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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 6, Number 118

                   Tuesday, 16 May 2000


                 Re: The Liszt - SPOILER
                  Re: TVT on a Macintosh
                I want my MTV2 and Squeeze
              Wasp Star at the spanish shops
                     media conspiracy
                         The List
                   A man and his horse?
                        AV1 tally
                        RE: Pigbag
                 Soundbreak (Beer Break!)
                 Soundbreak-ing interview
                    Finding Nick Drake
          A bizarre occurence & some quick bits
                     CS Angels RULE!
  Revellios (sp) and The Modettes (sorry no XTC content)
                        I Predict.
                    Re: Shifting Units
     Mother, Father, Plasmatics, Femmes, Milkmen etc.


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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 09:42:02 -0700
From: Kerry Chicoine <>
Subject: Re: The Liszt - SPOILER
Message-ID: <>
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This weekend I attended the taping of VH1's 'The List' featuring
our own Andy P.  Of course, the so-called 'show' is a complete
waste of airtime and means absolutely nothing, but our Andy made a
great panelist! Damn funny and cute, too.

One of the other panelists was this air-head 20-something
girlwoman (apparently a 'star' from That 70's Show).  She bitched
unceasingly when Andy nominated

***** SPOILER ****** ***** SPOILER ****** ***** SPOILER ******

Frank Sinatra's 'My Way' as his third choice for most overplayed
song (audience members were heard 'booing' at this). Airhead Chick
said 'Overplayed? Frank Sinatra is a LEGEND!!!!!" to which Andy
replied, "No, dear, he's a LEG-END, a leg end, like a cut of
meat!" Too funny. Sadly but oddly appropriate, two of Andy's three
choices were 'removed' by other panelists, but his number one
choice came in third overall.

Andy was full of mischief, dancing about the stage and cutting up
like a schoolboy. I wanted desperately to meet him, but, alas, it
was Not To Be. I did, however, flash my copy of AV1 before the
camera every chance I had and he waved in my general direction.

I sacrificed Mothers Day to be with Andy.

kErrY KoMPoSt


Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 12:06:29 -0500
From: "Will Kreth" <>
Subject: Friz-tone
Message-ID: <>

Jan Carol wrote:
>>I noticed by looking at their playlist:
>> that there is a label called
>>"Nonesuch" represented on this playlist by an artist named Bill
>>Frisell,  who seems to have 3-4 numbers on the list.  Anyone know
>>anything about this?

Nothing, other than the fact that he's one of the most innovative
and diverse guitarists/composers of the last 20 years:,4391,1009676,00.html

Worth checking out.



Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:27:24 -0500
From: Mark Newberg <>
Subject: Re: TVT on a Macintosh
Message-ID: <>
Organization: @Home Network

I agree with John Relph. I own a PowerMac G3 and I feel sorry for you
Windows based platform users. In college I used a PC. When it came
time to get my own computer I asked my engineer friends for
suggestions and they suggested I get a Mac. It is more user-friendly
and doesn't often. TVT has never crashed my system. In
fact, I seldom crash.

I'm not saying I don't have trouble with my Mac, but I can only
imagine the troubles I would have with a PC.

I do admit that I don't have a plethora of software to choose from but
if it's not made for Macintosh I probably don't need it anyway. My G3
did cost more than a Dell or a Compaq, but the more I hear of peoples
trials and tribulations with their PC I think it has been worth it.

I would rather give my money to Steve Jobs than to Bill Gates,
anyway. I like the underdog!!

XTC content: They are a really, really good band.

Carpe diem,

Mark N.

Spam, spam, spam, spam


Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 12:11:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Molly Fanton <>
Subject: I want my MTV2 and Squeeze
Message-ID: <>

Whaaaa, I wish I had MTV2.  But the only way to get it
is to have a satellite dish, and my parents' can't get
one.  I would LOVE to see the interview.
Mark S. you have good tastes in albums.  Cossi Fan
Tutti Fruitt has to be one of my fave Squeeze albums.
My fave song is, I Learned How to Pray".


