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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 298

                 Friday, 29 October 1999

Today's Topics:

                Various and sun-dry topics
                    RE: POOR SKELETON
                  VH1 re-reminder, etc.
              clever twist on XTC lyric here
                      Belew me down!
                         Re: zzz.
                     Way Back When...
                      generation Gap
         If it Walks Like One...Talks Like One...
                 More Jolly Jingle Bells
                        Gear? Fab!
                     The Sugarplastic
              It came off in my hand, honest
          Re: Dreaming Sugarplastic Casting Milk
                    Re: 'twas a dreary
                    A Moon In The Hand
                        Questions
                       Brian Wilson

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Message-Id: <l03130300b43df77995d6@[63.25.69.129]>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:59:28 -0400
From: MinerWerks <dminer@gte.net>
Subject: Various and sun-dry topics

In the last digest I read (#5-296) Mark Strijbos said, in reference to the
highly sought-after _Eleven Different Animals_ songbook:

>There's this library, not far from my home that has a copy in its
>music collection...
>i must admit that i have been seriously tempted to snatch it,
>but stealing a book from a public library goes against everything i
>believe in. Damn these principles!

Oh, the damage you may have done! This reminds me of the time I informed my
esteemed college radio colleague that our station had a vinyl copy of the
extremely rare Too Much Joy LP _Green Eggs and Crack_. I was much too
honest to pilfer the disc, but evidently a friend of the other DJ wasn't.
So then *nobody* was able to enjoy the album anymore. Well, except for the
dishonest dweeb who stole it. To be honest though, I *would* have stole the
record after they switched our format over to all jazz and we all found out
the program director was selling off the music library to used CD shops.

And in that last digest I read this too, from Brian:

>I had the opportunity to see Boingo three times before they went
>bye-bye, and they ruled, truly they did.
>The last time was at a cozy little venue in St. Pete Florida,  called
>Jannus Landing, which is a courtyard surrounded by buildings smack in
>the middle of downtown. Great concert spot.
>I was all of eight feet away from Elfman during the whole show, and was
>wearing a T-shirt I had made for the show. Being in the front is a
>double-edged sword, as during the tune 'Sweat' a mosh pit opened up two
>layers of people behind me, and I was literally crunched up against the
>front black spray-painted plywood wall the security types huddled
>behind. But I still have that shirt and it's black stain from the wall
>as a momento.

Sounds like my first They Might Be Giants concert at Jannus Landing, except
it was an acquaintance who wore a shirt specially made for the show. And
the crowd did more pressing to the front *waiting* for the band to go on. I
learned not to leave the venue too quickly that night. The guy with the
handmade shirt got it autographed.  All I got was impatient waiting for the
other guys to come out, which then got me pissed, becasuse they got
autographs and I didn't.

To follow up on some other comments I read on the Giants and their
attitudes... It seems pretty established that the Johns can be rude. John
Flansburgh often hangs around to sign autographs for fans leaving their
shows, but it seems rather mechanical. There was a stint where he *didn't*
do this. I had to see them at least four times before I caught another show
where he signed. John Linnell, from all accounts, is very shy and I don't
think he likes being in public at all. I did a phone interview with him
once, and I got the impression he didn't feel comfortable talking about the
band, either (plus, I'm positive I asked some questions he's been asked
hundreds of times). He was agreeable, but his answers were short and not
very descriptive. He said "Birdhouse In Your Soul" was a minor hit in
Israel, and I couldn't tell if he was kidding. I've heard stories about
them similar to those written here, and I've come to the conclusion that
I'll always like the music the Giants make, but I'd never want to hang out
with them.

Which seques rather nicely, nicely Jane into a comment rob allen wrote:

>Who would I like to meet?
>
>Well, the other night I saw Brian Wilson live at the Wiltern Theatre in
>L.A.. I was blown away. He is my all-time favourite. If anybody was there
>you can back me up when I say that it was awe inspiring. Downright
>spiritual. Anybody else catch any of his solo tour?
>
>He deserved a standing ovation just for being alive. But he and his ace band
>(including members of SoCal's Wondermints) delivered the goods & then some.
>Perfect mix of hits & relative obscurities. Lots of industry type people
>(cocky/cell phones/all knowing, etc.....) were in tears. Yes, it was BRIAN
>WILSON.
>And Brian is back. For real.

