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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 125

                   Friday, 19 May 2000

Topics:

                    We Are All Animals
                  Strawberry Fields mp3
                      1! 2! 3! 4! 5!
                       Ian Reid????
       Interview with Chuck Sabo, Wasp Star drummer
                Wrapped In Grey political?
                   1! 2! 3! 4! 5! (OT)
                       WS in France
                   Is John Relph Real?
                      fixing a whole
            just one caress, you're powerless
                    Re: She's a Moaner
                        The Nails
                   Klaatu/The Residents
                     Re: Ricky Martin
                   Rolling Stone Redux
        Welcome to the garden of earthly delights!
                           4/20
       Git outta here (Warning: horribly long post)

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 13:26:50 +1200
From: "Simon Curtiss" <s_curtiss@clear.net.nz>
Subject: We Are All Animals
Message-ID: <016c01bfc131$f2a19fe0$2d64a8c0@emigre>

John Peacock wrote:

<Lost Band Alert!
<Does anyone remember The Diagram Brothers?

Me! Me! Me! (I think)

I have (had) a tape off a John Peel show with them playing a song called 'We
Are All Animals' - very staccato vocals.  It was on the end of a tape of The
Wall with another great track by Nina Hagen which I never tracked down as it
was in German and I have no idea of the title :-(   The tape packed it in
last year, probably from never being played all the way through, I only ever
listened to these two tracks

Do you have some of their stuff - I'm very interested? Am I on the right
track here or are we talking about different bands?  They all had Diagram as
their surname - right?

Belinda wrote:
<This morning (Thursday 18th May) on the Robert Elms
<show on London Live, the BBC Local Radio station for
<London on 94.9FM (I like to give you the details)

aaargh Elms on the radio - now I know why I emigrated!!  Is he still a
poncing pontificating tosspot or did someone take a piece of 4by2 and smack
some sense into the man?

Congrats on the freebie though.

Winter is coming and I've got cold toes - need to put some shoes on I
suppose - sigh!

Anyone know if the freebie CD single is happening through Cooking Vinyl too?
As I have my WS on order from there - joined the club to get it (and the
Lilac Time & Jackie Leven newies too - yummy)

Simon

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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:18:34 CDT
From: "vee tube" <veetube@hotmail.com>
Subject: Strawberry Fields mp3
Message-ID: <20000519021834.81938.qmail@hotmail.com>

   Ok,I'll admit it,I've only been a 'Chalkhead' for a
  year. (HAPPY ANNIVERSARY to ME!) And I never said "I
  know where every hair on Andy's ass is!"

   Butt! I just traded some CDRs with Tim B. One of the
  bonus tracks he sent me was 'Strawberry Fields' Wha?!
  HH-Well! Shut my mouth! Seems this is a re-creation
  (vs. remake/cover) of a song I hope we all love.

   As I have since been told,it's Dave playing w/Andy
  singing. Don't have anything rare to trade? That's OK.

         Just follow these instructions...

            SIT! ROLL OVER! FETCH!!!!!

          http://www.idrive.com/fabx

            "Live long and phosphor"

                   }---:)

P.S. Click 'strawberry fields' Kick back and relax a spell

                 SCAMPI!OUT!

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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:21:36 -0500
From: "Jan C. Harris" <wow@bluemarble.net>
Subject: 1! 2! 3! 4! 5!
Message-ID: <00c801bfc139$7bbf6260$94a6f5d0@janstrigem>

or, "Andy adds a new twist to my Yoga practice..."

Okay Chalkies, you've infiltrated my conscience with the
synthesis (what was that word?) discussion and five senses
working overtime...

It was going to be a peaceful, winding down Yoga session before
going back to work in a bit - and one of the final relaxing
exercises was a little breathing...  count your breath as you
inhale, said the tape, hold for three that count, exhale for
twice that count.  Ahhhhh. This is feeling good - and I notice
that my number is expanded to 5-15-10 (up from yesterday's
4-12-8).  Ahhh, here we go again - (then it happens) 1! 2! 3! 4!
5!!!!!

And I burst into a totally uncalled for but infinitely
pleasurable giggle.

