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Subject: Chalkhills Digest #5-75

          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 75

                 Monday, 1 February 1999

Today's Topics:

                      Fiddle faddle
                     Japanese Updated
                 VH1-where are they now?
                 The Early Days of XTC...
                   Why am I shaking so?
                    Peter Pumpkinhead
   Skylarking Demos - Does Dave Play On 1000 Umbrellas?
                    First Impressions
                        slow coal?
                      add naw-see-um
                        The Kinks
                        Q magazine
                     XTC demo CD set?
                         AV Demos
                       AV dreaming
                  Re: discount web site
                           Q CD
                XTCSweepstake: The Answer
        Devo, the Residents, Pee-Wee Herman...XTC
               Survey Results Corrections..
             Re: Joe Pass, minidisc, and AV1
                      Slowhills etc.


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Message-ID: <>
From: "Amanda Owens" <>
Subject: Fiddle faddle
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 08:23:34 CST

(Yawn) Must......get....sleep....but before that:

Chris Clee said:

>sorry dear, but you need to clean the wax out of your ears.......
Actually, if I were to do that, my ears would have no natural barriers
against germs and crap. So I think I'll let my nasty wax stay put.

>new version is crisper and faster
I think it's called R-E-M-A-S-T-E-R-I-N-G. Lots of bands use it these
days when re-releasing old material to fit in with today's sound
standards. You may have heard of it.

>the guitar background towards the end is not the same,
Ummm...yes it is.

>it ain't the same and
>my ears can tell the diff,
In this corner: Andy, Dave, Mitch, me. In that corner: you. Bottom line,
I think I'll listen to the opinion of the men who actually recorded the
song. They say it's the same. It's the same. End of story.

Michael Roden said:

>I wish that Andy had kept his mouth shut about Dave in that
>Raygun article.
Pardon my French, but A-FUCKING-MEN!!!!!!!

>Even if they parted on not-so-great terms, Dave
>gave nearly 20 years of his musical life, heart and soul, to XTC.
20 completely wonderful (in the musical sense that is) years.

>That deserves the utmost respect.
I don't think Andy knows what that is.

 I hope that Andy doesn't air
>any more dirty laundry like that.
Now that's what I call hoping against hope. But Mitch did say yesterday
that the writer of the article didn't have to print absolutely
EVERYTHING that Andy said. And this may sound completely out of
character for me, but it's not like Dave is an innocent victim here.

Randy Hiatt said:

>From: "Amanda Owens"Wonder if Dave tried that recipe yet....anyhoo.
>You make me want to Bite you Amanda.
Hope you have strong teeth, because I've got thick skin.

DavidOh said:

>blah, blah, blah, woof, woof, woof!
Uh-oh, the dog's scratching to be let out!

>why? because i'm a "dick-weed", a "cocky git" & "an idiot" who lax
>"originality" and "credibility".
No argument there.

>it must be true, dom sez so! everybody just knowz he'z da boss 'round
Thought it was John....

>waiting patiently 4 av1 (so we can move on 2 another thread...)
Whoa, do you honestly think that once the album's released people are
going to stop talking about it? If anything, I think the threads about
AV1 are going to at least triple.

The illustrious Dominic Lawson said:

>No, quite, and bless you for that. Unfortunately "little" David is
>completely immune to criticism and chooses to ignore it rather than respond
>and explain himself in a way that us blinkered Nazis can comprehend. Still,
>in many ways it's better that he takes the no-dick approach. After all, it
>spares us reading any more of his "lookit meeee!" nonsense. Or should that
>be nonzenz?

>>>i'd luv 2 be involved in an online chat. that iz, if i'm allowed 2
>contribute!  sumthing tellz me that i won't be allowed 2, tho...
>There he goes again. The poor little lamb. Not a dry seat in the house.
Uggh! What did I just sit in?!?!?!

