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Subject: Chalkhills Digest #5-299

         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 299

                Saturday, 30 October 1999

Today's Topics:

                  Re: Then She Appearled
            I Check 'F' In The Box For Sex....
                   more stuff..........
                  what's the difference
                  What's This Ear Then??
                         Re: Fly
                     Guster, Linnell
                     Vinyl correction
                     Cool in Canada?
                     andy's birthday
                      Welease Bwian!
                     Loss of porpoise
         "Winchester Cathedral" - Grammy Winner!
                    It's All Too Much
                         SSL 4000
                   Andys poetic license
            O & L & assorted spooky ramblings
      Re: Todd's gear from Chalkhills Digest #5-288
                        Re: Shania
                   Q for the gear heads


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Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 23:05:49 EDT
Subject: Re: Then She Appearled

Since I accidentally deleted the last post, I'm doing this from memory,
but I believe it was Harrison who linked Pearl to Then She
Appeared...comments were generally made about the symbolism that reoccurs.

Accurate observation, but I doubt that they are linked on any conscious
level. Seems most artists return to similar imagery time and
again. Doesn't show a lack of imagination, but the subtext lurking beneath
the surface. Or as Mr. Partridge has observed he usually doesn't really
know what his songs are about. The old adage about trusting the art not
the artist usually applies (particularly when it comes to an artist like
John Lennon. Lennon seemed to sometimes be the worst judge of his best
material. Andy seems to occasionally be off target as well).

Then again, sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.

Let's see--I've decided to bite the bullet as well. March 18, 1960 (bonus
points on the XTC connection with my birth date. It's a pretty easy one).

I have to second the Brian Wilson comments. The guy is still pretty darn
sharp in concert.  Squeeze has their good shows and bad shows like any
other band. Part of what influences their performance is who happens to be
in the line up. I've thought they should pack it in for a while and
recharge their batteries. While the strike by XTC wasn't what the fans (or
the band wanted) it allowed both Andy and Colin to refocus their energy
and come back with one of their best albums.

One quick comment (seems I always make this promise, oh well) about Sir
Paul.  While some of his latest albums have been pretty good (Flaming Pie
had its moments and Run Devil Run is one of the best he's made in over a
decade), it seems that Sir Paul needs a strong hand to guide his musical
rudder (better be careful with those metaphors). Mr. Partridge would seem
a reasonable choice.

A tangent--I've wondered if Andy (with his interest in contemporary
classical music) would consider doing something similar to McCartney's
Working Classical. There's more than enough material stuffed in Sir
Andy's(well one can hope) musical hope chest.

Something for Mark Strijbos--(or anybody that can answer this) what's the
deal with Jules Verne, Bull, etc., and Andy's reluctance to release these
on CD? Seems to me that Cooking Vinyl (or TVT) could do a limited run of
these and sell them via their websites. I'm sure most fans would
appreciate having cleaned up and remixed versions (and perhaps it would
sell enough to cover the cost).

By the way kudos to everyone all around on this list. Having recently
retired from the Church list I found very little in the way of intelligent
conversation (I have to admit I didn't stick around for long, so perhaps I
didn't give it a fair chance). Then again, the Church do tour so most of
the conversation focused on their tour dates, song lists, "they rocked"
kind of comments, etc.



Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 21:20:19 -0700
From: "May O'Mahoney" <>
Subject: I Check 'F' In The Box For Sex....

>Wazza: Why is it most men love Laurel and Hardy but women
>can't stand them?

Oh, dear.  It's bad enough that someone mistook me for a man in a
previous posting, "That May, whoever HE or SHE is......"

?????!!!!!!!!!!!????????  I'm starting to get a complex here.  This is
the third time someone has questioned my gender!

When was May ever a man's name?????  Please someone fill me in if there
is something I'm missing!

(Peering down her shirt.)  Yup, I'm still a girl.

Now, back to the point of my post.  I LOVE Laurel and Hardy!

And I'm a girl!  I swear!
Help me out oh yee someone of my same gender!  Please help me dispell
the myth that women are humorless saps bent on romantic flicks!

And now for a bit of XTC Content.  I was just listening to 'The Compact
XTC - Singles 1978-1985' and believe it or not, I had never heard, 'Life
Begins At The Hop'.  What a wonderful song.  Could anyone tell me what
album that song so gloriously spun off of?

Another one for you:
Harrison firmly and humorously disputed my suggestion that the lyric in
'Respectable Street' is 'A vow lady' and that it is, instead, 'Avon

Any help here?

