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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 320

                 Friday, 26 November 1999

Today's Topics:

               Happy Harvest Season To All
                          AL TV
             Re: Satan's Diablow-ing...thing
                  Beeswax trade anyone?
                    Re: Topical Cream
                       Toy Story 2
               meat treats and train rides
                       My First Gig
                      What to drink
                    Spinner's Top 100
                      River Of Gravy
                   Soul Sucking Jerks.
                         free XTC
             I (gulp) agree with... Santiago


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Always turkey time, never thanksgiving.


Message-ID: <>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 22:04:30 -0700
From: "May O'Mahoney" <>
Subject: Happy Harvest Season To All

I just want to say "Happy Holidays" to all Chalkies.  Ah shucks, I can't
help turning into a Hallmark card around this time of the year.  I know
I can be a brazen, obnoxious handful most of the time, but deep down I'm
a brazen, obnoxious handful that truly appreciates the group that has
formed around a fabulous band.

I'm not always here with a pocket full of witticisms or incredible
earth-shattering news about the boys - but heck, isn't this list more
about socializing with those that share a common thread?

Do you really think that if we were all at a party together, the only
thing we'd talk about is XTC in calm, even tones?  Noo, after a while
we'd show our playful, sarcastic, honest, brash sides -  telling each
other to "piss off" with the biggest grins on our faces.


On another note:

I just watched the documentary "Modulations" for the second time last
night.  It's a film about the history of electronic music - focusing in
on the last few years of the techno scene.  You see all of these fast
punks spinning and scratching from New York to London to Tokyo, and what
do I see in the background of one DJ's get-up?  Yup, you guessed it - a
big poster of what looked liked the "Mummer" cover with XTC printed down
the side.

OK, so some of you are chuckling - thinking of what it TRULY is alluding
to.  I don't know, it would be cool to think that XTC had an influence
on the DJ/electronic music scene - the BAND, not just the DRUG.  (grin)

Best, Best To All,

- May O'Mahoney


Message-ID: <>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 23:06:47 EST
Subject: AL TV

BTW the show that XTC played acoustically on was AL TV.  For a week MTV let
"Weird" Al Yankovic have a show of his own and one day XTC played
"Scarecrow People" on it.  I've got it on tape w/ Al's introduction.  The
rest of the show was quite forgettable.



Message-Id: <>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 21:49:31 -0500
Subject: Re: Satan's Diablow-ing...thing
From: "Duncan Watt" <>

Mr. Satanas Diablo <> quotheth:

>And I say:
>I did not say turkeys, I said TURKS!  Learn some history, then come back
>with an intellegent response.

And I say:

"please Hammer... don't hurt 'em!"

Duncan "resist the Dark Impulses, Sherwood" Watt


Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:28:36 +0100 (MET)
From: M <>
Subject: Beeswax trade anyone?
Message-ID: <>

Daniel Duncan <> asked:

> anyone know where i can get a copy of "beeswax" on cd? i think i've
> inquired here before, but never heard back from anyone.
It's really difficult to find nowadays - occasionally copies pop up on
eBay. I'd be happy to make anyone a CD-R copy - usually I have qualms
about copying legitimate releases, but Beeswax is really impossible to find.

And Kevin Diamond ventured:

> P.S. I'll give you 5 dollars to do my science homework for me.
Done! Just fax it over....

And is it just me, or has the list (excepting Dom and Harrison) been kind
of dull lately? Rather light on XTC content, IMHO.



Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:06:53 +0000
Subject: Re: Topical Cream

In #5-318 the inestimable Mr. Lawson precis-ed:

> Today's "basic gist" is as follows.... <

Sheesh, Dom, a whole post with only one bleeped (and quoted, what's more)
swear word and one blasphemy. Man, you're slipping in your old age

> Besides, it's not compulsory to read every word on Chalkhills <

It isn't???   ....    Oh

Michael D. Myers observed:

> from what I see, almost everybody is smart, well-spoken and love the band

Oh well, one out of three isn't bad, I guess

and El Diablo whined:

> its so hypocrytical that I must stay on topic but you can talk about
thanksgiving! <

Who says you must stay on topic?? Perhaps if you stopped feeling sorry for
yourself and just got on with simply participating you might find the
Chalkhills experience more fulfilling??

Cheers, Steve


Message-ID: <>
From: "Witter, Karl F" <>
Subject: Toy Story 2
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:57:54 -0500

I'll be in line to see Toy Story 2 pretty soon. It says
Randy Newman has some more songs it it. I'm wondering if,
after the Giant Peach debacle, Andy's sworn off that
whole outlet?

Also, after a year in new digs, the LP cleaner has been
found again, in a misplaced box of CDs and tapes. Now I
can use the turntable!