I was all ready to spew some jealous, mean epithets at rob, but then I
realized that would just be rude and unpleasant. I should just say
"Congratulations!" to his good fortune to have seen Brian Wilson in concert
while I, an isolated peninsula dweller in the southeast, will probably not
get to see him. We get so gypped in Florida. Depending on my schedule, I
would go a good distance to see Brian Wilson in concert. In my current
situation, that would only be as far as New Orleans or Atlanta, though.

>Brian Wilson is God
>Mike Love is the Anti-Christ

Amen, my brother!! More and more, I look at old footage of the Beach Boys,
and Mike Love creeps me out there, too. I think the impression stems from
several things. A) He's not playing an instrument, like the other guys. B)
He looks distinctly older than the other guys. C) He's blatantly hamming it
up and hogging the spotlight (wow, foreshadowing!).  D)"Smarmy" comes to
mind... and E) He looks hunchbacked. Not that I'm making a blanket
statement about hunchbacks here... Mike Love just did not look like he
belonged in the Beach Boys at the time.

I almost had enough stuff there for a top ten list!

Lastly, Kerry Chicoine updates us on the status of the XTC fan tribute...

>There's room for at least two or three more songs, so if anyone
>else would like to contribute, what better time than now?

Are there any XTC songs I can play with only d-e-f#-g-a (on one octave)?
Failing that, I'd be willing to phone in some thigh-slapping percussion on
a cover of "I'd Like That." Any takers?

= Derek "Smarmy" Miner =

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From: unna@worldmailer.com
Date: 28 Oct 1999 07:11:24 -0700
Message-ID: <19991028141124.21800.cpmta@c008.sfo.cp.net>
Subject: RE: POOR SKELETON

I awoke to thunder heralding the light that slashed the night sky. To go
from a deep sleep to a state of hyper-alert pop-quizzed my resting heart,
and my hands grew clammy with empathy.
As the adrenaline subsided I became aware of an oddly luminous glow
sneaking under my closed bedroom door. I had to investigate.
I crept from cozy warmth, careful of creaky boards. I soundlessly opened
the door to see a light pulsating from my computer monitor. This was a
surprise because I made sure to turn if off knowing an electrical storm was
on the way. Yet, the monitor was clearly glowing. As I moved before the
lighted panel I could read the message it bore - "ChalkhillsFinalVolume".
Strangely, instead of the usual happiness I felt with the arrival of a
Chalkhills, I now felt as if an icy finger had traced the length of my
spine.
I shook off the ridiculous sensation as I opened the e-mail. Immediately I
gasped at the gory new color scheme, a blood-red background surrounded
toxic-green text. I scrolled down to be enticed by the clever titles, but
was surprised again to find that this issue contained only one post,

RE:POOR SKELETON

The storm raged outside as I began to descend the page. I read the words
"Poor skeleton steps out" as a hand from behind closed around my neck! The
strength was unbelievable, and as darkness softly filled my vision I heard
the phantom croon "all flesh be gone"!

Happy Halloween, Chalkers!

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 09:56:18 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id: <199910281656.JAA05499@mail2.deltanet.com>
From: Brown <mb2@deltanet.com>
Subject: VH1 re-reminder, etc.

Cheerio, pip, pip, and what not, y'all!

Has anyone gotten any feedback from the talking heads at VH1?  Of course I'm
referring to the XTC/Behind The Music campaign... to refresh your memory,
send ANOTHER request to:

VH1POSTAL@aol.com
or-
go to their website and click on SHOWS

PLEASE give it another shot...we can make this happen!

