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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 78

                Wednesday, 3 February 1999

Today's Topics:

                  Re: Beset by the Best
                tb in ca, av1 release date
                         I'm back
                     Andy on the tele
                 Brassed off about Barry
                      SSKHKH in NYC
                     What the.....???
                   XTC Survey and Kinks
                catch the Red Eye special
              Papersnow is not Andy's fault
                    Buzzing about XTC
                        it woz me!
                      Clock watching
               Sean Cassidy... remember me?
                         Nebraska
                      Re Huggy Bear
                Re: Forward into the Past
                   Cd's-too expensive?
                   The final solution?
        Publicity Possibility: PRI's "World Cafe"
                       I liked that
                     Bits And Pieces
              Apple Venus Artwork Revealed!

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Message-ID: <36B5D6F7.2A45@realtime.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Feb 1999 16:31:51 +0000
From: chris vreeland <vreecave@realtime.com>
Organization: Vreeland Graphics
Subject: Re: Beset by the Best

ChalkBeings,
	A longtime sideline-lurker picks today to unleash.

	Actually, I work for a living, and if I stopped to answer Chalkhills
as often as I'd like, I'd go broke pretty quick. I knew there were devoted
fans out there, but was amazed at the amount (and quality) of dialogue Y'all
have pumped out over the last six months. So, in no particular order....

1. Top ten albums I obtained in 1998. (only one was actually released
in'98 - I'm an old fogey who has concentrated on replacing an aging and
scratchy vinyl collection for the last year.)

	1.Los Lobos Kiko.(1992) Saw these guys a few years back. It was like
watching a train leave the station. They slowly built steam until they
reached cruising speed, and just cooked for the last half of the set.  See
them Live. Buy this album. IMHO, Mitchell Froom reached his pinnacle with
this album (and maybe Richard Thompson's Mirror Blue). Would he not be the
perfect producer for XTC? (to raise a thread from the dead) I haven't seen
his name on this list, though I know there are a few Crowded House fans who
subscribe. Anybody agree?

	2. Bruce Cockburn- The Charity of Night. (1996) It received airplay
in Austin approx. twice, but it stuck in my head for two years. Phenomenal
lyrics, pretty damn good musicianship and production. The songs were written
all over the world, and the album is a sort of travelogue. Rob Wasserman's
fretless bass playing steals the show.

	3. The Beatles. Rubber Soul.(1965) How did I survive without it for
10 years?

	4. Miles Davis. Kind of Blue.(no date given on the CD
re-release. '56?  `57?) I'm thinking about naming my unborn (currently
gestating) son Miles. Jazz would not be jazz without this man.

	5. XTC The Big Express.(1984) No wonder I wore my vinyl copy clean
through back then. Although it's not my favorite XTC disk, it's still an XTC
disk, which means, of course, it's damn good. The beginning of Wake Up is
probably the best beginning to an XTC album, and if not for the linn drum on
This World Over, it would be one of my top five favorite songs. I do wish
the CD re-releases had the bonus tracks at the end, though, instead of
between sides. It screws up my expectations after so many years with the
vinyl, and I think labels ought not to mess with track order after the fact,
in any scenario, as song ordering can be an integral part of a work of art,
as much as the songs themselves. What if the CD release of The Lamb Lies
Down on Broadway had been reordered, with bonus tracks mid-CD? it would
render the album unintelligible.  (Don't get me started on the three
versions of Drums and Wires that I own!)

	6. Midnight Oil. Redneck Wonderland. (1998) A friend gave me a promo
copy of this in October, and it must have been released into the vacuum of
outer space. I don't know if anyone else in the world has a clue that this
album even exists. . American radio has certainly turned their back on a
great band. Warne Livesey is also the God producer. About 30 seconds under
the headphones with The The's Mind Bomb will bear this statement
out. although he probably would not be right for XTC. Anyone care to
contradict?