Thanks, Andy.

JanCarol
wow@bluemarble.net
www.bluemarble.net/~wow

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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 23:00:09 -0400
From: "C. Bisson" <cbisson@mediaone.net>
Subject: Ian Reid????
Message-ID: <3924AE38.F24CE044@mediaone.net>

In the last issue, Mr. Burgess at TVT asked all to vote for ITMWML on
the ubl.com site as the song of the day.  If anyone did, good for you.
I looked at the comments posted about this song; to my very surprise the
following was entered at the end.

>  Hearing this album makes me regret my crueler days...
>  Go XTC!!! Best of luck chaps! Buy this one!!
>  Ian Reid
>  Thu May 18 19:42:21 200
>

Does anyone know if that is authentic?  I wonder what Partridge and
Moulding would have to say about that.
Cheers

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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 15:10:08 -0400
From: "Todd Bernhardt" <todd.bernhardt@enterworks.com>
Subject: Interview with Chuck Sabo, Wasp Star drummer
Message-ID: <39244010.28A415EF@enterworks.com>
Organization: Enterworks, Inc.

Hi:

After hearing a dub of Wasp Star in March, I was so impressed by (among
other things) the drumming that I threw caution to the wind and
contacted Andy, to see if I could get in touch with Chuck Sabo and,
while I was at it, talk to Andy a bit about Chuck's drumming and the
album itself. My presumption was rewarded and, before I knew it, I had
talked to Andy for almost an hour, to Colin for almost two hours, and to
Chuck for an hour and a half about Wasp Star, drumming, and a host of
other topics.

I worked the Chuck interview into an article that I've submitted to
Modern Drummer magazine. But, due to space limitations (as with my
previous interview with Andy), there was so much good stuff left over
that I've created a longer version of the article exclusively for
Chalkhills, courtesy of our wise and wonderful wizard, John Relph. You
can find it, starting today, May 19th, at:

http://chalkhills.org/articles/TBChuck000519.html

Of course, I also had WAY more material from Andy and Colin than I could
possibly use to support the Chuck article. I'm shopping the interviews
to other publications, but in the meantime, I've worked them into
Chalkhills-friendly forms as well. The Andy interview will premiere on
May 21st (happy birthday to me) and the Colin interview will premiere on
May 23rd, the date that Wasp Star makes its official debut here in the
States. Watch the digest on those days for the URLs of each interview.

FWIW, I'd like to extend a special thanks to the folks at TVT. Though
they've been taking their lumps here lately for various things, they
came through quickly and efficiently for me, helping me schedule the
interviews, supplying information, etc. I'd suggest to anyone wanting to
play armchair publicist that they keep in mind just how difficult a job
promoting a band can be, and that they just might not have all the
information needed to divine motives or actions.

The proof's in the pudding, right? Let's watch the charts and
individually do what we all can to help the album sell, before judging
anyone else's efforts.

I hope you all enjoy the interviews. I know I enjoyed doing them.
-Todd

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 13:40:59 +0100
From: "Davies, Huw (TPE)" <Huw.Davies3@Wales.GSI.Gov.UK>
Subject: Wrapped In Grey political?
Message-ID: <7209B69A281BD4119EE50001FA7EA975AEADE7@WOMAIL2>

David Smith wrote in response to my last post:
> Step back from politics for second Huw - to me Wrapped In Grey was
> about the need for free spirit to triumph over mediocrity, the
> desparate struggle that most people in life have to really let rip,
> for fear of rejection or disapproval by the masses. Still, that's
> interpretation for ya."

I wasn't in any way suggesting that Wrapped in Grey is a political song in
the same way that I wasn't suggesting that Green Man is a song about
studying for exams. It's just a song that reminds me of a certain period of
my life.

This morning, in the mail, I got a postcard from Cooking Vinyl, announcing
the release of Wasp Star. This made me wonder what is being done to promote
the album in the UK. So far, it looks like very little. I can't say I'm with
those who think that Wasp Star is going to be a (relatively) big seller.
It'll probably sell as much as AV1. Of course, I would love to be proved
wrong.