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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:59:24 +0200
From: "Hall of Fame Records" <>
Subject: Wasp Star at the spanish shops
Message-ID: <005101bfbea0$640112e0$e87e243e@bayg0000mec_pntic>

Hi, Wasp Star it's already at the spanish shops (fnac). I have my copy. It's
fantastic, above all the moulding's song - boarded up. Grettings from the
mediterranean sun.
Luis Gonzalez.


Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 12:08:15 -0700
From: "Jeannie" <>
Subject: media conspiracy
Message-ID: <>

Do you ever get the feeling that there is a conspiracy of evil anti-xTc
forces out there in media land?

Said Wes Hanks:

>To the folks at,
>Thank you for your approximately 2 hour notice that you would be having Andy
>and Colin in studio for a streaming video live interview along with a
>promised chat session this last Friday.

What, where, when, Why!? I am so sick of missing out on these things. I had
tickets for Andy's appearance on that hideous Vh1's "the List" which taped
yesterday at 1230---Mother's Day, in the middle of Mother's Day Brunch. If
having tickets and not being able to attend wasn't torture enough, this
morning I was lead through the labyrinth of eternal, dead-end phone calls
trying unsucessfully to find out when it will be airing. I'll probably miss
this too :(   I don't think Vh1 wants anyone with a brain watching their

I did catch an "interview" (if you can call it that) on local L.A. radio
last Thursday, but the "L.A. Times" had listed the show for 4pm, when it was
actually 2pm. When I called the station to point out the discrepancy and
explain to them they will be pissing off a lot of fans if they don't correct
this, some secretary gave the the old line about how the D.J. announces it
all the time. Well, I listened all day & the interview was only mentioned
about 30 mintutes before-hand. To make matters worse, sandwitched between a
tedious eternity of a GAZILLION commercials, the person who did most of the
talking was the fawning D.J. who asked very uninteresting questions and
blathered on about what a huge fan she was. Hey, sis, we only have about 15
minutes to hear Andy & Colin--shut up about yourself!  There were so many
commercials, that when they returned from one break you could hear Andy &
Colin making very loud & irreverent snoring sounds (yeah!).

If anyone has any connections as to finding out when the "List" episode will
be airing, please let it be known & end our frustration!



Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 12:58:26 +0000
From: David Schneider <>
Subject: The List
Message-ID: <>

> Oh for fuck sakes!
> I was listening to the radio and to my Elation ITMWML came on but at the end
> the dj talked a bit about Mr.P being on The List.  He had too add at the end
> of his shpeel, "oh and you probably missed that since it was on last night".
> What?!  What?!

Hmmm. According to my trusty tv listings, Sunday nights "The List" was the
cast of that crappy new Travolta film. The Partridge show was _taping_ on
Sunday. I know it's not broadcast live, and I'm sure the turnaround on
editing them is not that quick. I think your DJ was just confused.



Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:53:23 -0400
From: "Stephanie Takeshita" <>
Subject: A man and his horse?
Message-ID: <>

As Pancho Artecona recently informed us:

>>And finally, I saw a program on sexual mores through
the ages the other day and they showed a 'chalkhill'
similar to the Uffington Horse but with a guy with an
erect phallus. I was wondering if anyone know where
this was located as I missed it.>>

Now we know why the Uffington Horse is running [away] at a full

Stephanie T.

Stephanie Takeshita
x. 3625


Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 14:23:03 -0700
From: "Victor Rocha" <>
Subject: AV1 tally
Message-ID: <00fb01bfbeb3$c286c9a0$>

according to Andy Partridge AV1 sold 250,000 copies worldwide.

read story >>


Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 23:03:13 +0100
From: "David Pitt" <>
Subject: RE: Pigbag
Message-ID: <000001bfbeb9$5fd6c0c0$>

Tom Kingston asked:
> I have another lost band - anyone remember Pigbag?  I think
> they were from
> Boston, but I could be confused because I was playing in
> Boston when my
> bandmate got the album.

Pigbag were from Bristol (spookily, only 40 miles down the M4 from Swindon)
and, bar Tears for Fears, were probably the biggest name to arise from this
quiet corner of the old country until Portishead and Massive Attack made
their dubious contributions to the future of rock and roll.



Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:41:08 -0700
From: "Steve Young" <>
Subject: Soundbreak (Beer Break!)
Message-ID: <>

The facts of the broadcast will probably have been repeated many times by
now, but here it goes... I happened upon Chalkhills minutes before the 'cast
was to start.  The boys were a bit early.  It was strange watching Andy and
Colin settle down with their beers with self-proclaimed naked-baby-photo
tunes "Senses" and "Making Plans" playing behind them... "I've got
1-2-3-4-5.." <swig> "... and he loves to be spoken to.." <swig>

During the "religous discussion" (following or preceeding "Dear God") there
were several moments of uncomfortable silence after Andy's proclaimed rather
strongly:  "Why would there?  Why would there be [a god]?"  <chirp chirp>
... and then Marnie (DJ) stuttered forth some theory about energy in rocks
and so forth, which Andy politely allowed.  "Of course," he said.

The DJ was not particularly super, but we might have had an MTV beach party:
<Andy and Colin sitting uncomfortable and sweaty on beach chairs in their
knickers and caps.  MTV DUDE:  "So like... you guys have been around a while
n' stuff, been around the Britpop scene, you know, had some hits in the
eighties, now you're kinda makin' a comeback, anyway, whaddya think of
Oasis?"  The DJ wasn't the seasoned XTC fanatic we would have hoped for, and
the informed fans were not greatly involved in the Q&A process, but really,
what were we expecting?  (not much, I.)

Colin sounded much older than he looked, in his hoarse Swindonian accent,
like some old buttered colonel.  "Ahh.. yes, indeed... in my twenties, I had
the naivete.. in my thirties I simply worried quite a bit... in my forties,
well I'd like to think I act my age [my memory isn't phonographic, so this
is all paraphrase]."

Andy was particularly lewd, flirtacious, and politically incorrect
throughout.  I want to see an animated feature with Mr. Partridge playing
all the voice parts.  And I want him to have complete creative control.
We'd probably see psychadelic animated pornography, with sprouting phalluses
and multicolored flowers and marching bands and mile-thick metaphors.  It
would be completely out of control and it would be wonderful.

I didn't bother trying to enter the chat room.  It involved some tedious
registration process which would have added my name and address to another
mailing list.  Sounds like most of the intelligent (read: Chalkhills-based)
questions were ignored anyway.  So.  Seems we don't hold much in the way of
market share... just killed me to hear Marnie say, "doesn't look like
there's anyone in the chat room..." and then Partsy make some innocent
wisecrack about it but me thinking... HEY, we're here, boarded up, waiting
for a chance to be heard!  Please air our obsure minutiae!

I noticed Mr. Partridge (and to a much lesser extent, Mr. Moulding) bobbing
and tapping his pants happily to the WS tunes.  During one segment I got
close to hearing/seeing "WS Live".  Andy began singing a bit of TMWML!  "If
you never ever kiss it... how you ever.." - and then Marnie cut him off.




Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 15:33:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brown <>
Subject: Soundbreak-ing interview
Message-ID: <>

..Wes, you were right on the money with your thoughts on the Soundbreak cast-

<<Thank you for totally ignoring the people in the chat room who were asking
legitimate and well thought out questions for Colin & Andy.>>

... I don't believe 'Marnie' used a single chat room question, did she?
Even when Andy asked for one off the monitor screen she ignored his
suggestion.. grrrrr...

<<Thank you to the self-absorbed interviewer who constantly steered the
conversation back to * her *. Sorry, sweetcakes, I don't give a rats-ass
about what you think. Tip for your next interview - "let your subject finish
his sentence, 'kay?"  Sweet Charity, is this the jr. college community radio
station, or what?>>

whew, I thought it was just me being an old poop...  here are some other
words you may use to describe the interviewer; dull, shallow, irritating,
unfocused, and just plain boring.  Here is my favorite Marnie moment.. after
a pointless ramble on her 'vast' musical experiences, Marnie capped it with,
"the more.. I.. learn.. about.. music...   The... less... I know... about...
music".  Andy replied with something like, "oh! that's deep and
meaningless."  That's my boy, Andrew!

