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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 352

                 Monday, 27 December 1999

Today's Topics:

                   My Holiday Wish List
                     Re: Spike Jones
                        Tattoo You
                    music, but no XTC
      Re: But Christmas isn't for another fortnight
                     Re: Oscar Wilde
                       '99 Top Cd's
                    My 1999 Favorites
      Thanks for christmas... and the stereo, too...
                How 'bout them Endorphins!
                     I have returned
               Filipino XTC disc/McCartney
                   Interesting opinion
                    Riddle of the Ages
                        Re: Spiked


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Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 05:47:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Susperia Five <>
Subject: My Holiday Wish List

Howdy Chalkies

DeLurking to share my ultimate Holiday Wish List ~

1)  Andy and Colin would decide to play some gigs and
come to the South.

2)  Barry Andrews would burst from obscurity to amaze
and terrify us all!

3)  I could locate and record all of the XTC and
Shriekback videos I've yet to capture.

See?  I don't ask for much.

Happy Holidays everyone!


The value of anything is how much it hurts ~~ Shriekback


Message-Id: <v04210101b48893cc15fc@[]>
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 11:24:25 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Re: Spike Jones

   Regarding Harrison's very astute Spike Jones missive, I always
insist on giving Spike's "All I Want For Christmas Is My Two Front
Teeth" ample playing room on the the stereo every Chrithmath. I also
have his Christmas album, which is half nasal and clanking novelty
songs that Spike does so well and about half serious close harmony
stuff, some of it beautiful("Silent Night" and some of it a little
syrupy. If nothing else, the album does legintimise him to layfolk as
a serious musician who happens to have a wicked sense of humor and
uses it most of the time. I have another album of his, an Italian
best-of called around The World With Spike Jones which collects some
of his best stuff in a trip around the world theme. The Middle
Eastern one is priceless. I'm glad I own the album, I should have
remembered to ask my Dad for a more comprhensive CD of his for
Christmas. Damn..and I just got off the phone with him too.

Christopher R. Coolidge

Homepage at

"A Great law protects me from the government. The Bill of rights has
10 GREAT laws.  A Good law protects me from you.  Laws against murder,
theft, assault and the like are good laws.  A Poor law attempts to
protect me from myself."  - Unknown


From: "Mark Strijbos" <>
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 19:12:01 +0100
Subject: Tattoo You
Message-Id: <>

Dear Chalkers,

> does anyone else have an xtc related tattoo?
Yep, i've got the English Settlement style logo on my left arm, right
beneath the shoulder.

I had it done in 1983, before tattoos were fashionable, because that
album changed my life. I _knew_ this was the band i would spend
the rest of my life with and i already knew that i wanted a unique
tattoo. I figured nobody in the world would (a) have the sense to like
XTC and (b) be stupid enough to get a tattoo. I mean, it is not a band
you'd normally associate with tattoos, now is it?

Or is it? ( cue spooky Theremin music )

a leather-clad, bare-chested Dave, sitting on a Harley Davidson
chopper with several tattoed "biker chicks" hanging around his neck
while he plays Yacht Dance on the acoustic that is suggestively
straddled between his legs

[the image fades away...]

Oops! Sorry, my imagination runs a little wild sometimes... further
proof that marijuana is bad, bad, BAD! It will ruin your short term
memory and... and... damn! i keep forgetting those other reasons.

BTW: The White Horse image will be my next, and probably last,
tattoo. Perhaps i'll get it next week just to have something real to
celebrate ;)

yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse


Message-ID: <>
From: "Megan Heller" <>
Subject: music, but no XTC
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 18:14:10 CST

David Seddon succumbs to the decade listing bug--
>Very - The Pet Shop Boys - Ditto, and the cover of Go West is lush and
>uplifting.  Biting social comment if you listen to the words.

yum!  yes, I love this album (and fantastic packaging-- you can always spot
it on a cd shelf!)-- I think I may have to add this to my Christmas Eve
listening list...

Ben Gott cheers another excellent album--
>I bought Belle & Sebastien's "Tigermilk."  Damn, these songs are so
>light, you could push 'em over with a feather...and whomever is >singing
>lead ("Sebastien," I'd imagine) sounds like Nick Drake risen >from the
>dead.  Spooky.

I can't stop listening to this cd.  The singer is Stuart Murdoch, who
normally shies the public eye but has recently come out in support of the
Scottish Socialist Party.  I love his voice, and his marvelous songwriting.
I can see the Drake resemblance, although, to me, the most Drake-ian
recording I've heard in the past few years is Beck's "Mutations" (not the
whole thing, style-wise, and maybe just more what I think Nick Drake would
be doing if he were around today).

btw, sorry if my millennial post in the last digest was a bit incoherent...
I finally slept and am feeling a great deal better.

megan (of the preemptive apologies).