That brings us to our study questions: If one has spent
a year with some recorded music hermetically sealed, and not
turned the house upside down looking for those items,
(1) does that person own enough CDs/tapes already, and
(2) how important are those to have gone missing for a year?

Mad but in miniature,


Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:28:06 EST
Subject: XTC!

I've heard of this great band called XTC.  Maybe you are interested...
Anyway, discussions re: whether Dom is a c**t aside, I was intrigued by a
recent post from Iain Murray that  stated that "Andy Partridge is an
anagram of  Dirty Red Pagan".  I came up with a few more.
For Dave Gregory: "O, Very Red Gag!", "Greg or Davey?", "Do Grey Grave"
For Colin Moulding: the very apt "Old Coin Mug Nil" or the more apt
"Mug in Cold Loin"
For Barry Andrews: "Raw Sabre Nyrd" and the extremely apt "Raw Berry Nads"
For Terry Chambers: "Yerr Best Charm", "Met Cherry Bars" and, the best of
all, "Beer Scar Rhytm"
Andy Partridge is either "Partying Dread", "Dead Party Grin" or (my
favorite) "Dead Prying Rat"
Finally, for those in the know, we have the following:
Red Curtain = "Retina Crud"
Dave Cartner  = "Rent Cadaver"
and Ian Reid = "i.e. Nadir"
    To wrap this up, let me say that Dom is definitely a c**t  (though
a very nice one) & I am a vegetarian who is very happy that tofu
tastes nothing like meat.

Happy Thanksgiving!

-Tom Griffin (grit moffin?)


Message-ID: <>
From: "Megan Heller" <>
Subject: meat treats and train rides
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:36:39 CST

I'm glad the holidays are coming.  I think there are more than a few
vacations needed (lord knows if I don't get out of Memphis I'm going to

Dom cheers--
>Now call me Old Mr. Unpopular, but how cool is it that we can have a
>discussion about meat products on this list? Sure, it's almost totally
>irrelevant but seriously, how cool is that????

other than that comment making me laugh, it makes me think that AV2
better come out before too long; we're obviously bored.  Perhaps if
Partridge knew we'd resorted to discussions of meat he'd push up the
release date...

Jim Smart shares--
> >>actually pass through Swindon without stopping for a look ' round ? I
> >>you !
>Well, I did it. not once, but twice. First my wife and I were leaving
>Bourton-on-the-Water on a drive to Bath, and went through Swindon. I had
>thoughts of XTC, specifically "English Roundabout", since that's about
>all I saw of Swindon. Second, on another trip, my train passed through
>Swindon, and as I gazed through the rain at the dirty and dull
>industrial town, I thought of Red Brick Dreams.

I went through Swindon on the train from Bath to Oxford, and I
actually thought of the same song; I'm sure we're not alone in that on
this list.  I considered going to Swindon for the day while I was in
England, but I didn't have much time, I was travelling alone (so it
wouldn't be so much fun, probably), and the mother of a guy I knew
from Abingdon told me by no means should I go there-- she thought it
was dangerous and nothing but rail yards.
  I doubt it's quite that bad, but it would have been sort of sad to
tour it without anyone else to derive amusement with me.

other Americans-- happy Thanksgiving, if you celebrate, whatever you eat.
(there.  nobody bloody insulted.  hm, except maybe now.  oh well.)

megan (the cranky temp worker).


Message-Id: <>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:34:29 -0800
Subject: My First Gig
From: "Diamond" <>

Oh yeah, I never told you guys about my first gig. It went really
well, despite a lot of pre-show problems. I'll be sure to tell the
whole story when I get back, but Right now, I've got to catch a plane
OFF of this island (not England, but Nantucket), Get OFF "the Rock" as
we Nantucketers call it, onto the mainland, back to america, to
celabrate thanksgiving by eating to much and watching my aunts get
drunk and laugh a lot. Boy, this is a great holiday.


Kevin Diamond

P.S. I'll be back on friday night, so anyone who rights me any e-mails,
don't exspect any responses until then.
"She thinks she's Edith Head,
But you might know she's not
the accent in her speach
she didn't have growing up."
        -John Flansburgh/They Might be Giants


Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 12:03:12 -0500
From: Dorothy Spirito <>
Subject: ::snicker!::
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.00.9911221414090.13046-100000@esun2028>

Mark Strijbos used the word "coprophiliacs" when I think he meant to use
"coprophages" -- "shiteating" (as opposed to "shitloving").

Yes, yes; I sent my VH1 email requesting XTC on Behind the Music.

The delay in airing Andy's SGC2C appearance sucks!  Keep us informed,
please, Andy N.

It may come as a surprise to "Satanas Diablo", but *I'm* a vegan.