Tis all for now,
Amanda C. Owens
"People will always be tempted to wipe their feet on anything with
welcome written on it."-Andy Partridge
XTC song of the day-Extrovert
non XTC song-Gimme Some More-Busta Rhymes
Kewl website of the day-


Message-ID: <13622E6FCA31D211A66B0008C71E812CA8F713@SHN-MSG-01>
From: Naoyuki Isogai <>
Subject: Japanese Updated
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 05:27:13 -0800

Hello there,

After a long interval, Japanese version of "All About XTC" and "FAQ" has
been updated at last (courtesy of the Web master "Mr bsx").  Please do come
and check it out whether you understand Japanese or not!!!

Chalkhills All About XTC Japan
Chalkhills XTC FAQ Japan

Thank you,

(Please forward this to Chalkhills if necessary)

            --	Naoyuki Isogai <>
	Product Manager, Developer Product Marketing
	Microsoft Co., Ltd. (Japan)


Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 10:02:04 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <>
From: DCB-MBB <>
Subject: VH1-where are they now?

Saw this on a VH1 schedule mailing:

 'Next week also brings another new episode of Where Are They Now, this time
on the British Invasion. The special will include interviews with Holly
Johnson (Frankie Goes to Hollywood), Annabella Lewin (Bow Wow Wow ), Jools
Holland (Squeeze), ANDY PARTRIDGE (XTC), Dave Wakeling (English Beat),
Limahl (Kajagoogoo), Robbie Gray  (Modern English), Nick Feldman (Wang
Chung), Gary and Martin Kemp (Spandau Ballet), Bruce Dickinson (Iron
Maiden), Gary Glitter, David Bowie, Boy George and The Buggles.'---


From: Kimberly Martin <>
Subject: LMNOP
Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 15:23:29 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)

Hey guize::  ;D
	I was just looking thru the most recent post (don't have time
to read all of them right now, just don't have the time here at
school!) and noticed some discussion about a band called LMNOP.  Yes,
there was, and still IS (as far as I know) a band called LMNOP, and
they're from Atlanta, GA.  The same guys who do the notorious,
hilarious and wicked sick-humor zine "Baby Sue" (and Baby Sue's sister
zine "Baby Sue Review," which always gives good reviews to local pop
bands such as Kenny Howes and the YEAH!) are also the guys behind the
band LMNOP. They have been putting out records since about the
mid-80's, and probably have more than 3 albums.  The music, from what
I've heard of it, is pretty straightforward happy-pop stuff with some
off-kilter lyrical themes.  Not quite as extreme as "Baby Sue" though.
	As far as XTC is concerned...this may just be me, but I think
Apple Venus is going to be one of the most critically acclaimed new
releases of this year.  Hopefully it will also sell well, but judging
from the average listener's average, I guess the
Offspring's new cd will still be flying off the shelves.  But, those of
us in the know KNOW what XTC are doing, and it's irrevelant whether
they achieve material success or not.  If they do, it can't be said
that they're "selling out"--it should rather be marvelous to see
average listeners actually recognizing greatness.  Mozart was not
appreciated by the masses in his day.  However, he WAS greatness, and
it took the world years to fully comprehend exactly what he was doing.
Just like with XTC--I can't recall EVER listening to an XTC record for
the first time and going, "WOW, this is GREAT!"--I had to listen to it
a few more times, let it slowly seep its way into my brain, not just
hit me all at once with a blunt and brutal blow to my brain's
pleasure-receptors.  Often, music that I LOVE the first time I hear
gets old quickly.  However, there are exceptions (the Zombies' "Odessey
and Oracle" being the most obvious example that springs to mind--I've
had this cd since last summer and can't stop listening to it).  But,
although I like to think of XTC as a "pop" band, they are NOT the
"traditional" sort of "pop" band (there's pop and then there's pop).
They don't write catchy singles that fly up the charts and then are
instantly forgotten.  XTC's music transcends time and space, yeah!!!
	I've been reading too much "Cosmic Trigger" lately (hey, any
more Wilson freaks out there?).  I'd better shut up now before I start
saying that XTC's music is really a transmission from higher
intelligences!  :)
now, back to whatever I was doing before I started procrastinating by
writing this--
  93 93 93,


Message-Id: <>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:22:06 +0000
From: Simon Sleightholm <>
Subject: The Early Days of XTC...