	7. Little Feat. Waiting for Columbus. Bonnie Raitt said once she
missed Lowell George like she missed being seven years old. Drugs cut down
so many great songwriters that I've totally lost count, but after listening
to this fine live performance for the first time in 15 years, I'm inclined
to think that his death was perhaps the most tragic of them all. Lowell
George and Duane Allman are the only two people to ever contradict the
stereotype of that much-hated sub-genre "Southern Rock."  On top of his
genius, Little Feat was a truly great BAND who worked together live better
than most. The energy on this album is just fantastic.

	8. Electromagnets. (1975 finally released on CD in 1998) I saw these
guys a few times in the late seventies, and in the early eighties, became a
pretty good friend of Kyle Brock, probably the best bass player left in
Austin since Keith Furgeson died. It's nice to hear your friends on CD, and
he and the other obscure `Magnets were a pretty good foil to Eric Johnson's
ego. Not Weather Report or Brand X, but really pretty close. (except for the
one song with vocals; sung by Christopher Cross.  Truly onerous)

	9. David Bowie. Aladdin Sane. (1973) All in all not even one of
Bowie's better albums, but it still contains some gems, namely the title
track, with the Mussorgsky-inspired lunatic piano solo, and Lady Grinning
Soul, a haunting piece of romantic tragedy. Mick Ronson also tears it up.

	10. The Heads. No Talking Just Head.(1996) Namely notable for the
Andy Partridge contribution Papersnow, but it also contains some other
interesting songs. Didn't know this one existed till I found it browsing
through the used bin a few months ago.

On to other topics.

Rush Limbaugh? Do we really have to waste precious brain cells on this
sad parody of neo-conservatism? He would be hilarious if he wasn't so
very disturbing. Move on to something worth discussing. You only lend
credence to this idiot by even recognizing his existence.

Vinyl Versus CD.  Here's what vinyl lovers should do to assuage their
fear about having to convert to CD. 1. Buy a 31 band graphic equaliser
then turn down all the bands below 100hz and above 12khz. 2. make a
cassette tape of hiss and scratching and popping noises from a
convenient blank spot on any album over two years old, and play this
tape along with your CD's. You should feel right at home. I cry when I
look at the thousands of dollars worth of unplayable albums I own and
the thousands I've had to spend replacing them with CD's.

Digit- challenged guitar players. Go ahead, slag Jimmy Page. I assume
that it's just sour grapes. How many of you could even play Ten Years
Gone, much less write it? But yeah, his hands did just fall off the neck
during a few sessions. You have to wonder what the producer was
thinking. Oh, yeah. He also produced Led Zeppelin. Slag John Bonham at
your peril, however. There's only one other Brit I can think of who
could whack `em like Bonzo- Terry Chambers.

AND FINALLY, less than a month until AV1 hits the stores. I can't decide
if I should order and advance copy, or if I just want to go down to
Waterloo on the day it comes out and hope to get one. The anticipation
is building steadily, and I've found myself thinking back on past XTC
releases and my reaction to them. I believe XTC is unique in my mind in
that I can still remember where I was the moment I first heard any of
their albums from D&W on.. I can remember the time of day, the weather,
everything. These were defining moments of my life and I suspect the new
one will be no different. I haven't sought out any demos or promo
copies, because frankly, after 6 years, I'm finally enjoying this last
bit of anticipation. Some of us want to stand over Van Goughs shoulder
while he paints, but this time I want to just walk into the museum on
opening day and see the finished piece hanging there.

They danced and laughed, spelling all I fell into was love.

XTC song of the day- New Broom.   Who is Mr.. Ditko, anyway?
non- XTC song of the day-Lucinda Williams- Car wheels.........

Whew, catharsis at last. Humblest apologies from Austin, TX.

Chris Vreeland

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Message-ID: <19990201225923.20599.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 14:59:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Danks <bdanks@rocketmail.com>
Subject: tb in ca, av1 release date

Hi all -
I posted a couple of issues ago concerning the
availability of Transistor Blast in SoCal. Thanks to
Elizabeth (ElizaS33@aol.com) and Alex
(arctic_moose@yahoo.com) for responding.