Kevin opined that many of us might like Tom Robbins' books.  I went
through a phase [mumble] years ago when I read & enjoyed his stuff.
Especially __Still Life With Woodpecker__ (being a redhead and all).
Which seems like an appropriate thing to re-read as we approach Y2K.

DavidOh pressed us Chalkettes to submit <-- nonono; wait for it --> our
lists of musical instruments owned.  ::sigh!:: I *had* a beautiful black
lacquer Kawai upright, but it had to be sold ere one of my several moves.
All I currently possess in the way of instruments musical are a crappy
student's guitar, a crappy electronic keyboard, a nice Echo Harp Hohner
harmonica, a couple of recorders, a wooden flute, and a mouth harp.
Aaaaah! you were right, DavidOh; it was constipating to keep it all in.

Drat; I'm *still* not caught up on Chalks, but I have to leave now for the
12-hour trek to my folks' place for Thanksgiving.

Have a good one!


Message-Id: <l03130302b461dcca9d4a@[]>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:23:20 -0500
From: Chris Van Valen <>
Subject: What to drink

Hi 'sticks

On your Thanksgiving table, enjoy a bottle of Domaine St. George 1997 Chalk
Hill Chardonnay (for real!)


If you have an unpleasant nature and dislike people
this is no obstacle to work. - J.G. Bennett

And it's potato, potato, potato. - Mike Keneally


Message-Id: <>
Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 14:27:28 -0500
From: David Gershman <>
Subject: Spinner's Top 100

Hey Chalkers,

 I occasionally listen to the Spinner Internet music player while I work,
and they have a new channel called "Y1K Rock," which plays a rotation of
songs from a list of the Top 100 Rock Songs of the 20th Century, as
compiled by their "DJs," or whoever. The interesting thing to note is that
upon perusal of said list, it appears that they've chosen "Making Plans for
Nigel" as one of those very same Top 100! Now of course I'm sure many of us
would argue with that choice of XTC song, or more likely the choice of
**only one** XTC song, but nonetheless it's nice to see them not being
overlooked! Viva l'XTC!

Dave Gershman


Message-ID: <>
Date: 24 Nov 99 13:56:12 PST
From: vee tube <>
Subject: River Of Gravy


 I heard the pumpkin pies scream out,
  "hey, we need more cool whip!"

 Gonna bake up some chex mix
  need a worcestershire fix
 Gonna thow in whole cashews
  and sesame cheese stix

   Push your peas to the si-ide

  River of gravy,poured from a boat
  With mashed potatos,I will build a mote

 I heard the brown 'n' serves scream out,
   "hey! we need more butter.

   Gonna watch me some football*
    And I'll turn the sound way down
   Warm up vacuum tubes
    And in XTC I'll drown.

   Push broc'li to the flo-or

    River of gravy..........



*GO LIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 00:49:37 -0500
From: Davies <>
Subject: Viet

> Generals and Majors, Living Through Another Cuba - XTC / Vietnam -
> Jimmy Cliff

I thought "Living Through Another Cuba" was about the Afghanistan
conflict.  It does seem like it was written about a current even instead
of looking back on Vietnam, and the Soviets entered Afghanistan late in
the year before Black Sea was released.  Another song I know of that
mentions the Afghanistan thing is "Don't Count on Me" by Gruppo Sportivo.

> Songs I don't have, but recommended:  Billy Bragg:  Tender Comrade / X:
> Back to the Base / Redgum:  I Was only 19/ Cold Chisel:  Khe Sanh / New
> York Dolls:  Vietnamese Baby / The Pop Group:  For How Much Longer Do We
> Tolerate Mass Murder? / Fred Small:  No More Vietnams / President Leaky
> Faucett:  Letter to Vietnam / John Lee Hooker:  Don't Wanna Go to
> Vietnam / Lotion:  Marijuana Vietnam  / Master:  Return to Vietnam /
> Phil Ochs:   Talking Vietnam Blues / Lee Harvey Oswald Band:  Panic in
> Hanoi / House of Love:   The Beatles and the Stones / And other material
> by Throbbing Gristle and Crass

You probably don't have this, but there's a song called "The 'Wish I Had
Gone To Vietnam' Blues" on the self-titled album by Bedful of
Metaphysicians.  And then there's They Might Be Giants' "Ana Ng", which is
about a girl with a Vietnamese-sounding name who lives on the other side
of the world from New York, e.g. the general vicinity of Vietnam.

Michael davies


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:22:50 -0800
From: Dan Phipps <>
Organization: CIC
Subject: gobble-gobble!

happy thanksgiving, all!

we are indeed blessed...