Hello there,

I've recently been in contact with Steve Warren, XTC's old
road-manager/sound man and he's been teasing me with little hints about the
various demos, reheasal tapes and live shows he has in his collection.
While I work on getting some concrete details out of him, he's been kind
enough to consider answering any questions that we might have about those
early days.

If anyone has any questions they'd like to put to him (this is, after all,
the man from whose sound board most of those live bootlegs were siphoned)!
they can pass them on to me (with a subject line like XTC Questions or
similar) and I'll send them off to him - the results will be published on my
Bungalow page, of course, and - size and Mr Relph permitting - posted here

As I say I'm getting little joy out of him about the demos; he keeps telling
me what he's got but not what he'd like to see done with them (I expect he's
interested in trading, but whether for other tapes or for cash I simply
don't know).  But if you want to be considered as a possible contact for
when he makes his aims clear then, again, let me have your details and I'll
pass them on - email addresses should be enough for now.



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An XTC resource - "Saving it all up for you..."


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:12:48 EST
Subject: Why am I shaking so?

It's almost here.  I just got the Sound & Vision article and it is finally
sinking in that a new XTC album will be here.

Why is everyone so angry at Andy about his Dave comments in Raygun?  They
didn't seem that unreasonable to me with the exception of not working with
Dave again.  The man is entitled to his opinion.  Besides the key comment in
that article, to me, came from Colin.  When Colin said that Dave was
negative towards everything, that attitude must have been putting a damper
on the proceedings.  Dave's gone, Andy and Colin are continuing to make
great music, this is the present state of XTC and they've weather so many
storms before, I can't wait to see the outcome of this one.



Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 16:15:03 -0800
From: "Jeffrey W Wall M.D." <>
Subject: Peter Pumpkinhead

Hi folks,

I've been lurking around here for a while.

I've created an image based on The Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead - I'd
just like to get some of the Chalkers opinions on it.

take the Peter Pumpkinhead link at to see it



p.s. next image will be Smartest Monkeys


Message-ID: <000e01be4be3$82b34a40$285556d1@mabrey>
From: "Andisheh Nouraee" <>
Subject: Skylarking Demos - Does Dave Play On 1000 Umbrellas?
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 19:00:11 -0500

I recently got a copy of the Skylarking Demos on cassette.  To those of you
in the know, I have a question:  The string parts of 1000 Umbrellas are on
the demo, but they are played on a keyboard.  Did Dave Gregory play on the
demo?  If so, did he (or Colin) play on any or all of the other demos?

I'd like that, if you would help me sort this out.

Andisheh of Atlanta


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:47:12 +0000
From: "Neal H. Buck" <>
Subject: First Impressions


I have a copy of the demos (thanks again for insisting, Kate!), which I
haven't listened to since Halloween. I was one of those who did not want
to spoil the enjoyment of the finished product by hearing the beta
versions. However, I bit the bullet, and was glad I did. At the same
time, I decided not to over-listen and to enforce a moratorium on them
so that my memory wouldn't get in the way. I still remember my
impressions of the songs, though, and I'm not sure if "Your Dictionary"
or "I'd Like That" would be the best choices. "Dictionary" would
generate press, of course, with the "Beavis & Butthead" factor, ("Heh,
heh, he spelled '"fuck"'), but it's not real catchy. "I'd Like That" is
sweet, appealing to the "nice" crowd, but not a real grabber, either. We
need a song that will grab and not let go! In terms of popularity/album
sales, a great hook is more important than clever lyrics. Don't get me
wrong! I'm not talking about what is "better," I'm talking about Elvis
P. selling more albums than Elvis C., about Lenny Kravitz, for chrissake
("Wish I could fly/like a dragonfly/up in the sky/so very high" - Oh
brother! And the hook is OK, but just repeats ad nauseum - but people
are lapping it up!). God forbid Andy/Colin ever write to pander to this
mentality. I'm talking about choosing from the existing body of work.
First impressions, ya know? "River of Orchids" or "Green Man" would seem
like a more infectous introduction for the deprived. While it seems to
defy what I just said, if a song is brilliant enough, it can't help but
sell (not always, I know). So if "Easter Theater" is as good (or better)
than the demos, that may be a good one. As a band that has begun to get
the "where are they now" label, XTC may only get one shot at
recognition. Let's make sure this one sticks!