Interestingly, I also received a response from Todd
McIntosh of TVT Records. I had an good conversation
with him concerning the availability of TB in SoCal,
XTC in general, and most importantly, the release
date for AV1. According to Todd, February 23rd is
still the date.

I thought it was cool he took the time to reply
(Thanks Todd), and he's a fan of the band - the best
hands for the guys to be in -IMHO!

Brian D.

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 18:24:35 -0500 (EST)
From: Ted Harms <tmharms@library.uwaterloo.ca>
Subject: I'm back
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.990201182204.11349A-100000@library.uwaterloo.ca>

I'm back after a year off the list.  Looking forward to AV blahblahblah...

In the three issues over the weekend but didn't see anything posted by
Joshua Hall-Bachner, which is quite a drop from his pace last year - does
anybody know if he's still kicking around?

Ted Harms                                      Library, Univ. of Waterloo
tmharms@library.uwaterloo.ca                           519.888.4567 x3761
"But all things excellent are as difficult as they are rare."  B. Spinoza

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Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 16:50:53 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <199902020050.QAA25680@mail2.deltanet.com>
From: DCB-MBB <mb2@deltanet.com>
Subject: Andy on the tele

I received this message today (Feb. 1, 1999)--

'Andy Partridge from XTC will be featured on tomorrow night's premiere of
Where Are They Now on the British Invasion. The show will air at 10:00 PM
(ET/PT) and Midnight.'...Set your VCR's, people...

Debora Brown

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Message-ID: <19990202012723.15118.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:27:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Cheryl <cxtc@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Brassed off about Barry

Hello to all,

The other night I was watching the film, "Brassed
Off".  During one of the scenes the girl confesses to
another character that she had actually known what
his name was but trying to look cool and sauve she
acted as if she didn't know his name and called him
by another.  Yes, I know this is a round about way to
get to the point but the point IS that the name she
chose to use was Barry Andrews.

My silly question is, could this possibly have been
an XTC reference or is this one of those common names
like Graham?

MR. Raven scolded:
>On that subject, before anyone gets any ideas, let
me >point out that I am MALE.  I forgot to mention on
my >last posting (about why Americans don't
>like President Kill) that this is my mother's old
>computer, so I retain her e-mail address.  People
>like Roger McDonald who wrote back to her (me)
>brandishing unwelcome innuendo should hang their
>heads in shame.
>I realise now that all men really are scum.
Wow!  It's too bad more men aren't dished out what
they give.  I'm sure you have given many men on this
list something to think about.  You never know who
really is lurking behind an e-mail address.

I don't think I would go so far as to say all men are
scum because I have exchanged many e-mails with lots
of very honourable men on and off this list. I think
many people lack respect for other humans in general
and in my opinion, what happened to you stems from
this.

This maybe terrible of me but I got a little kick out
of reading your post about this incident.  Sorry to
say that but it did give me a satisfied sort of
chuckle.

Deborah Brown swooned:
>on a more personal note...in the song, 'Grass', when
>Andy sings..."the way you slap my face just fills me
>with desire"...
I hate to burst your little bubble here but it's not
Andy singing.  It's dear old Colin himself.

Once again the date of Feb. 16th is mentioned as the
release date.  What gives?  Has it been pushed up?
WHAT?!  What?!  This suspense is killing me!  I can't
wait any longer!  I want it now!!!

*sigh*  Sorry about that little outburst.  I'm
learning well from my three year olds. : )

Twitching in anticipation,
Cheryl

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Message-ID: <01BE4E09.DAF64F40.martucci@verio.com>
From: Dean Martucci <martucci@verio.com>
Subject: SSKHKH in NYC
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 17:39:23 -0800

> From: Gary Glauber:
> Subject: Could it be Terry and the Lovemen Redux?
>
> Someone informed me yesterday that on Feb. 27th, the Mercury Lounge in NYC
> is slated to host a performance by Seagulls Screaming Kiss Her Kiss Her.

Asimasen, they are a Japanese trio.  Alternative, minimalist and good. Kind
of like Buffalo Daughter on a budget. Their manager named them and they
didn't know much about AP's music, the last time I talked to them. I'm sure
they've been studying up though, since every time they play in the US
hordes of  XTC fans converge on their shows. Go see them - it'll do ya no
harm.

