and they do a quick
revival ritual.The thankful zombie, Derek Keith, agrees to pay for the
band to do a music video. The closing scene has them filming the video
to "The Wheel and the Maypole", Angela and zombie Derek on the set,
with an encore of "Playground" as the closing.

I think it would be so fun to see and hear such a thing.
Yours in Fantasy,
Peyton

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:24:41 +0200
From: "Clinton, Martin" <martin.clinton@dnb.no>
Subject: Topper!
Message-ID: <200007210828.BAA07232@sgi.com>

Hi There,

Harry wrote:
======================
I bet everyone was waiting for a ripping version of "Rock the Casbah". Well,
that song was Topper Headon.  Mick played the guitar and Joe sang and form
what I hear the rest was our dear friend Topper.  If you watch the "Should I
Stay..." video you will notice they could barely get through that musical
workout (the video was live on the '82 tour).  Most people point to Mick
Jones' departure as when the Clash lost it.  If you ask me it was when
Topper left that the Clash went south.  Is Topper
still driving a cab?
======================

I agree Harry, from what I've read (mostly interviews with the band), Topper
was the most technically gifted of the band....I remember reading about Rock
the Casbah, and Mick Jones saying 'That was Topper'....a shame he went
really.

As for his whereabouts, a recent-ish Mick Jones online chat from
http://casbahclub.tripod.com/badlands/index.html had the following:

==========================
vickyverky_2000 asks: Mick, do you still keep in contact with Topper?
MJ: Over Christmas I did have the chance to speak to him, yeah, and then I
saw him on TV doing this top ten punk show. I know he's sort of moved out of
the country.
rockabillyken asks: Can you comment on Topper's health?
MJ: He looked well, got a bit of a tan going as well.

All the best
Martin

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:52:57 +0100
From: "Smith, David" <David.Smith@tfeurope.com>
Subject: Soundalikes
Message-ID: <4BBE67B71C1DD411A23600508B65F71E686038@tfsecmsg04.tfseur.co.uk>

Wotcha Hillers

A lot's been made recently about ITMWML sounding like The Loving
and Statue of Liberty among others.

That one slipped by me on my first thousand listens - but one that
struck me was the similarity in the opening riffs of Wheel & Maypole
and Then She Appeared. Not a problem however, they're two of my
favourite tracks ever ever ever!

***
FWIW, my view on Sinatra . . . at his best (early career) he was a
standout artist. As he aged, he lapsed into a comfort zone and then
found a formula to relaunch his career, which he stuck with 'cos it
brought in the loot. As a comparison, Elvis hit phases one and two
and was looking steadfastly forward to phase three when he took his
early dump.

I think you will find this argument with a lot of "prolific" artists. From
Sinatra and Elvis, through the Beatles and Stones right up to Prince,
the more they put out, the more you have to sort the wheat from the
chaff. But hey, the wheat is usually some serious grain.

***
Fenboy asked "am I the only person who doesn't get Nick Drake". Err,
nope - does nowt for me either. Was recently lent Five Leaves Left and
I tried - I really did - but I was mentally switching off a few tracks in
cos (as the old Motown classic says) it's the same old song.

Just too wispy and fey for my taste. Most of Elliot Smith's stuff falls into
the same category for me.

Oh, and "who else hates Richard E Grant"? Why everybody, of course!

***

Derek Miner said
	so that the loudness of the track is almost exactly the same level
	as the peaks

Dear colleagues, let us now pray and mourn the passing of our dear, departed
friend, the crescendo.

I listened to Danse Macabre by Saint-Saens the other day for the first
time in ages. What a brilliant piece of "pop" classical music. I
reckon it's Saint-Saens' fault the crescendo died - he worked it to
death!

***

And finally, here's a reason why I personally LOVE Napster (please
don't open the argument again - I just need to talk about this
record). I just managed to find and download the original (1950s I
believe) recording of "I Only Have Eyes For You" by the
Flamingos. Sheesh, talk about doo wop and close harmonies at their
best. If I ever find anyone dumb enough to want to marry me, this is
the record I want for the "first dance".

I am now smudged.

Smudgeboy
E-Mail: david.smith@tfeurope.com

"I drink a bottle of Hennessy you got on the shelf
So just let me introduce myself
My name is . . ."

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 10:46:59 +0200
From: "Mark R. Strijbos" <mast@coss.nl>
Subject: One More Time?
Message-ID: <200007210857.KAA08325@mail.coss.nl>

Dear Chalkers,

The Britney phenomenon :

>    To paraphrase Dave in the Play At Home video, it's not so easy to
>    write a hit; if it was, everybody would be doing it.

Truth!

> I know that she didn't write any of her songs, but the hint of quality in her
>    songs does add a little more substance to the Britney phenomenon.

IMHO you are mistaking good workmanship with artistic quality
Of course everything about B.S. has been carefully designed, fine-
tuned, blow-dried and polished to near perfection but that doesn't turn
her into an artist. Substance is exactly what's so sadly missing.

And i'm not even going into the rather dubious and sleazy ways in
which this "product" is being marketed - something i'm sure Ms.
Spears herself will come to regret when she really matures a little (and i
don't mean physically) and gets fed up with her Barbie doll image

yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos @ The Little Lighthouse
http://come.to/xtc

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 07:32:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: The Colonel <captainextraneous@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Alien Music
Message-ID: <20000721143213.4867.qmail@web2306.mail.yahoo.com>

If you like alien music, I heartily suggest you check
out the band Destination: Earth!
http://destinationearth.htmlplanet.com

Not really XTC-related, but a lot of fun live... And
they're all big XTC fans (despite the lowly humanoid
forms of Partridge & Moulding)!

The Colonel

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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2000 09:32:19 -0400
From: "Duncan Watt" <dwatt@fastestmanintheworld.com>
Subject: Did I write this subject... or did Relph?
Message-ID: <200007211334.JAA28659@gilgamesh.nh.ultra.net>

Okay, so I'm drivin' home, it's like 11:45pm or so, I'm flippin' the radio
channels, it's Crap, Crap, Crappy, Bob Seger, More Crap... then *BAM* it's
the Home Demo version of "I'm The Man Who Murdered Love"! No shit!

So dig the ethereality... from no radio play to AAA playing your home demos.
Or how about this... you get the frickin' London Symphony Orchestra to play
on your shit, full arrangements, go broke doing it, but radio would rather
play something you did At Home for Free. What kind of signal are we sending
here, people?

Your Pal Duncan "or is it?" Watt

--
email me: dwatt@fastestmanintheworld.com
surf me: http://www.fastestmanintheworld.com

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