Band names: I used to (used to?) fantasize about forming a band, but
never was able to make it a reality. However, in Geography class, I read
about two places in (at that time) the USSR that sounded like they'd
make great band names. For a heavy metal band, "Krivoy Rog," and for a
more psychodelic combo, "The Kirsk Magnetic Anomaly." Don't know if
you'd have to get permission/pay royalties or something, but there you

nross - You're an HFS listener, too? Were you at the Mike Keneally event
last Oct? I was... The morning guy is Lou Brutus ("ha, ha"), and I've
previously posted about his promo w/Andy & Colin and TB. I still need to
send them e-mails on AV1.

All for now,


Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 20:56:42 -0500
From: Dave Rutherford <>
Subject: slow coal?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.00.9901292029350.12911-100000@esun1006>

Hi Chalksters,

I haven't seen anyone mention the oddity that "Train Running Low On
Soul Coal" appears in _Song Stories_ as "...Slow Coal" (yes, and in the
forward, er, index.) Seems like a difficult mishearing... hmm.

About a month ago, me & my girl were in the local independent record
shop. Nothing had caught my eye, but she'd found a few things of
interest. As we were waiting at the counter, the owner was on the
phone, and I happened to overhear something like "... and you've got to
hear the new XTC demos!" Not to excite you, but this disc did have some
stuff I hadn't yet heard, and I plunked down $20 without a second's
thought. (Moralists fear not; I have preordered FOUR copies of AV1
against the day it should eventually ship. They'll make good gifts; and
I want this baby to chart.)

Many of these demos I already had, either through Hello Recording Club,
or others from a tape sent me by a chalker so long ago I no longer
remember at all who it was, but some of these new-to-me songs are
fantastic. "Church of Women" in particular does not want to exit my
synapses, and unlike lesser music, I'm glad rather than irritated to
have it stuck in my brain. Whaddya mean it's not on AV1? - oh, well,
I'm still looking forward to perfected production on 9 of the 11 tunes,
and will get to hear "Harvest Festival" and "Fruit Nut" with fresh
ears. "Greenman" is wonderful, too, though I don't know that I know
why. For the record, the boot's called "In the sidings and by the

CDNOW still has Feb 23 as the AV1 release date, but what do they know?
Oh, the agony of waiting...

Enough bandwidth for me,


Message-Id: <>
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1999 21:15:53 -0500
From: David Oh <>
Subject: add naw-see-um

                    - WARNING - WILL ROBINSON - WARNING -
            (altho u mite find sumthing of interest, dom lawson)

this iz the absolute last time i will respond 2 anymore "davidoh-bashing".
frankly, it'z getting more tedious than my "alleged style" iz...

i have gone over several recent digests & have compiled a list of some of
the things said about me & my posting "style". it makes 4 sum interesting

by far, the most vociferous, voluminous & vitriolic (how'z that 4 use of
the english language!) haz cum from a certain dom lawson.

