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Subject: Chalkhills Digest #5-291

         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 291

                Wednesday, 20 October 1999

Today's Topics:

                      XTC in Canada
                    Holly Up On Jolly
                   Lazy Susan Revolving
              Re: Chalkhills xTc Tribute CD
                 Rolaids ain't gonna help
                 Nice set of threads, man
                      back catalogue
                   X-Mas and a Apology
           ok, i'll admit it; plus, it's here!
                     In my cd changer
             you're my favorite waste of time
                An XTC song called PEARL?
                      That was a gem
                     McCartney covers
                     Fast 'N Bulbous
                   Re: XTC Cover Album
                     more Xmas tracks
                       Spartan Gear


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Message-Id: <l03130301b432079d9203@[]>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 07:40:58 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: XTC in Canada

>further to my comments about xtc in canada, i'd say that the majority of
>the population just isn't aware of xtc, strictly because xtc receive very,
>very little airplay. radio is the still dominant means for dispensing music
>here (as it surely is elsewhere), but in toronto, with 7 stations playing
>"popular music", two are "easy rock" (celine/mariah/whitney), one is
>"classic/hard" rock (zeppelin/doors/aerosmith), one is "modern rock"
>(pumpkins/bush/nin) while the remaining three compete for
>middle-of-the-road listeners (phil collins/sarah mclaughlin/ricky martin).
>so, where do you see xtc fitting in on these play lists? it wouldn't matter
>if xtc would fit in (they do, imo), there just seems to be no interest from
>any of the programming directors. it seems the only place where xtc are
>played publicly is over the supermarket "muzak". it ain't weird to like
>xtc, it's a privilege.

  I first heard XTC in Canada, when they played Nigel on CHOM-FM quite a
lot the summer I graduated from high school. I wrote them off as another
one of those herky-jerky Devo wannabes and didn't pay any further
attention, I was of the opinion that anything played on commercial radio
must be crap. How wrong I was in this case. I finally got hooked a couple
of years later by a friend in college who indoctrinated me with Black Sea.
  XTC's always been more popular in Canada than the rest of the world.
Drums And Wires actually went gold, as I'm pretty sure English Settlement,
Skylarking, and Oranges And Lemons did too.

Christopher R. Coolidge

Homepage at


Message-Id: <>
Subject: Holly Up On Jolly
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 99 18:42:46 -0400
From: Constantine Pappas <>

Hi folks, been a while, but I thought I'd pop in real quick, even though
I've yet to read the 200 or so Chalkhills that came out since AV1 was
released.  Here are a couple of Christmas songs you may want to include
on your list:

1)  Christmas In Suburbia (Martin Newell)

     This is probably my favorite MN song, and what's more, Andy produced
it, along with the rest of the 'Greatest Living Englishman' CD.  A bit
depressing, but hey.

2)  Happy Christmas (War is Over) - (John Lennon)

     Great song, in spite of Yoko's presence.

3)  Wonderful Christmastime (Paul McCartney & Wings)

     Not his best tune by a long shot, but it's cheery and kind of fun.

4)  Charlie Brown Christmas Soundtrack (Vince Guaraldi)

     This is the only Christmas Album anyone really needs.  The
instrumental version of 'Christmastime is Here' is worth the CD price

5)  Always Winter, Never Christmas ()

     Fun song, not really a Christmas tune, but the word Christmas is in
there all over the place, and that should count for something.

6)  Little Saint Nick (Beach Boys)

     Fun Christmas song, California Style.

Well, that's all for now.  See you in another 6 months or so.

Waiting for AV2,

Constantine Pappas


Message-Id: <v03102808b43267417d5d@[]>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 15:10:05 -0700
From: Richard Pedretti-Allen <>
Subject: Lazy Susan Revolving

Andy called me again on Monday the 18th!  Sheesh, what a pest!  I wish this
guy would stop bugging me!  Doesn't he have better things to do?!

Ahem...  Kidding.  Totally kidding.

