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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 292

                Thursday, 21 October 1999

Today's Topics:

        MP3s, lyrics, other important (ahem) stuff
                      I'm an idiot.
                         Kidsongs
                 miscellaneous ramblings
        re: "Homespun" -- to own or not to own...
       Homespun albums and the best of the best...
              I order you to like New Order
         A Man! A Plan! A Canal! Andy Partridge!
             Church of Women & Box of Rhythms
                     or are you bald?
                    phantom xtc video
           re: xtc fan tributes AN ANNOUNCEMENT
                   Thank you , Dorothy
           Thanks for the welcome. I'm staying.
                    boing-boing-boingo
             a little song, a little dance...
                oh, no, say it's not true!
                 They Might Be Ungrateful
          six dayglow vodka jellies on the brain
                        Woodentops
     Re: XTC covers....Probably better for the Dukes

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From: ElizaS33@aol.com
Message-ID: <0.effbfaf6.253f5b98@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 13:53:28 EDT
Subject: MP3s, lyrics, other important (ahem) stuff

Hi nice Chalkpeople,

A few comments on recent threads:

Veronica asked about MP3 recommendations. Not that I don't have any,
because I do, but I highly recommend taking a look at www.listen.com. It's
a fairly comprehensive, cross-referenced and reviewed index to downloadable
music, covering the known and the unknown alike (including the useful stuff
on mp3.com), with a not-entirely- useless "sounds like..." feature.

Favorite lyricists: I really can't get it down to 5, but I will anyway. In
no particular order: Andy Prieboy, Jeff McGregor from the Solipsistics,
Randy Newman, Aimee Mann and that Partridge guy.

And speaking of lyricists, some of you may be interested in knowing that
Anton Barbeau has a new CD coming out on Frigidisk in about 2 weeks; check
it out at, oddly enough, www.frigidisk.com.

Cathryn said:

>>I too debated whether to buy homespun as I finally managed to get my
hands on the Demos (thank you Pancho. Are you enjoying the Negro Problem).
<<

Considering events of recent days, I think it might be prudent to mention
that the Negro Problem is a *band*. (and a damn good band at that!)

And on a final note, I must say the coverage of the recent Chalkhills
summit was some of the most entertaining reading I've had in a
while... thanks, folks!

Elizabeth
The Gallery of Indispensable Pop Music
http://homepages.go.com/~popgallery

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Message-Id: <199910201903.PAA13695@mail1.javanet.com>
Subject: I'm an idiot.
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 99 15:04:57 -0500
From: Max Germer <maxindu@javanet.com>

It's taken me a good 12 years, but I've finally aquired the mind-blowing
Dukes of Stratosphere cd. I will now kick myself once an hour for not
having bought it sooner. But it is kind of a nice treat, having a fresh
XTC record to obsess over. Homespun should be on my doorstep tomorrow,
which should carry me until AV2.

Veronica mused:

>Have any of you
>discovered any great indie bands out there with MP3
>files? There's thousands of bands listed at MP3.com,
>but who has time to listen to them all? Any
>suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Please visit http://www.themaggies.com/ and download some of our mp3s. We
thank you for your support!

Max Maggie

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Message-Id: <B195726DB50AD2118E880008C7FAA6FC0141F555@newman.partech.com>
From: Janis VanCourt <Janis_VanCourt@partech.com>
Subject: Kidsongs
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:10:49 -0400

The apparently (ah!) childless Melissa asked for parent/children related
songs other than:

<<Garden of Earthly Delights
Pale and Precious
Holly up on Poppy
Then She Appeared
Pink Thing
Hold Me My Daddy
Making Plans for Nigel
No Thugs in Our House
Angry Young Men
Scissor Man
Toys
This World Over
I Remember the Sun
Earn Enough for Us
Chalkhills and Children
I Can't Own Her
Knights in Shining Karma
the Giant Peach demos

Any more suggestions?>>

Sure: The Last Balloon

Here's what Andy said about this song in the Homespun liner notes:

"It's primarily a sad song, we, who are stained by our bad deeds, our
violence, weapons, vanity, we aren't going to get on board that balloon to
a better place.  It's the young who are.  It's the young who must not make
the same stupid mistakes that we have.  They are the hope.  They must not
listen to us, they must drop us, like ballast,if they are to rise above it
all.  I'm an optimist at heart and feel, even thought it's grey here, that
above and into the future it will be brighter, fresher where my children
are going."