On to other things, like the ET lyric thread that was initiated by Tejas
Jill O......'If we all breathe in and blow away the smoke'... in keeping
with the lush nature theme of the song, I'd say that this line means we
should all be more like..trees..you know, breathing in carbon dioxide and
exhaling oxygen...lessening our impact on Mother Earth...giving back to her,
instead of taking from her?...well, maybe I've been spending too much time
in an unventilated room, but it's a thought....

I also have an Oingo Boingo story...the year was 1979-there was this
hunkpappa I fancied, and I wanted to go out with him...but where to
go...hmmmm....I looked in the newspaper and read that 'The Mystic Knights of
The Oingo Boingo' were going to be playing at the Whiskey-a-go-go in
Hollywood...well I am ashamed to admit this, but I chose to go see them
because I dug the name (never heard their music, at this point)...so we went
to the Whiskey...sat close to the stage..not as close as the other fellow
(Mr. 5 ft. away)...still, we were within 10 ft. of Danny Elfman's leering
face....and what a show....they rocked the casbah, indeed.... needless to
say I became a fan...the hunkpappa?  turns out the worm was engaged....anyway...

and speaking of The Talking Heads.. to the coquettish Melissa 'who looks
like Tina Weymouth', I say la-tee-da, young missy!  People are always
telling ME I look like Margaret Thatcher..but you don't hear ME bragging
about it...SHEESH...

and finally, a few of my favorite lyricists:

Frank Zappa (I too, was beaten to the punch)
Joni Mitchell (Court and Spark is my current favorite of Ms. Mitchell's)
John Hiatt
Pete Townsend (for Quadrophenia-it still invades my soul each time I hear it)
Andy (don't call me Keith) Partridge
and many more, I'm sure...I just can't recall them at the moment...

Sorry to ramble, but thanks for listening...

Flapping with both wings,

Debora 'I'm a goil, damn it' Brown

* -----------------------------------
"To stop the flow of music would be like the stopping of time itself,
incredible and inconceivable."-Aaron Copeland-
* --------------------------------------

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Message-ID: <001601bf2165$ea6711a0$c5dd868b@GaryHooper>
From: "Gary Hooper" <hooperg@bigpond.com>
Subject: clever twist on XTC lyric here
Date: Fri, 29 Oct 1999 02:58:35 +1000

Put something funny here,

I've only been on-list since #274 (this month - christ it seems like longer)
but I have to say how much I love it. I really look forward to receiving my
emails & hope another digest is there each time I open my email. I once
thought I was a great XTC fan , but I've now discovered I'm piss-poor. Of
course this is comparative, and I'd like to assure those recent XTC converts
that the list is for everyone, and not only those who also have that rare
Mongolian 4-track demo of "Cockpit Dance Mixture". If you've come on board
because you loved "Apple Venus Vol. 1" : WELCOME ! You'll be welcomed with
open arms & hopefully steered towards the older albums, and other
sympathetic music.

I have to say that some of the discussions lately have led me to re-evaluate
my commitment, and I currently have on order: Rag & Bone Buffet, Explode
Together,  Skylarking (OK, I've got the vinyl), and Homespun. I might not
have done so, had I not been a subscriber, and read the recent postings.

Songs I'm currently unable to get out of my head:
"Closing Time" : Semisonic
"That Voice Again" : Peter Gabriel
"Central Reservation (Then Again Version)" : Beth Orton

When I posted my (pitiful, inadequate) instruments list I neglected to
mention an item :
I have  a (I think Hondo Brand - don't laugh yet) - Guitar : "Chiquota -
Travel Guitar". Unremarkable (or worse) you may think - EXCEPT that it is an
exact copy of the guitar that Nigel Tufnel plays in the scene in Spinal Tap
where they emerge from the plastic  "eggs" during "Rock & Roll Creation" in
"Spinal Tap"...................except it's the wrong colour.......
Looks great hanging on the wall.....prick of a thing to play.....

Gary "simple lines intertwining" Hooper

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Message-ID: <19991028173227.68117.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "rob allen" <prefab11@hotmail.com>
Subject: Belew me down!
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 10:32:27 PDT

There's a killer song on Adrian Belew's "Here" CD called "I See You". AB
manages to sound like the Beatles circa 65-66. It features the best John
Lennon imitation I've ever heard.... yes, better than the Duke's
"Kaleidoscope" or "Mole". Also, some wicked backwards guitar.

