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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 58

                Wednesday, 13 January 1999

Today's Topics:

                      Ol man Kimball
                      Elvis on AMA's
          Interview magazine review of AV Vol.1
         Hey TVT! Send AV Vol. 1 to this station!
                     AV Vol2 and Dave
                     Limbaugh Defense
                   Drums & Wires Review
                         Sphagnum
                     Amanda to Molly
               The unreleased (a challenge)
                         CD vs LP
                      Ones and zeros
            Re: The Tyranny of the Well-to-do
         The Natural Life Cycle Of Mailing Lists
  Trouble with wav file / Dukes sampled / Cooking What ?
                        AV Teaser
                  My impressions so far
                     Re: Suss Macaque
                   Re: The anti-Duncan
                          Oh no!
                     Hooray for 1999
                     Dear God chords
                    Gioco Complicato?
                       Jules Verne
                   Just One More Thing

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From: WillJ4comm@aol.com
Message-ID: <5136df01.369ba385@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:33:25 EST
Subject: Ol man Kimball

Re: Old man Kimball's rants about 78s, Edison Cylinders, et al.:

Genius. I was laughing for so long as I read it again and again that I had
coworkers trying to figure out what I was reading...

Thank you from a grateful whippersnapper, Will

--Buy domestic XTC AV1, help the band chart!--

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From: WillJ4comm@aol.com
Message-ID: <8fe26a80.369ba38a@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:33:30 EST
Subject: Elvis on AMA's

Elvis Costello had a fantastic performance on the American Music Awards last
night, blew everyone else out of the water and made most of the performers
look like stuffed animals with microphones. And for the first time in a long
time, he looked like he was loving every minute, even took a big, smiling bow
at the end with his arm around Burt. I haven't bought 3 of his last 4 albums,
but after seeing that performance, I think I'll be picking up "Painted from
Memory." Great material, and his voice has never sounded better.

XTC content: his hair resembled Andy's close crop! YES!

Will

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From: WillJ4comm@aol.com
Message-ID: <18318d81.369ba37a@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:33:14 EST
Subject: Interview magazine review of AV Vol.1

A friend and fellow xtc fan just read this to me... from the February issue of
Interview Magazine:

"Apple Venus, Volume I/XTC - Pigeonholing the skewed composing genius of
stage-shy XTC maestro Andy Partridge is a bit like riding the Tilt-O-Whirl
with a drunken, sadistic carney at full throttle. Spin one of his discs --
especially this new accoustic/orchestral experiment, and prepare yourself
for some heady vertigo. Two decades on, Partridge's voice is still lovably
loopy and acrobatic, his hooks still astoundingly oblique and original. His
approach is epitomized in the opening track, which combines tip-toed
symphonics, puncy brass exclamations, and nutty-professor observations such
as, "the grass is always greener when it bursts up through the concrete." A
must-hear for non- fans and fans alike."

[Typed on the fly and reposted here without permission from the magazine, so
please excuse any typos - see magazine for official version].

Good gravy, it's gonna be great!

Will

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From: WillJ4comm@aol.com
Message-ID: <e1204580.369ba37f@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 14:33:19 EST
Subject: Hey TVT! Send AV Vol. 1 to this station!

Attention TVT, be sure to send a promo copy of Apple Venus to KCRW radio in
Santa Monica, California if you haven't already. They broke Beck and many
others, and the audience will likely be very interested in the disc, and
many listeners (such as myself) are already fans. The folks at TVT probably
already know this, just want to make sure.

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Message-Id: <199901122024.VAA21433@online.no>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:30:10 +0100
From: karl Ovre <karloe@online.no>
Subject: AV Vol2 and Dave

A great hello to all of you in CiTy X!

Many people have been woried about Apple vol 2 without dave. Andy p. said
some time ago that Dave did get to lay down a good deal of guitar tracks on
those songs before he left, so there's no reason to worry until the album
after that.

A Couple of bits from Little Norway.

There is a new Music web site here named Puls,(This used to be Norway's
bigest music paper)
so i thought i'd write them a little note on what's happening with XTC. I
got a mail back from the designer of the page telling me: Sorry, wrong mail
address Here is the right one but I enjoyed your mail greatly. He was a
HUGE fan and didn't know what they were doing these days.