I still enjoyed hearing/seeing Andy and Colin for over an hour, but I wish
someone with a little more on the ball could have led the interview.

Bitching and complaining,

Debora Brown


Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 18:25:00 -0400
Subject: Finding Nick Drake
Message-ID: <001f01bfbebc$6a5ef3c0$34e17ad1@default>

> But I keep thinking about it and a few hours later I'm at Virgin
> Records and they don't have it.

The Virgin store near me keeps Nick Drake in the "Folk" section.  The box
set is merely a buy-four-CDs-at-once-and-save kind of deal containing his
three proper albums and the outtakes compilation "Time of No Reply".  But
all the CDs in the box set are available separately.

If you're a Belle & Sebastian fan you really owe it to yourself to check out
Nick Drake.  They were clearly strongly influenced by him.

-- Francis

"I saw Nick Drake at the corner of Time and Motion."
  -- Robyn Hitchcock


Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:42:41 -0700
From: Ed Kedzierski <>
Subject: A bizarre occurence & some quick bits
Message-ID: <>

Something very out of the ordinary happened to me this weekend: I actually
went to see a band that I liked, that I've liked for a long time, and
enjoyed the gig!
Sad, isn't it, when that's such a rarity?
Anyway, I went to see the The, an old favourite from when I was relatively
cool (not the grumbling old fart I am now), and they were great: Matt
Johnson was in fine form, his current band a relatively straightforward
guitar-bass-drums combo (no Marr this time, though), did quite a bit off of
their (his?) new album (not their best, but not bad at all) and a fairly
decent selection of older stuff (no keyboards for the most part, but the
drummer had a harmonium that was used on some of the older songs). The lack
of people who at one time I would have considered "usual suspects" to run
into at a gig like this, and the presence of too many, well, "fratty"
jockoid regular guy types was a little depressing (I'm not judging people
who don't dress by some bullshit standard of "cool", or who discovered
anything later than me or anything like that - it's just an attitude thing,
that whole "getting into a fight is almost as good a way of ending an
evening as getting laid" kind of vibe that some of these guys give off), but
on the whole I was able to tune out the audience and just enjoy the band.
It's been a hell of a long time.	I don't know if I'd call them a
"lost" band, as he's still making music, but I haven't exactly heard
anything of theirs on my local fake alternatriod station (which goes by the
name "X FM" - how's that for the cheesiest, stupidest possible name for such
a station?).

To the person who mentioned Iron Chef recently:
Yes! This show rocks! I've been watching it for months now, and quite a few
catch phrases have made their way into my speech patterns, as well as those
of my friends. I think. ("Fukui-san?" "Yes, Ohta, go!"). Delicious! The one
they showed a couple of weeks ago where I am was during "girl's festival"
and the entire panel was giggling actresses! I love this show. Two extra
types of Iron Chef we thought of (in addition to Japanese, Chinese, French
and Italian): "Iron Chef Broke" ("Ah, yes, salt, very interesting") and
"Iron Chef Drunk".

Split Enz: one of the first supposed "new wave" bands that I got into (along
with you-know-who) way back when. They were very popular here in Canada;
just about everyone I know has, or used to have (in the case of those fools
who ditched their vinyl) a copy of True Colours; seems like it was
everyone's Christmas present that year (I have two copies, and I don't know
how). "One Step Ahead" and of course "Six Months in a Leaky Boat" were
pretty big hits as well, as I recall.

Andy does not sound like Sting. If anything "You and the Clouds" has a bit
of an echo of earlier Andy, circa "Statue of Liberty" (just a bit, don't
freak out...). It's not the famous "seal bark" necessarily, but it does seem
to twist and bend in a manner somewhat reminiscent of the early stuff.

I'm sure that there are other things I could natter on about, but suddenly I
am run over by a truck.
Ed K.


Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 16:56:00 -0700
From: "Jeff Smelser" <>
Subject: CS Angels RULE!
Message-ID: <C1EDE43EE6FED311B19200105A9FAE1A031EBE@AT>

Hello Again Chalkfolk,

"- Waiting For A Miracle by the Comsat Angels
debut album from another great Lost Band from the 80's that never
really made it. The first 2 or 3 albums were great but they soon lost
track when disco struck and doom went out of fashion."

Yeah, this was one of the few bands besides XTC I tried to collect
For a while I even had this cool live bootleg tape that was recorded through
the mixing board.
(...I lost it the second time my car and all my tapes were stolen...)
Unfortunately, I never got to SEE them play live.  But you're right, those
first three albums are fantastic, and their sound always struck me as, "...a
band of rock-and-roll ghosts," spooky and etherial and spot on
artistic/progressive.  Then they had to change their name to CS Angels in
the states and it was a downhill slide to the cutout bins from there.

(this is where I would have put the CSANGELS link at the Rough Guides To
Rock but they took it all down because they made a book and they're trying
to sell that instead.)

just my $.02,  JD SMX


Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:42:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Molly Fanton <>
Subject: Revellios (sp) and The Modettes (sorry no XTC content)
Message-ID: <>

I've been having a brainstorm while thinking about the
"lost" bands.  I have this collection called Teenage
Kicks and Starry Eyes (UK Pop Vol. 1 and 2), and the
latter one has two great groups that I haven't heard
about much.
The first one is Revellios (sp?). I believe they're
from Scotland, and they had a song called, "Where's
the Boy For Me?".  Then they changed their name to the
Rezellios (sp), or was it the other way around.
The second group were The Modettes.  They were an
international group, the lead singer was from French,
there was an American and one from England.  Their
claim to fame was the single, White Mice".  Even
though I can't understand what Romona (the lead
singer) is singing, the song still rocks.
I'm just curious if there are any of their albums on


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Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:15:09 -0700
From: "Radiosinmotion" <>
Subject: I Predict.
Message-ID: <001401bfbecb$ccbde9e0$0200a8c0@digitalpc>

The sun will fade out, yeah I predict...  Speaking of Lost bands! :)

I predict Wasp Star will sell over a million copies and be their most
successful album.  If I am wrong, laugh at me in years to come.  Its not
that I feel its better than anything they have done, I just feel it will be
able to hit the charts due to a few factors.

1.  The whole 80's revival thing.
2.  The songs are damn good!


Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 20:10:31 EDT
Subject: Re: Shifting Units
Message-ID: <>

Joel writes:

> I am going out on a limb here....  I predict "Wasp Star" will sell at least
>  750K units!.....  Bold?  You bet!  I really want this to be a success for
>  Andy & Colin..They more than deserve it!!

I have to agree with Joel's assessment. This is probably the Most
Commercial album the band has made since Oranges & Lemons in terms of
sales. I'd include Nonesuch, but it was a little too obscure for the
average listener with tunes like That Wave and Bungalow (Despite previous
protests about the status of Nonesuch--there are parts that are among
their best work. It could have been pruned a bit. There are a couple of b
side quality tracks that made the album).

The question remains whether the band will be able to reach the younger
fans.  The way to do that is MTV (although they play mostly rap videos
seems to me that the hip hop beat used one track might make it work--would
the band spring for a video? If they do really they should contact Ralph
Bakshi to do a computer animated short for it using Andy's illustrations
as a basis).

On the CD player -- The Name of This Band is Talking Heads (Thanks to
radiosinmotion for his help with remastering the sound--great job guy!).
Anybody (Besides Kevin--yours is on the way!) that emailed me back wanting
a copy in trade please reemail me off list. My hard drive crashed and I
had to reconfigure the damn thing), Wasp Star, John Hiatt's Riding With
The King, Elliot Smith's latest (thanks to whomever passed that along as a
recommendation) , McCartney's Ram (inspired to hear it again after the
rumor about the tribute album with XTC doing Uncle Albert ), Other Enz (a
Split Enz rarity CD--well worth purchasing for fans)and Travis.