Huw Davies

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Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 21:41:09 -0500
From: "Jan C. Harris" <wow@bluemarble.net>
Subject: 1! 2! 3! 4! 5! (OT)
Message-ID: <00e801bfc19a$d449e480$94a6f5d0@janstrigem>

Harrison Sherwood writes: <<The Taoists tell us, the metaphor is also
the chief cause of delusional thought: that in assigning a name to an
object (thus creating a verbal/written sound/shape that serves as a
kind of metaphor for the object--this lump of matter in my hand has no
useful identity until I *name* it a ham sandwich) we *forbid* that
object from being some *other* thing that it might just as profitably
be....>>

a Zen master would say that the name of the thing is in the past,
and thus not relevant to the present.  To reach for a word to
name that thing, is to reach away from the thing itself.

However, when living in the present moment, moment, moment...

Some moments cross over in the senses - and the experience is
beyond metaphor.  Sometimes the best way to describe that sound
is "watery" or "sparkling" or "blue."  Sometimes the best way to
describe that view is "soft" or "brash" or "crying."  Sometimes
these words get closer to the thing itself than the agreed upon
name.

JanCarol
wow@bluemarble.net
www.bluemarble.net/~wow

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:21:38 +0000 (GMT)
From: <gmiller@altern.org>
Subject: WS in France
Message-ID: <200005190912.CAA25442@sgiblab.sgi.com>

Hello there !
Does anyone know if WS ltd edition (with ITMWML single)
will be released in France ?
Yesterday during Bernard Lenoir's show (famous french DJ, our own
"John Peel" and a XTC supporter for year), Playground and ITMWML were
aired.
Apparently it was a fan who sent Bernard the advance cd !
The record label didn't even send the new album to "France Inter", our
public radio station !
see you

GM

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:54:54 +0100 (BST)
From: Rory Wilsher <rory_wilsher@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Is John Relph Real?
Message-ID: <20000519085454.21950.qmail@web1501.mail.yahoo.com>

Damian Wise wrote: "One thing not seen on this
list,except, perhaps, by one."

You know I hate to ask
But are " friends" electric?
Only mine's broke down
And now I've no-one to love

Rory " Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean
they're NOT out to get you"  Wilsher

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:11:15 -0500
From: RNV <rnv@mac.com>
Subject: fixing a whole
Message-ID: <B54A2EAC.EC%rnv@mac.com>

> -ira "maybe I can wallpaper the living room in my new house with XTC album
> covers...naaah, it won't match the carpeting." lieman

Get new carpets.

--RNV

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 13:06:42 +0100
From: Adrian Ransome <Adrian.Ransome@tsi-ltd.co.uk>
Subject: just one caress, you're powerless
Message-ID: <497FEA72C392D3118AE700508B7311770D2F35@NT4SERVER03>

Has anybody in the UK heard any Wasp Star/XTC on the radio yet?

Aardman's Nick Park was responsible for the dancing chicken sequence in
Peter Gabriel's Sledgehammer video.

Adrian "..to dive and to swim in.." Ransome

p.s. Dom & Tom - you're like two bickering old grannies. Leave it ahht or
get it sorted, awlrite?

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 08:54:45 -0700
From: Peter Mullin <pmullin@biocomp.unl.edu>
Subject: Re: She's a Moaner
Message-ID: <392563C4.7032AF74@biocomp.unl.edu>

Dom moans:

> Great, now I've got Enya for "River Of Orchids", Sting for "You & The
> Clouds"....what's next?

How about Clint Holmes for "Playground"?--

Peter "My name is Michael...I've got a nickel" Mullin

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 07:35:03 -0700 (PDT)
From: Veronica Kyle Robertson <veronicakr@yahoo.com>
Subject: The Nails
Message-ID: <20000519143503.23469.qmail@web119.yahoomail.com>

OMBEAN1@aol.com wrote:
"Yo,Yo,Yo,
  It was written:
  Speaking of great 80s bands that disappeared...
Does anybody remeber The Nails? They had a song called
'88 Lines About 44 Women' that was a minor college radio hit
  That song was the twin brother of Trio's ' Da Da Da'."