I'm really surprised  how many people actually like XTC but have more or
less forgotten them(7years, sighh). Now! go out there and spread the
news,they need all the sales they can get.(PS! Got to the right people at
last and they promised to write about it)

Also there was a huge realise list in every big papers here last wheek. One
paper said that "Apple Venus" is due in Jan, one said Feb. and the third
said Mars,(Does nobody know for sure?) but the bigest paper over here
completly forgot the whole album and got a flaming note from yours truely.
They even wrote back and promised a big article on the band
shortly.(Sometimes anger helps)

On another note, has anybody been to "morning becomes eclectic,kcrw" on
http://www.liveconcerts.com/
it would be a great place to hear XTC, each show last about 1 - 1 1/2 hour
including live accustic and talking with the bands.

Can't wait for Apple Venus
Bye for now!
Karl

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Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19990112155312.3507baba@pop.mindspring.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 15:53:12
From: marystephens <markdrake@mindspring.com>
Subject: Limbaugh Defense

Howdy Chalktalkers from the Biblebelly! -

First of all I would like to thank Dominic Lawson, Amanda Owens, and Chris
for coming to my defense in my absence on the (sore?) subject of Rush
Limbaugh. I - BY NO MEANS - wanted to try to introduce a political
discussion on this page. I was just trying to bring attention to the fact
that a LOT of people were able to hear a "little" sampling of our favorite
band.I also hope that James McGowan isn't having another panic attack from
learning that I'm not by myself on this list (of Limbaugh listeners).

When you think about it, Limbaugh shares a trait with XTC as far as
listenership is concerned - you either really LOVE him/them, or you really
HATE him/them. I've not ran into many people that are absolutely lukewarm
on either of the two.

But that is what is great about this list. No matter what your
political/religious/sexual affiliation is - we all love XTC. And that is
really what my original post was about - a LOT of people heard "Generals
and Majors".

So don't lose your cool James, everythings gonna be alright. I'm your
friend no matter what talkshow host happens to be on my work radio.

Happy MLK day,

Mark Drake

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From: Matt_Kaden/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Message-ID: <852566F7.00754A63.00@mta2.lotus.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 16:13:30 -0500
Subject: Drums & Wires Review

XTC
Drums & Wires

They did it! They changed members and kept the same name like no one will
notice. It is a different band; their sound has changed
completely. Keyboardist Barry Andrews was swapped for Guitarist Dave
Gregory. Now: the sound of clashing changs and chongs, more tones and
textures from the guitars... Now we have an album full of songs founded with
extraordinary vision and sculpted with musical expertise. The nuances
lurking inside are countless. This band plays with more force although
notably slower and more controlled than the previous band. Their barbed wit
is still intact and so is their sharp sense of the edge. The edge of
accessibility, the edge of the scalpel which peruses the brain once the
needle is dropped, the edge of the groove which is characteristically
jagged. Mr.  Partridge has now created a significant external other which
lives and breathes whenever someone spins an XTC record - this 'other'
consumes each song [you can hear him clawing and crunching away as the song
plays] - and this makes it all sort of scary... This is without question the
greatest album of the decade.

********** 10 stars out of 5

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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 17:47:55 -0700
Message-ID: <00060BEA.1586@wcc.com>
From: DBMEIER0@urscorp.com
Subject: Sphagnum

     Cool word, sphagnum.

     My take on the Daveless Effect:

     Mid 80s, DG was my favorite cog in the triangular xtc wheel.  There
     will be a difference without him.

     I'm not as concerned with the fate of the sound as some seem to be.
     One of the many perceptions that I have developed regarding AP over
     the years is that he is much like a child in his ability to sponge up
     info, style, what have you.  Having listened to the Apple Venus Demos
     (hey, we have a name for those wonderful collections of tunes now!) I
     come away with the overwhelming impression that AP has absorbed
     shitloads of Dave during the past 20 years, in his arranging as well
     as guitar work.

     Not to say that Andy's style is anybody's but his own.  His recent
     guitar work with Yazbek (as well as on the above mentioned demos) is
     chalk full of Davish twiddlys, but with a distinct Partridgeon skew.

