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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 321

                 Sunday, 28 November 1999

Today's Topics:

                   Re: the meatitarians
                 Equipment List for D'oh
                       Dukes demos
                     enough already.
                     Re: Meatitarians
                        First Gig
                     Re: Toy Story 2
           Re: I (gulp) agree with... Santiago
                         Re: XTC
            To Swindon , Or Not To Swindon ...
                      Good byeeeeee
                  Top 100 Albums of 1999
                   The loving's coming!
              Blame Canada! Demagoguery now!
          XTC LIVE AND DIRECT: fun time is over
            Excuse the non-XTC content but ...
              Garth Brooks's identity crisis


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Message-Id: <>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:59:24 -0500
From: David Oh <>
Subject: Re: the meatitarians

At 05:35 PM 99/11/24 -0800, Matt Hiner wrote:
And finally, I've joined a group of concerned citizens called the
meatitarians who are working judiciously to spread the word to help stop
the innocent slaughter of our vegetable friends simply for human
consumption.  We have pledged to eat at least four helpings of meat,
chicken, pork, fish, eggs, and cheese a day, and wash each helping down
with a tall, cool glass of milk.  Save the Veggies!
sign me up! vegetables are living matter, too. can't you hear them
screaming when you cut into or boil them? it's horrible! poor little
vegetables! can they ever be saved?

eat whatever you want, for whatever reason it is you want to eat it. or
perhaps we should all just eat "gas and chemicals" because then no living
thing would've been killed for our dinners!

now, would some one pass the gravy please?

sorry, no xtc content this time...

 peace & xtc,



Date: 26 Nov 1999 05:46:01 -0800
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Equipment List for D'oh

Here it is:

Etude by LaPatrie, nylon string (play every day)
Morris, Powered Acoustic, slim line with heavy metal head
Crate G10 XL
Boss Turbo Overdrive OD2 pedal
ART Multiverb LTX multi effects processor
1 pick (unused, I'm a finger picker)
1 glass slide (unused, I'm a finger picker)

Favorite albums purchased in '99

1. AV1
1. Nonsuch
2. Massachusetts - by the Scud Mountain Boys
3. Odelay - Beck
4. Foo Fighters ( the one with fingernails )

Whew! That wasn't so bad. Please note that no albums except for one were
released in '99. (I'm slow to buy things, have to be really sure that I
want it....)


Date: Fri, 26 Nov 99 11:41:06 EST
From: Jeff Rosedale <>
Subject: Dukes demos
Message-ID: <CMM.>

If you haven't visited the XTC Live and direct web site yet, do so and
check out the Dukes demos.

Can you imagine what they would sound like live?!  I had become so used
to the over-produced studio sound that this was pleasantly shocking to
consider...  maybe AV2 will rekindle more in this vein.



Message-ID: <>
From: "rob allen" <>
Subject: enough already.
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 14:09:11 PST

Can the fighting and arguing on Chalkhills please cease??? When I first
started reading Chalkhills it was chock-full of great info. Now it's
degenerating into childish namecalling and excessive foul language.

Satanas (or whoever you are), if you've got a real problem with anyone on
the list, tell Mr. Relph. In fact, I'm going to e-mail John when I'm done
with this. Or, keep it between the offender & yourself.

It's o.k. to conflict on issues concerning XTC or music in general here...
but it should never been mean spirited. I've 'argued' my points before
(see: Brian Wilson) but I looked at it as a spirited debate... nothing
done in hate or anger.

This crap has gotta stop.

Thanks in advance,

Carson, Ca


Message-Id: <l03130301b46459f33990@[]>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 10:40:31 -0500
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Re: Meatitarians

>d finally, I've joined a group of concerned citizens called the
>meatitarians who are working judiciously to spread the word to help stop
>the innocent slaughter of our vegetable friends simply for human
>consumption.  We have pledged to eat at least four helpings of meat,
>chicken, pork, fish, eggs, and cheese a day, and wash each helping down
>with a tall, cool glass of milk.  Save the Veggies!
>-Matt Hiner

  Actually, the only things that are completely cruelty-free to eat are
that which is totally artificial. So let's get out the Kool-aid now, folks,
and wash it down with a healthy serving of Cool Whip!

Christopher R. Coolidge

Homepage at

"A Great law protects me from the government. The Bill of rights has 10
GREAT laws.  A Good law protects me from you.  Laws against murder, theft,
assault and the like are good laws.  A Poor law attempts to protect me
from myself."  - Unknown


Message-Id: <>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 18:41:08 -0800
Subject: First Gig
From: "Diamond" <>

Hello fellow XTC fans and fan-ettes

I'm back from Thanksgiving. I ended up coming home a day early. I had a
great time, ate too much, all the good stuff. TWO HELPINGS OF PIE!!!
That's living!!!

