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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 307

               Wednesday, 10 November 1999

Today's Topics:

                    The Bootleg Album
                  Happy Birthday, Andy!
                   Karaoke & Tom Servo
               Drawing XTC on Colored Paper
                      CONTEST RULES
                   Is it true??????????
   Former Chalkhills regular in Rolling Stone magazine!
              Brufording Up With Bowie Bragg
                   dried meat for chew
          Gets Ya Outta Your Red White and Blues
                     The Flaming Lips
                 I'll Set Myself on Fire
                     Re: Many things:
           Are you kiddin' me,..... WUA-isosp?
               An Open Letter To Dom Lawson
                    The Adventure Club
                      Last night...
                 Dom's Dong! A13 Calling


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Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 17:36:25 EST
Subject: The Bootleg Album

  Hey folks!

Wes Hanks writes:

 Right then,

 1. Apple Venus 1
 2. Homespun
 3. Apple Venus 2
 4. Homegroan
 5. Fuzzy Warbles (+/- 80 tracks)

 Life's great!

 Wes Hanks
                    But then it occured to me, whatever happened with" The
Bootleg Album" ? This seemed to be moving along nicely, and then Dave passed
and it was never seen again.

     What about it?                  eddie st. martin


Message-ID: <003f01bf2a44$22be41e0$>
From: "Rat Fink" <>
Subject: Happy Birthday, Andy!
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 18:51:00 -0500

I typed XTC into the search window of Yahoo! News today and got these:

Celebrity Birthdays:
Nov. 11: Singer-musician Paul Cowsill of the Cowsills is 47. Singer-musician
Andy Partridge of XTC is 46. Actor Stanley Tucci is 39. Actress Demi Moore
is 37. Actress Calista Flockhart is 35. Actor Leonardo DiCaprio is 25. Makes Sevendust, Nine Inch Nails and Other TVT Artists
Available on Site for Digital Download and Custom Compilation
RESTON, Va., Nov. 3 /PRNewswire/ -- (Nasdaq: HITS - news) the
largest custom CD service and licensed digital download site on the
Internet, announced today that music from Sevendust, Nine Inch Nails and
many other TVT artists are now available on the site for custom compilation
and digital download in the Secure MP3 and Windows Media formats. The tracks
were licensed to in a September deal with TVT Records, one of
the world's leading independent music labels. In addition to Sevendust and
Nine Inch Nails, the five-year exclusive licensing agreement also includes
tracks from other TVT artists such as XTC, Speech, Guided By Voices,
Underworld, and KMFDM. Multiple tracks from the hit soundtracks Buffy The
Vampire Slayer, Blade and Mortal Kombat will also be available on the site
along with the only on-line series of television themes from the
ever-popular Television Greatest Hits series.

I'll bet Andy would be amused to know that he's now a Celebrity!



Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 19:06:14 EST
Subject: Karaoke & Tom Servo

  I put my stereo on "karaoke" and listened to  AV1. Pretty cool. It removes
the lead singing & brings everything else up. I always thought XTC's
harmonizing was a highlight,now I get to hear it uninterupted.
  Have no fear Garret, there are plenty of MST3K fans out there. I have 3
originals from 1990 on tape.It is truly one of the funniest shows
ever,especially with Joel.
  Did I see someone knock fishing a few posts back? Dems fightin' words.Our
very own Colin is/was an avid fisherman. Theres nothing like spending some
quality time out in the middle of nowhere hunting the wiley pisces.It gives
me a chance to spend time with The Greenman. Look for me on the shores of
Ocean City,N.J. on this weeks Wild Kingdom!
   Peace out.  Roger


Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 8 Nov 1999 21:44:57 EST
Subject: Drawing XTC on Colored Paper

I'm thinking about using a 60-pencil (Prismacolor) colored pencil set that
I've had for ages to do various drawings of XTC, the band's logo, etc.,
cropping, mounting on mat board, and then having a spiffy XTC montage.

I want to use colored paper (Canson, Strathmore). Can any XTC artists give me
some tips on working with these media? Please e-mail me directly. Usually, I
just use black and white media. Tips on doing "color on color" would be
great. Never have done it before.




Message-ID: <>
Date: 8 Nov 99 18:29:10 PST
From: vee tube <>

   Contest? What Contest?

 Ahh... The Turkey Pluto CONTEST!

 What is it? Well You have to write
lyrics to a song from AV1. in the
tradition of Turkey Pluto!!!!
   (see digest Vol.5 # 303)
        RE: New XTC
    (it's the 1st post)

1. You must submit one verse and
  one chorus.

          Who Wins?