Announcement:  Pendretti-Allen has got tight abs!  A stud.  Just one of the
things I learned by going to that SFBA xtc louvah fest at Scotties. Thank
you, Ricardo, for the invite - wish I could have stayed long enough to meet
more of you all.  And it's nice to reconnect with the Chalkhill, finally.
It's been ages.

AeyVeeWon!

Deano

::---------------------------<::>---------------------------------::
   Dean Martucci   dean@unicyclerecords.com
><(({"> http://www.unicyclerecords.com <"}))><
(nothing to see there *yet*, but check it out end of Feb!)

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Message-ID: <32C1DEF30B54D211A3DE00A0C9D3458457B72C@PIBCRMEXH001>
From: "McDonald, Roger" <McDonaRF@prose.dpi.qld.gov.au>
Subject: What the.....???
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:04:19 +1000

People like Roger McDonald who wrote back to her (me)
brandishing unwelcome innuendo should hang their heads in shame.
I realise now that all men really are scum.

Huh????

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From: Adamette1@aol.com
Message-ID: <2344048b.36b68043@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 23:34:11 EST
Subject: XTC Survey and Kinks

Chalk,

     A special thanks to Alan for the survey.  I appreciated the results as
they fairly well represent my opinions about the "best and the worst."  I
did have trouble assigning anything about XTC as "worst" but I simply said
to myself that their worst is better than the majority's best.  I
particularly was pleased with the "winners" in the best and worst song
categories.  Although I did not myself vote "Senses" as best it might be the
most easily listenable and most pleasing in the final analysis (I always
thought of it as a sort of Sesame Street tune).  I did vote "Smartest
Monkeys" as worst, as I will never forget listening to Nonsvch for the first
time and cringing with the apparent lack of imagination that prevailed in
the composition and recording of that song.  It is an embarrassment.  I look
forward to what may happen to the survey after Apple Venus gets fully
circulated.

     I took the advice of several Chalkhills contributors, trusted friends
and trade magazines and splurged (Molly Fanton be warned, evidence of CD
purchasing will follow) on the Kinks' first 17 albums in their remastered
form.  Having only acquired "Something Else" before this purchase, it was
truly a treat to explore the treasure trove that is the Kink's catalogue.
(or is that Katalogue?).  I can readily see why the fans that the Kinks have
are so maniacal.  The excellence with which these CDs were reissued is
comparable to the Elvis Costello back catalogue effort, and even surpasses
that effort at various times.  Original cover art, full color illustrations,
liner notes and at times lyrics are included.  Unbelievably, in some cases
both the mono and stereo versions of albums are included and each CD has (on
average) about 6 bonus tracks!!!  With all of this discussion of CD quality
vs. LP, the argument should be made that some material sounds better on CD
simply because it cannot be found on LP!

     3 weeks or so until Apple Venus falls from the proverbial tree!!!

     Patrick

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 15:57:17 +1100
From: Sebastien Maury <MAURY.SEBASTIEN@a2.abc.net.au>
Subject: catch the Red Eye special
Message-Id: <E1043ITR3H086*/R=A1/R=ABCNET/U=MAURYS6G/@MHS>

Good news for Aussie punters: "rip-off" merchants (my words, nobody else's)
Red Eye records in Sydney have heard of AV 1 god bless their little
be-ringed eyebrows (other stores such as HMV look at me blankly as if I'm
ever so slightly deranged), and seem to think that, at the very least, the
Japanese import should be out here in a few weeks...Heaven above only knows
when we might expect something local. And as for biniiru (as the Japanese
would call it-although that word is commonly used for plastic bags-try
playing one of them on yer turn-table), we can always hope, although I
believe the last local vinyl plant closed here a few years ago? Still, TB
was available here soon after release in the grand ole US of eh, so here's
hoping.