I'm sure I could find out if I just got off my @ss and looked at a
discography, but I like getting my information from my dear Chalkies.
It's so much more personal.

Yours In Womanhood,

- May


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 22:03:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Hewitt <>
Subject: more stuff..........

The old groups from yesterday.  I remember missing so
many tours thinking
they would be around forever...  God I was wrong.

Tell me about it!  Groups I missed cause I was broke
and figured I'd catch them next time:  The English
Beat,  The Jam, Flipper,  Crowded House, Miles Davis,
Sugar, REM (yes, I know they're still around, but I
missed them when they were really good-Reckoning era.
Passed them up to see John Irving read, so it wasn't
all bad). I HAD tickets to see XTC, but that tour was
cancelled after Andy's "breakdown".
This list is boring.  I haven't gotten worked up
enough about anything
to post in weeks.  Everyone just hates everyone else,
including me.
Boring, boring, boring.

God! Talk about boring posts!

Just seeing opinions, but to me, Fly On The Wall, out
of every other song,
seems like the only song I would not know was XTC if I
hadn't heard it and
known it was. What do you all think?

I think 'Cross Wires' is my choice. Maybe 'Dying'.
Is that a real product? Great name if it is.

By the way, I'm not vegetarian, but haven't eaten red
meat in over twelve years. Coulden't ever give up
cheese.  As bad for you as it is, I love it! A good,
aged extra-sharp cheddar is one of my favorite things.


Simpsons/XTC songs-
I too appear to have too much time on my hands. Here's
a few I thought of-a couple of them are rather obscure
Simpson's charecters.  And, some of them are a bit of
a stretch, but what the Hell?

Helicopter-Artie Pye (Your Pye in the Sky)
Sgt. Rock-McBain
Scissor Man-Radioactive Man
Hold Me My Daddy-Maggie
Another Satellite-Lurlene Lumpkin
Battery Brides-Patty and/or Selma
My Weapon-Sideshow Bob
Braniac's Daughter-Lisa
Your Dictionary-Kirk VanHouten (Milhouse's dad)


Message-ID: <>
From: Pete Williams <>
Subject: what's the difference
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:15:47 +0100


Does anyone know how I tell the difference between the Ford CVH 1.6 engine
block as fitted to European Escorts and Fiestas circa 1990 and the American
'tall block' CVH 1.9 engine block - the difference has to be detectable
with the engine in a car. I've heard varying opinions - some say that the
block is taller and that I can simply measure the distance between bell
housing and cylinder head on a 1.6 engine and mine and then simply know if
I've got a 1.6 or a 1.9.

My daughters gerbils have been with us for over 3 years now, I think
they're getting a bit old, but they still seem fairly active. Every now and
then one will run round his little wheel, stop, and then run some
more. Sometimes he runs everso fast, stops, and nearly ends up going over
the top as the wheel is still moving. Must be the gerbil equivalent of a
roller coaster ride.

Isn't it really annoying when the weather is great all during the week
whilst you're at work and then as soon as the weekend comes it rains
consistently until Sunday night. Even more annoying is that the weather
does the same thing for the next 3 weeks.

and the XTC content of this message : "I like XTC"


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 09:43:28 +0100
Subject: What's This Ear Then??

In 5-297 Martin Monkman promised:

> if someone can just tell me what a "shell likes" is, I'll be happy <

A 'shell like' is an ear, so 'shell likes' are presumably ears (although I
have to say that I've never heard the plural used, and rarely ever heard
the term used out of the context of the phrase 'a word in your shell like')

and the Devil Man rapped:

> Heaven 17 (that must have got at least one smile:) <

Indeed-y. I love 'Penthouse & Pavement' and some of what followed wasn't
too shabby either - but then I enjoy the early Human League stuff too,
especially 'Reproduction'

and Andrew Gowans proposed, WRT Pink Floyd's 'A Nice Pair':

> Check it out for the various visual puns from the guys and gals at
Hipgnosis <

One or two of which might be considered to be a little near the knuckle in
these politically correct times (a nip in the air, anyone??)

Oh, and on the subject of favourite lyricists I'd like to add the following
to the mix (whilst echoing earlier support for our lads, obviously):

Roy Harper (probably the only artist that I'd place above XTC if you
actually tied me down and insisted that I rank the music that I listen to)

Billy Bragg (one of the few artists who can actually make an overtly
political statement whilst still sounding good)

plus honourable mentions for Linton Kwesi Johnson, Paul Heaton
(Housemartins/Beautiful South), Patti Smith and Peter Perrett (The Only

Cheers, Steve


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 08:01:17 -0500
From: Peter Mullin <>
Subject: Re: Fly

Old Scratch posted (regarding "Fly on the Wall"):

> It just sounds nothing like anything else they have done.  It also sounds
>like 15 years ahead of its time.  >Almost like a complete different group.
>What do you all think?