-Janis

PS:  You can still read the rest of the Homespun liner notes at
http://members.aol.com/starlingv/homespun.txt

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From: "Michael D. Myers" <mmyers@telcordia.com>
Message-ID: <85256810.006CF63E.00@notes950.cc.telcordia.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:49:59 -0400
Subject: miscellaneous ramblings

Chalksters and Chalkettes;

Just a few thoughts in no particular order:

- One of my favorite Christmas songs has no been listed yet (and I must
admit that some of the songs mentioned so far are new to me and I'm going
to try to pick them up when I can).  It is "Christmas Must Be Tonight" by
the Band.  It's from the 70's of course and not that well known but the
words and the sentiment are among Robbie Robertson's finest.

- From: Satanas Diablo <thedevil@minister.com>

>I just got Homespun, and I love it.......Homespun should have been
>released first in my opinion.

Excuse me, Mr. "I've Never Lost a Logical Argument in My Life", but
wouldn't you agree that this might be a really, really bad move by a record
company who was trying to publicize and break a ground-breaking release by
a significant, newly-signed band (in fact, there is talk of a Grammy
nomination for AV1).  Don't you think that just maybe, if they released
Homespun first, which is the quintessential hot-off-the-press,
fresh-out-of-the-workshop (shed) sketchbook-quality release of
songs-in-the-making, that it might in fact have died a quick death in the
marketplace?  Since only 20,000 or so copies of Homespun will be sold (and
yeah, I know that's an artificial limit), it's safe to say that almost no
one but hard-core fans would have bought Homespun under the scenario you
describe.  Please recall that this was their first release in *7* years.
However, since we are not arguing about this, just discussing philosophies,
you can rest easy :-)

I am glad you enjoyed it and welcome to the list (really!).

>I have not bought the Transistor Box set yet, thats next.  What
>did everyone think of that?  Is it worth the money?

It all depends upon what other XTC product you own.  2 of the 4 CDs in this
box set were released earlier and are duplicated in this set.  So, if you
own them already, you have to make a decision as to whether you want to lay
out a modest amount of money for 2 new CD's worth of great live and BBC
product.  If you don't, it's a no-brainer.  Suffice it to say that the
sound quality is real good and the performances are energetic and tight;
they were a very, very good live band.  Also, they stretch out a little bit
in places and you get to hear Dave's solos without them being layered into
the mix as some of the studio recordings tend to do.

Peace and music,
Mike

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Message-ID: <380E4D2D.2615@schoollink.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:15:57 -0700
From: Dan Phipps <phipps@schoollink.net>
Organization: CIC
Subject: re: "Homespun" -- to own or not to own...

 From a completist's point of view...

No one's XTC collection would indeed
be complete without the wonderful and
unique "Homespun" disc!!  Having a lot
of XTC boots and demos myself, I heard
things on this collection from Av1 that
*I* don't even have!!

So in two words (or less) --

BUY IT!!!!

(You won't be sorry!)

Peace and Balance --

--
/Dan Phipps <phipps@schoollink.net>

"All we are saying is give peace a chance!"
(John ///o-o\\\ Lennon)

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Message-ID: <388025972.940450865339.JavaMail.root@web04.pub01>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:21:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: Satanas Diablo <thedevil@minister.com>
Subject: Homespun albums and the best of the best...

I'm guessing that the Homespun thing is a rumor.  I just don't believe they
would do that.  AV1 has been out for a while and I don't think its
confusing people at all.

Jumping in Gomorrah has to be my favorite track from GO 2.  I just loved
that track.  I was listening to their new stuff and I really don't think
they changed so much.  I mean yes, there is a significant change, but I
still feel that overall, their sound has many similar qualities.  I loved
the old stuff, as I love the new, so either way, they have continued to
make music the fans would love.  They grew up with us in a way...

Sort of like Boingo.  OH, as for TMBG, Lincoln would have to be my favorite
record.  I mean, going to visit the cow beneath the sea?!  That was
brilliant!

As for the favorite lyricist thing, this is hard for me.  I have so many,
in so many genres of music, but I will have to go with whatever pops into
my head.  Which by the way, I wont mention people like Duke Ellington or
Cab Calloway, to me, artists like that are above favorite lyricist lists.
I mean, they are like the apostles of music sort of thing... I can't do 10,
I will do 20!