/Dan Phipps <>

"I would have made this instrumental,
 but the words got in the way."
(Andy Partridge)


Message-ID: <389694617.943521247023.JavaMail.root@web04.pub01>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 04:14:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Satanas Diablo <>
Subject: Soul Sucking Jerks.

No matter how many times I try and keep it cool, some little dick comes up
and talks shit, while declaring they are the smartest of them all.  Grow
up.  Get a life.  Just because your afraid of people in person, and
whimper a way like a little ______ does not mean you need to take out your
frustrations on the net.  GROW UP! Its over all ready...  Read through the
messages.  Those of you arguing with me are so damn self rigtheous.  I
dont have time for this bull____ anymore. Racist little biggots first got
my friend to leave and I guess you cant even stand having me around.  Go
off in your little world and learn some respect.  All this over spelling?
I am ignorent because I dont fix my mistakes?  I am not getting paid here
and I dont have any more time to argue.  I made one statement that OFF
LINE, I dont lose many arguments.  These are logical strutured debates.
Not free for all assholes teaming up on someone for no reason.

Bringing up Socrates?  Was it not Socrates that said the people who act
the smartest are usually hidding their insecurities?  Grow up and stop
acting like kids.  I have an education, but lets say I didnt. Lets say I
could not spell.  Lets say I grew up poor, does that mean I have no right
to be an XTC fan or post on this board?  I am ignorent for not being able
to afford an education?  Anyone who belives this really needs to stop
putting themselves above everyone else and have respect for others
regardless of race, or they economic situation.

I am not poor, I went to college, own my own business, and have a wife and
child.  However, spelling does not make anyone ignorent.  If thats your
oppinion of ignorence, than you are truly ignorent.  Grammer and spelling
have nothing to do with being a fan of XTC or using the internet.  How
self righteous can you all be?  Its people like you who judge people
because they speak differntly.  You think someone is a "wetback" because
they mix up the english language with spanish.  You dont hire my partner
because he "talks black" even though he earned a masters at UCLA.  Thanks
for showing me how ignorent everyone is but you.  You could afford a great
school, so everyone who does not watch their spelling, where a tie, or are
white, are ignorent.  Thanks.


Subject: free XTC
Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 16:12:07 PST

I'd like to point out to people who don't own Homespun yet, that you can
download Easter Theatre for free at kinda shocked me to see
that-I was going there to see what they had in the way of XTC....


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:30:38 +1000
Subject: Swindon

> Heresy, go wash your mouth with carbolic soap, you.. you... you
> infidel!!...Imagine yourself asleep in a car passing through
> Swindon.

Lister: Where have I been?
Kryten: Well, sir, for the last few minutes, you've been dead!
Kochanski: What's it like?
Lister: Ever been to Swindon?
               -Red Dwarf 7


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 21:12:00 EST
Subject: Greggsy

Yes, you could tell from my last post that I had about 2 hours of sleep
(twin boys with bilateral ear infections always makes for fun, sleepless
nights!).  A related XTC question--does anybody know what Dave Gregory's
solo disc will feature in the way of songs. Are the songs on Dave's solo
disc going to be covers or will we actually be able to hear a collection
of tunes written by Dave?

Either way, I'll probably purchase it, but I was just curious if anyone
knew what the situation (and final release date) might be. Also, will TVT
be picking him up as well or will be stuck with buying it as an import?

Happy Thanksgiving to all in the US



Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 21:04:57 -0800
Subject: I (gulp) agree with... Santiago
From: "Diamond" <>


I don't mean to agree with Santioblo, or whatever his name is, but I think
he's correct.

Santana said:

> Millions of people cellebrate Xmas though they are not Christians! (in
> reality, Xmas is a Pegan holiday actually).

and then you replied:
>after all it [christmas] is the celebration of the birth of Christ, not

Actually, most evidence points to Christ being born in july. How do I know
this? I've read to many Tom Robbins books.

you see, Before Christ came into play, Europe had another god, The Horned
One, the Old God. He was described to have Horns and harry, hooved
feet. He was jolly, and danced a lot, and celebrated Fertility and
Joyousness. When Christianity came to town, the christians decided to
sabatoge this god by making their devil, Satan, described the same
way. Eventually, this god became the christian devil, and Christianity
took over many of the Old God's holidays. What we now celebrate as
Christmas was origianlly a winter celebration of the Old God.

Now you're all bored and/or angry, aren't you? Anyway, I didn't explain
this very well. If you want to know more about this, read Even Cowgirls
Get The Blues, by Tom Robbins. T.R. was a Religion major in college before
he became a Novelist, so his novels are packed with religous references
and explinations. Mr. Robbins, like Mr. Partridge, is an Athiest.


"She thinks she's Edith Head,
But you might know she's not
the accent in her speach
she didn't have growing up."
        -John Flansburgh/They Might be Giants


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