Personally, I think you could take "Fly on the Wall", "Officer Blue", "Too
Many Cooks in the Kitchen", and "Love at First Sight", groove them on to a
10" vinyl platter, and have yourself a nifty little "Epic Nu-Disk" EP bang
out of 1980.  Something sort of Klark Kent-ish...

Peter "I can't think of a clever pseudonym" Mullin

P.S.  Another great lyricist almost nobody's heard of: David Thomas (at
least for most of his work; I won't argue about "My Hat")


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:37:21 -0400
From: Ben Gott/Loquacious Music <>
Organization: Loquacious Music
Subject: Guster, Linnell


So, I haven't been keeping up with Chalkhills for various reasons (not the
least of which is that I've been beaten up by midterms), but I thought I'd
give a few shout outs.  Sorry if I'm repeating something someone else has
already said.

First, I'm sure that John Linnell's "State Songs" has been mentioned on the
list, but I want to echo the (I'm sure) positive comments.  It's fun, the
songs are quite catchy (especially "Montana" and the song about my state!),
and I like the concept.  So, there.  Does anyone know if Linnell's solo
stint means that TMBG is breaking up?  Or what?

Secondly, Guster's new album ("Lost and Gone Forever") is a fucking *gem*.
Steve Lillywhite produced, which gives the album "gem" status in and of
itself, but these fresh fellows from Boston have themselves made a really
nice record.  All of the drums are played by hand (i.e., no drumsticks),
which gives the songs a really nice, earthy feeling (sorta like the
drumming on "Apple Venus," actually!)  They also use a manual typewriter
for percussion (Lillywhite's idea?  Maybe!), and generally layer on the
percussive stuff (shaker, tambourines, etc.) which I happen to like very
much.  Check it out -- especially the first track, "What You Wish For,"
which is catchier than anything...

I love XTC, too!


     Benjamin Gott . Loquacious Music . Brunswick, ME 04011
AOL: Plan4Nigel . Telephone (207) 721-5366 . Mobile (207) 798-1859
  Anything is hard to find / When you will not open your eyes...


Subject: Vinyl correction
Message-Id: <0006800016535790000002L002*@MHS>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:00:11 +0200

Hi Hillers,

I may have made a slight mistake in my post re. "AV1" and "Homespun" vinyl
in #297:

>Both albums are available CD and LP from POPLIFE in Germany,
>cost just DM 24.90 (plus 6.90 P&P in Germany/Europe), e-mail
>at, you can pay by credit card so that even
>our USA/CDN/AUS/NZ friends can order.

Having now looked more closely at the Poplife order form, it seems they may
not take credit cards after all.  Direct transfers and Eurocheques are no
problem, so European orders should be easy.  If you want to order from
outside of Europe, I think it would be wise to clarify the payment mode

Also, "AV1" in vinyl now costs DM 29.90.

I will be in the USA in November, so if you can't find a solution, you can
get in touch with me off list -- maybe we can work something out.

Sorry if I caused any confusion.

- Jeff


Message-ID: <>
From: "Johnson, Tom" <>
Subject: Belew
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 11:56:14 -0700

>BTW, Adrian Belew and XTC are fans of each other, and have met....

Really?  I mean, I figured Belew had to be a fan, because he's just so into
this type of music.  I would *love* to see Belew fill some space on any XTC
track with his own truly amazing guitar work.  I can hear it now . . .

Anyone looking for a recommendation on Belew albums wouldn't go to far wrong
with any of these:

Here - very Beatles-esque
Op Zop Too Wah - schizofrantic, but lovely and expansive.  Many nods to Roy
Orbison, the Beatles, and        many more.
Salad Days - a wonderful acoustic compilation.
Coming Attractions - a preview "best-of" of his upcoming work.

I'm a huge fan of 80's and later King Crimson (probably because of Belew's
humorous lyrics) and I can see many KC fans being XTC fans.  King Crimson's
"touch guitarist" Trey Gunn has stated a great love of XTC as well.



Message-Id: <s819c506.057@OAG.STATE.TX.US>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 15:53:10 -0600
From: "Steve Oleson" <Steve.Oleson@OAG.STATE.TX.US>
Subject: Cool in Canada?