     Remember folks, we've been spoiled rotten since '79 by having two of
     the greatest guitarists and one of the best four-stringers of this
     particular epoch of PoP.  Two of those three also happen to be several
     of Earth's radii above the field when it comes to writing songs. This
     is why the xtc music factory HAS NO PEER (usual acronyms apply).

     I don't doubt that we'll hear plenty from Dave Gregory.  I've heard
     rumor that he's putting together a band that will record nothing but
     segue music for conservative radio talk shows.  I believe one of the
     band names being bandied about is the Amandatones. ;)

     Appreciate the ears (eyes),

     Dan

     post sphagnum:

     Mark S: My TVT version of TB is exactly as you described yours to be.

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From: Jdmack01@aol.com
Message-ID: <21fdb739.369c183c@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:51:24 EST
Subject: Amanda to Molly

Amanda wrote to Molly:

<<Oh dear. You're setting yourself up. I'm going to give you some advice
it took me a long time to start following: choose your words carefully
on Chalkhills, or your butt will be flamed so bad you'll have to find a
new way to take a shit. (No offense meant, take it from the voice of
experience.)>>

Does the word "foreigner" ring a bell (hee hee hee)?

J. D. Mack
(who has watched the maturation of Amanda with detached amusement over the
years)

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From: Jdmack01@aol.com
Message-ID: <d18617c6.369c214c@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 23:30:04 EST
Subject: The unreleased (a challenge)

To Those Who Take Care Of These Things,

Note: I searched the Chalkhills website and did not find this information
neatly pulled together in one place.  Please forgive me if I just didn't
look hard enough.

I have this beautiful fantasy that one day, Virgin will release an XTC album
similar to The Beatles Anthology.  After reading Twomey's and Farmer's
books, and the "Aware Paints XTC" article, I have come up with a list of
unreleased XTC songs that would make up this album.  For this list, songs
marked with a * are ones I've never heard, so I'm hoping someone can confirm
or deny the existence of these tracks.

"White Music" outtakes:

Let's Have Fun
Fireball XL5
Fireball XL 5 Dub
Heatwave (Leckie version)
Refrigeration Blues (unfinished) *

Go2 Outtakes:

Are You Receiving Me (Leckie version) *
Strange Tales, Strange Tales (with Barry's keyboards)
Sargasso Bar
Us Being Us
Things Fall To Bits (imho - these three Barry songs are all better than the
two chosen for the album)

Drums And Wires Outtakes:

Cheap Perfume
Beautiful People *
Someone's Been In My Room *
I Feel Blue *

Black Sea Outtakes:

Towers Of London (slower version)
Living Through Another Cuba (different version, perhaps Spy In Space?) *
Let's Ban The Bomb*
Looking For Footprints (different version)
I Overheard
Officer Blue (with sped-up vocal)

Mummer Outtakes:

Spare A Penny (2 versions)
Young Cleopatra

Skylarking Outtakes:

Let's Make A Den (unfinished) *

Oranges & Lemons Outtakes

My Train Is Coming (unfinished, with Mike Keneally on rhythm guitar) *

Also unreleased - the complete Liverpool Eric's Club concert from which
"Traffic Light Rock" was taken for the Record Mirror giveaway 7 inch, the
complete Hope And Anchor Festival concert, and the complete Marconi Club
concert from which several b-sides were taken.

Now it's your turn.  What have I left out?  What outtakes do you know that
were recorded during the various album sessions, and of these, which can you
confirm having heard?  Please DO NOT include demos in your list (I have my
fingers SERIOUSLY crossed that Andy follows through on his plan to release a
box set of all of his demos).  Perhaps Mr. Relph could post this definitive
list somewhere on the Chalkhills page.  Perhaps my fantasy XTC Anthology
will become a reality someday (if only because those bootlegs sound SO
terrible).

Thank you, and goodnight,

J.D. Mack

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Message-ID: <19990113050725.26244.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "Duncan Kimball" <dunks58@hotmail.com>
Subject: CD vs LP
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 21:07:25 PST

Rather than battering Chalkhillers with another lengthy post, I will
respond to Per Aronsson's comments about the relative merits of CDs and
LPs as follows:

In brief ... BOLLOCKS!!