i have been called:
>Prince in disguise
>[a] boring tit (dom)
>obviously far too far up [my] own sphincter (dom)
>out of [my] depth (dom)
>unoriginal and hugely tedious (dom)
>pretentious (dom)
>TAFKA DavidOh [i assume it meanz "the arsehole formerly (or frequently)
known >az davidoh]
>communcation challenged
>a Prince imitation
>dull (dom)
>an "r-sol" [arsehole. geddit?] (dom)
>pathetic (dom)
>a "Tw@" [that'z "twat" 4 the conceptually impaired] (dom)
>a juvenile schoolboy (dom)
>feeble and pretentious (dom)
>a dick-weed (dom)
>a cocky git, with precious little to be cocky about (dom)
>[davidoh] is Andy P in disguize [i wish!]

sum say my writing style iz:
>the best reasons to exercise the "Page Down" option
>like an 80s poodle-rock band (dom)
>so tiresome
>limiting [my] potential audience
>[trying 2 b] different/controversial
>trying 2 b clever
>a desperate attempt [@] individuality (dom)
>a lack of originality (dom)
>contrived (dom)

has nobody noticed that the name of the band iz  X - T - C, which iz, again
if nobody had noticed, shorthand?!? & didn't they have an album called "go
2"? perhapz the band should change their name, 'cuz they don't know how 2
spell it properly!?!? nah, that'z just being 2 "clever"...

dom'z posts seem 2 indicate that his sole purpose in life (or in this
digest, anyway) iz 2 antagonize any1 & every1. 1 could speculate that dom
is physically impaired in certain partz of the anatomy & therefore triez 2
compensate by bullying & bluster, much like a cheep dime-store hoodlum
would do...

i have never called anybody who postz 2 this digest a derogatory name, nor
have i ever denigrated anybody 4 their lack of skillz with the english
language. that'z not my "style".

so, no dom, seriously, i _will not_ shut up!!! i _will not_ conform 2 the
world according 2 dom! it ain't gonna happan, dude!

& that'z all i will say about that!

btw, in case any1 iz still reading...

>I might be totally wrong here but isn't Jim Page be in the league
mentioned >above. As I recall it he lost one of his index-fingers somewhere
around >"Houses of the Holy" or "Physical Grafitti". Or is this something I
have >dreamed up?
>Johan Ekdahl

hopefully u'll read this, johan, & not page down like sum otherz, but jimmy
page broke his left-hand middle finger shortly b4 the "physical grafitti"
i saw zep @ the montreal forum in feb. 1975. i only learned about the
broken finger in the next day'z paper; he "done a blinder" that night. iow,
he wuz brilliant!



Message-ID: <002901be4bf9$6e95bf00$695791d2@johnboud>
From: "John Boudreau" <>
Subject: The Kinks
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:36:25 +0900

Steven Mahoney wrote :

>spent the whole morning listening to the villiage green
>preservation society, arthur, and everyone's in showbiz and I have now
>come to the conclusion that the kinks are my new favorite band ( next to
>xtc, of course) with lyrics which have acute social awareness and a broad
>range in sound- which other albums should I hear next? there are so many
>it overwhelms me....

  Hey Steve -

     I have been a big Kinks fan for ages and have just about everything
they ever recorded ( almost all on vinyl ) . I recommend you pick up " Face
To Face " , " Something Else By The Kinks " , " Muswell Hillbillies " ; and
a compilation CD that includes all the early hit singles ( " You Really Got
Me " ; " All Day and All of The Night " ; " Tired Of Waiting For You " ; "
Dedicated Follower Of Fashion " ; " A Well Respected Man " ; etc. ) plus
stuff like " See My Friends " ; " Dead End Street " ; " Autumn Almanac " ;
and " Days " .  I have a copy of the doube LP compilation entitled " The
Kinks Kronikles " on Reprise that I would highly recommend . Don't know if
it is available on CD , though .  I would be more than happy to put a "
sampler " cassette together for you or anyone else on the list who is
interested . As most of us know , The Kinks were one of AP's fave groups
when he was a young lad .