10 Favorite Lyricists:

Danny Elfman
Andy Partridge (Colin is GREAT too, but I don't want to fill up this list
with 2 people from the same group!).
John (They Might Be Giants,  I wont even say which one!)
David Lowery (Camper Van Beethoven, Cracker)
Robyn Hitchcock (GOD)
Mark Mothersbaugh (DEVO <Midget... damn, who could think of lyrics like
that?!>)
John Lydon (Sex Pistols, PIL)
Bob Marley (If you don't know...)
Chrissy Hynde (Pretenders)
Mick Jones (BAD, The Clash)
Joe Strummer (The Clash, The Pogues, Solo)
Dale (Missing Persons)
Frank Black (Pixies, Solo)
David Byrne (Talking Heads)
Ivan (Men Without Hats)
Elvis Costello (come on, if he is not on the list then you gotta be crazy!)
Daniel Ash (I did not enjoy the new stuff much, but overall, Love &
Rockets, TOT had some really great stuff.)
Jello Biafra (The outspoken punk himself of Dead Kennedy's.)
Adam Ant. (Just the way he pushed his music with Marco... I don't know, I
just loved it!)
Beck.  Though I am very old (moving on 26) and don't like a lot of the
Pearl Jam aftermath groups, Beck is a great lyricist.

Though I have not heard him in a long ass time, Howard Jones was also
deserving of this list.
(I would like to have Pauline Black <The Selecter> up here, but she did not
write many of the songs she performed so I didn't put her up here, but she
is one of my favorites.)

Worst 1 of all time:
Morrissey (don't hate me please, but after that "stop me I think I've heard
this one before" song, I kept saying that to myself as all the songs became
weak and boring.  Anything before the later stuff and solo stuff was good.).
I love J Marr though, and I enjoyed The The, but Electronic was a big
disappointment.  Though I like the members separately.  Neil deserved this
list also.  I loved PSB!

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From: fheaney@erols.com
Message-ID: <001301bf1b3c$c9e551a0$13df7ad1@default>
Subject: I order you to like New Order
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:43:25 -0400

Dom grumbled:

> I'm sure I'm not the only person who can't stand to listen to Electronic
> due to the appalling way Johnny Marr has pissed away his talent since
> leaving The Smiths. Considering that he was widely acknowledged as THE
> guitarist of his generation, it has always struck me as hugely
> disappointing that he couldn't bring himself to do anything more
> interesting than that sub-New Order drivel, inaudible guitar parts and
> all. What a waste.

But I *like* New Order drivel.  Anyway, "Twisted Tenderness", the new
Electronic, has guitars all over the place -- Marr's finally playing his
damn instrument again, and that's one of the reasons it's such a satisfying
listen.  It's like New Order with more meat on it.  The previous "Raise the
Pressure" had no guitar audible and stank, but the lack of guitar wasn't
the only reason (though it certainly contributed)...it also featured
incredibly faceless songwriting, a real letdown after their first swell
album.

And criminy -- you make one little throwaway "caesura" joke and people jump
down your throat.  Who knew people could get so serious about something as
minor as a usually rhetorical break in the flow of sound in the middle of a
line of verse?  It could've been worse, you know...I shudder at the string
of horrid puns we could've faced after an exhortation to avoid the word
"diaeresis" instead.  (Rimshot.)  Tanka.  Tanka very much.  Take my
amphibrach!  Please!

New purchases: A big wad of Joni Mitchell.  What can I say?  I woke up with
a craving.  "For the Roses" is my favorite so far.  (XTC content: still
waiting for "Homespun".  But apparently it was shipped yesterday.)

-- Francis

"John said to John, 'I think we make a left at the light...there should be
a big crinkle, assuming this map is right.'"
   -- They Might Be Giants

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From: BRJohnson1@aol.com
Message-ID: <0.b710971b.253f871d@aol.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 16:59:09 EDT
Subject: A Man! A Plan! A Canal! Andy Partridge!

Here's a fun XTC fact I'd never heard before...

After the US invasion of Panama in early 1990, Manuel Noriega holed up in
the Papal Nuncios's house in Panama City. The US Army's PSYOPS unit from
Ft. Bragg set up loudspeakers on the street and cranked rock-n-roll day and
night in an attempt to smoke him out.

One of the songs played was "The Mayor Of Simpleton."