In C-hills #5-291 CR Coolidge (essentially) said that XTC was "cool in
Canada". Sounds like the death knell for XTC to me! They are now,
officially, not cool!
Steve "Yee-Haw" Oleson
Austin (goldurnit) Texas


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 14:40:15 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Hewitt <>
Subject: por-POIZE

So I was... noticing how in "Across This Antheap",
Andy sings about "spending millions to learn to speak
porpoise", pronouncing the last word por-POIZE.  I was
wondering if... Andy was just using a little poetic
license for the sake of rhyme.

Actually, in that song he was referring to a specific
species of porpoise, which is indeed pronounced
por-POIZE. Interesting thing about them is that this
species has a very long umbil-I-cal...


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 15:32:34 -0700
Subject: andy's birthday

>Has anyone gotten any feedback from the talking heads at VH1?
>Of course I'm referring to the XTC/Behind The Music campaign...

i wrote in, but didn't even have hopes for a form rejection letter. if
we'd all breathe in and blow away the smoke... new show, they might have
a new show.
* --------------------------------
dane wrote:
>Perhaps there aren't many fans of Fishbone on this list...

i love fishbone! up until "give a monkey a brain..." they lost me after
that. unfortunately the only time i ever saw them was at a lollapalooza
fest, and their entire set consisted of a sloppy, 25-minute version of
'everyday sunshine.'
* --------------------------------
november 11 is andy's birthday. it would be nice if we could all send
him a happy b-day message or maybe all pitch and get him up a little
something. soooooo.... here's my top-10 list of suggestions for a gift
for andy's 48th birthday:

1. cuff-links shaped like dice
2. "the internet for dummies"
3. a 6th-generation cassette tape of xtc demos
4. rubber sharks
5. a floatie-pen where the girl's bikini drops off
6. a wall-size keyboard finger chart
7. an SSL 4000 "G"
8. superman comics
9. we all jump out of a cake and yell "surprise!"
10. richard branson's head on a tray

that'll do,


Message-ID: <130CB597E04ED211B2A400104B93AAC47DF6F8@ESCORP1>
From: "Wiencek, Dan" <>
Subject: Welease Bwian!
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 17:52:28 -0500

I take as my text for today:

> >Brian Wilson is God
> >Mike Love is the Anti-Christ
> Amen, my brother!! More and more, I look at old footage of the Beach Boys,
> and Mike Love creeps me out there, too. I think the impression stems from
> several things. A) He's not playing an instrument, like the other guys. B)
> He looks distinctly older than the other guys. C) He's blatantly hamming
> it
> up and hogging the spotlight (wow, foreshadowing!).  D)"Smarmy" comes to
> mind... and E) He looks hunchbacked. Not that I'm making a blanket
> statement about hunchbacks here... Mike Love just did not look like he
> belonged in the Beach Boys at the time.

Here's what Brian had to say recently about the whole "Mike Love is evil"
thing. (Interview from All-Music magazine,

Q: Hard-core Brian Wilson fans tend to view Mike as the villain. In the film
preceding the concert, whenever your mom came on the screen, there was
cheering . . .
A: . . . and when Mike came on, there was booing, I know. I think that's
silly. People are being silly. Nobody boos Mike Love, he's one of the best
singers in the whole world. How can you boo him?
Q: I guess people feel that he took advantage of you in some ways.
A: Well, even if he did, I still think booing is inappropriate.

Now, the LAST thing I want to do is defend Mike Love: Not only is he
strange-looking, terrifyingly conservative, a ham, and completely lacking in
the ability to know when to leave well enough alone, but his stubborness and
middle-brow tastes had a tragic effect on Brian's creativity and mental
state.  Even a little support from him could have been enough to help Brian
finish Smile.  I could never understand how he, or anyone else, could have
listened to the Pet Sounds tracks and NOT fallen at Brian's feet in
dumbstruck awe, instead peevishly complaining that the songs were too weird
and no one would like them.  And I entirely failed to understand how he
could bitch about everyone adoring his cousin's genius while, at the same
time, shirking him of credit for producing a number-one hit himself ... to
wit, the ghastly excresence of "Kokomo."

So I thought about it.  And I realized it simply comes down to this: Mike
Love is an entertainer, pure and simple.  He gives people what they want, or
rather he tries to.  A good record for him is a record that people like and
that, therefore, sells a lot of copies.  He thought that Pet Sounds was too
far a departure from the Beach Boys' formula, and he was right; Pet Sounds
sold poorly compared to the band's previous work.  That it was a stunning
advance in Brian's art was, for him, beside the point; what did innovation
matter if nobody liked it?