Saw the Japanese "Homespun" for $33.99. Guess I'll buy it if it's still
available when I've got the dough.

Anybody heard the latest releases from the High Llamas or Stereolab? I'm a
fan of both acts.

Rob
Carson, Ca

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:13:40 -0500
Subject: Re: zzz.
From: William Loring <bloring@tirerack.com>
Message-ID: <B43DFC84.ADA%bloring@tirerack.com>

> Chris Desmond writes:

> This list is boring.  I haven't gotten worked up enough about anything
> to post in weeks.  Everyone just hates everyone else, including me.
> Boring, boring, boring.

Well, this ought to get everyone started again.

Wind 'em up, and watch 'em flame!

Regards,

William (I'm not so bored) Loring

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Message-Id: <s818335d.010@tcwgroup.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:28:01 -0700
From: "Dane Pereslete" <peresd@tcwgroup.com>
Subject: Way Back When...

Martin Monkman asked:
>Now, if someone can just tell me what a "shell likes" is, I'll be happy.

Wasn't that what records were made of before the appearance of vinyl?

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Message-Id: <v04210105b43e486cb921@[129.105.37.210]>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:41:35 -0500
From: Olof Hellman <hellman@ksan.ms.nwu.edu>
Subject: generation Gap

  Megan Heller wrote

(*that* reminds me of my father's overhearing two teenage girls in
a record store in the late 70s  -- one didn't know who the Beatles
were, and the other said, "Oh, that was the guy from Wings' first band." ).

But I like the story about the schoolgirl interviewing Ringo Starr
for the school newspaper asking " So what did you do _before_ you
were narrator for 'Thomas the Tank Engine' ? "

To which he replied   "I was in a band."

- Olof

Olof Hellman
Northwestern University,  Dept. Materials Science & Engineering

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Message-Id: <s818370f.082@tcwgroup.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 11:43:40 -0700
From: "Dane Pereslete" <peresd@tcwgroup.com>
Subject: If it Walks Like One...Talks Like One...

God, anything to keep my mind off of work...

I put ES on for a spin at work today, and does anybody remember
the intro of Song Stories?  You know, the part where the witless
executive shouts derogatory comments regarding the chalkhorse?

Well, kiddies let me tell you this.  Not that I'm defending the above
mentioned moron, but maybe too many hours of watching the
twisted animation style of "Duckman" has warped my sensibility...

If you keep in mind the image of the duckman's head while
simltaneously gazing at the chalkhorse cover of ES, slowly rotate
the image 90 degrees counter-clockwise, and focus on the region
of the chalkhorse head.

Now can you see what he was possibly referring to?

*-------------------------------------------------------
Logging in from beautiful Glendale, CA  USA
"Waiting for AV2"
daneperes@aol.com  -or-  bramage64@aol.com
*-------------------------------------------------------

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Message-Id: <s8183e05.097@tcwgroup.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 12:13:12 -0700
From: "Dane Pereslete" <peresd@tcwgroup.com>
Subject: More Jolly Jingle Bells

Sorry to keep flogging what by now is a dying horse...

Perhaps there aren't many fans of Fishbone on this list,
but I feel these songs have been sadly overlooked and I
must absolutely reccommend them for your holiday
listening pain/pleasure.

Circa 1990-or-so they released a glorious EP titled
"It's a Wonderful Life" (after the Capra movie, of course).
The movie, thanks to repeated television screenings, has
become somewhat of a holiday staple here in America.
Fishbone's tribute beautifully provides a three minute movie
summary.  Absolutely brilliant IMO, and puts the boogie in
yo butt, to boot!

Also noteworthy are the rest of the cuts: "Just Call me Scrooge"
(great fonk'n tune), and the deliciously twisted "Slick Nick".

If you can still find these, give 'em a listen...I dare you!