Actually, the reason he called was to convey some new lyrics.

Becki diGregorio had acquired a demo of a song called "Susan Revolving"
which was originally passed over as a potential Dukes song.  The demo was
just Andy playing acoustic guitar & singing and the song wasn't finished...
it just... sort of... stops.

Considering that the song was never released, it is not covered by BMI or
ASCAP.  Therefore, Becki asked if I would get permission from Andy to cover
the song.  After expressing his amazement over how far some of his
cast-offs and odd demos have travelled, Andy then remembered that it wasn't
even finished.

He said that Becki can cover the song but that he wanted to finish it
first.  He then asked if I'd send him the lyrics from the demo!  I did and
he replied back killing one verse and adding two more.

Becki is working on her new recording.  It's going slowly but she is quite
pleased with the results thus far.  With the exception of covering (the new
and improved) Susan Revolving, there is no other planned XTC or ex-XTC

For those who don't know, Becki's first CD, "seven worthies of the bamboo
grove" features Andy Partridge on a bit of "knob-twiddling" and Dave
Gregory on acoustic guitar, electric guitar and keyboards on three songs.

For more info, contact Becki at or visit her website at:



Message-ID: <>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:40:56 -0700
From: Kerry Chicoine <>
Organization: American Computer Group
Subject: Re: Chalkhills xTc Tribute CD

Julia B. Brown <> wrote:

> Since there are so many of us musicians out there, has anyone
> brought up the idea of putting together another fan tribute?

Hi Fellow Chalkhillians,

I'd really like a shot at organizing an xTc Chalkhills CD.  I'm
fairly new to the list and am unaware of any prior CD's that may
or may not have been realized (I haven't checked the archives,
silly me). However, I was involved in a similar project about a
year ago on another pop music discussion list and it turned out
great. Here's some proposed guidelines:

1) The CD will be limited to 74 minutes of music, so first come,
first reserved. Anything with reasonable sound quality will be
accepted.  So, come on you bedroom Brian Wilsons! Give it your
best shot. Note: I want the exclusive right to submit my own
version of either Humble Daisy or Mermaid Smiled!

2) Email me with the xTc song (and its length) you'd like to

3) Once I have sufficient commitments for a full CD, submitting
artists will send me a their xTc cover song on CD (preferably) or
cassette, along with a blank *audio* CD-R. I'll dub the final
product onto this blank *audio* CD-R and return it to you, the
artist. Also, I'd like some info and perhaps a picture of you/your
band for inclusion in the CD booklet (such as it will be). I'd
like all submissions in by, say, late January of next year (the
holidaze approacheth!).

4) Final versions of the CD will be made available to
non-contributing members of Chalkhills for a reasonable fee. Due
to possible time and budget constraints, this may turn into a
*very* limited run.  I'd like to think that this CD could be fully
completed by April 1, 2000.

I'm more than willing to do this if you are! Please email me
off-list if you're interested in helping me make this happen.
Also, anyone who'd like to help me with the CD booklet (maybe with
design, but mostly duplication and assembly), please feel free to
volunteer! I live in the most beautiful city in the world, Los
Angeles, so any LA-area Chalkies, email me if you like.

Again, I've got dibs on either Humble Daisy or Mermaid Smiled!!!

BTW, on Ian C. Stewart's excellent Rare/Live xTc website, I was
listening to the boys on a radio station show in Boston and after
one of the songs, the DJ said "That was great!" to which Andy
replied "Great, didn't they?".  I think "Great! Didn't They?"
would be a silly-cool title for this project, but any other
suggestions would be more than welcomed.

Well, I await your email with great anticipation!


Kerry Chicoine
aka Kompost


Message-ID: <004301bf1a89$e00db660$>
From: "Martin & Jamie Monkman" <>
Subject: Rolaids ain't gonna help
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 16:20:22 -0700

The recent spate of postings on the musical equipment possessed by the
poster suggests that many among us suffer from severe GAS (Gear [or Guitar]
Acquisition Syndrome).