  IMO , "88 Lines" is a rip-off of Jim Carroll's song
"People Who Died". "88 Lines was released in 1981.
"People Who Died" was released in 1980. "Da Da Da" was
not recorded until 1982. Also IMO, the Nails are only
memorable because their one big hit was used in a car
commercial in the last couple of years, ditto for
Trio, even though I like Trio- Hearts are Trump = ).
Jim Carroll lives on to occassionally produce pretty
good albums.

Veronica

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 06:44:56 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <cauldron@together.net>
Subject: Klaatu/The Residents
Message-ID: <l03130301b54ad74aac2d@[208.13.202.33]>

Ryan Anthony <hamsterranch@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>I'm more than 40 digests behind (they're clogging up
>my in-box!), so please accept my apologies in advance
>if this has been mentioned or even talked to death
>already hereabouts, but, since many XTC fans are bound
>to be fond of Klaatu and Tom Lehrer, I want to let you
>know about a pair of tasty re-releases.
>
>Remember Klaatu? No, not the robot (Bender's
>great-great-great-grandpappy?) in *The Day the Earth
>Stood Still*; I mean Klaatu as in the mid-'70s pop
>combo comprised of anonymous Canadian studio musicians
>which some folks took to be a second coming of the
>Beatles.
>
>My hypothesis is, Klaatu was a super-secret side
>project of the Residents.

  Klaatu's from Canada, The Residents are originally from New Orleans. Nice
try. The rumor about them being The Beatles turned out to be a hoax too,
especially when the perpetrators of the hoax presumably heard the second
album, which I hear wasn't bad but DEFINITELY not The Beatles. Klaatu was a
bunch of musicians from Toronto who'd done a few local sessions seperately
and decided to get together and make some music that interested them, just
like most musicians do. All those rumors ended up possibly hurting their
career rather than helping, though The Carpenters covering "Calling
Occupants Of Interplanetary Craft"(and even having it barely crack the top
40; this was when they were starting to falter commercially in the late
70's)can't have helped either.
  Though I suppose it's possible The Residents could have shuttled back and
forth from San Francisco to Toronto, but come on, that's a little
far-fetched. My theory: original Genesis drummer John Mayhew, who's
completely disappeared, is actually a member of The Residents! Actually, my
old XTC friend Nina theorised that it was Brinsley Schwarz drummer Billy
Rankin, who also supposedly suffered a bizarre gardening accident or choked
on someone else's vomit, but I prefer Mayhew as a theory. More likely he
became an accountant or something.

Christopher R. Coolidge

Homepage at
http://homepages.together.net/~cauldron/homepage.html

"A Great law protects me from the government. The Bill of rights has
10 GREAT laws.  A Good law protects me from you.  Laws against murder,
theft, assault and the like are good laws.  A Poor law attempts to
protect me from myself."  - Unknown

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 10:43:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: pancho artecona <partecona@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Ricky Martin
Message-ID: <20000519174348.13611.qmail@web219.mail.yahoo.com>

Ahem, PLEEEEASE!

Dear F.A.

regarding your statement ' Nobody will be caught
dead promoting any boy-band or teenybopper albums.
Ricki Martin will be an actor.'

Ricky Martin IS an actor! Don't you be messing with
Puerto Rico's pride and joy now. We'll go to your
house and pull a Vieques like protest.

Pancho XPRXTCFAN (Rickylover)

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 14:21:12 -0400
From: fagnello@ascap.com
Subject: Rolling Stone Redux
Message-ID: <852568E4.0064F29C.00@notessmtp1.ascap.com>

Hello Chalksters:

          Just saw the actual issue of Rolling Stone that  reviews Wasp Star
(#842.)
The new Britney Spears gets 3 1/2 stars.  I rest my case (see previous posting
"Re:  Rolling Stone - (Almost) Everything Decays.")  Have to admit, I almost
agreed with their Aimee Mann review (4 stars) until I realized, if they're
giving
it 4, it probably deserves 5.  Numbers shmumbers, but you know Andy will
chuckle if he sees it...

Cheers,

F.A.