*-------------------------------------------------------
Logging in from beautiful Glendale, CA  USA
"Waiting for AV2"
daneperes@aol.com  -or-  bramage64@aol.com
*-------------------------------------------------------

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Message-ID: <130CB597E04ED211B2A400104B93AAC47DF6EE@ESCORP1>
From: "Wiencek, Dan" <dwiencek@crateandbarrel.com>
Subject: Gear? Fab!
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 14:29:15 -0500

Dom wrote:

> I take it all back - musical equipment is very interesting.....and while
> we're on the subject.....
>
> Todd - do you have any advice on how to successfully de-link my SSL 4000
> "G"
> from the plasma metering unit? I've tried several times (following all the
> extraordinarily helpful gibberish in the manual) but keep ending up with
> the
> Axual F/G switch flicking off at some inopportune moment (usually just
> before the middle eight!)......any ideas?

Ah, I see your mistake.  You have to connect the plasma conduit first to the
primary intercooling vents, then shunt the excess through the EPS power taps
running behind the matter/antimatter containment pods.  That will then allow
you to reconfigure ... er ...

... wrong list.  Sorry.

And as I'm not really on the subject of gear, I'll digress completely to
mention that I recently isolated a one-bar snippet of River of Orchids
("bum-BUM") to use as my system alert here on the ol' Mac G3.  A coworker
recognized it (though he didn't remember it was XTC 'til I reminded him)
and opined that it was "a great song," with which I humbly agreed.  In any
event, it got me thinking that other Mac users out there might care to
share the joy, so if anyone wants it, e-mail me and I'll pass it along.
Sorry, Mac users only, unless you have a utility that converts System 7
sounds to WAVs.

Oh yeah, also working (fitfully) on an Apple Venus Kaleidoscope scheme ...
damn, those things are HARD.  Anyone interested in helping out, let me
know.

Dan W.

"And only a numbskull thinks he knows things about things he knows nothing
about!"

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Message-ID: <001a01bf2180$4017df20$53601e18@we.mediaone.net>
From: "Drew MacDonald" <drewmacdonald@mediaone.net>
Subject: The Sugarplastic
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 13:08:49 -0700

In Digest #5-297, Travis Schulz asked about the Sugarplastic. I'm sure they
must have been discussed here before in times past -- since the XTC
influence in their music is so strong -- but newer Chalkhillbillies may be
unfamiliar with the charming pop of this Los Angeles trio. That should
change, since anyone who likes XTC will find something to like about the
Sugarplastic.

So, briefly:

There are two full-length CDs, now cut-outs, neither of them unfamiliar to
bargain bin shoppers. (Too bad for the band, good for fans on a budget.)
There's "Radio Jejune" (Sugar Fix 1995) and "Bang! The Earth Is Round"
(Geffen 1996), equally good, in my opinion. Another album has been
completed, but as the band is currently label-less, its release is not
scheduled.

There's a decent fan-run website at  www.avalon.net/~arkham/sugar.html

Attention, LA-area Chalkhillers: The Sugarplastic is playing live this
Saturday (Oct. 30) at Spaceland in Silver Lake.

Check 'em out!

-- Drew

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Message-ID: <D9E6CEC7734AD111BCF70090273C5D674B6800@user8.chemonics.net>
From: Todd Bernhardt <TBernhardt@Chemonics.net>
Subject: It came off in my hand, honest
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 17:42:53 -0400

Hi:

Mark S.aid:
>and you just perpetuated it again, and now _i've_ done it too!<

BINGO. As you said, 'nuff said.

 From Chris:
>This list is boring.  I haven't gotten worked up enough about anything
to post in weeks.  Everyone just hates everyone else, including me.<

Well, you know the remedy for that, don't you? (Hint: CONTRIBUTE SOMETHING.)
But you're right about everyone hating you.