John in Japan


Message-ID: <0996E8BB33A8D01194A7006097278BC5157088@WALLACE>
From: Peter Walker <>
Subject: Q magazine
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 12:54:18 -0000

Hello people,

In the spirit of UK music mag Mojo having Easter Theatre on this months
subscribers' CD, you might be interested to know that their sister
publication Q (for the marginally less aged) has Greenman on their
equivalent CD this month; a most pleasant experience that just about made up
for the discovery a few tracks later that Nik Kershaw is attempting a

Seriously though, these are most encouraging developments, since it suggests
that Cooking Vinyl are pitching their promotion to the correct area of the
market; UK mailers would probably agree that it wouldn't have the same
effect to stick such a track on an NME giveaway.....

Having trouble imagining it played on Radio 1 though.



Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 07:57:05 -0600 (CST)
Message-Id: <>
From: (Jim S)
Subject: XTC demo CD set?

Has this project been confirmed, the box set of XTC demos that Andy is
supposedly working on?  Can we assume that this will be available in wide
release and available at reputable music stores?  This project has me really
psyched.  I have some of the demos on CD, but a box set would just be too

Also, do you all think that Apple Venus Vol. 2 will come to fruition?
Knowing how Andy is, I can see the whole project changing as it evolves. I
LOVE the stuff on AV1, but always like to hear Andy and Colin rock out a
bit. If AV2 is completed as planned, what demo songs do you thnk will make
the final cut? The only one I would say that is guarenteed to be on the
record is "Playground." I'd love to see "I Don't Want To Be Here" and "Chuch
of Women" as well.  Do any of you insiders have any info on what is to be
recorded for AV2?  I'd sure love to hear what the plans are...

Thanks for any info!

 Jim S.     <>
Serious fan of:
*St. Louis Rams       *Michigan Wolverines       *"JAWS"
     *St. Louis Cardinals        *XTC        *MST3K

Staff member/writer for the Sports Gaming Network
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Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 09:42:54 EST
Subject: AV Demos

Hello Fellow Chalksters,

I received a CDR copy of AP's demos for AV1 (and possibly AV2) and I must
say I find them quite lovely (great sound to boot, no pun intended).  I
can't wait for the actual release.  This CD has 16 tracks and I was
wondering if any of you out there may have or know of more songs out there
(from the AV series) that are not listed below.  The tracks are:

1. River of Orchids
2. You and the clouds will still be beautiful
3. Wonder Annual
4. I'd like That
5. Knights in Shining Karma
6. Easter Theater
7. Prince of Orange
8. My Brown Guitar
9. The Last Balloon
10. Church of Women
11. Dame Fortune
12. Green Man
13. Bumper Cars
14. Your Dictionary
15. I Can't Own Her
16. All I need is a Friend

Thanks for your comments...etc.



Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 10:26:33 -0500
From: AUTOreverse <>
Subject: AV dreaming


I am somewhat embarassed to confess that I had a dream about buying AV
about a month ago. It is not unusual (though it is very sad) for me to
dream about XTC.

In this dream I was at a small retail music place and I picked up AV and
brought it very close to my face to inspect it in full detail. The jewel
box was a similar glowiness to the box set ones, but more of a yellow
color. And down the spine it said "XTC APPLE VENUS SQUEEZE" which I read
out loud. My wife (standing near me in the dream) said she thought it
was confusing for XTC to put SQUEEZE's name on their CD but I assured
her that it was all part of the plan...

Ian C Stewart
XTC videos, get 'em while they're hotttttt:


Message-Id: <>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 10:37:04 -0600
From: "Jerry Kaelin" <>
Subject: Re: discount web site

Thanks to Scott Anderson for the info on $10 off on AV1 for first time
users of Music Blvd:

And thanks to Mark Strijbos for "The Little Lighthouse," THE BEST XTC


Message-Id: <>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:16:17 +0000
From: Simon Sleightholm <>
Subject: Q CD

A quickie - subscribe to Q magazine this month (01858 435 341) and you'll
receive a free 15 track CD which includes Greenman from Apple Venus.  The
blurb goes - "In-back-to-basic terms, XTC have decided that just releasing
an album would be good. Apple Venus Volume 1 is founder members Andy
Partridge and and Colin Moulding's first in seven years (guitarist Dave
Gregory departed in the interim).  Typically, they've taken the
non-commercial action, excluded electric instruments and plumped for a
luscious acoustic/orchestral."