For a fuller exposition of the reasoning behined this view, please visit
my argument page, such as it is, at :

http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palladium/5812/cd_lp.htm

I don't want to tie up the list any further with this contentious
thread, but feel free to address comments directly to me. You know where
to find me.

BTW - I didn't mean Molly Meldrum was a hero per se - I just think
anyone who has the good taste to give the tedious Billy Joel a punch in
the nose deserves *some* accolades. As for Sinatra ... well I did say
"IMHO", but I still reckon he's dull as dishwater.

Cheers to all
Dunks

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Message-ID: <19990113065818.19099.rocketmail@web311.yahoomail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1999 22:58:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Brent Palmer <brent_palmer@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Ones and zeros

Fellow Chalkhillians,

Whilst countless albums have been near-mutilated through the
ubiquitous CD medium, it's not necessarily the format that's inferior
in itself.  When you consider that the music's been fragmented into a
bunch of zeros and ones, the compact disc does manage to compete quite
well with the beloved "liquorice pizza".  And it's an ideal format for
more precision-oriented music, e.g classical.
     However, whilst (at least in my opinion) CD and vinyl are
approximately equal in quality, they markedly differ in
characteristics - either has a different "personality", you could say.
 And vinyl has a personality that no digital medium could _ever_ hope
to replicate.
     Maybe it's just psychological, knowing that a squiggly spiral cut
in a piece of PVC can sound so _good_, but there is something about LP
records which is undeniably intriguing.
     Another thing which needs to be said is it's a crying shame that
the masses swallowed the hype promising "pure, perfect sound, forever"
- when what we've been given instead is sorely-compromised editions of
classic albums, so riddled with defects in sound (and packaging) that
they are not much more than leagalized pirate copies (at least the
performers do get royalties...).  And meanwhile, the analogue format
gets relegated to niche status, dismissed as the reserve of nostalgia
buffs!
     Anyway, to conclude this matter, let me say that albums from the
vinyl era are best left on "black gold".

Brent
Brisbane, Queensland, Australia
Email: brent_palmer@yahoo.com.au

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Message-Id: <199901130806.AAA08189@law-f126.hotmail.com>
From: "Molly Fanton" <mollyfa@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: The Tyranny of the Well-to-do
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 00:06:34 PST

Chalkers,
Jason said:
<<And molly if it really bugs you that you can't afford the
Japnese pressing i'm sure you can scrape up an extra 15 bucks if you
really want to.  i know that's what'll do if Apple Venus has some bonus
track that i just can't find elsewhere.>>

I hate people like you who say things like that.  I wish I could do
that, but I have bills to pay.  I'm not a millionaire, like some of you
think you are.  I just don't really understand how can anybody afford
things with bills and stuff like that.  Or are most of you people that
life at home with their parents and don't have to bother with bills.  I
understand this is a forum for people to talk about XTC, but do you
really have to remind us who can't afford things like the different
versions of AV?  I'm really getting sick of it.  I joined this list to
talk about XTC, and not to bost about what version of AV I got or how
many copies of TB I bought.  I mainly came to talk about the band, and
how I appreciate it.  But this is my own opinion, and I like you guys
have every right to voice it.
That's all for now.

Molly

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Message-ID: <19990113103836.1619.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "Catherine Piazolla" <notangos@hotmail.com>
Subject: The Natural Life Cycle Of Mailing Lists
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 02:38:34 PST

FWD:
The Natural Life Cycle Of Mailing Lists

Kat Nagel (KatNagel@eznet.net) sent this terrific piece to the EARLY-M
mailing list in December 1994. It is the best description of the social
development of a mailing list I've read.

Every list seems to go through the same cycle:

1.Initial enthusiasm (people introduce themselves, and gush a lot about how
  wonderful it is to find kindred souls).

2.Evangelism (people moan about how few folks are posting to the list, and
  brainstorm recruitment strategies).

3.Growth (more and more people join, more and more lengthy threads develop,
  occasional off-topic threads pop up).