Dom asked:
>Todd - do you have any advice on how to successfully de-link my SSL 4000
"G" from the plasma metering unit? I've tried several times (following all
the extraordinarily helpful gibberish in the manual) but keep ending up
with the Axual F/G switch flicking off at some inopportune moment (usually
just before the middle eight!)......any ideas?<

Whoa! Careful there, my man -- why do you want to de-link it? You'll lose
all the power and functionality that the unit adds to the SSL 4000,
including the ability to render flawed takes irrelevant by allowing you to
step outside the time/space continuum and fix past errors in playing,
recording and mixing, among other things (some of which can be _quite_
amusing). But hey, it's your call.

First of all, you need to be extremely careful as you deflummox the
matter/anti-matter integrator, which of course you must do before de-linking
the plasma metering unit. The deflummoxing procedure is a delicate one;
after all, allowing the matter and anti-matter to come into contact would be
catastrophic, ending life and the universe as we know it. Keeping that in
mind, spread out plenty of newspapers and grab the nearest deflummoxing rod
(I prefer the IMAN Ionizer 2000 flexible sigmoidoscope; for more info,
http://www.ikweb.com/hdh/sigmoid.htm), plugging it in to a 220V outlet. If
you have the optional transformer, as I do, you may patch directly into the
electrical lines outside your home; the neighbors complain a bit about their
flickering lights, but hey, it's not like I do this every day.

Hmmm, you don't think that the difference in voltage between the U.S. and
England will make any difference, do you? Probably not.  Anyway, flick on
the rod and lightly spark the side of the integrator marked "matter" (NOT
"anti-matter" or the neighbors will _really_ get pissed). This will disable
the interruptive capacity of the Axual F/G switch, with the added benefit
that the glow of the electrical arc will reveal a tiny chain lock behind the
plasma metering unit. Gently yank their chain, and the unit should fall into
your hand, assuming you have a free hand to catch it. You should under no
conditions let the unit strike a hard surface. Trust me on this.

Finally, Harrison queried (not that there's anything wrong with that):

>Don't mean to be an old stick in the mud, there, Chucko, but you
wouldn't mind doing a quick serial-number check on that Studer 24?
<snip>
Anyway, old cock, you're welcome to the Studer (it's really *so* three
years ago!); I'm sure you meant to return it and it just slipped your
mind. I have a few dozen reels of 2-inch tape lying around; would you
like them, too? I know how pricey that stuff is, and you with three
mouths to feed. Not to mention the wife & kids.<

Bite me, Sherwood. I've had just about all I can take of your sarcasm. The
divorce papers _clearly_ state that I get the Studer, and you should see
that sucker fly since I upgraded it. Come to think of it, those tapes are
rightly mine, too, so send 'em over, along with the wife & kids. Now.

Even so, "A Studer in The Shed ain't worth Mariah Carey and that chick from
Catatonia in bed."
-- The Misplaced Rede of Wicca, Chapter 7, Verse 11

Todd

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Message-ID: <3818C9ED.EA4576E2@mailorder.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 15:10:53 -0700
From: Kerry Chicoine <kchicoine@mailorder.com>
Organization: American Computer Group
Subject: Re: Dreaming Sugarplastic Casting Milk

Hi all,

I had an incredible dream last night: in a small, non-descript
room, Andy Partridge played some of my favorite xTc songs to an
audience of about 20 people.  He was so enthusiastic! Accompanied
by acoustic guitar, he played 'Blue Beret' and 'Ladybird'; I can't
remember any other songs, but I remember how intense he was during
the performance.  Later, Colin appeared (then he appeared?) and
was *going* to play something, but I awoke before his performance,
a smile as wide as the Montana autumn sky plastered across my
face. I love dreaming of my pop idols!

travis schulz wrote:

> Someone compiled a list of XTC soundalike bands in an
> issue of the Little Express a few years ago, and at
> the top of the list was the band Sugarplastic. Anyone
> here into them? (snip) Any recommendations on their albums and
> songs?

Sugarplastic are, indeed, a quirky-type band based here in Los
Angeles, the most beautiful city in the world.  Personally, I
don't think they sound *that* much like early xTc. I'm only
familiar with their album 'Bang! The Earth is Round' which is a
fine collection of songs, especially the charming 'Polly Brown'.
I'm also lucky to have an advance copy of their forthcoming CD, as
yet untitled to my knowledge; however, it is even less xTc-ish
than 'Bang!'. I'm liking it *very* much, BTW.