I received a CD from a Canadian site the other day which, had I heard it
before I posted my 98 Top 10 late last year, would have gone right to the
top of the small yet significant heap...Pernice Brothers disc Overcome by
Happiness. This mellow, summer tinged piece of aching loss and deception has
some of the most gorgeous songs I've ever heard on it, and even the
flirtation with slightly up-tempo country-style numbers (2 songs) work to my
tastes (which tend not to respond well to twang with hats). Understated
orchestrations, and an almost early Teenage Fanclub feel in its mid-tempo
loll of guitar and strings make for a superlative 38 mins. For anyone who's
interested, they used to be the Scud Mountain Boys, and put out I think 3
albums under that name. Slightly more folk/country infused than this new
one. Smashing.

Right. Carry on.

Seb.

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Message-ID: <19990202045731.10893.qmail@www0d.netaddress.usa.net>
Date: 1 Feb 99 20:57:31 PST
From: Brian Wysolmierski <BWYSOL@netscape.net>
Subject: Papersnow is not Andy's fault

I have to get this off my chest. Its been bugging me for weeks.

I think that Papersnow is the worst piece of crap I've ever listened to
(even worse than President Kill and Washaway). It eats away at my soul and
I'm less of a human being for have listened to it. The first time I heard
it, i wanted to punch Andy's glasses and turn them into contact lenses.

I've cooled off a little since, and I know its not Andy's fault. I can't
believe the Heads gave him such a lame disco song to sing over. There is no
way he could've made that song good (not even with his terrific lyrics).

Washaway, on the other hand, is unforgivable. Shame on you, Colin! That was
a bad one!

-Brian Wysol
http://www.angelfire.com/by/wysol/index.html

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From: "James  Lowe" <jamielowe@email.msn.com>
Subject: Buzzing about XTC
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:26:35 -0600
Message-ID: <0a3785528040229CPIMSSMTPU08@email.msn.com>

Hello Chalkies,  Here is what is buzzing about XTC  from Chicagoland.  Last
Thursday on WXRT 93.1 FM, new releases Thursday they were promoting AV(first
new music since 92) and were playing a soundbite.   Which I recognized as
Andy, but little more.  However, I haven't heard anything more yet.  I also
heard them mention that TB did not make their best of 98, but how could it
being released so late in the year.  I myself did not find it till January
99 at CDNOW.  This radio station (XRT) is one of two places here that
actually plays XTC,  Q101 being the other.

Additionally, the Chicago Tribune gave TB a good review except for All along
the watchtower which they felt was unlistenable, I have to agree.  And dear
readers in the Feb. issue of GQ magazine this review of AV appeared.  Worts
and all:  "Are you ready for girls with Kaleidoscope eyes? XTC is back with
its first album in seven years.  Rockfield (TVT) finds the group picking up
where it left off-right in the middle of the Beatles Magical Mystery Tour.
The bands Beatlemanic tendencies have begun to grate, not because the Fab
Four weren't fab, but because XTC and leader Andy Partridge are so fixated
on the mar baroque side: Can we not move on from our collective love of "
Being for the benefit of Mr.. Kite"?  Despite this, Partridge et al. remain
enormously talented and generally expert-texpert.  Hence the fine symphonic
drip of "River of Orchids"  and the verbal taunts of "Your Dictionary."
(F-u-c-k. Is that how you spell "friend" in your dictionary?... S-h-I-t.  Is
that how you spell me?)  The latter is pure fun, a nursery rhyme dipped in
arsenic-and a reminder of what the band can do when it is not mimicking
about"  END QUOTE.

Well sounds as if it is just another great XTC album to me and only a short
22 days more to wait.  Cheers!   Jamie

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Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:05:04 -0000
From: "James  " <terbaxter@eudoramail.com>
Message-ID: <EAAJLILOKLGAAAAA@shared1-mail.whowhere.com>
Subject: it woz me!
Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail  (http://www.eudoramail.com:80)

Hi All,

Just when I thought I thought I had my XTC head tuned 100% into anticipation
of Apple Venus volume 1, David Oh prompted me to dash off this short
pedantic message.