4.Community (lots of threads, some more relevant than others; lots of
  information and advice is exchanged; experts help other experts as well as
  less experienced colleagues; friendships develop; people tease each other;
  newcomers are welcomed with generosity and patience; everyone -- newbie
  and expert alike -- feels comfortable asking questions, suggesting
  answers, and sharing opinions).

5.Discomfort with diversity (the number of messages increases dramatically;
  not every thread is fascinating to every reader; people start complaining
  about the signal-to-noise ratio; person 1 threatens to quit if *other*
  people don't limit discussion to person 1's pet topic; person 2 agrees
  with person 1; person 3 tells 1 & 2 to lighten up; more bandwidth is
  wasted complaining about off-topic threads than is used for the threads
  themselves; everyone gets annoyed).

6.Finally:

  1.Smug complacency and stagnation

    (the purists flame everyone who asks an 'old' question or responds with
    humor to a serious post; newbies are rebuffed; traffic drops to a
    doze-producing level of a few minor issues; all interesting discussions
    happen by private email and are limited to a few participants; the
    purists spend lots of time self-righteously congratulating each other on
    keeping off-topic threads off the list).

    OR

    2.Maturity

    (a few people quit in a huff; the rest of the participants stay near
    stage 4, with stage 5 popping up briefly every few weeks; many people
    wear out their second or third 'delete' key, but the list lives
    contentedly ever after).

Catherine

XTC mood of the day: smug

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From: "Lemoncurry" <dieling@hrz1.uni-oldenburg.de>
Organization: University Of Oldenburg Comp.Center
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 13:25:53 MET-1METDST
Subject: Trouble with wav file / Dukes sampled / Cooking What ?
Message-ID: <34A1331DB9@hrz1.uni-oldenburg.de>

Hi everyone !

Well, what I wanted to write was:

"Hey there, sampled a Dukes of Stratosphere bit (from "Jackie", the
sound I decoded in a digest a few weeks past) in a track called "You
Know What Good Is" I made which is TOTALLY BRILLIANT so you better go
to my homepage at www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/9259 and listen to it
and see if you find the Dukes bit !"
But, shame on me, I'm not the ultimate computer wiz kid, so I don't
know how to get the track converted to a .wav file. I have it on an
Audio CD and it's there as a .cda file, which is okay for the WinAmp
player, but not for the Geocities Upload Program. Or should I bring
it into MP3 format, to be up to date ? How do I do that ? Any help is
welcome and will be rewarded with the wav file sent personally to
him,  so you don't have to wait hours watching the Geocities server
break down (he likes doing that !).
Please, I need your help.

"I c u " - Greetingz to David Oh (my, where's that s again ?)

One word to Apple Venus:
How come a label called Cooking Vinyl doesn't release an album which
is supposedly of such an aural complexity on vinyl ?
I mean, it's not for the money, is it ? IMHO, I know bands who don't
even have a proper label and they release their stuff on vinyl, and
not on CD's.
You know, I'm not one of these Hi Enders, and different to
Robert Wood in digest 5-56 I do not find listening to CD's a "pretty
grim experience", I mean, that depends more on the music that is
played, and on the production conditions. So, I do find musical
satisfaction in listening to CD's, and I'm not using them only as
background while doing the washing up, although doing the washing up
without music is rather boring and doing it with the latest Refused
album on at high volume is a pretty cool thing to do.
But I wanted Apple Venus on CD and on Vinyl, not because I'm an
excessive XTC collector, but as I like Vinyl, the big sleeves, the
smell, the possibility of working with it while DJing, which you can
do with CD's but it's simply not as good.
But, then, maybe it becomes a No. 1 album and is re-released on vinyl
later. (Yeah boy, dream on !)
Still, happy XTC found new label, although they should change their
name to Cooking Silicium.
    Thatz all for now, BYE!
(hehe,  ^ zed woz kul ! )
Lemoncurry
residing in The Lemon Lounge
at www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/9259
lemoncurry@geocities.com
XTC Song of the Day:
You're The Wish You Are I Had

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From: sfrankli@ECHG.ORG.UK
Message-ID: <802566F8.004301A1.00@Inet.echg.org.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:51:53 +0100
Subject: AV Teaser