For a complete list of songs played, check out this recently declassified
NSA document at

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/nsa/DOCUMENT/950206.htm

Brad

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Message-ID: <380E2E29.D57E0122@xpress.es>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:03:37 +0200
From: Imanol Ugarte <ix8494@xpress.es>
Subject: Church of Women & Box of Rhythms

Hi all,

The other day when listenening to "Church of Women" thought to my self :
this amazing-crazy-charming guitar solo should be let as it is in the
final version of  Apple Venus 2 . Maybe Andy consider it as some erratic
improvised part but each time I hear it,
it makes me laugh, I don't know why, but there's some early XTC essence
-whatever it is-on it ,in one word : lovely.

In my last message I wrote Box of Rhythms  instead of Drum Machine,
that's because in Spanish it's called Caja de Ritmos. Another mistake I
did was the Leonard Cohen's album tittle : Songs of Love and Hate
instead of Songs from Love and Hate.

If  it's not too late to repair mistakes...

Regards
Imanol

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Message-ID: <006401bf1b40$9fb724e0$ea548218@we.mediaone.net>
From: "Victor Rocha" <wstsidela@mediaone.net>
Subject: or are you bald?
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:18:12 -0700

still waiting for that list of hair products

Victor Rocha

P.S. was that a tabacco or cherry sunburst gutmaster?

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Message-ID: <19991020215032.95971.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "garret harkawik" <funktaisia@hotmail.com>
Subject: phantom xtc video
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:50:31 EDT

I always forget to ask this when I post something and I finally remembered,
so here it is.  The first time I heard xtc was a few years ago when my
brother downloaded a short 40-second computer animation of a lot of gears
moving.  Why sould you care? Well it featured the song "Towers of London".
After I heard it I was an instant fan.  But anyway, does anyone know who
made this or where I could find it?  I think my brother had it on a disk
somewhere, but he probably threw it out.
* ----------------------------------------------------------------------
Brown <mb2@deltanet.com> mentioned the song "Suzy Snowflake" by Soul
Coughing.  Soul Coughing is one of my favorite bands, but i've never heard
of this song before and I know its not on any of their albums, so does
anyone know where I could find it?  He also mentioned e-mailing vh-1 to try
and get them to make a "Behind The Music" on Xtc.  I think it is everyone's
duty who is a fan of Xtc to e-mail vh-1 right now about this!  If we all
e-mail them a lot maybe they'll do it because there are a lot of people on
this list.  I loved the "Where are they now" segment they did on them, but
they pronounced xtc's name wrong!  In fact, just about every time that i've
heard someone interview them or talk about them on tv or on the radio, they
always pronounce it wrong!  I wonder if this makes Andy or Colin mad?

Garret "s the greatest person to ever live" Harkawik

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Message-ID: <380E4444.FF53B042@autoreverse.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:37:57 -0400
From: Ian C Stewart <ian@autoreverse.net>
Organization: http://www.AUTOreverse.net/
Subject: re: xtc fan tributes AN ANNOUNCEMENT

Hello

well, since there's been some discussion lately about XTC fan tributes I
might as well at least hint about the cat I have in this here bag. See,
it goes like this:

BIZARRE DEPICTION is proud to announce O+L: THE XTC FANS' TRIBUTE TO
'ORANGES AND LEMONS.' All of the tracks have been reserved already and
the assembly process has begun. The fun part (the recording, the
compiling, the mastering) will take place over the next 6-8 months in
various parts of the world. Upon its completion, "O+L" will be
distributed via a website. ORDERS ARE NOT YET BEING ACCEPTED.

In the meantime BIZARRE DEPICTION will be re-releasing all of its XTC
tributes on CD and offering them separately and as a box set. THESE ARE
NOT AVAILABLE YET EITHER. I'm just making conversation at this point.

But since you asked, the confirmed track listing for "O+L" is:

Garden Of Earthly Delights: John Relph
Mayor Of Simpleton: Bob Brainen
King For A Day: Peter Fitzpatrick
Here Comes President Kill Again: Raymond Lilly
The Loving: Daniel Prendiville
Poor Skeleton Steps Out: John Neil
One Of The Millions: Ben Gott
Scarecrow People: Mitch Friedman
Merely A Man: Jim Smart
Cynical Days: The Ian C Stewart
Across This Antheap: Neblung Price
Hold Me My Daddy: Chris Breetveld
Pink thing ("Cosa Rosa"): Franco Turra
Miniature Sun: Saffron Matted Voids (Dave Stafford + Ken Mistove)
Chalkhills And Children: R Stevie Moore

it'll be out in 2000 at some point. It used to take 2 years to put
together a compilation, but I think with this one we're looking at 18
months tops. Ha.