>From: David Oh <davidoh@interlog.com>
Subject: add naw-see-um

Dave's list of names which people had called him included:-

>an "r-sol" [arsehole. geddit?] (dom)

That wozn't Dom that called u an r-sol, that woz me that called u an r-sol,
u r-sol.

James

XTC song of the day: X-wires

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Message-ID: <36B704F9.FA2AE9A0@ci.conover.nc.us>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 09:00:25 -0500
From: erik schlichting <eriks@ci.conover.nc.us>
Subject: Clock watching

Chalkhillites,

It has become dreadfully apparent that February 23rd will not arrive
soon enough. I have spent the last week on a fruitless quest to find a
promo of "Apple Venus," or a promo disc with one of the new tracks on
it, leaving no music store or music magazine unturned. I don't care if
you're only 20, how can you work in a music store and not know who
(what) XTC is (are)? It should be illegal. There should be a "music
store clerk test." I tried to wheedle a promo from a good friend who
OWNS a music store, and he didn't even know there was a new album coming
out. If it weren't for the fact that he's a flaming Madonna/Bette Midler
fan, this could've been a lifelong-grudge offence. I took his blue chalk
and wrote "XTC" in big letters on the upcoming release board.
So, the alternative is to contact the only two local stations who might
know who XTC is. My e-mail campaign has so far garnered no responses. I
spent the last few days switching back and forth in the car and at home
(I never listen to the radio at home), finally breaking down and calling
the one station last night. I was rather tersely told that they did not
have the disc, though it was obvious that the DJ was totally unfamiliar
with XTC and didn't take the time to look. Won't call while he's there
again.
I can't take it anymore; today will consist of "Black Sea," "English
Settlement," and maybe some NPR, but absolutely no commercial radio. If
I have to listen to Aerosmith, Matchbox20 or (ugh!) Hootie and the
Blowjobs one more time, I will go postal.
Thanks for letting me vent my frustrations to an understanding audience.
My friends and co-workers are beginning to think that I'm going mad and
"XTC" is some sort of brainwashing, satanic cult.

"I only wanna be with YOOOuuuuOOOOuuuuu...."

Erik

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Message-ID: <19990202142020.18187.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 06:20:20 -0800 (PST)
From: nross <phoenixyellowrose@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Sean Cassidy... remember me?

In the depths of winter I finally learned there was in
me an invincible summer.
-- Albert Camus

Ah... cool quote.

Neal Buck!: Hey! Yes I listen (sometimes) to HFS.
                 Yes I was there, Oct, at the Keneally event.
                 Were you the one I was talking to about Sean Cassidy
                 And how you heard this really rocking song by him,
                 which is unusual... or was it David Cassidy, I
                 think it was Sean, cause it shocked me more...?
                 I was there with my friend Mary from Pittsburgh...
                 I think you were sitting next to Kate ...
                 I have a weird memory for things.
Anyway... HI!!!! and... does Lou Brutus plan on playing the music
 and interviewing them again?????? -Nicole

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Message-ID: <36B72EB1.F14D660C@which.net>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 16:58:25 +0000
From: B Blanchard <b.blanchard@which.net>
Subject: Nebraska

No XTC content I'm sorry.
I'm writing something about a guy and need some geographical help
with the state of Nebraska.I live in London and am English so
what do I know.
Can anyone email me privately who lives there or has lived there
or knows it well?
Oh alright then - XTC content - for those of you who remember me
going on about how to introduce my 18 year old cousin to XTC when
he had never heard of them - I taped a 2 hour compilation tape of
my own for him on Sunday.  Mailed it today (Tuesda) I'll let you
know what he thinks - I KNOW you'll be dying to know.  I
certainly am.  It was fun to do and of course in the end I wanted
to keep the tape to myself.   There - XTC content over!  Nebraska
info please email me privately and I'll reply with questions and
stuff.  Thanks very much.  Belinda

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Message-ID: <005701be4edb$4476e700$0c1017d4@default>
From: "Steve Jackson" <smj@zen.co.uk>
Subject: Re Huggy Bear
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 18:30:53 -0000

Don't know about the others, but Huggy Bear actually does exist, they
are(or were)a sexually integrated(i.e. both girls and boys in the
band)punk band from L.A., or somewhere on the west coast. Never heard
them myself, but I remember them mentioned in an article on the Riot
Grrrl movement of a few years ago.