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 18:11:35 -0800 (PST)
From: Tyler Hewitt <>
Subject: boys/men

Seb wrote:
Now repeat after me, "'BOYS' is a very common synonym
for 'MEN'". I wrote "boys". It implied "men", not for
the least reason that, as a number of people have
helpfully pointed out, ummm let's see now, oh yeah
it's *illegal*.

I for one understood. I think that using 'boys' for
'men' is commom in the gay commumity, maybe not so
much anywhere else.

Happy Holidays everyone!


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 00:32:24 +0000
From: Brian <>
Subject: Re: But Christmas isn't for another fortnight


>Brian continues his side in a debate which is perhaps more fruitless than
the whole drug thing--<

Sorry, Megan, but I was "continuing" nothing on my side. My 'schillenium
bullshit' commentary was the first thing I posted about this subject.
Your response now rates lower than it might had you not made this

>my god but I am so sick of the millennium hype and arguments and
everything else (I'm not commenting on anyone on the list; I mean this
about everywhere).<

Well, I'm sick of the dumb attitude about when the millenium starts.
1 + 1 does not equal 3 because a bunch of bandwagon jumpers want it to.

>with the mentioning of all the different calendars, I'm surprised there's
been no mention of the Julian calendar.<

We don't operate on the Julian calendar, so we can stop this discussion
right now.

-Brian Matthews


Message-Id: <v04210101b4895fa5fcfb@[]>
Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 22:53:20 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Re: Oscar Wilde

At 5:35 PM -0800 12/23/99, megan wrote:
>whoa!  while I agree with your sentiments, I'm afraid you have your facts
>wrong.  Laws against sodomy and the lesser charge of "gross indecency"
>(basically homosexual sex which could not be proven) were *indeed* in place
>in Victorian England.  Our man Oscar Wilde was put in Reading Gaol for two
>years at hard labor for his antics with male prostitutes (he was one charged
>with gross indecency-- see any of the books on the trials of Oscar Wilde, or
>the Moises Kaufman Brechtian interpretation of the trials, "Gross Indecency:
>The Three Trials of Oscar Wilde").  The were a number of scandals in late
>Victorian England-- the Cleveland Street scandal (referring to a house at 88
>Cleveland Street, London, operating as a brothel for clandestine meetings
>between telegraph boys and members of the upper class) sent many British
>officials and aritocrats off packing to France on late-night boats
>(homosexual sex was legal in France).  In fact, these laws, which tended to
>mandate a couple years of jail (and the unofficial punishment of societal
>ruin, since they were directed less an informant male prostitutes and more
>the men who were supposed to be examples and the pillars of society), were
>merely a lessening of the death penalty for such acts, which was in place
>only a little earlier.  They were not repealed until 1967.
>megan (specialist in late 19th/early 20th century British literature and
>queer theory).

   I stand corrected, my memory of where I got that information is
hazy; it may have been in a book on the gay marriage issue my father
lent me, and it may have been France or even the USA the author was
referring to. My point is the same, though, that in a truly free
society "deviant" behavior is neither encouraged nor condemned

Christopher R. Coolidge

Homepage at


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 14:42:43 EST
Subject: '99 Top Cd's

I have really enjoyed everyone's favorite 1999 CD's..... well, after
thorough research and are mine (in alphabetical

Top 10
Beck- Midnite Vultures
Blinker the Star- August Everywhere
Marshall Crenshaw- 447
Jason Falkner- Can You Still Feel?
Flaming Lips- The Soft Bulletin
Fountains Of Wayne- Utopia Parkway
Ron Sexsmith- Whereabouts
Sloan- Between the Bridges
Wilco- Summer Teeth
XTC- Apple Venus V.1

XTC gets the top spot followed by Fountains Of Wayne. After that? It's a
free for all. And contrary to what a few others have said, I felt this was
a great year for music. So here are some honorable mentions:

High Llamas- Snowbug
Owsley- Owsley
Stereolab- Cobra Phases......
Cockeyed Ghost- Scapegoat Factory
Gigolo Aunts- Minor Chords & Major Themes
Freedy Johnston- BLue Days Black Nights
Old 97's- Fight Songs
Self- Breakfast With Girls

How about some great reissues/collections:

Stevie Wonder- At the Close Of the Century
Beastie Boys- Sounds Of Science
Pete Ham- Golder's Green
Os Mutantes- Best Of
Shaggs- Philosophy Of The World

Finally, soundtracks:

South Park: Bigger, Longer, Uncut

Thanks for indulging me!