Hopefully between now and then this compilation can find a better, more
suitable name than "O+L." That's a hint.

later,
Ian C Stewart
http://come.to/bizarredepiction

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Message-ID: <000501bf1b4e$4d02ee60$655791d2@p13s574p>
From: "John  Boudreau" <aso1@mocha.ocn.ne.jp>
Subject: Thank you , Dorothy
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 07:55:26 +0900

Dorothy wrote re : logical arguments

>A hate-filled ignoramus is a hate-filled ignoramus.  Some of them call
>themselves XTC fans; some of them call themselves Christians; ...
>But bigotry is *not* representative of XTC, and violence is *not*
>representative of Jesus Christ.
>Just as it would be misleading to say that *XTC fans* slurred Charlie,
>it is misleading to say that *Christians* threatened to bomb that radio
>station.  In both cases, it was ignoramuses.
>People *claiming* to be Christians may have threatened that radio station,

I was wondering if anyone other than I was going to address Satanas' remarks
. Where is all the outrage when somebody on the list makes an off the cuff
comment like " I hope alll you Christians out there won't kill me " ( ref.
to his Satanas alias and " devilish " e-mail address ) . Maybe he was joking
; maybe he wasn't . The point is everybody on this list other than Dorothy
and myself  let it slide . There were dozens who jumped to Charile's defense
with no proof whatsover that people on this list called him racist epithets
; but when his buddy Satanas mocks what he percieves to be Christians
 those who threaten to bomb radio stations and kill people whose name is
Satanas ) ; Dorothy's voice and mine stand alone in outrage .

Sorry all for bringing this up again ;  I just had to get it off my chest .

John in Japan

P.S.  BUY HOMESPUN !

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Message-ID: <19991021004137.22490.rocketmail@web1702.mail.yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 10:41:37 +1000 (EST)
From: Mud Shark <mudshark1944@yahoo.com.au>
Subject: Thanks for the welcome. I'm staying.

First of all, many thanks to those of you (namely
Stephanie, Dunks, Andrew (the ratwhacker?), Iain, Paul
and Greg) who mailed me off-list to welcome me to the
fold. Your cordiality is much appreciated.

Now, to business (cue sounds of glasses being charged):

re : Favourite/Least Favourite Lyricists.

Well, what the hell? This sounds like a bit of fun, so
here's my choices (admittedly, some have been
mentioned before, and I left out Andy Partridge
because we already know about him and I'm limiting
myself to five) :

Favourite :
1. Richard Thompson
2. Neil Young
3. Roger Waters
4. John Hiatt
5. Bob Dylan

Least Favourite :
1. John Farnham
2. the guy from Savage Garden
3. Daniel Johns
4. Van Morrison (everything since about 1980)
5. whoever writes for Shania friggin' Twain (her album
has been #1 in Australia for about eleven years - I
think this would be suitable grounds for emigration,
if I was sure that no other country had heard of her).

Dom Lawson added to the raging football debate :

>>Oh yeah, Up The Hammers! Now that's
football.......<<

Oh yeah? Well, Glasgow Rangers could tear West Ham a
new arse any day of the week! (and my daddy could beat
up your daddy, by the way - let's get in touch to
arrange a time). :)

>>Would anyone like my list of the hair products I
own?<<

Speaking as someone who no longer has any hair, I find
this kind of discussion deeply offensive and
insensitive to the bald community. My cueball noggin
and I await a lavish apology.

 From Megan Heller :

>>hm, to the fellow looking for Xmas music, I always
liked the Bowie/Bing Crosby thing. I know there were a
lot of people who hated it on principle (sell-out,
whatever), but I'm too young to be bothered by that
(it was recorded the year of my birth),<<

AAAAGGGHHHH!! I'm my parents! I'm my parents! Sorry ;
when you get as decrepit as me, you sometimes have a
hard time coming to terms with the fact that the
people born in the 1970s (and 1980s now) are old
enough to vote.

How about this for a new thread? Who's the oldest
Chalkhiller? I hereby submit my birth date as April 1,
1944 (yeah, yeah, April Fool, I've heard it....). Any
advances?