Not quite....Riot Grrrls yes....Californians no. Huggy Bear (who,
thankfully, are no more) were British.

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Message-ID: <36B749DF.494A@bellatlantic.net>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 13:54:23 -0500
From: John Irvine <jirvine@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Re: Forward into the Past

Chalkers-

These two posts next to each other:

"It also never ceases to amaze me how little control the record industry
allows the artist over their own work. It really is about time that the
whole edifice came crashing down and was replaced by something that
better connects those with the talent to their
audience."

Followed By:
"THIS WEEKS DAVE GREGORY REAL AUDIO FILE"

...got me a thinkin' that we are on the edge of something new here with
this MP3/RA/CDR internet smorasbord o' sound.  I don't honestly think
the record companies know what they are up against, or can possibly
control it.

Or maybe they can and will, and we'll all be strung up by our testicles
for our illegal downloads, on evidence provided by our Pentium Threes.

The Future Was A Few Days Ago.  And I was sleepin'.

Would XTC (Idea) make more money from AV if they had no contracts, and
sold say 10,000 copies from their very own web site?  This is basically
what Stereolab started doing with their mail-order singles on their own
label, and they have never had to answer to anyone for their music.  It
seems that the whole Record Industry is designed to make the middleman
rich. Power to the artists - technology may yet set you free.

How many are on this list anyway?  Just how big a fish are we?

John Irvine

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Message-ID: <19990202194906.28149.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 11:49:06 -0800 (PST)
From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com>
Subject: Cd's-too expensive?

After reading a few opinions in these postings about the price of
comoact discs, let me throw in my opinion:

Yes, they cost too damn much! A cd costs less to manufacture than a
cassette tape, but sells for much more. Why? Because the record
industry knows it can get away with it. Yes, it's true that the
expence of running a record store is high, but I don't really blame
the retailers for a cd's price. When I worked at a record store a few
years ago, I was amazed at how the major distributors kept raising
prices. Warner/Electra/Asylum was the worst at this, their prices were
always going up. I know that the artists saw none of this money. It's
just the corporate mindset at work-get as much profit as you can, and
screw everything else.

okay, I'm through ranting now.

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Message-Id: <s6b716b1.015@chemonics.com>
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1999 14:59:34 -0500
From: Todd Bernhardt <tbernhardt@chemonics.com>
Subject: The final solution?

Hi:

Reflections on the last couple of issues...

Thanks to Mr. Relph for placing the VH-1 reminder at the top of  #76.

Thanks, too, to Mark Rushton for answering my charting/ordering
question. What I wonder now is, do pre-orders count toward that "first
week of sales" figure? They should, but perhaps they're a category
unto themselves? I dunno...  In any case, I'll be one of the thousands
(wish it was millions) buying gifts of AV1 for loved ones, trying to
up that entry figure. C'mon Chalkers, let's make our presence
(presents?) known!

More thanks to Stormy for his Steely Dan primer. Elliot Randall played
that lead in one take? Fuck. Guess I'll stick to my day job.

"Molly" replied:
>The wounderful Todd Bernhardt said:<

"_Wound_erful"! My god, Andy, you are fucking brilliant. I never in a
million years would have thought of a visual pun like that. Just can't
help yourself, can you?

Steve Pitts replied to Duncan Kimball about Harrison Sherwood (who's
secretly in love with Richard Pedretti-Allen -- rumor has it that he
calls him when he's naked, making me jealous, of course, because when
he calls me he refuses to take off the garters, spike heels and those
stockings with the line up the back that he says he's wearing),
saying:
>Don't be daft - I'd bet it was all done with a computer program,
there are certainly plenty of them about. Of course, they still had to
be woven into the text, and that was well done, but I doubt that he
sat down and dreamt up all those anagrams from scratch <

He wasn't talking about the _anagrams._ Sheesh. He was admiring his
large ... wait for it ... vocabulary.