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 15:16:09 -0600
From: William Loring <bloring@tirerack.com>
Subject: Welcome to the garden of earthly delights!
Message-ID: <B54B0B39.3211%bloring@tirerack.com>

Hillites,

I've been falling behind in my Chalkhills reading... they've been coming too
fast to keep up. But I have some news that I thought was pretty cool, and
that I thought others might like as well.

My wife and I are preparing for the birth of our second child. Our first
(now 7 years old) was born 16 days late, and was a Cesarean Section. We
wanted to have the second "conventionally," but it's looking like this won't
be the case. The due date was Mother's Day (May 14th), which passed
uneventfully. Since the little tyke is showing no signs of making an unaided
appearance, the doctors have now scheduled a c-section for this Tuesday, May
23rd. This date has a little significance to us in the U.S., doesn't it?
(grin)

So, now I have even more to look forward to this Tuesday! I've got the album
pre-ordered from HMV, but I've been listening to an advance copy for some
time now. So the album won't exactly be new to me, but the date is important
nonetheless.

I'll post details when I can get back to my computer here at work, for those
of you who might care.

...bill

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 09:59:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com>
Subject: 4/20
Message-ID: <20000519165910.808.qmail@web2106.mail.yahoo.com>

re:
One more thing. Would someone take pity on an old
  out-of-it wanker and explain what *4:20* means? Does
  it refer to how long a really fine-quality blunt
  should last (if it is passed on the left-hand side),
  or what?

I have a funny 4/20 story...
OK first off, we know that it's Hitler's birhday, and
Barney Gumbel's birthday (from the Simpsons). It's
also my partner's birthday. And of course the
Columbine, Waco/Oklahoma City connections.
Well, the Photography classes I teach at a local
community college were nearly empty on 4/20 this year.
Out of 17 students in one class, three showed up!  was
mentioning it to the lab aide,and she suggested that
it was because of 4/20. I replied something like 'oh
yeah, I guess this is a public building, maybe people
felt nervous and wanted to stay home' to which she
answered 'what are you talking about?'
Yes, I had no idea at all about the marijuana
connection to 4/20. I lived in Ann Arbor for years, to
me, public pot smoking day is Hash Bash, April 1 ( I
guess they changed it to the first Saturday in April
now).
I still don't know if 4/20 is Marley's birthday or the
police code for a pot bust, but I suspect it doesn't
really matter.
I got to tease my classes the following class session
when everyone started developing their film. Roll
after roll of bad, blurry pictures that they thought
were GREAT when they were taking them...

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Date: Fri, 19 May 2000 20:00:49 +0100
From: "Steve Pitts" <spitts@thesaurus-computers.co.uk>
Subject: Git outta here (Warning: horribly long post)
Message-ID: <802568E4.006A77C1.00@mail.thesaurus-computers.co.uk>

Chalkfolks,

Still two weeks behind, but looking to catch up in one monster session (but
please note that I'm not gonna go back and update comments on earlier posts
that are made redundant or negated by later posts, so there!!) We start
with #6-96 wherein Joe Funk categorically stated:

> It is  Stupid Get, not Git <

Perhaps in the proper use of the term, but I'm afraid to have to have to
tell you that 'git' is now definitely part of the English language (eg. in
Harry Enfield's 'Old Gits'), and has been for some years (it is in my 1979
edition of the Collins English Dictionary) so we now find ourselves in some
sort of language criticism loop

 In #6-97 Tom Kingston opined:

> The Ramones were punk.  The Sex Pistols were punk. The Clash were at
first, but became the first authentic link to New Wave.   XTC were not.
Neither were Graham Parker, Joe Jackson, Elvis Costello, Talking Heads,
Police, and so on.  They took the sound and fashion of punk as the window
dressing for their songwriting.  They were successful.  Thus, new wave.
Thus, XTC. <

Why do we waste so much time and energy defining just what does, or does
not, fit into a particular genre?? The same sort of discussion peppers the
Heavy Metal thread, but it really serves no purpose. I lump all those
artists that got their 'start' in the late 70s together, irrespective of
whether the 'purist' would view them as punk, new wave, pub rock, mod or
whatever other label you fancy. There were all playing the same
clubs/venues during the same time period, and hence I got to see most of
them in ideal(ish) surroundings and I still view them all as one big happy
family :) To me, it doesn't matter - I'm just glad that it happened, and at
a time when I was in my mid-to-late teens and looking for somewhere to
belong.