Compulsory reading for all is an article by Walter Becker (of Steely Dan
semi-fame and XTC influence; listen to "The World Is Full Of Angry Young
Men" for evidence) which appeared in Guitar Player magazine, but is now
found on-line at the Steely Dan homepage.
There will be a quiz, after the karma-equalization auction.

who, with only one guitar and one bass guitar in his trousers, feels as if
he has a teeny weenie penie.

The Monkman homepage:


Date: 20 Oct 99 10:40:44 AES
Subject: Nice set of threads, man
Message-ID: <>

1)  Xmas songs thread:  you can't go past "I'm Walking Backwards For
Christmas" by The Goons

2)  XtC covering McCartney thread:  I'd like to hear our boys tackle
"Rockestra Theme" (off "Back To The Egg") with the following line-up:  Andy,
gtr, ld vox; Colin, bass, bg vox;
Dave, ld gtr, bg vox; Barry, kbds.  On drums:  Terry Chambers, Pete Phipps,
E.I.E.I. Owen, Prairie Prince, Pat Mastellotto, Dave Mattacks, Chris
Sharrock, Brian Doherty and that new chappie who's doing AV2 with them.  With
the London Session Orchestra.  All double-tracked...

3)  Musical instruments thread: I sold my Burns Bison and Dan Armstrong
see-thru years ago.  That leaves me with a battered cowbell, a single maracca
and a fertile imagination.

Finally, to blow my own french trombone for a bit here (oo-err!), it's well
nigh on a year since I conducted interviews with both Terry Chambers and Andy
Partridge.  I reckon they're still worth a look, especially for new
subscribers to Chalkhills.  If you want to check 'em out, go to The Little
Lighthouse (and say hi to Mark while you're there).  The URLs are:  (Andy)  (Terry)




Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 21:14:36 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ted Harms <>
Subject: back catalogue
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.991019210905.24211F-100000@library>

In #5-288, Richard Pedretti-Allen said there might be legal complications
of releasing Fuzzy Warbles since EMI owns all them thar songs.

Does this mean that Idea is not going to buy up their Virgin/EMI back
catalogue?  It'd probably cost a pretty penny (and probably quite a few
ugly c-notes) but it's always to good to see artists own their own work.

Which is a shame, really.  I could see the luxurious treatment that Elvis
Costello got from Ryko ie., alternate takes, b-sides, digital remastering,
etc., would look good on our lads.

Ted Harms                                       Library, Univ. of Waterloo                            519.888.4567 x3761
"What's real and what's true aren't necessarily the same thing." S.P. Butt


Message-ID: <>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 18:56:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Molly Fanton <>
Subject: X-Mas and a Apology

JP wrote:
<<Cocteau Twins' version of Frosty
the Snowman>>

Wow, how could I forget that song.  I just adore
Elizabeth Frasier's vocals on this song.  Her voice is
so beautiful.  I've been a fan of The Cocteau Twins
for a long time, but I have none of their albums yet.
I know this isn't XTC related, but does anybody have
any recommendations on a good first Cocteau Twins
I would like to apologize for what I said about the
Squeezefan mailing list.  I just left there with a bad
taste in my mouth, but that doesn't give me the right
to badmouth them.  It was my fault that I got myself
in trouble with the Difford/XTC thing, because I
constantly talked about that topic in there, and
people were getting sick of it.  For the most part the
people there were nice, especially the list owner.  So
whoever in Chalkhills that's also in in Squeezefan I'm
sorry for what I said.




Message-ID: <>
Date: 19 Oct 99 19:39:32 PDT
From: vee tube <>
Subject: X(tc)MAS!

              Don't fergit

     All I want for Christmas is My...

           By Dread Zeppelin!