1. You have to make me blow stuffing
        out my gills!

           By When

1. Entries must be posted on the 'Hill
           by 11/22/99

        What's in it for ya?
         (Ok, I'll put some
        gravy on it for ye!)

1. You win a(1) CDr of,World Party B-Sides,
  Rockpile Live!,Capt'n Beefheart Tribute,
   Jap. Adrian Belew "The Acoustic Belew"
      or, maybe even an XTC! THING!
 (or something from Davey Jones's Locker)

            The Fine Print.

1.Employees of Microstiff,or any of Mr.Gates's
foul SPAWN,any body who works with a marketing
research company,Lawyers,Mrs.PAUL! and employees

             More Fine Print!

1. "FREE" includes UPS in the USA (contiguous) only!
2. If you are from another place, YOU PAY SHIP!

            Start Stuffin'NOW!



Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 23:03:06 -0800
From: Dan Phipps <>
Organization: CIC
Subject: Is it true??????????

You mean, "Fuzzy Warbles" is actually being
worked on and put together now???

Oh joy, oh rapture!!

Can't wait!!  let the nail-biting begin!

/Dan and Ginger Phipps <>

"Everywhere you look, you release parts of
 your senses."  (Jon Anderson)


Message-ID: <>
From: "Jason Garcia" <>
Subject: Former Chalkhills regular in Rolling Stone magazine!
Date: Mon, 08 Nov 1999 23:00:47 PST

Hi, I don't know if anyone here knows or remembers me, but I used to post
here quite frequently back in the day (starting about 3 years ago or so, up
until about a year ago) and I've been on a few Chalkhills' XTC tribute tapes
as TOP 40.  Anyway, if you do remember me, you might be interested to know
that there is a picture of me in the Dec 1 issue of Rolling Stone!  I was
interviewed on the subject of mp3 downloads, and they used a quote in the
article.  It's a small article, and probably a small pic (I haven't seen it
yet), but it's there nonetheless.

Former Chalkhills regular makes good!

For what it's worth,
Jason (Garcia)
formerly of TOP 40
now of Household Names


Message-ID: <000f01bf2a8c$e4317de0$ade47ad1@default>
Subject: Brufording Up With Bowie Bragg
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 03:31:46 -0500

Megan (insert clever synonym for "said" here):
> I agree that "hours..." doesn't sound like it's going to be a classic
> (it's a little quiet, maybe too much of a transition from "Earthling",
> which I do think is a classic).  However, I think Gabrels is a brilliant
> guitarist, even more so since I saw Bowie play in DC in 97.

"Earthling" was very good; I don't know why it got so stepped on by
critics.  If they felt he was just jumping on a bandwagon, well, it's not
the first time, and he sounded great at it.  And I actually agree that
Gabrels is a very good guitarist, but I wish Bowie wouldn't let him
co-write so many songs, or, in the case of the new album, *all of them*.
I mean, he gets in a few good riffs, but come on.  Has Bowie learned
nothing from Tin Machine?  (Sorry, Dom.)  I know, I know, Gabrels
contributed lots of music to "Earthling", too, and I'm sure he's not
holding a gun up to Bowie's head and saying "You will only use my lamest
chord progressions"; I shouldn't scapegoat.  But what the hell, I'm going
to scapegoat him anyway!  It's my right as a boorish American.

> In #5-304 Stephen Jackson suggested:
> > Presumably Virgin, being the wussy dogs they are, thought Avon might sue?

And Steve noted:
> That sort of thing does happen (Roy Harper had to
> withdraw 'Watford Gap' from his 'Bullinamingvase' album in the late
> Seventies because someone at Blue Boar objected to the lyrics.

Same sort of thing happened on They Might Be Giants' "John Henry" album;
the song "Nyquil Driver" was retitled "AKA Driver", and it was the one
song which they didn't include the lyrics to on that album.

>...and 'William Bloke' was a major disappointment

Finally, something all the Billy Bragg fans can agree on.  (^_^)

French asked:
> And just about Mastelloto (or elotto ?), on which "King
> you-know-which-colour" album does he play ?

He plays on "Thrak" (as does Bill Bruford; they do a drum duet that's my
favorite thing on the album), and will appear on the next one in lieu of
Bruford, busy touring with Earthworks.

-- Francis

"Don't look at the carpet...I drew something awful on it."
   -- David Bowie


Message-ID: <002301bf2a92$b83c13c0$>
From: "Bob Estus" <>
Subject: dried meat for chew
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 01:13:42 -0800

Chalkclimbers and Hillsliders,

A big thank you to Ian Stewart for:
It's been great to have a majority of the rarities accessible in one spot!
I've been having a great listen at work where digging out the cassettes has
always been prohibitive. Keep it up mate!