Again, I really don't mean to defend Love per se, as I do find his continued
re-exhumation of the Beach Boys carcass personally offensive--it'd be
different if he'd written at least a FEW of the songs he keeps degrading
night after night--but I balk at calling him malicious or cruel because I
just don't know enough about what really went on; I don't think anyone does.
Every account of the Beach Boys' career I read turns into a cartoon where
Brian is the victim and the Beach Boys are the Four Evil Bastards, and I
personally don't believe anything is that simple.  But everyone wants to
bend over backwards for him: "Sure his keyboard wasn't plugged in, and sure,
his backup singers hit most of the high notes for him, but come on -- it's
Brian!  At least he was there!"  When people are willing to make those kind
of excuses for an artist, you're not going to get anything like a
disinterested view of what really happened.

Anyway, and on a completely different note, Danielle asked:

> Also, I've seen it mentioned on this list that O&L tends to be either
> loved or hated and is rarely cited as one of their better albums.  I'm
> mostly interested in the opinions of those who don't really like the
> album so much, as I happen to love it and would like to know what some
> people dislike about it so much.  You can reply to me in private if you
> wish.

Well, I'm sure Matt Kaden will be happy to tell you all about Oranges and
Lemons. :-)  I personally love it, so I probably couldn't tell you anything
you don't already know.

Back to the rabbit hole,



Message-ID: <>
Date: 29 Oct 99 16:09:08 PDT
From: vee tube <>
Subject: Somnabulist

         Yeah, I know!

    It's SOMNABULIST! OK!?!?!

So where's your XTC/Halloween treat?

  Don't even tempt me to do the...

 ...Legend of Winky Hallow!


P.S. seen any rooks lately?


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 19:42:56 -0400
From: Rob Hill <>
Subject: Loss of porpoise

Danielle Gaither sez:

>So I was listening to O&L today and was noticing how in "Across This
>Antheap", Andy sings about "spending millions to learn to speak
>porpoise", pronouncing the last word por-POIZE.  I was wondering if that
>was the standard British pronunciation of the word or if Andy was just
>using a little poetic license for the sake of rhyme.

Well, Andy's the same fella who a baker's dozen years back wrapped his
lips around "um-bil-IKE-al," so I reckon "por-POIZE" is another such
tongular venture.

>Also, I've seen it mentioned on this list that O&L tends to be either
>loved or hated and is rarely cited as one of their better albums.

Yeah, in retrospect the album is a bit flamboyant, so I understand some
folks animosity towards it. Personally I love the dense production. I
enjoy ramming on the headphones & detecting new bits of instrumentation
which I swear wasn't there on previous listening. And I tell ya, there's
nothing like driving along with O&L in the tape deck to cheer you out of
a sour mood.

And while I have the floor, does Adrian Belew guest on the new NIN
album? I believe I overheard a fledgling rumour that he does.



Message-ID: <>
From: Wes Hanks <>
Subject: "Winchester Cathedral" - Grammy Winner!
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 18:32:55 -0700

Committee Members,

Ok, can anyone educate us as to how releases get nominated for
consideration for a Grammy? I've sensed an almost under the breath
whisperings that AV1 could stand a chance of getting a nomination. How do
we get behind the lobbying? Anyone? Anyone?

Please no discussions on how the Grammys are a total load of rubbish...we
all already know that. I simply want some widespread recognition as to how
truly amazing this album is.



Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 21:58:17 -0400
From: Mark & Barb Kirk <>
Subject: It's All Too Much

I may have been sleeping, but I haven't noticed if anyone has mentioned The
Church's new album 'A Box of Birds'... I've had it for a few weeks now, and
I think it would appeal to most of you Chalkfolk out there. It's a covers
album, and it's a good one... The Beatles (It's All Too Much), Neil Young
(Cortez the Killer), Mott the Hoople / David Bowie (All the young Dudes),
Ultravox (Hiroshima Mon Amour), Sensational Alex Harvey Band (The Faith
Healer), hell... even The Monkees (The Porpoise Song, which I've always
Also a cover of 'Silver Machine', and at this point I shall prove my
ignorance and pose the question: "Who did this originally?"
I have XTC's 'Silver Sewing Machines' from the Complete Drunk Tank
Sessions, and that's the first time I heard the song (and I always thought
I was some kind of psychedelic connoisseur, more fool me).
At any rate, if you haven't got it yet... get it now!