     (Santa has left the building)



Message-Id: <>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:56:35 -0400
From: David Oh <>
Subject: ok, i'll admit it; plus, it's here!

ok, i admit i went over the top when i commented on american football. i
apologize for my harsh remarks concerning the sport, but i don't apologize
for why i was driven to comment on it. this is a list for xtc's music,
first and foremost. my point was, and still is, please stick to the music.

speaking of which, "homespun" was finally released here in canada today
(99-10-19). i now have my copy and i'm enjoying it as i type this. it's my
second time through it today, as i was listening to it on the subway coming
home. i'm going to be listening to it again tomorrow on my way back
downtown. i love it!

peace: live in it or rest in it



Message-ID: <>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 22:06:26 EDT
Subject: In my cd changer

Helium Kidz:

I've got a company car that I usually drive, and I drive my personal car so
infrequently that I often forget what cd's are in my changer....this usually
makes for a pleasant surprise when I finally do drive her again.
Anyway....the following are the discs that were in my car changer today(try
to hide your excitement): (that is NOT a face!, it's a damn colon!)

Elliott Smith XO
Elvis Costello Trust
Jeff Buckley Sketches For My Sweetheart The Drunk (disc 1)
Kula Shaker Peasants, Pigs & Astronauts
Momus 20 Vodka Jellies (thanks Jeffie)
Sunset Valley Boyscout Superhero
Blonde Redhead Fake Can Be Just As Good
Louis Phillipe A Kiss In The Funhouse (thanks Jeffie)
Swervedriver Ejector Seat Reservation
Belle And Sebastian If You're Feeling Sinister

Surprisingly no XTC.......more surprisingly, no MINSTER HILL!!!

Stay tuned for the list of items I found in my floorboard....some of 'em


my XTC trade site; Optimism's Flames


Message-ID: <>
Date: Tue, 19 Oct 1999 23:34:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Hewitt <>
Subject: you're my favorite waste of time

Here I go again, avoiding doing more meaningful stuff
by commenting/repling to other peoples posts:

one of the B-sides was "Ella Guru" (the other was "One
Of The Millions"). I had a look through "Song Stories"
and found that this track was submitted for a Captain
Beefheart tribute album. Was this album ever released?
If so, does anyone have a copy?

Yes, it was released. It's titled 'Fast and Bulbous'.
I don't have a copy.

I don't don't own many instruments, so instead of
listing all the instruments I own, I will make an
equally interesting list of things I can see from
where I am sitting:

Good idea! so will I!

Residents Freak Show CD Rom,

Pencils & pens in a Don Ho highball glass from the
Polynesian Palace in Waikiki

Bunch 'o Zip discs and software cd roms

CalComp writing tablet

stuffed Anpanman toy (Japanese cartoon super hero)

Wallace & Gromit 1999 calander

a wall plaque made from a varnished slice of tree
trunk that reads 'God bless our camper'

Chicago Yellow Pages

Ann Arbor phone book

tickets to the opera (William Bolcom's A view from a
bridge at Chicago's Lyric opera)

stack of XTC demo tapes I've traded for (thanks,

and tons more stuff

Any bands out there with a big sound like XTC on
Nonsuch or AV1.  Can anyone out there write a song
like ROO or omnibus besides Andy?  Please let me know.

Can anyone write a song like Andy?
I'm always confused by people who want other bands to
sound just like XTC. If you want to hear XTC, play
their records! I'm glad there aren't a bunch of pale
imitators out there to spoil it for us.

In regards to your question, I'm guesing you're
looking for intellectually and emotionally stimulating
songs that aren't stuffy, with a rich sound and good
Well, I've recommended this one before on this list,
but you really need to get a copy of Joni Mitchell's
Hejira.  Put aside any preconcieved notions you may
have about her, and just get the damn thing! I
GUARANTEE you won't be disappointed. Exceptional
songwriting (the New York Times doesn't call her one
of the most significant songwriters of the century for
nothing), beautiful voice, excellant arrangements
(Jaco Pastorius' bass sends shivers down my spine).
Score: 9.5 out of 10 (ten being unatainable

Joe Jackson's Heaven & Hell is another must have.
Classical and rock have never blended so seamlessly or
engagingly. Incredible songwriting,  guest appearances
by Jane Siberry, Suzanne Vega and others. Wonderful!