Which reminds me that Fuzzy Warbles will help a lot of us who don't burn our
own cd's to finally bury some old cassettes. Hurrah! Though I doubt anything
really flatulent will be committed to cd so we'll never be rid of those
smelly old tapes.

Beck's "Mutations" has been mentioned enough in recent digests to almost
make this topical. Okay, while listening to my then new cd "Mutations" I had
like a really real sense of deja vu when I heard "Lazy Flies". It sounded XTC song. But which one?

Ah...I know! It's ****** *****. "Hmm, pretty close", I thought. So just to
compare I placed them end to end on a tape. This was disappointing because
it did reveal them to be fairly different (the lyrics couldn't have been
more different). The songs had some similarities, not copyright infringing
similarities, but some interesting ones none the less.

be my guess,

"A Great signature line provokes thought. Most people have fine signature
lines. A Poor signature lines like this one, used repetitively, takes up
needless space in the archives." -Unk Nown


Message-ID: <>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 01:53:51 -0800 (PST)
From: travis schulz <>
Subject: Gets Ya Outta Your Red White and Blues

Lyricists I like; ok here goes...
1. The Two Guys who write for XTC, um not Barry, it's
on the tip of my tongue..
2. John Hiatt
3. Donald Fagen
4. Webb Wilder

5. The Two Main Guys who wrote for The Beatles, um not
Ringo, it's on the tip of my tongue..

6. Nikki Sixx
On a side note, some have asked if I could dub that
XTC AV1 tv commercial for them. And yes, I do have the
power. Have a great day!


Message-ID: <>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 05:00:13 -0800 (PST)
From: andrew sneddon <>
Subject: The Flaming Lips

I have been at a party where we played all 4 cds of
"Zaireeka" simultaneously and it was pretty wild!
Their latest album "The Soft Bulletin" is well worth a
listen and they are playing in London (Kentish Town
Forum) on Wednesday 10th November- go see!



Subject: I'll Set Myself on Fire
Message-Id: <0006800016835262000002L022*@MHS>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:50:14 +0100

Hi there, you "Kreideberger",

In #301, Travis wrote:
>Subject: Them Colin Moulding Songs- Oh So Good!!!

>I'm in total agreement with what Chris (who digs White
>Music- awesome!) wrote in digest 300...<snip>

This might be a late reply to that post, but the combination of his
mention of "White Music" and Colin's songs must have started something in
my subconscious mind, as, whereas I've always said Colin writes great
songs, it took over a week before I dug out "White Music" again for the
first time in ages.

And what happened?  First, listening to "WM" again just reminds me of how
great XTC has/have been right from the start.  But more interestingly,
while Andy was already writing real pop gems at that point like "This is
Pop", "Statue of Liberty", and a number of others, Colin was writing new
wave excuses for making goofy noises with his voice and forgetting about
melodies.  I mean, I love "I'll Set Myself on Fire" because it's so very
1977 new wave, but it's almost unbelievable to see how far Colin has come.
"Frivolous Tonight" is wonderful, an example of a really great songwriter
-- totally different in his focus and his "endpoints" than his cohort --
showing what he can do.  It's melodic, it's lyrical, it's derivative and
at the same time original, it's perfectly arranged, it's...well, it's
great.  And then you listen to "do what you do what you do what you do
what you do what you do to me" and think, most of the time, he didn't even
write melodies back then!

Like George Harrison in a way, Colin is an example of someone who needed
to immerse himself in the right atmosphere long enough before the magic
could come out of him.  But once he figured it out, he figured it out
good!  And I sure am happy I have all those records so I can witness the

I still believe that XTC is/are only XTC because both songwriters
contribute and both write at such a high niveau.  As much as I love Andy,
I wish Colin were more prolific -- in my eyes, it would only improve the
band, although they already are the best band going.  Otherwise you
wouldn't need "XTC", you could just buy "Andy Partridge".  Of course,
that'd be very good, indeed.  But not as good as XTC!

And only they can "do what they do" like they do it!

- Jeff


Message-ID: <>
From: "Johnson, Tom" <>
Subject: Re: Many things:
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 06:03:41 -0700

	>Yeah, I love MST3K!!! But, Ithought that they had decided that
	>they had made enogh episodes, sort of like Seinfeld.