~Mark Kirk~


Message-ID: <>
Date: 29 Oct 99 20:05:24 PDT
From: vee tube <>
Subject: SSL 4000

                  Dear Dom,

    We (fish-heads from the water-less planet)
 have also experienced not dissimilar complications
involving the SSL 4000. We think you may have a plasmatic
  discharge situation prohibiting proper operation of the
                 field condenser

         This would (D'uh) instigate a degenerative
 AXUAL-F/G  prohibitication overload! You should stop!


 This is not only a serious situation, It borders on the
infinite regeneration theory of reciprocal De-Resolution
                  (not good)

    We (fish-heads from....) have never been able to resolve
  this predicament. We (F.Hd's) do know of a 'work-a-round'
       BUTT! it only may be utilized on a 68K MAC!

  What you (human from our water planet) need to do is, install
a 0-Ohm Bicarbonated Film resistometor and measure the results!


          If this doesn't help. E-Me off post



Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 00:44:22 EDT
Subject: Andys poetic license

Chalk full o' nuts,
   In regards to Danielles question about "por -poise." I believe it is Andy
being clever.
 He also uses it in "Season Cycles" on Skylarking, changing "Umbilical" to
"Um -bil -LYcal" to rhyme with cycle.
 Listened to "Mummer" for the first time in two years yesterday. Man o Man,
is "Me & the Wind " an excellent song or what?
  And finally , just to stir some juices, I  saw Natalie Merchant on
Letterman. I just dont get it. Is she supposed to be good?
  Night  Night,    Roger


Message-ID: <>
From: "rob allen" <>
Subject: O & L & assorted spooky ramblings
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 01:28:12 PDT

Well, to me, "Oranges & Lemons" is easily one of my fave XTC releases.
I love it all, especially "One Of the Millions", "Chalkhills & Children",
"Across This Antheap" and "Mayor Of Simpleton". I can't think of any other
band who could even come close to making a CD this tuneful, humorous and
SMART (without cramming it down your throat). Way underrated in my book. But
then again, their whole catalog is pretty much taken for granted... unless
your a musician or a "Chalkhillian". Maybe in 100 years when we're all dust
they'll receive that long overdue acclaim. Sad.

In my last note I asked if anybody had any thoughts on the new releases of
High Llamas & Stereolab. Add to that the latest from Canada's Sloan.
Worthwhile bands, I assure you.

Carson, Ca


Message-ID: <000f01bf229b$3edb54e0$e84e97d0@t17fw>
From: "Simon Deane/Gina Chong" <>
Subject: Re: Todd's gear from Chalkhills Digest #5-288
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 13:54:34 +0800

Todd, I had another look at Digest #5-288 and I couldn't help noticing the

<S.O.T.A .CFM 750 Main Monitors (Powered by Bryston and Crown)>

I happen to be on the look out for one of those. As you own 750 of them, any
chance of us arranging some kind of trade. I've been "monitoring" ebay for
just this very item and they are very few and far between and when they do
crop up some bastard keeps on outbidding me.
Simon Deane
PS Has anyone noticed the "tick tocking" at the end of "I Can't Own Her" on
Apple Venus vol. 1? Any views on its meaning as it doesn't seem to be a
necessary addition to fade out of the song.


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Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 20:53:04 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Re: Shania

>1) shiner train apparently _co-writes_ her pap, er, um, (sorry) pop songs
>with her husband/producer, robert john "mutt" lange. not that i'm an expert
>on her music, but i read it in rolling stone magazine, so you just _know_
>it's gotta be true!
>2) that's dead lepper, not deaf shepherd! :-)
>just thought you might wanna know...
> davidoh

  I wasn't really sure whether she co-wrote with her husband or not, so I
took a wild guess and wasn't interested enough in her to find out if I was
right. She shore is purty though.
  Dead leper! That's brilliant! I got to remember that.(that is one p,
though, in leper)How about the Dreadful Grate, for that matter?

Christopher R. Coolidge

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Date: Sat, 30 Oct 1999 18:44:16 EDT
Subject: Q for the gear heads


I'm about to set aside the cheap-assed acoustic I've been playing for the
last 5 years and purchase a new(or old)one that is a dramatic improvement.
I've got about a grand to spend & am looking for some sugestions.  I do not
like Ovations...every one I've played has a very thin sound to it.  Help me
out here folks....what's the best deal for the money?



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