Happy Holidays,

Carson, Ca


Message-ID: <003201bf4ed5$25a2f3a0$3a84ebd1@Pjbaldan>
From: "johnbaldan" <>
Subject: My 1999 Favorites
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 07:38:47 -0500

Just another Chalkhillian weighing in with his favorite discs of 1999.
Merry New Year!

Apple Venus, Volume 1 / XTC
Utopia Parkway / Fountains of Wayne
Mars, Pennsylvania / John Southworth
Hydrangea / Kate Jacobs
Summer Teeth / Wilco
Looking for a Day in the Night / Lilac Time
When Your Heartstrings Break / Beulah
#447 / Marshall Crenshaw
Bad Love / Randy Newman
Breakfast With Girls / Self
Rain, Steam and Speed / Mutton Birds


Message-Id: <>
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 1999 13:04:54 -0800
Subject: Thanks for christmas... and the stereo, too...
From: "Diamond" <>

My main gift this year for christmas was a brand new stereo. this thing is
awsome, it has four speakers, with long cords, so that you can mount them on
opposite walls to create a soround sound effect. I have to tell you, I'ts
magic. the first song I listened to on it was River of Orchids, and it's
like I've never truely heard this song before. It just fills up the room
with musical bliss. I think that, if I was forced to only listen to one song
by XTC, I would choose ROO. It's just so magical, and brilliant. I could put
it on repeat and listen to it for hours. It's great.

in other news, can't wait for AV2 . Apparently, the recordings done, right?
And the tentative release date's still april? I'm so excited, the year 2000
is going to be absolutely fantastic. New XTC, new Tom Robbins book,
hopefully a new TMBG album, and I've heard rumours of a new David Byrne
album, but they may be unfounded.

kevin Diamond

P.S. I'd like that is awsome too on this stereo. God, great X-Mas.
"To emphasize the afterlife is to deny life. To concentrate on heaven is to
create hell."
          -Tom Robbins


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 13:32:39 -0500
From: Todd and Jennifer Bernhardt <>
Subject: How 'bout them Endorphins!


I never used to think those letters in Chalkhills Forum were real, but I
just had such an intense XtcPerience that I had to share it with a bunch
of people I've never met.

As an XtcMAS present, my beautiful and talented wife (who, btw, hates Air
Supply with all her might, bless her soul) took the kids and headed over
the hills and through the woods to Grandmother's house, leaving our house
-- and my drumset -- all to me. After a nutritious breakfast of black
coffee, Mallomars and _The Washington Post_ (for roughage), I headed
downstairs, grabbed my CD of _English Settlement_, and sat down behind the

It was good. You'll notice that I didn't say *I* was good, though I may
have sounded Respectable from the Street (wrong album, forced pun, so
what). But I think I may have briefly channeled the soul of Terry
Chambers, snatching it for a moment from his warm bed on the other side of
the globe, as I used to do in the days of yore, when my forearms were like
Popeye's and I could play "Outside World" at twice its normal tempo.

Those were the days when I had calluses, too. No more. By the time I had
finished "Melt the Guns," I was thinking, okay, I'm in considerable pain
here, maybe I should stop. But "Leisure" started, so what the hell, I had
to play along if only to listen to Andy's sax swing solo and mimic Terry's
breaks. Well. "It's Nearly Africa" came on after that. 'Nuff said. Okay,
so I figured I'd finish up with "Knuckle Down," because the hi-hat/snare
interplay is too much fun to pass up.  Hmmm. "Fly on the Wall" really
rocks, what with its driving kick/snare patterns, and I would have been an
idiot to stop before "Down in the Cockpit" (man need a woman to pull him
right out of it). Then there's that segue right into too-cool ska-in-5/4
"English Roundabout," so no stopping there. And what I really want to
know, man (my oh my), is who could pass up playing "Snowman"? Not I. Or
me, either.

So now I'm in exuberant pain, gingerly typing to remind you all what a
great band it is we gather here for, and what great fucking albums they've
put out. I don't care what year it is or what millennium it's going to be,
what drugs we do or don't do when we usher or don't usher it in, what we
own, what we bought, who we say we are ... what matters is this: For more
than 20 years, there have been these talented people from Swindonium who
decided to get together, pool their considerable talents, and share the
fruits of their labors and their love of music with us. What a joy that I
can sit here secure in the knowledge that more Apple Venus will be coming
our way, next year, and in the years to come.

I'm coming down now, so I'll stop. Thanks for Chalkhills...