Just a quick note to make the wait until Feb 17th a little
longer.......................I have heard it !!!!!!!
To cut a long story short,  friend of mine called at Andy Partridges house
and came away with an advance copy of Apple Venus (no sleeve notes, just
the running order). Noel then promptly gave me a copy. I must say that on
first listen I was slightly disappointed, perhaps because I have been used
to hearing some of the songs on demo and have got used to the slightly
'warm' quality. Highlights though are a stunning Dictionary, Green Man ,I'd
like that  (Some naff lyrics but very Skylarking)  and best of all If I
cant own her. This particular track has haunted me ever since the first
play and shows off Andy's Wiltshire drawl at its best a la Wrapped in grey.
I am quite pleased to feel a little disappointed at the remaining tracks as
I will have to work at these and in the past I usually end up liking these
tracks more than the instantly likeable ones.
This posting is not intended to come across as being smug, but where else
could I share my excitement !  Also I am changing jobs in 2 weeks and will
not have access to e mail and chalkhills  when Apple Venus is finally
released, so I will miss all the reaction to it.
Keep up the good work of communicating with each other and I look forward
to re subscribing to chalkhills when I get one of these machines at home
when I can talk about the impending release of Apple Venus 3

Steve Franklin, Bristol.

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Message-ID: <369CA424.F3D55575@post.bsnet.com.br>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 11:48:21 -0200
From: "Alexandre de Alcbntara Ferraz" <alexandre.ferraz@lead.bsnet.com.br>
Subject: My impressions so far

Hi Chalkies,

May I please give my impressions so far on Chalkhills Digest as a new
subscriber :
The worst of it is, definitely, trying to figure out the David Oh posts.

The best of it is the chance to talk to other XTC fans, since I don't
know any in the place where I live. Actually, that makes me feel like
trying to get other people into XTC. Boy, listening to their music is a
truly
unbelievable experience !!

Rogerio
Brazil

PS: The idea of Keneally joining XTC sounds great to me, too. But I
think
that a guest apperance is more likely to happen...

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Message-Id: <s69c9571.074@parliament.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 12:44:39 +0000
From: Dominic Lawson <LAWSOND@parliament.uk>
Subject: Re: Suss Macaque

>>>What, no Minutemen, Mission of Burma, Cramps,
Husker Du, Butthole Surfers, etc etc?  Not an
American band in your list.  The 80s had plenty
of great music, not just the new wave bands that
got the airplay (esp. in Britain -- we got very
little of it here, except for the crap like
Kajagoogoo).

Well yes, we could all make lists of our favourite bands from the 80s, but
that wasn't what I was saying. Firstly I was talking about the current
"revival" which centres entirely on chart bands, so no Buttholes there for
starters (except in the euphemistic sense). Secondly, I was talking about
the UK, where the 80s never really ended. Actually, judging by MTV (easily
the worst thing to happen to music EVER) the 80s are still going on in
America too. Hope you're enjoying them. Anyway, I was making a comparison
between the stuff that people seem to want to remember and celebrate
(i.e. Duran, Spandau bleedin' Ballet, Kajapoopoo etc) and the stuff that was
equally as popular at the time (IN THIS COUNTRY!!!), but which everyone has
conveniently forgotten (XTC, Smiths, Bunnymen, Jam etc). I put this down to
the hideous world of "post-modernity" where only really crap things are
considered good in retrospect because it's, duh, kinda ironic'n'that.  Is it
shite. Crap is crap and the pong might fade, but you still wouldn't want it
on your toast. But yes, squire, your point would have been an excellent one
otherwise. Gang Of Four, Cardiacs, Buttholes, Fugazi, Dead Kennedys, Big
Black, Rapeman, Sonic Youth, Deep Freeze Mice, Bog Shed, Stump, Cramps,
Monochrome Set, That Petrol Emotion, My Bloody Valentine.......the list is
endless. All great stuff, and sorely underrated with it, but not strictly
related to the point I was making. There was certainly no anti-American
sentiment intended, even though I do hold you all personally responsible for
that awful tart who sings on Ally McBeal. If anyone wants to club together
to have her killed, let me know. Oh, and by the way, does anyone else like
Haircut 100? I gather there's one or two Heywardites out there...(oh, and
what about JoBoxers - or is that a tad too desperate?)