You might also check out Los Lobos' supurb Kiko album.
The songrwiting isnt as stellar as Andy's but it sure
sounds great!


Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 02:12:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: travis schulz <>
Subject: An XTC song called PEARL?

  I was on the Martin Newell site "Wildman Of
Wivenhoe" and read an interview where Martin Newell
noted his use of an "unused XTC song" entitled Pearl.
Has anyone here heard this cover originally written by
Andy P.?


Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:23:36 EDT
Subject: That was a gem

Diamond, that was a gem.

I am an avid collector of XTC parodies - I always love to see them here.

Yours took me back - I first got to know SWO via MTV, and my sister and I
had motions we did during the chorus and everything. One thing we liked to
do was shout out or whisper "Six!" in the pause between "five" and
"senses". You think I was a strange kid, but wait till you hear that I was
at least 14 at this point.

I have been meaning to post my own weirdalifying of this song, but so far I
only have the chorus:

I've got 1-2-3-4-5 Chalkhills issues I'm behind
I'm trying to read them all but I've got . . .

I'll try to flesh that out this weekend. You've thrown down the gauntlet,
so to speak.

Anyone else got some they're hiding? If you don't care to post them for all
to laugh at, at least send it to me so I can laugh at, I mean appreciate,

That's all.

Melissa "senseless working overtime" Reaves


Message-ID: <>
From: "Witter, Karl F" <>
Subject: McCartney covers
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 09:12:30 -0400

Misty mentioned "Why not XTC?" for the upcoming album of
Macca covers. Far and away my favorite song of his solo work
is "My Brave Face". However, I think Elvis Costello would have
dibs on doing that, as he co-wrote it.

>Bad grammer is something up with which I will not put!
Wasn't it "A dangling participle is something..."? Who
said that first, by the way?

Musical instruments owned: Some acoustic guitar missing
varnish on the neck (guilty), and a circa 1964 Guild
Blackstar, a lovely hollow-body with f-holes, in
perpetual puzzlement over its being strung backwards
and tortured.

"Green is the colour*",

*PS Bonus points for anyone who can decipher that.


Message-ID: <002201bf1b02$ac412be0$37dc868b@GaryHooper>
From: "Gary Hooper" <>
Subject: Fast 'N Bulbous
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:53:10 +1000

Salutations, Chalkhillians!

First of all, thank you to all those who responded both personally and on
the list to my request for Xmas songs.
Unfortunately the only new one (besides that Band Aid song!) I've been able
to find in my collection is a live version of "White Xmas" by Stiff Little
Fingers. I've been in touch with MinerWerks privately about his astounding

I probably won't be the only one to respond to Iain's request for info on
the Captain Beefheart tribute album, but here goes:
Title : "Fast 'N Bulbous" (1988) - imaginary Records (UK)
12 tracks - mine's vinyl - dunno if it was issued on CD.
Features XTC "Ella Guru", That Petrol Emotion "Hot Head", Sonic Youth
"Electricity", The Mock Turtles "Big Eyed Beans From Venus" (my favourite)
etc, etc.....need more info? Email me privately.

Musical Insruments I own:
1976 Fender Telecaster Deluxe
Ibanez Bass (black)
crappy Korean or something Acostic/electric 6 string (pickup doesn't work)
Dan Armstrong tube amp
Various pedals, echo unit etc

Musical Instruments I am incompetent on:
All of the above.

I'm interested to hear Minster Hill......

Gary Hooper.