Now, about my first gig. It went surprisingly well, considering what
happened before the show even started. my partner in this band, the
synthesist and co-vocalist, got a little bit of that Partridge
stage-fright.  The only difference was that he wasn't on stage yet. The
day of the performance, he called me up and said he wasn't going to
perform because he was nervous. I still wanted to perform, but he was
really against it. The coffee house we were going to preform at is run by
our band teacher, and we work there even when we aren't performing. So, he
came, but without his synthesizer or our drum machine, so the only
instrument we had with us was my bass.
    Luckely, when he got to the coffee house, the stage fright wore off,
and he decided to play anyways. Unfortunetly, we had no synthesizer for
him to play. We asked everyone who was there if they had any type of key
instrument (synth, keyboard, piano...) and, luckely, one of them had what
he called a "Salvation Army Organ" at his house. He went home to get it,
and we waited behind stage, hoping he would hurry up.
    the "Salvation Army organ" was quit surprising, and not at all what we
expected. It was about the size of a cat, and looked like it was just a
solid box. There were hinges on the back, and it opened up to show two
octaves of keys and a bunch of little buttons like are found on an
accordian. It was called a "Pianorgan" a compination of a piano and an
organ, I guess, but we all called it the penis organ, cause that's what it
sounded like to us when we pronounced it. (Boy, we're a barrel full of
laughs, aren't we?) We played the three songs I told you about a couple of
C-Hill's ago, and did very well. Plus, my mom vtaped it, so she has
something to send to Before They Were Rock Stars when I become famous (and
I WILL become famous, mark my words.

By the way, does anyone know what XTC's first gig was? What did they play?
I'm sure It's in Song Stories somewhere, but I'm to bored to get up and

Kevin Diamond

* ________________________________________________________________________
"Ana Ng and I are getting old and we still haven't walked in the glow of
each others magestic presence
Listen, Ana, hear my words. They're the ones you would think I would say if
there was a me for you"
                            John Linnell of They Might Be Giants


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:46:17 +0000
From: Brian <>
Subject: Re: Toy Story 2


>I'll be in line to see Toy Story 2 pretty soon. It says Randy Newman has
some more songs it it.<

I saw TS2 today.
The first movie was an incredible piece of work.
TS2 blows the first one away.

As for the Randy Newman music, I didn't pay THAT much attention, but I
will say that a song from the first movie is reprised in a rather fun

-Brian Matthews


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 21:21:08 -0500
From: Jefferson Ogata <>
Organization: The Antibozo
Subject: Re: I (gulp) agree with... Santiago

"Diamond" <> wrote:
> If you want to know more about this, read Even Cowgirls
> Get The Blues, by Tom Robbins. T.R. was a Religion major in college before
> he became a Novelist, so his novels are packed with religous references
> and explinations. Mr. Robbins, like Mr. Partridge, is an Athiest.

While it's true that there is good evidence Christ was not born in
December -- winter, after all, is not a good time to conduct a census -- I
hardly think Tom Robbins is a good authority to cite on any issue of
fact. Religion major or no, Mr. Robbins, like Mr. Partridge, *makes stuff
up*. It's science friction, my friend.

Jefferson Ogata.  smtp: <>
finger:  ICQ: 19569681  whois:


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 22:48:30 +0000
From: Brian <>
Subject: Re: XTC


> I was intrigued by a recent post from Iain Murray that  stated that
"Andy Partridge is an anagram of  Dirty Red Pagan".  I came up with a
few more.<

Sounds like someone's been playing aroundover at

-Brian Matthews


Message-ID: <>
Date: 26 Nov 99 21:25:57 PST
From: vee tube <>
Subject: }---:)

     Received this today.

     <incoming message>


 Now, I'll admit, this is not the warning I
wanted to hear.I have tried my best to convince
the HIGH SPAWNTRISS that planet 'Hill should not
be reduced to ambivalence.

  When I read, but,her assessment, RE: There appears
to be an insufficient supply of PAMPER's to any longer
contain the amount of urine these 'Monkey-oids'
  produce. I doth protestied!
   (yes my spill chucker works)

    After 7! near insufferable years, F*kn XTC!
releases AV.1! And now! AV.2.! is on the horizon!
      (not to mention F.W.)
 And you want to eliminate the 'Chukies?

 PLEASE! (I begged on bended fin) At least let
them live to hear AV.2. (she began to thump upon
her blow hole)

 "If I grant you their remission,do you swear they
behave themselves?"

   "No",sadly said I. "But! If I lay my essence
on your royal caviar, We shall rule the quantum
infinite cosmic aquatic, we shall,we shall."