Message-ID: <>
From: "garret harkawik" <>
Subject: I have returned
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 18:09:54 EST

Finally! after almost a month, my internet provider has fixed my
connection!!!  Anyone who lives in Buffalo: Avoid Adelphia's internet
services at all costs!!!!!  Sure, cable modems are fast but Adelphia is just
so fucking unreliable!!!!!!!!!!!

But anyway, Here are the best albums I bought in 1999:

1-All the XTC albums I bought(AVv1, Homespun, O+L, Nonsuch, GO2, D+W, Dub
Experiments, Black Sea, Live, Big Express, Skylarking, and some other things
which I can't remember as of right now)

2-Morphine: like Swimming

3-Man...Or Astro-Man: Your Weight on the moon

4-FireWater: The Ponzi scheme

5-Mark DeGliAntoni: Horse Tricks

6-G. Love And Special Sauce: Philidelphonic


Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 00:56:09 EST
Subject: Filipino XTC disc/McCartney

I noticed Mark Strijbos mentioned a Filipino (!) 7" single of "Peter
Pumpkinhead". This interests me greatly. Any details? How did ya get it?
Where can I get one?

Again, thanks to all who have put up their lists of '99 faves. Very fun to
read. It has me wanting to check out some of those picks. I know my list
was quite voluminous, yet I left a key CD off the list... Paul McCartney's
"Run Devil Run". Great stuff.

And just a sidenote.... some of McCartney's solo work has been horrid
("Ebony & Ivory", "The Girl Is Mine", "Spies Like Us", "Say Say Say",
etc...). This is true. But I feel much of his solo work has been sadly
neglected. Songs like "Junior's Farm", "Getting Closer", "Arrow Through
Me", "My Love",etc...... to me, sound great. Among the best work of the
1970's. My question is this.... had Paul just appeared out of the blue in
1970 (without ever being in a BIG band) , wouldn't music critics/historians
have been quite enamored with him? I tend to think so. Call it fluff, but
songs like "Let 'Em In" are really super tunes. Just curious for some

I have championed Prefab Sprout in the past, so I should inform anyone who
cares that they have a new 2 CD compilation called "38 Carat
Collection". It is an import & quite expensive-- but it is great. It also
includes the Sprout's debut single "Lions In My Own Garden (Exit Someone)"
which has been out of print for at least 15 years. And yes, they're still

Finally, I am very excited about "Apple Venus Volume 2" AND "Fuzzy Warbles"
(I hope it has at least 6 discs!). Bring on 2000.


Carson, Ca


Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 11:51:52 EST
Subject: Interesting opinion

<< he started buying into the political
 philosophies of so-called "radicals" (charlatans) of the time--people
 like John Sinclair, Abby Hoffman and Jerry Rubin, Angela Davis, etc.
 He also started creating songs with what I'm sure he felt were "Right
 On!" political lyrics.  >>

Oh, yes, that's right "Abby Hoffman was wackey," those weirdos had nothing
important to say, let's just shade our eyes from an embarassing time when
people thought they could put things right.  Let's all be right thinking
people and realize our fate is in the hands of our corporate overlords.  Suck
it up and go with the tide, in fact why am I listening to XTC right now,
there are so many Celine Dion records that make perfect sense right now.
After all Sony wants me to listen to them on my Sony CD player that I bow
down to every night(sic).

Sorry if you find this all disturbing but I find a posting basically hinting
that John Lennon should not have put on his glasses and start thinking a
little disturbing.  Yes and Andy should have sucked it up and kept touring
too I suppose.  After all who needs that sentimental hogwash like "Merely A



Message-Id: <>
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 10:46:34 -0800
Subject: Riddle of the Ages
From: "Jeannie" <>

Hey fellow Chalkers,

I'm hunkering down in my freshly dug bunker, cowering and typing, as I
await the inevitable.  If we do survive the turn of the millenium, I want
to wish you all a joyful, prosperous, healthy and xTc-filled New Year!  My
NY's resolution: to bring more into the fold, to open peoples ears up to
the under-appreciated music of xTc.  I just don't understand why they are
not the big rich rock stars that they deserve to be.  I don't get it?
why? why?  why? Someone please explain!


Message-Id: <>
Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 17:14:18 -0500
Subject: Re: Spiked
From: "Duncan Watt" <>

So The Inmitable Sherwood po-sted:

>The nugget I offer up for your delectation, then: Thomas Pynchon's liner
>notes for "Spiked! The Music of Spike Jones" (Catalyst, 1994), available and
>handsomely formatted by your correspondent at:


...and I'll ri-poste by re-posting it: you've gotta check this out.

Duncan "all I want for Christmas is my two front teeth back, ma'am" Watt

Kanuba Music


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