MS

=====
"I rail against God because I was told to stop eating paste in Sunday
school" - P.J.O'Rourke

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Message-Id: <199910210123.VAA20083@nantucket.net>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 21:17:43 -0400
Subject: boing-boing-boingo
From: "Diamond" <arnos@nantucket.net>

Regarding Oingo Boingo (now called Boingo) (formaly the mystic nights of
Oingo Boingo) I have a strange tale (Strange tail) Regarding them in context
with XTC and They Might be giants. Let me start at the begining...

My best friend and I were both RABID They Might Be Giants fans, they were
our favorite band. But then, last december, he found a band called... Oingo
boingo! well, he really seemed to like them. In fact, that week he but FOUR
of thier CD's. Well, I figured if he bought for of thier CD's in one week,
they must be good. So I asked him about it... and he made me promise never
to buy anything by them ever.

Is this strange? He has this... complex, I guesse, that makes him want to
keep everything to himself. He has "denied" me the right to buy anything by
Frank Zappa, Steely Dan, or Stephen King, just to name a few. I have no Idea
Why!!!

At any rate, about a week after he denied me the right to buy an Oingo
Boingo album, (December 18 to be exact) I bought my first XTC album. well,
so far I've heard nothing by Oingo Boingo that beats XTC, so I'm not to
worried.

But still, does my friends actions seem... a little strange to you? He's
always been an extremely neurotical and paranoid person (He looks just like
woody allen when he puts glasses on... another person I'm not allowed to
"Get Into" as he puts it)

He's also tried to make sure I don't get into Oingo Boingo by saying "I'd
never get into XTC"
to which I reply "I don't care!"

I'd love it if he got Into XTC!!!! The More The Merrier.

As of now, he has Oranges and lemons by XTC, which I made him buy. He really
like it, but he doesn't let it show very much.

Anyway, hope you enjoyed or scrolled down before you got to bored.

Kevin P. Warnermont III

AKA Kevin Dimaond
_____________________________________
"No one in the world ever get's what they want, and that is beautiful.
Everybody dies frustrated and sad, and that is beautiful"
           -John Linnell/They Might Be Giants

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Message-ID: <19991021032358.84586.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "Megan Heller" <hellerm@hotmail.com>
Subject: a little song, a little dance...
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:23:55 CDT

oh, whatever.

Paul.Culnane@dcita.gov.au quotes from a review on the other side of the
world--
>8/10.  Cross reference: Phillip Glass, The Beatles, Squeeze.

yikes.  One of these things is not like the other.

(I like Philip Glass, but I never really thought of Glass mixing with
British pop.)

Brown <mb2@deltanet.com> thought--
>Subject: VH1 onslaught

and then Dan Phipps <phipps@schoollink.net> followed with--
>Subject: re: XTC on VH1's "Behind The Music"...

I thought this was funny, since I was just thinking of proposing the same
thing the other night-- specifially when "Thin Lizzy: Behind the Music"
came on.

m.

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Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19991020233257.007039b4@mail.interlog.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:32:57 -0400
From: David Oh <davidoh@interlog.com>
Subject: oh, no, say it's not true!

>From: Lawson Dominic <LawsonD@parliament.uk>
>Hey, I like XTC and Limp Bizkit.

dom, are you serious?!? you like xtc... and you like limp bizkit, too?

you mean that we actually agree on TWO things at the same time?

what is this world coming to?

peace out!

peace: live in it or rest in it

davidoh

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Message-ID: <19991021035408.6153.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "Megan Heller" <hellerm@hotmail.com>
Subject: They Might Be Ungrateful
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 22:54:08 CDT

Tyler Hewitt recounts--
>I met TMBG a few years ago when I was a humble
>employee of a record store in Ann Arbor.
>Unfortunately, they were pretty much pricks. Hasn't
>stopped my liking their music, however. I tried to
>justify their behavior-if I was on tour and exhausted,
>I would probably treat some record store geek/fan
>badly as well.

I have, unfortunately, heard similar stories.  For one, I heard a band that
had toured with them as their backing band talk about how much they hated
TMBG after the experience, to the point that they'd stolen the license
plates off John and John's van out of spite for being treated so badly.

I wasn't sure I bought this story, and then last year a professor of mine,
Adam Potkay, who was the lead singer of the New Jersey-based band SPIRAL
JETTY, told me about their experience touring with them.  He said they were
basically assholes-- something that surprised me since Adam is truly one of
the sweetest men I have ever met with an always-sunny disposition whom I had
never heard say an unkind word about anyone. (I liked him as a person, I
hated taking classes from him-- that cheery stuff will start to drive you
nuts.)