Finally (I hope it's for the last time, anyway), I believe that David
Oh's "list of citations" in #75 has, ironically, provided the key to
stopping this thread: It's obvious that all the attention Dave has
been getting over his "style" is giving him a big woodie. I can just
see him, sitting alone by his computer, surrounded by all the
printouts of all the posts about his activities (much like another
David ... Berkowitz, that is), saying, "Look at this validation of my
style! All these people, writing about _me_!  I _am_ somebody!!"
Better to just ignore him and hope he fades away, eh? One way of
approaching this, anyway...

Todd

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Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:21:21 -0600
From: LAG2471@ACS.TAMU.EDU
Message-Id: <990202142121.204c3449@ACS.TAMU.EDU>
Subject: Publicity Possibility: PRI's "World Cafe"

Hi Gang,

With all the talk of the new album, and trying to get some publicity for
The Boys, I've got a suggestion.  The PRI radio network's show "World Cafe"
often plays cuts from XTC albums.  They also interview artists and bring
them into the studio to play live.  I've sent them an email suggesting that
they program a show in connection with the new album's release.  You may
also want to do the same.  Their email address is worldcafe@email.pri.org

If The Boys *do* make it on the air I'd be glad to try to tape the show for
those of you who don't get PRI in your area.

Lore

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Message-Id: <v03020903b2dd148fa46c@[129.105.37.240]>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:55:34 -0600
From: Olof Hellman <hellman@ksan.ms.nwu.edu>
Subject: I liked that

Just want to send my thanks out to Richard for doing the Bay Area get
together.  It was fun to meet all of you, although my voice was thoroughly
destroyed the next day.

And, I've got to say that the bluegrass version of "Crocodile" from Modern
Time Neros is a gem (not to disparage the other Children...), ranking well
above most of Testimonial Dinner.  kudos to Harrison Sherwood (it was
Harrison, right?) and his band.

- Olof

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Message-Id: <199902022056.VAA04351@mail.knoware.nl>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:05:37 +0000
Subject: Bits And Pieces

Dear Chalkers,

Couple of minor points:

> BTW I agree with the recent comment about 'Inevitable Groin',
> since I hear it as - the inevitable 'Groin' - too, and that
> would strike me as part of the Peel pastiche
Yes, i agree. This is how I hear it too. And it's very "in character"
with the Peel personality

> ITS CALLED TIN SOLDIER AND I DONT KNOW WHO WROTE IT BUT ITS A
> COVER. AND ITS ON REMOULDS.
Shame on you! Tin Soldier is _the_ Small Faces classic of course

What a song and what a terrific version our Dave recorded. I'm not
100% sure but i think he's the only one who ever dared to cover it.
Please correct me if i'm wrong

> Subject: Re: Stipe
Well, that kinda says it all in a nutshell...

Why do we keep talking about REM when there is much XTC happening
right now for the first time in seven bloody long years!
Honestly, sometimes you Chalkfolk really make me wonder.

REM once played a support gig for XTC and played a couple of XTC
tunes on that occasion and that is all i need to know about them.
Please take it elsewhere, i'm sure there's a REM mailing list

Before i go: heaps of thanks to David F. for the picture and Jon R.
for the promo and a big hug & pat on the back to my mate Paul "down
under". The cd is in the mail, buddy!

yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse
 http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello/
     or http://come.to/xtc

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Message-Id: <199902022057.VAA04357@mail.knoware.nl>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 22:05:37 +0000
Subject: Apple Venus Artwork Revealed!

Dear Chalkers,

I'm sure some of you are just as curious as i was so i've put a
picture of the new album artwork on my Little Lighthouse site.

I'm also sure that many of you may have wondered about how a
peacock's feather could be used to visualize Apple Venus.
Well, now that i've seen it, i understand. It's almost obscenely
obvious...

Looks like Andy has revamped the original Skylarking sleeve design
idea !

Just point your browsers to

http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello/index.html

and all will be revealed...

ta,

Mark Strijbos

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