The twenty odd years since then would be considerably the poorer without
the likes of The Adverts, Blondie, Buzzcocks, John Cooper Clarke, The
Clash, Elvis Costello, The Cure, The Damned, Devo, Ian Dury & The
Blockheads, The Fall, Patrik Fitzgerald, Joe Jackson, The Jam, Joy
Division, Magazine, The Members, The Only Ones, Penetration, The Police,
The Pretenders, The Rezillos, Tom Robinson, Ruts, Sex Pistols, Siouxsie &
The Banshees, The Skids, Squeeze, Stiff Little Fingers, The Stranglers,
Talking Heads, Television, The Undertones, Wire, X-Ray Spex or XTC, to keep
me company, but just how many of them would the anally-retentive describe
as 'punk'?? To me, they all are - perhaps some more so than others, but all
had their roots in that era and that is the association that I make.

> I strongly urge all of you to pick up a copy of Joe Jackson's recent
book, 'A Cure For Gravity' <

A fine read indeed, and most revealing to this long-time consumer of the
man's music. The one moment that I remember most intensely is during one of
his periodic rambles on the state of the music industry where he makes a
comment along the lines of: folk still tell me that 'Is She Really Going
Out With Him' was my finest moment. I'd like to think not.

I can just hear Andy Partridge making an identical comment in relation to
something on White Music, like 'Statue Of Liberty' say but whilst I can
understand that the artist feels that way (they have to, really, in order
to want to keep making music for us all) I have to say that I often find an
artist's first album has a level of energy and excitement that elevates the
music to a plateau that many never reach again.

In #6-99 Tyler Hewitt suggested, as a distraction to the alt-country
thread:

> what do you think is a great lost band or album? One that is really good,
and should have been huge, but somehow didn't make it? <

If I had to pick just one it would probably be 'Colossal Youth' by Young
Marble Giants. I've no idea how well they sold, but they ought to have been
massive, and I somehow doubt that they were because the protagonists went
their separate ways not long aferwards (not that those two facts are
necessarily related, but I don't have any other information to confirm or
deny their popularity). Their sound was so different for its time, and
still sounds unusual to my ears even now.

Significant honourable mentions would have to go to Roy Harper - who
continues to put out material of high quality, and continues to be ignored
by all but a hardcore of fans - and to Girls At Our Best - almost the
archetypal 'one album and disband' story

In #6-100 Ben Woll offered that:

> the singing penis on War Dance is unforgiveable <

Why so?? I am not a muso, so maybe that makes a difference, but to me that
virtual clarinet is simply a part of the way that 'War Dance' sounds, and
is _supposed_ to sound, since XTC are the artists and I'm merely a man. Oh,
and I've never managed to get any such noises out of my dick <shrug>

and Cheryl asked us:

> what albums do you listen to in their entirety? <

Pretty much all of them. I own a few records that are 'bad' enough that I
don't play them at all, but mostly I'll listen all the way through unless
circumstances dictate otherwise. Perhaps I'm a masochist??

In #6-102 the Sushiman exclaimed:

> Other than Lora Logic  and James Chance (who had played with Ornette
guitarist Bernie Nix), you didn't even see any saxophones <

Not really an implement that you can simply pick up and play though, is
it?? A fair percentage of the early punks had no previous musical training,
so went for guitars as a fairly easy option (viz Sid Vicious). However,
X-Ray Spex had a particular sound that still stands out from the punk herd
because of that young lady's amazing work on the sax. Magic stuff

and in a neat bit of synchronicity, Rory Wilsher wondered:

> anyone remember the "punk" "new wave" "another silly label" band from the
late seventies actually called "Generation X"?  I can recall only two song
titles: "the day the world turned dayglo" and "germ-free adolescents" <