They were indeed cancelled.  SciFry has decided that they need to be
"serious" and MST3K didn't fit.  From what I heard, they were headed up by
someone who dearly loved MST3K and that's why it ended upon SlyFry in the
first place.  He recently left/was terminated and was replaced by some
schmuck who absolutely *hated* MST3K, and he killed it off.  It's a very
sad thing.  They weren't in their prime, but it was still one of the few
consistenly funny shows on TV these days.  Hopefully, someone (TNT
perhaps) will pick it up.  Go a-searchin' for MST3K sites, you're bound to
find one with the campaign to resurrect the show on a decent network.

	>I agree that "hours..." doesn't sound like it's going to be a
	>classic (it's a little quiet, maybe too much of a transition from
	>"Earthling", which I do think is a classic).  However, I think
	>Gabrels is a brilliant guitarist, even more so since I saw Bowie
	>play in DC in 97.

Hmmm, perhaps I'm more of a passerby-fan, but I think "hours . . ." is
great.  I love Earthling, as well (more, actually.)  But I love the laid
back feel of the "hours . . ."

> >>But come on, isn't it time for Bowie to get rid of
	>Reeves Gabrels already?

Reeves is not in the touring band, if that means anything to you.  And NO!
Keep Reeves around, he's a brilliant and emotional guitarist.

	>Don't be so hard on the Squealmeister! Being a big Tin Machine
	>fan - and yes, we do exist - I've always had a soft spot for
	>Gabrels' tuneless squawking. In fact, I'm rather partial to
	>tuneless squawking in general, as anyone who's heard my bands
	>would confirm!

One man's "tuneless squawking" is another man's heart-strings-being
pulled.  I think Reeves ranks up there with the few modern guitarists who
can truly play from the heart, and doesn't feel the need to follow some
pre-described playing method.  Robert Fripp, David Torn, Trey Gunn, Adrian
Belew and some others I can't think of at the moment are also in that

	>And just about Mastelloto (or elotto ?), on which "King
	>you-know-which-colour" album does he play ? Cos the only ones I
	>got feature Trey Gunn or Bruford or Giles...

Well, first off, Trey Gunn played Stick along with Tony Levin on Thrak -
he doesn't play drums at all.  Secondly, Bruford *and* Mastelotto play on
Thrak simultaneously, as well as subsequent live offereings (B'BOOM,
Thrakattak, Cirkus, & Live On Broadway) and Mastelotto is now the *sole*
drummer of King Crimson.  Bruford is "temporarily" out because of his
insistence on using acoustic drums, and the new direction of KC is purely
electronic.  Pick up the new King Crimson boxset release, The ProjeKcts,
for a glimpse of the future.  It's truly amazing improv-based work.

XTC content: Mummer finally clicked with me the other day.  Being a fairly
recent XTC-fan, I picked this one up about January or so, and was somewhat
disappointed.  It's basically sat ignored for a while, save for the
occasional spin which would make me conclude once again that it didn't do
much for me.  However, just the other day, I brought it to work, stuck it
in the CDRom and was prepared to again not like it.  Bang!  It just made
sense that day.  I think it's a problem with the production.  It seems to
me to be relatively lifeless among the XTC catalog.  And heavy
drum-machine use doesn't help.  Give me a live drummer any day over a
machine - or better yet, a live drummer & a drum machine playing together
for some interesting interplay.



Message-ID: <>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 06:11:09 -0800 (PST)
From: Joe Funk <>
Subject: Are you kiddin' me,..... WUA-isosp?


Hey Gang, I didn't mean to open a can of worms!!

"Simon Deane/Gina Chong" <>

>I shall also be recommending an amendment to
Chalkhills posting etiquette - every post should
contain a kind of "health warning" in the Subject
field - if the post has any ironic, satirical or
sarcastic content, it should say so plainly (I suggest
the following code":<WUA-isosp> [meaning "Wind Up
Alert - ironic, satirical or sarcastic post"]). If
nothing else, such a code will ensure subscribers can
maintain their dignity and not appear like a bunch of
brainless twats.<

Simon! Do you realize the implications of such a
code!? No more Harrison Sherwood?!!  Mr. Relph, please
think twice ( no! three times!! ) before making any
rash decisions concerning amendments to this list!

Maybe we should vote on whether to implement such a
rash notion.


Concering Mr. Gardner's query:

>For those of us who aren't geerheads, could someone
explain to me what exactly *S.O.T.A .CFM 750 Main
Monitors (Powered by Bryston and Crown)* are?<

Sorry John, but:

S.O.T.A . actually stands for: Smacks Of Technical

Thought you should know....