So, I don't know, I think it's a shame that they act like that, but it's
nice to know there are others to counter it (I haven't had the chance to
meet XTC, but it sounds like it's been a good experience for most.  I did
meet Mark Eitzel, formerly of American Music Club, a couple of times, and he
is very friendly.)

m.

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Message-ID: <19991021053459.36650.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "Megan Heller" <hellerm@hotmail.com>
Subject: six dayglow vodka jellies on the brain
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:34:58 CDT

Wes Long (WESnLES@aol.com) shares his cd player lineup--
>Momus 20 Vodka Jellies (thanks Jeffie)

excellent!  a wonderful collection!  very good listening (although the
"grunge" tracks can be a little painful).

>Louis Phillipe A Kiss In The Funhouse (thanks Jeffie)

support Le Grand Magistery!  (this Jeffie obviously has fine taste in music.
  And it's probably someone on here who I have insulted by forgetting.)

>Belle And Sebastian If You're Feeling Sinister

fantastic.

>Kula Shaker Peasants, Pigs & Astronauts

damn it, and then you had to do that.  oh, well, I suppose it can be
forgiven.

travis schulz <xtcisadarngoodband@yahoo.com> inquires--
>   I was on the Martin Newell site "Wildman Of
>Wivenhoe" and read an interview where Martin Newell
>noted his use of an "unused XTC song" entitled Pearl.
>Has anyone here heard this cover originally written by
>Andy P.?

I haven't heard the cover, but I have the original on a tape somewhere...
was it on Jules Verne's Sketchbook?  I can't recall-- a Little Express
penfriend in Vancouver recorded a bunch of stuff for me at once back in
1991, so I can't recall which tape it was...

I have Andy Gibb's "Shadow Dancing" stuck in my head, but as "Shadow
Boxing".  Very bad either way.

m.

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Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19991021000330.00997560@pophost.micron.net>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 00:03:30 -0600
From: Phil Corless <philco@micron.net>
Subject: Woodentops

I just picked up a couple of CDs from the late 80's by the
band The Woodentops.  I don't remember them ever being
mentioned here, so I'll go ahead and do it.  Their music
can best be described as frenetic acousti-pop..... The two
CDs they released are:  "Giant" and "Wooden Footcops
On The Highway".....  I highly recommend both of these,
if you can find them.

Anyone happen to know whatever happened to the Woodentops?
Particularly the lead singer/songwriter Rollo McGinty?  A real
talent.....

Phil Corless
philco@micron.net

Look at our current eBay Auctions!
Hundreds of CDs, all through October:
http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/philkar/

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Message-ID: <19991021090447.24493.rocketmail@web601.yahoomail.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 02:04:47 -0700 (PDT)
From: travis schulz <xtcisadarngoodband@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: XTC covers....Probably better for the Dukes

I just have to join in on this great XTC covers
thread-so much fun we have here on Chalkhills!  I do
an oldies radio program on the weekends, so I scanned
the oldies catalogue I use to write the weekly
playlist. As I'm sure you'll agree, XTC doing oldies
should really be a Dukes reunion...1. The 59th Street
Bridge Song(Feelin' Groovy)- Simon And Garfunkel
(Scarborough Fair would be good too). 2. The Rain,
Park and Other Things- The Cowsills. 3. Surf's Up-
Beach Boys (an expensive track to buy on Ebay I might
add). 4. You're Lost Litte Girl-The Doors. 5. Sunshine
Superman-Donovan. 6. Marrakesh Express-Crosby, Stills
and Nash(maybe a lost b-side from The Big Express?).
7. Playground In My Mind-Clint Holmes (it has the
lyrics.."my name is Micheal and I've got a nickel",
remember that one?) 8. Moondance-Van Morrison (and
Todd Rundgren is back to capture the slick jazzy feel
of "The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul"). 9. Octopus's
Garden-The Beatles (marking the return of Terry, not
only on drums, but on vocals..ha ha ha!) 10. Shapes of
Things-The Yardbirds (a good one for Colin?).
Honorable mentions...Spill The Wine by War (maybe
not), Tighten Up by Archie Bell and the Drells ("ok
Colin, Tighten Up on that bass"...) and Sugar Shack by
Jimmie Glimmer and the Fireballs (and yes Barry is
back for that one).

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