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An XTC resource - "Saving it all up for you..."


Message-Id: <>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 18:26:58 +0000
Subject: XTCSweepstake: The Answer

Dear Chalkers,

Here's the result of my XTC mini-compo...
The only correct answer was, of course, Go 2

By far the most noticeable and peculiar XTC sleeve design because it
doesn't show any pictures. And that is _very_ unusual for a record
sleeve (go on, check your collection).

Anyway, a copy of the new Apple Venus Vol. I cd is now on it's way to
the winner, Steve McAllister who mailed me the first correct answer.

yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:09:29 -0800 (PST)
From: Tyler Hewitt <>
Subject: Devo, the Residents, Pee-Wee Herman...XTC

Todd Bernhardt wrote:

Ben noticed that Devo's Mark Mothersbaugh contributed to the music for
Rugrats. If you want to hear more, check out old episodes (the only
kind) of "Pee-Wee's Playhouse," to which MM used to contribute (and
for which I think he wrote the theme music). Our pal Todd Rundgren
also used to contribute incidental music to this most twisted and
surreal of children's shows (and check out unknown Lawrence Fishburne
as Cowboy Curtis!)
* ---------------------------------

It seems like some of the music for Pee-Wee's Playhouse was written my
Danny Elfman, but I may be confusing it with Pee-Wee's Big Adventure.
ALso, The Residents did all the music for the "Playhuse in Space"
episode (also known as the Zyzzybalubah episode). Cyndi Lauper is the
vocalist (uncredited) on the show's theme music, and comic book
artist/designer Gary Panter (Attack of the Elvis Zombies, Jimbo,
assorted Residents record covers) did the set design. Oh, and Phil
Hartman was a regular for a while-before he became famous. In other
words, that show was loaded wth talent! Fox Family cable channel in
the U.S. has been running old episodes (4:30 p.m. weekdays Central
time), and watching a few, it struck me how  consistantly excellant
that show was. I was a huge fan during the initial run, but had pretty
much forgotten about it.

Speaking of Danny Elfman-
Did anyone watch that new Dilbert cartoon? I missed it, but saw a
couple commercials for it, enough to recognize the music as being from
the film Forbidden Zone, made in the early '80's by Richard Elfman
(Danny's Brother). Danny did the music for Forbidden Zone-this was
back in the early days of Oingo Boingo. The music in the Dilbert
commercial was unmistakably from Forbidden Zone, so I have to wonder
if Mr. Elfman is repeating himself, or if the Dilbert people got
permission to use old music.

Forbidden Zone stars Herve Villachaise-Tattoo on the original Fantasy
Island tv show, and Susan Tyrell plays his wife (she was also in Big
Top Pee-Wee). There's also a brief appearance by the Kipper Kids, a
performance art duo, one of whom later married Bette Midler.

I feel like I'm playing a twisted version of Six Degrees of Kevin
Bacon here...How does this all tie in to XTC? Well...hmmm.. Oh
Yeah-Todd Rundgren wrote music for Pee-Wee's Playhouse, and Andy
Partridge worked with the Residents on the Commercial Album-one of
several guests on that record uncredited except for being noted as
"Special Secret Appearences-?" (by the way, does anyone know of any
others? The only one I know except for Andy is 80's New Wave diva Lene
Lovitch singing on one track).  Haven't figured a direct link between
XTC and Danny Elfman.

It frightens me how huch of our minds are occupied with trivial
information like this...



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Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:14:38 EST
Subject: Survey Results Corrections..

Sorry everyone, Had some problems with duplicates and such on my Survey
results pages.  I have made the corrections and you should find them correct
now.  If you've already visited the site, just go back again and be sure to
hit your "Refresh/Reload" button a couple of times to get the most current
run of the pages to your browser.