Message-Id: <l03130300b43354e494b0@[]>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 07:44:29 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Re: XTC Cover Album

>if XTC did a cover album, what songs would you like to
>see on them.  The only thing is that it can only be 12
>songs.  I know this is going to be tough for some of
>you, including me, but put your thinking caps on.  If
>you want to you can add The Dukes on a couple of
>Okay, there are my picks, please no flamage (hey, I
>made a new word).
>1.     Baby, Your a Rich Man - The Beatles
>2.     Comfortably Numb - Pink Floyd
>3.     My Generation - The Who
>4.     Avalon - Roxy Music
>5.     I'm Not Your Steppin' Stone - The Monkees
>6.     Good Vibrations - The Beach Boys (the Dukes
>could sing this one)
>7.     All Together Now - The Beatles
>8.     Don't Stop - Fleetwood Mac (with special guest
>vocalist, Christine McVie)
>9.     Bohemian Rhapsady - Queen (Ha, I would love to
>see The Dukes do this song)
>10.    Tommy's Holiday Camp - The Who
>11.    Circle Sky - The Monkees
>12.    The End - The Beatles

  The Beatles and Monkees cuts I can hear XTC doing, but the rest- I dunno.
I try to imagine XTC doing "Bohemian Rhapsody" and it just can't be done,
like having an orgasm during root canal.(hey, unless you're Jack Nicholson
in Roger Corman's Little Shop Of Horrors!)I'd like to see a cover album XTC
might actually do, along the lines of the covers REM used to do to close
their shows. They'd come up with some weird choices that actually worked,
and some that were pretty accurate reflections of their musical
influences(the one time I saw them in '86 they did Billy Preston's "Will It
Go Round In Circles," and Television's "See No Evil." Guess which one
reflected their musical influences. :-)). I'd like to see XTC do an album
of covers like that.
  So Molly had a couple of great ideas:
1. Baby, You're A Rich Man- The Beatles
2. Circle Sky- The Monkees
and I'll add:
3. The Castle- Love
4, I just Wasn't Made For These Times-The Beach Boys(either Dukes or XTC,
Colin singing)
5. My World Fell Down- Saggitarius
6. Autumn Almanac- The Kinks
7.Hold Your Head Up- Argent(Colin singing)
8. Green Tamborine- The Lemon Pipers(Dukes or Fuzzy Warbles)
9. Mary Anne With The Shaky Hands- The Who
10. Eating The Bear- Joan Armatrading(hey, Andy played guitar on her version)
11. Nadir's Big Chance- Peter Hamill
12. Let Love Reside- Kevin Coyne

  I was trying to think of songs XTC themselves might find intriguing
choices, hopefully I succeeded.

Christopher R. Coolidge

Homepage at


Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:49:09 +0200
From: Imanol Ugarte <>
Subject: more Xmas tracks

Hi all,

"Thanks For Christmas" is a good pop song, not soppy at all, I love its
englishsettlementesque 12-string strumming sound.
As to "Countdown to Christmas Party Time"  it's funny , like a
divertimento,  it's just another XTC level,isn't it?

Yes,  I've finally found myself involved in that Christmas songs thread,
so there a few more:

- Christmas Song  (Jethro Tull,1968 -Living in the Past)
- Christmas in Suburbia (Martin Newell,the Gratest Living Englishman,
sorry,has this been already mentioned here?)

   perhaps no particularly on Christmas,but it may help

- Goodbye December (John Mayall- Back to the Roots)
- Shipbuilding  (Elvis Costello-Punch the Clock; yes, I know it's mainly
about Falklands war but...)
- Famous Blue Raincoat  (Leonard Cohen- Songs from Love and Hate)
- (mmmhhh....)

To Chalkhers who are doing some kind of compilation with this: I would
thank private e-mails from you for updates -I've lost the last digests
~~~~~~~~~ --- ...  ..   ..  .   .



Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:49:24 +0200
From: Imanol Ugarte <>
Subject: Spartan Gear

My instrument list is  Spartan, anyway there you have it:

Fender Telecaster DeLuxe -secondhand-Electric Guitar  (since 1983 !)
Spanish guitar
Box of Rhythms Korg DDD5
Yamaha  toy Keyboard
Several percussion instruments

In the PC :
Cool Edit
Lots of  Plug-in terrific effects
Several unused programs (I'm still learning...)

Imanol  - nowadays busy making new mixes from own ancient pop gems,


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