>>>Yes, all conservatives hate their fellow man and
kill children.  Very astute of you.

Thanks. I thought so.

>>>exercize away, i use that key 2 sumtimez. actually, quite a lot...
sorry i missed the 'dear god' d'bait, i wooda luv'd 2 have annoyed people
on that subject...

Oh shut up, you boring tit. It's not what you say that people object to
(although it's worth pointing out that self-deprecation only works if people
don't already think you're a twat), it's the fact that you write like an 80s
poodle-rock band. I bet you've got loads of Tigertailz albums at
home. Crayzey! Maybe you should write to Kerrang and ask for a job.

XTC CONTENT.....XTC CONTENT.....XTC CONTENT.....XTC CONTENT....

It is a very small world. Last night I was chatting to a guy called Jason (a
friend of "the guy upstairs") who hails from Swindon (accent very much
intact and scarily reminiscent of our boys) and he spotted my copy of White
Music (which I was using as a mouse mat - yes, I know, sacrilege!). He
mentioned that his dad used to play in a band with someone from XTC -
Stadium Dogs or something similar - and that he was pals with most of the
band. Jesus H Osbourne! Of course, this might be cobblers, but if anyone is
aware of the name Cousins in relation to the early years of XTC, then please
enlighten me, sharpish! It definitely rings a bell, but then I might just be
thinking of that ice-skating bloke (Robin Cousins? Hmmmm, not really my
sport...).

Here's hoping Tyson gets his face punched off. Yes, I know, fat chance....
Salut!

Dom.

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Message-Id: <199901131433.JAA32305@hammurabi.nh.ultra.net>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 09:30:39 -0500
Subject: Re: The anti-Duncan
From: "Duncan Watt" <kanuba@nh.ultranet.com>

>From Amanda "Mom" Owens:
>>>From Duncan:
>>>Sinatra did, does and will always just totally, completely SUCK ASS. Flame
>>>away, kiddies.
>>>IMHO he bites - bigtime.
>>
>>Ditto Duncan.
>>
>>The only person that's as overly worshipped as Sinatra is the much overated
>>Elvis Pres.
>
>Never speak ill of the dead, my dear.

Just writing to point out there are Two Duncans on the list now, and I'm the
one who digs Sinatra, baby! I mean, sure, the guy self-destructed right in
front of us, but isn't that what you want *your* stars to do? The ultimate
in cool...

In fact, that could be the solution for XTC, get CM to steal Charlize Theron
from that guy from Third Eye Blind, then, what, maybe crash his Porsche
through the Hollywood sign or something... hey, it would get 'em on 'E!'...

Nothing against the Other Duncan's tastes, of course. I'm guessing you
haven't had the full Rat Pack experience. And I don't mean some "Swingers"
how-many-Manhattans-have-you-had McVegas fake, either. You're *supposed* to
hate the guy... like you hate The Devil...

Duncan Watt

ps I like Elvis, too. Ask me why, go on...

pee-pee s Yeah, Ben, I thought the new Sheryl Crow song *was* Aimee
Mann...but they each used Jon Brion at one time, maybe that's it. He's an
XTC fan, I'd bet, from his work...

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Message-ID: <19990113151903.7097.rocketmail@send204.yahoomail.com>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 07:19:03 -0800 (PST)
From: pancho artecona <partecona@yahoo.com>
Subject: Oh no!

Hey all, just a little comment

"PS message to David Oh: Dude please find the "s" key and stop using
the"z"
key.  The content of your post sounds intelligent, but with the bad
punctuation and grammar, you come across like a 15-yr-old hacker.
Justathought"

I think David Oh is really Prince in disguise. I wasn't going to say
anyghint but since it came up.
2close not 2b.

Just finished the Neville book and really liked it. I loved the final
chapters where he waxes poetic about the band, really well done, and
yet makes me miss Daves input all the more. I really love the image of
Andy dancing around his shed after coming across a great lick or tune.
Oh to be blessed with such creativity! Sadly, I am not so I have to
find other ways to make a living. Every once in a blue moon, however,
I do come up with a ditty or two that keeps me interested so all is
not lost. I guess we can't all be creative geniuses.