   She thunked upon this,She did,She did.
 And, after much mutual masterfinage...
...She relented.

   "You give good fin! You do, you do,

       Eh? Hey! Hey! I do! I do!

 I only hope I can heep her distracted(and
satisfied) until AV.2. comes out.

 (You Monkey-oids will have to do the rest)


* ___________________________________________

        "I'm gonna grow fins!
and walk back in the water again."
                  Captain Beefheart


Message-ID: <009501bf38c4$d02081c0$645791d2@p13s574p>
From: "John  Boudreau" <>
Subject: To Swindon , Or Not To Swindon ...
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 19:26:01 +0900

Andy , Colin , Gregsy and Ian G. have lived in Swindon for most of
their lives ; who cares if it is not the center of the cultural
universe ? For me it would be a thrill just to walk down the same
streets they do ; have a few pints at pubs they frequent ; and meet
with the locals . I recall being in a central London pub way back in
1978 , and mentioning to someone I had met that the next day I was
heading on up to Muswell Hill ( North London ) to spend a few days
there . His reaction was : " Muswell Hill ?? Why would ANYBODY want to
go there ? " . I explained that I had always dreamed of walking the
streets of The Kinks' and Fairport Convention's Muswell Hill , two of
my fave groups ( at the time ) ; and that it was a bigger thrill for
me than seeing the Queen or exploring The Tower Of London ... On my
way up to Quebec back in 1992 I visited the hometown of my literary
hero Jack Kerouac - Lowell , Massachusetts . Now , all you New
Englanders out there probably know that Lowell ain't much ; but I had
to see the city that gave us that mad , genius Jack ( and of course
pay my respects at his gravesite )...

Swindon , Muswell Hill , Lowell ; these places - for better or for
worse - played a huge role in the aforementioned geniuses lives ; and
had an impact on the music and literature created by them ; therefore
it is only natural that a fan would want to take the time to drop in
for a look around when passing through . How many hundreds of
thousands of fans have flocked to Memphis SINCE Elvis died ? Or
Liverpool ? Our boys still live , sleep , eat , breathe and create in
Swindon ; so next time you are in the neighborhood pay it a visit.
And why not ?

Sushiland John


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 16:05:33 +0000
From: B Blanchard <>
Subject: Good byeeeeee

Dear Chalkillians all

OK at last the date has arrived and David and I shoot off from sunny
London to experience hayfever in December and Jan in NZ! We fly tomorrow
Sunday 28th November returning 29th Jan 2000!!!  Looking forward to
meeting XTC friends on the other side of the world.

Hope the gig went well Dom you missed a great pub-party last night.  So
did I it would seem! Ouch!

Hope you all have a great millennium season good people.  When I return
29th Jan 2000 and resubscribe I don't expect you guys to be bickering
still.   The fights and swearwords are fine by me, I like blood just as
much as the next pacifist, but the namby pamby little footstomping sulks
are getting a tad annoying!

Love from BELINDA


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 15:02:55 EST
Subject: Top 100 Albums of 1999

Another victory of art over commerce. just put up a listing of
the top 100 albums of 1999 (for all genres of music) and guess who filled
in slot # 11. I personally would have put AV1 in the top ten (just above
Richard Thompson's Mock Tudor which was I think was number 6. Beth Orton
was #1 which seems deserved).  What was really interesting were the albums
that didn't make the list (including some by some pretty heavy weight pop

A nice reminder that you don't have to sell 20 million copies to be

On another note: Sometime back there was a complaint about the bonus
tracks being on the middle of the CDs. While that's not an ideal spot
(although some, like the bonus tracks for Big Express and Drums and Wires
don't sound out of place), it's better than not getting them at all. I
have the feeling with all the mergers we'll see more reissues like the
Bowie catalog. They remastered the entire catalog using 24 bit technology,
but dropped ALL the bonus tracks from every CD. A bit of a rip off for the


Message-ID: <001d01bf38ab$995c7680$>
From: "Bob Estus" <>
Subject: The loving's coming!
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 23:47:04 -0800

All around the world, every boy and every girl, need the loving...

>No matter how many times I try and keep it cool, some little dick comes up
>and talks shit, while declaring they are the smartest of them all.

The humble and the great, even those we think we hate, need the

>Grow up.  Get a life.  Just because your afraid of people in person, and
>whimper a way like a little ______ does not mean you need to take out
>your frustrations on the net.

Soldiers of the Queen, all the hard men that we've seen, need
the loving...

>GROW UP! Its over all ready...

Babies at the breast, those in power and those suppressed, need the loving...

>Read through the messages.  Those of you arguing with me are so damn
>self rigtheous.  I dont have time for this bull____ anymore.

Sailors on the seas, or the clergy on their knees, need the loving...