Whatever happened to Kate Bush? She hasn't released an album in
ages. Anybody know? Did Tori Amos uses the elves to drive her out of the
music biz? In a musical wrestling match I'd pick Kate. She has more depth
as a songwriter.  Tori is growing on me (somewhat like a fungus).

I personally think that Andy & Colin should start a Monkees tribute album
(either that or Black Sabbath--that would be interesting). Both would be
left field choices...I personally would love to see both guys attempt a
"covers" album of eccentric, obscure bands that they like. It would be

Wayne - Often mistaken for a TVT Executive- Klein


Date: Mon, 15 May 2000 17:12:51 -0700
From: Herne <>
Subject: Mother, Father, Plasmatics, Femmes, Milkmen etc.
Message-ID: <>

Regarding the parental reactions to XTC thread...despite the fact that I
regularly played XTC after school back when I was a teenager, I don't
recall my parents ever commenting on XTC.  The only reactions from my
parents to anything I listened to would usually be something of the
"Turn that down" variety.   The few exceptions I remember were most

Mom On the PLASMATICS "New Hope For the Wretched" LP.  "This is just
sick.  What is this shit?"   I think my mom actually said the word shit,
which at the time was unthinkable in our house.  Perhaps the fact that
someone who shared her name (Wendy) would go around with duct tape on
her nipples didn't agree with her.  I think the Plasmatics were the
cause of my only parental musical disagreement.  They barred me from
going to see The Plasmatics at wherever they were playing in RI at the
time.  Turned out to be a blessing because my friends were denied access
for being too young(the age was 19 back then). R.I.P. Wendy O.

Mom on Elvis Costello's "Shot With His Own Gun"...."I am so sick of that
song.  When will you play something else? ...then she sang..."Shot with
his own gunnnnnnn....BORING!!!"

Dad on "Filet of Soul" from the Dead Milkman's debut "Big Lizard in My
Backyard"..."This is fun."  There exists in the bowels of my video
collection, a home video of my father doing a frightening dance and
snapping his fingers along to the beat.

But the most firghtening of all...

Dad on "Add it Up" on the Violent Femmes first album..."This is really
good."  Again the dancing and finger snapping.  To see my father , who
looks like a cross between Dick Van Patten and Today Show Weatherman
Willard Scot sing "Why can't I get just one fuck?"  is something that I
simply can never describe.  Further, he made a tape of it and played it
in his office!!!!  I know because I witnessed it.  He probably got away
with it becuase he co-owned the place.

Oddly I would use parental disfavour as an excuse to return a record I
didn't like.  Disappointed that my Dead Kennedy's FRESH FRUIT FOR
ROTTING VEGATABLES didn't include the original superior version of
"Holiday in Cambodia"  or "Police Truck"(and for some other reason I
can't remember, considering I do have a vinyl copy from that time), I
brought it back to the store and told them I was returning it because my
parents didn't approve.  Who could argue with that?   It was an import I
think.  I exchanged it for Elvis Costello's TAKING LIBERTIES and another
disc you may have heard of...BLACK SEA(RSO version).  To this day, it
still boggles my mind that XTC once shared a label(sort of) with the
soundtrack to GREASE.  Incidentally, TIMES SQUARE will be coming to
video courtesy of Anchor Bay sometime within the next year.  When, who

My mother and father like music(mostly jazz).  Maybe I could spring
something like Skylarking on them and see what happens.  I mean there's
only so many times they can sit through Keith Jarrett...or is there?



In my various CD players and such:

Supernatural Fairy Tales Box Set Sampler(Yes, Traffic, Focus, etc.)
eels---Daiseis of the Galaxy
Charlatans UK---Some Friendly
They Might Be Giants---Long Tall Weekend, which I managed to get an
actual cd promo of as it is technically a mp3 only album
XTC---Apple Venus Vol. 1
XTC---English Settlement
Knickerbockers---Best of the Knickerbockers
Nuggets Box Set Disc #1
Kinks---Village Green Preservation Society
Polaris---Songs From Pete and Pete
Captain Beefheart---Safe As Milk


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