Message-Id: <v04003a02b2d913076f6c@[]>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 14:59:05 -0500
From: John McGann/Original Custom Transcription Service
Subject: Re: Joe Pass, minidisc, and AV1

Pete <> said:

>1. Someone mentioned that Dave G is a big fan of Joe Pass. (OK there's my
>XTC content). Can anyone familiar with Joe Pass recommend some of albums
>of his to start with? I've been into 'non-guitar' jazz lately and want
>to check out some of the great guitarists. Ditto for Django? (hey there's
>a band name...)

Heya Pete, that was me...He did a few solo albums "Virtuoso" and "Virtuso
#2" that I like; also one (at least) with Ella (how can you go wrong?). I
find him a bit predictable after awhile, but an excellent player anyway.

Django never recorded a bad track, and there are dozens of sessions out
there. Try finding the Rome sessions from 1949; he had been playing
electric for a few years but went back to acoustic, some fantastic playing
(particulary After You've Gone, my all time favorite of his). Another good
bet is the mid-30's sessions with Grapelli (especially Honeysuckle Rose, a
hilarious, excellent piece of fearless guitar improvisation).

Can't let a jazz guitar discussion go by without mentioning Wes Montgomery
(get "Full House" with Miles' rhythm section+ Johnny Griffin), Tal Farlow
(a good Verve collection is out on CD) and Charlie Christian (one of the
very 1st electric guitarists, died in 1942 at the age of 23, recorded with
Benny Goodman Sextet, a huge influence on later jazz players).

Pat Flaherty: your email address didn't work, write me back, eh!


John McGann (jmcgann @ PO Box 688 Jamaica Plain, Ma.
02130-0006 USA


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 30 Jan 1999 11:37:19 -0800
From: KenL <>
Subject: Slowhills etc.

Hey folks,

What's up with Chalkhills?  The posts have been two to three days behind
lately.   I had to wait half a week to get blasted for my sarcastic Rush
Limbaugh comments.

"(Amanda titters and shakes her head.) My dear boy, potshots don't work
on Chalkhills other than to make you look like a dweeb."

A "dweeb"?  That's it?  I got off easy there.  Probably because Amanda
knew that I was JOKING.  Unlike our next contestant...

"Oh boy, this is going way too far.  I'm not a fan of Rush, but I really

don't think he's a racist.  My dad listens to him, but he isn't a member

of the KKK, so I'd better watch it if I were you. Not all Rush Limbaugh
fans are racists.  Don't generalize like that.  I hate people who
generalize things."

Was that a threat?  Really Molly!  It was a JOKE.  I don't know how more
obvious I could have been.  I wasn't "generalizing".  I was making a
wise ass comment which I don't feel like wasting time explaining any
further.  Sorry that you missed the point.  And how you translated that
into an insult against your father is way beyond me.  Unless it's that
old SAT logic.  If A makes fun of C, and B likes C, then A is making fun
of B or something like that.  My dad thinks Don Imus is funny, but if
someone bagged on Imus, I wouldn't get all upset at them.  And believe
me, Don Imus deserves to get bagged on.

I am weary of all this vitriol.  From now on I will only say nice things
I think...Nice things about nothing but XTC.  Like that "Holly up on
Poppy" song.  That's a NICE song.  I like it.  It's about a cute girl
who rides on a NEAT wooden horse.  I love HORSES.  Animals are our
friends.  I love everything in the whole world!

All I care about is love,

who writes this on Saturday knowing you all probably won't see it till
Tuesday.(I'm just kidding Mr. Relph...honest!  Now John's Dad's going to
want to kick my ass.)

in the cd changer:Chicago:soundtrack
                           Talking Heads:Sand in the Vaseline (disc 1)
                           Ramones:Pleasant Dreams
                           Beatles:Sgt. Pepper's...
                           Devo-New traditionalists


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