Side note: I heard Sugarplastic long before I heard xTc.  I lent a
copy of 'Bang!' to an xTc-loving friend of mine about 4 years ago.
He promptly gave it back to me claiming it was an xTc ripoff.  He
gave me Skylarking, calling it xTc's 'Abbey Road', and thus
introduced me to what has to be the most wonderful and influential
music I've ever heard. So, thanks to Sugarplastic, I found my true
heart in xTc.

Dan wrote:

> here's a line that i've never understood, but it is one of my favorite
> xtc lyrics: (from "humble daisy" on 'nonsvch')
> 'humble daisy,
> cast the milk and coins
> of morning's cash about'
>
> what does it mean?

I think it's a sparkling description of an early-morning,
sunshine-thru-stained-glass feeling. I specifically love the line
which follows: 'I fell down to heaven as you picked me out'. As a
true nature-freak, this line speaks more to me than almost
anything else Andy has ever written.

If these are the pot roasts that every father and son must chew,

Kerry Chicoine
aka Kompost

P.S. Check out my Andy Partridge 'tribute' song entitled 'I'm Not
Fit (to Eat Andy Partridges' Shit)' at
http://www.mp3.com/artists/15/kompost.html

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From: Saints3Den@aol.com
Message-ID: <0.e612d938.254a2919@aol.com>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 18:32:57 EDT
Subject: Re: 'twas a dreary

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Message-Id: <199910282350.TAA12506@nantucket.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:45:16 -0400
Subject: A Moon In The Hand
From: "Diamond" <arnos@nantucket.net>

>Is it possible that this is merely a rejoinder to the cheeky:
>"And I may as well wish for the moon in hand"

Is that the lyric? I thought it was "And I may as well wish for the moon
in vain.

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Message-ID: <3818E45E.35DFD15B@airmail.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:03:42 -0500
From: Danielle Gaither <redips76@airmail.net>
Subject: Questions

So I was listening to O&L today and was noticing how in "Across This
Antheap", Andy sings about "spending millions to learn to speak
porpoise", pronouncing the last word por-POIZE.  I was wondering if that
was the standard British pronunciation of the word or if Andy was just
using a little poetic license for the sake of rhyme.

Also, I've seen it mentioned on this list that O&L tends to be either
loved or hated and is rarely cited as one of their better albums.  I'm
mostly interested in the opinions of those who don't really like the
album so much, as I happen to love it and would like to know what some
people dislike about it so much.  You can reply to me in private if you
wish.

Thanks in advance,
Danielle Gaither

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Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 19:27:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: Misty Shock <mccrtny@scn.org>
Subject: Brian Wilson
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.96.991028191824.3770B-100000@scn>

Jason Brown (also a Chalker), Mike Hernandez (from Costello-l), and I saw
Brian Wilson two Fridays ago, and it was a great show.  The mix of songs
was great, the band was perfect, and Brian was in great spirits.  Brian's
voice was weak at moments, but it was still amazing, if only because his
band was so spot on.  I was saddened to see that Brian's keyboard was not
plugged in and that he needed a teleprompter for the lyrics, but it is so
amazing seeing him there after all he's been through.  Even if the show
hadn't been terrific, it would've been such a pleasure to have the
privilege of seeing him, considering how easy it would be for him not to
be there, due to his personal obstacles.  If only Andy would follow his
lead...  Brian ended the show with "Love and Mercy," and it was absolutely
perfect.  The lyrics of that song seem to encompass so well his unique
point-of-view.  I will never forget that.

Overall, I think I enjoyed the concert even more than the Elvis Costello
concert earlier that year.  A wonderful experience... don't miss it if you
have the opportunity to see this living legend.  The only bad thing about
it was that my boyfriend couldn't be there with us.  But he has 5th-row
seats for the London Costello concert in November!

Misty Shock

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