Jo ( shedless horseman ) mama


Message-ID: <001901bf2ac5$2858dee0$87df868b@GaryHooper>
From: "Gary Hooper" <>
Subject: An Open Letter To Dom Lawson
Date: Wed, 10 Nov 1999 02:12:55 +1100

Hey, Dom,

Sometimes you really make me laugh out loud, but then the really ugly,
bullying side of your personality rears to bludgeon any goodwill thus

You may well exhibit this trait in person, but over the net it just looks
pathetic, and a kind of cowardice.

Either this list is open for the public, or it isn't, and John can close
down the invitation to join the list in "Chalkhills" and keep it an
increasingly inbred and self-congratulatory clique, disdainful of outsiders
and jealously guarding "insider knowledge".

Do you think your supercilious posturing has a place on a list devoted to
the works of artists whose entire careers would indicate contempt for such
nonsense? What would they think?

Go back to kicking sick dogs in the street - at least then there's the
chance one will bite back and give you rabies.

"" eh? Says a lot.

Consider my chain yanked,
Gary Hooper

(I await *flamage*)


Message-Id: <>
From: steve mcallister <>
Date: Tue,  9 Nov 1999 11:29:39 -0600
Subject: The Adventure Club


In 1993 the Edge (KDGE Dallas) put out a CD called 'The Adventure Club'.
It was pretty much acoustic songs that bands did while in the radio's
studios.  Anyway, it was a limited thing and there were a bunch of cool
bands on it, including The Cranberries, Frank Black, Jellyfish, Blur, and
of course, XTC doing 'Blue Beret'.
     A hard to find disc; but I just saw it on eBay.  It gets better - the
guy who originally put the thing together, George Gimarc, is the seller and
he is apparently selling off his remaining stock.  They are not CDRs.

     Find it on eBay by searching for "XTC Blur" and it should pull up.

please note:  I am in no way affiliated with KDGE, George, or anything else
- just passing along the info.  I got the disc when it came out and it is

Steve McAllister


Date: 9 Nov 1999 10:26:10 -0800
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Last night...

Last night I attended the Phil Lesh & Friends/Bob Dylan & Friends
concert. During the concert I couldn't get xtc out of my mind (didn't want
to), and today I can't get the reek of weed out of my sweater (want to).



Message-ID: <>
Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 17:07:24 +0000
Subject: Dom's Dong! A13 Calling


In #5-306 James Dignan stated categorically

> the original British lyric sheet to the LP definitely said "Avon Lady" <

In one of several moments of synchronicity over the past few hours (well
come on, what are the chances of the phrase 'Ding Dong! Avon Calling'
appearing in consecutive Chalkhills posts??) I decided to have a little dig
into this one last night (stop yawning at the back) and having checked the
lyric sheet in my vinyl copy I'd have to say that 'definitely' is pushing
the envelope a little here. In fact, on the assumption that the lyric sheet
for the CD version of Black Sea was typed up from the original (pseudo?)
hand-written lyric sheet from the vinyl version, I am not surprised that
someone got it wrong because there is a decided gap between the A and the v
and the final letter could quite reasonably be interpreted as a w rather
than an n. Obviously they could have given the job to someone who knew the
music, and would therefore have realised that 'A vow lady' was utter cack,
but that would have been too easy now, wouldn't it??

and the ever subtle Dom subjectively declared:

> You're all c*nts <

In the words of Derek and Clive: who you calling a carnt, carnt??

> I still reckon you can't beat Bragg's "Peel Session" EP which includes
the legendary "A13, Trunk Road To
The Sea" <

That CD has been on my wish list for ages, but I've never seen it anywhere
(at least, not at a price that I was prepared to pay at the time - mean
bugger that I am). However, I do have the aforementioned 'A13 ...' on a CD
that came with a book called 'In Session Tonight' (which includes a list of
all the Peel sessions - for the anally-retentive like me, obviously), and
it is a cracker. That one and Ian Dury's 'Bus Driver's Prayer' would have
to be my two favourite meaningless-to-anyone-that-doesn't-know-London
tracks ;)

and finally, Ian C Stewart advertised:

> remember, it's free, it's fun and now it's located at! <

Anyone else out there having trouble playing files DLed from this site?? I
have a fairly recent version of the RealPlayer (v6.0.5.27) but I've DLed
eight or nine .RM files and the only one I can get to play is Chickenhead,
the rest either produce an error dialog, crash the RealPlayer, or simply
don't produce any noise (ie. the counter and slider move but I don't get
any sounds). I've tried both the single song files and a couple of the
multi-song files without any success.

Cheers, Steve


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