Pancho PRXTCFAN

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From: dapardue@statestreet.com
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 10:52:17 -0500
Message-Id: <H00005310f2ebd0a@MHS>
Subject: Hooray for 1999

     I think I last posted to this esteemed list exactly a year ago, to say
     how great a year 1998 was going to be in terms of new music - new XTC
     albums, etc.  WELL, as it turned out, I got a new Liz Phair, and maybe
     a couple other things I was sort-of dying for, but now its 1999 and
     I'm still waiting for a lot of things to come out -- Peter Gabriel,
     where are ye?

     Does anybody else miss the day when musicians put out an album or more
     a year?  White Music and Go2 both came out in 1978 and no one thought
     twice when D&W followed them up on their heels in 1979.

     I can't think of another industry that seems to want to put out _less
     and less_ product every year.  In the classical music scene, the
     situation is dire.

     However, I will stake my confidence in 1999 on the basis of just two
     releases - Apple Venus in February, and Blur's "13" in March.  That's
     all I need to hold me over for a while.  Something tells me that AV2
     won't show up until 2000, despite everyone's best intentions, but I
     have Hope.  And Bo, if you want her back, it'll cost ya.

     Cheers,

     David.  (one of the many on the list)

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Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990113151559.00b71d80@staffpop.ee.surrey.ac.uk>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 15:15:59 +0000
From: Simon Saunders <S.Saunders@ee.surrey.ac.uk>
Subject: Dear God chords

Does anybody have the guitar chords to Dear God ?  Inspired to try
strumming it after listening again to Sarah Maclachlan's version.

thanks

Simon

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Message-Id: <199901132136.WAA20228@mail.knoware.nl>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:45:48 +0000
Subject: Gioco Complicato?

Dear Chalkers,

Recently Belinda asked:

>  Anyhow, does anyone know about this Italian book?
Si !

There are actually at least two Italian books about XTC.
But judging from your description you have seen the one called
"XTC: Testi Con Traduzione A Fronte" which i think means something
like "text and translation". Anyway, the larger part of this book has
 a number of XTC lyrics and their translations into Italian, but
certainly not all of their songs.

The ISBN number for this book is 88-85859-87-9 and it was published
in 1992 by Arcada Editrice in Milano, Italy.
I ordered my copy just a couple of years ago so i think it is still
"in print". Any bookstore can get it for you if you give them the
ISBN number. Good luck!

Anyway, it's quite funny to see those familiar XTC songtitles in
Italian.  Can you guess these? Uomini Spaventapasseri, Il Sindaco Di
Sempliciopoli and Gabbiani Gridano Baciala, Baciala!

yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse
 http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello/
     or http://come.to/xtc

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Message-Id: <199901132137.WAA20309@mail.knoware.nl>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:45:48 +0000
Subject: Jules Verne

Dear Chalkers,

Sean Fredrick asked:

> Did the original Jules Verne's Sketchbook come on a standard
> blank cassette? I just acquired a copy (#27) and was wondering
> if it was an original.
No, the original "official" production run comes on a grey plastic
cassette with tracklisting and copyright notice in black lettering.
It's a ferro tape with Dolby noise reduction. Also marked "LE-01 Made
in Canada"... If you want i can send you a JPG image of the
original item, email me privately

BTW: the other two fanclub tapes, Bull W.T.G.G. and Window Box, also
come on "custom" tapes and _not_ standard cassettes. Buyer beware...

yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse
 http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello/
     or http://come.to/xtc

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Message-Id: <199901132137.WAA20350@mail.knoware.nl>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1999 22:45:48 +0000
Subject: Just One More Thing

Dear Chalkers,

I know it's not nice to gloat but i  just had to share with you all
that the new album is absolutely amazingly totally brilliant.
Forget about the demos, the real thing will blow your mind.

Faves so far: River Of Orchids (what an opener!), Harvest Festival,
The Last Balloon, Colin's Frivolous Tonight (the obvious single IMHO)
and Fruit Nut. But the real piece de la resistance is Greenman,
formerly known as The Green Man. So bloody beautiful it almost made
me cry

yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse
 http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello/
     or http://come.to/xtc

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