You're mixing up two different bands. There was a Generation X, fronted by
Billy Idol of 'White Wedding' fame, but the tracks you list are by X-Ray
Spex. The latter remain one of my favourite punk bands, and the album 'Germ
Free Adolescents' one of those that I always pick out for a listen when
trawling through that part of the alphabet (between Wire and XTC :). GenX,
however, never really were a favourite and I don't think that I actually
own anything of theirs.

and on the subject of 'lost' bands he suggested:

> The Vapors (yes, that's how they spelt it), and 999 <

My best mate keeps a copy of the 7" vinyl version of 'News At Ten' (by the
former, for the uninitiated) next to his record deck, because he loves that
track so much that he listens to it most every day. For his recent fortieth
birthday I managed to track down a copy of the Anthology collection, thus
saving that poor piece of plastic any more abuse :)

and Tom Kingston insisted:

> Not everyone is clear on the difference between punk and new wave, and it
was a signifigant difference <

>From my earlier comments you can probably guess my response to this, but to
borrow from the vernacular - bollocks was it. New wave as a genre was a
media/industry creation that was the first step to making punk acceptable
to the mass audience. In the words of Patrik Fitzgerald:

Mohair jumpers sold next to cardigans
It always comes around
They make it safe

(or something like that. I don't have the vinyl to hand (because I'm in a
hotel in Norwich as I type this) and it isn't on the compilation CD that I
happen to be listening to whilst typing this, and which made me think of
the quote in the first place)

In #6-107 Wayne mentioned:

> Prefab Sprout-2 Wheels Good <

This is the third or fourth time I've seen this album mentioned, but I've
never seen it. Is it a compilation, or the Stateside name for an album that
has a different title here in the UK??

In #6-108 Tyler Hewitt responded to Joe Hartley thusly:

> NO! Tender Comrade is a beautiful song.  And one of the best tracks on
Worker's Playtime <

Well, I've got to side with Joe here. Whilst the song may indeed be a fine
one (and I'm ambivalent), the delivery is simply awful. I don't think that
the Bragg man was cut out for a cappella

In #6-110 Jim Smart queried:

> Anybody heard of an early eighties band called the Lambrettas? <

They were an English 'mod revival' (oooh, a genre distinction) band of the
same ilk as Secret Affair (who could count as a 'lost' band in my book),
The Merton Parkas et al who arose on the back of the chart success that The
Jam had at that time. Can't say that I remember any of their stuff though

In #6-114 Wes Wilson proffered:

> The first two albums by Secret Affair, on 1 CD, are CLASSICS of the mod
stylists <

Now where'd you find that?? The most I've been able to find on CD by Secret
Affair is a 'Best Of' compilation (Sound Of Confusion??) which, rather like
the equivalent Waitresses set, is lacking a few of the tracks that I like
the most. I don't suppose that you would be so kind as to email me the
catalogue number??

In #6-118 the hobbled Folly Manton mentioned:

> The first one is Revellios (sp?). I believe they're from Scotland, and
they had a song called, "Where's the Boy For Me?".  Then they changed their
name to the Rezellios (sp), or was it the other way around <

It was the other way around - the Rezillos folded after one cracking album
and a couple of minor hits (of which 'Top Of The Tops' was their biggest),
and two of the main protagonists then reappeared as the Revillos, only to
disappear without trace (although I believe they did release a couple of
albums under that name)

> I'm just curious if there are any of their albums on CD? <

Can't speak for The Modettes, but 'Can't Stand The Rezillos' is available
on CD, comprising that one album (of the same name) and a bunch of bonus
tracks including singles and several live tracks. It is a Sire/WB release,
catalogue number 7599-26942-2

Finally (no, really, #6-124 was my 28th digest in 36 hours) in #6-123
Chris2 included:

> 'The Final Cut' - Pink Floyd <

in his list of records that he listens to all the way through. Wow. I knew
that somewhere out there would be someone who actually liked this record,
but that much. Amazing

Cheers, Steve (looking forward to Wasp Star as much as anyone, but resigned
to having to wait until July 5th before I actually get the pleasure)

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