>Racist little biggots first got my friend to leave and I guess you cant even
>stand having me around.

All the rich and poor, even those turks we fight at war, need the loving...

>Go off in your little world and learn some respect.

All round the world, every boy and every girl, need the loving...

>All this over spelling?

Come over here Satanas, I have something for you. Let's face it you
just can't hide. Yeah.... It's a *big* warm bear-hug. Ahhhh...There
there... Hold on...let me sing another one...okay?
Ever'thin'll be all right...Be all right, day and
night-time...ever'thin'll be all right....hmmmm....hmmm....hmm...

everyone's just begging to be loved,


Message-Id: <l03130300b46635515795@[]>
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 21:16:19 -0500
From: MinerWerks <>
Subject: Blame Canada! Demagoguery now!

>From: Satanas Diablo <>
>Subject: Soul Sucking Jerks.
>" Grow up.  Get a life. "
>" Go off in your little world and learn some respect. "
>" Grow up and stop acting like kids. "
>" How self righteous can you all be? "
>" Its people like you who judge people because they speak differntly. "

Thanks for showing me how ignorent everyone is but you,
= Derek =


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 27 Nov 1999 17:40:51 -0500
From: Ian C Stewart <>
Subject: XTC LIVE AND DIRECT: fun time is over

Hello everybody

Looks like XOOM.COM finally caught wind of my growing Real Media
encyclopedia and decided to shut me down for any number of reasons
listed all over the ubiquitous "terms of service" page! Oh well. Sigh.
It was fun.

So thanks again to everybody who checked out the site or requested some
demos... maybe the site will resurface again at a later date...maybe

XTC LIVE AND DIRECT SITE: Dead and Offline! Ouch.

Ian C Stewart


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 01:09:59 EST
Subject: gripe

delurking to ask why satanas diablo doesn't just give up. you are not being
antagonized, you just perceive ("i" before "e" except after "c", except with
the sound of long "a") it to be so. either (exception to the rule) laugh
along with everybody or get off the list. your whining and victim stance are
tiresome and really take alot of fun out of chalkhills. sort of like i'm
doing right now, but what the hell.
you are free to talk about whatever you want, but realize that people are
going to flame and disagree with you. that's life, get a fu*king helmet.
you're not ignorant because you can't spell, you're ignorant because you
don't do anything about it.

uneducated, but literate,

ps: apologies for prolonging the issue and indulging a paranoid, but i
couldn't keep it in any longer.

pps: anagram: satanas diablo = old santas labia


Message-ID: <006601bf3986$5cb91ea0$7a5791d2@johnboud>
From: "John Boudreau" <>
Subject: Excuse the non-XTC content but ...
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 18:52:04 +0900

All ,

Check out these anagrams ...

Evangelist                 Evil's Agent

Desperation                A Rope Ends It

The Morse Code             Here Come Dots

Mother-in-law              Woman Hitler

Ronald Wilson Reagan       Insane Anglo Warlord

Alec Guinness              Genuine Class

Eleven plus two            Twelve plus one

>>This one's truly amazing:

To be or not to be: that is the question, whether tis nobler in the mind to
suffer the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune.

And the Anagram:

"In one of the Bard's best-thought-of tragedies, our insistent hero,
>Hamlet, queries on two fronts about how life turns rotten."

And for the grand finale:

"That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind."
- Neil Armstrong

The Anagram:

"A thin man ran; makes a large stride, left planet, pins flag on
moon!  On to Mars"

John in Pin Pon ( sound a Japanese doorbell makes and = Nippon which means
Japan )


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 05:48:14 -0500
From: Jefferson Ogata <>
Organization: The Antibozo
Subject: Garth Brooks's identity crisis

So, what do all the fans of the Dukes of Stratospear, Spinal Tap, and
Ziggy Stardust lurking out there think about Garth Brooks's little
identity-creation experiment known as Chris Gaines?

[For those not in the know: Garth Brooks is a big-selling country singer
who has invented a rock star persona by the name of Chris Gaines, and
created an entire history for the character, portraying it in a
"documentary" aired on VH-1 entitled "Behind the Life: Chris Gaines",
which disguises the hoax in a manner similar to that of the famous Orson
Welles 1929 (?) radio broadcast of "War of the Worlds". Brooks stars in
the program as Gaines, and is launching a tour including a Saturday Night
Live appearance under this alias, to promote release of new pop/rock music
under the false name, all apparently as a means of launching a career in
another genre. The supporting label has launched web sites, both official-
and unofficial-seeming to back up the fiction.]

I have to say, it smacks of a fundamental dishonesty to me, but is it
really any different from the Dukes? What say ye?

Jefferson Ogata.  smtp: <>
finger:  ICQ: 19569681  whois:


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