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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 272

               Thursday, 30 September 1999

Today's Topics:

                   Crash! Bang! Wallop!
         Homespun Not Yet Mentioned on TVT's Site
                my sgt. peppers... sort of
just when you thought it was safe to go into the water again...
                     Oh, what a peach
                   King for a day tab ?
                   Pass the mayonnaise
                   Rare stuff for sale
 spam, spam , spam, baked beans, spam, spam, spam & spam
                       Stone Tablet
                 muzak and energy drinks
         Re: Carmen XTC track - Yazbek, TMBG, XTC
              Homespun release in Australia
                         Homespun
                       $5 At CDNow
                       UK Homespun
                     the musk factor
                AVv.1 profile in Deja.com
                   Homespun Has Arrived
                    THREADS AND DEMOS

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Message-ID: <19990923024416.85708.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "Duncan Kimball" <dunks58@hotmail.com>
Subject: Crash! Bang! Wallop!
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 19:44:14 PDT

1. NOISES OFF

Sorry, whoever you are - I can't recall (i.e. too lazy to check) who said
this but, yes, Lilywhite is a great producer (...erm, would Andy choose a
bad one?) 1980 was a great year, having heaved up two Lilywhite masterworks
which are among my all-time faves: "Black Sea" and 'peter gabriel' (III).

[Even though Steve wasn't on it, I always lump in Kate Bush's "Never
For Ever", cos of the synergistic connections (PG worked on Kate's
album, Greggsy played on PG's album...]

But credit where it's due please: hats off to the anonymous boffins who
designed the drum room the The Townhouse, and pants off to Steve's
redoubtable engineer Hugh Padgham. 'Twas he, I believe who came up with the
famous "gated reverb" drum sound which premiered on (was
plastered all over) Peter Gabriel III, and featured prominently on
"Black Sea" too. Our old mucker Collins, P. nicked it straight away of
course, and it became known as "his" sound - to the continuing chagrin of
PG, who was always at pains to acknowledge Hugh as the "inventor".

2. MR HARRISON SHORTWORD EXPLAINS ROCK HISTORY FOR YOU

>I suppose I should go ahead and quote the entirety of #269 back into
>this post ...

Oh please do ...

>>if anyone wants to know, the most important rock performer of the 70s was
>>david bowie.  thanks.  jesse.

>I was rather busy at the time, so I didn't pursue it, but I had >wanted to
>stand up and applaud this admirable observation. Yet, like >a sudden blow
>to the back of the head with a sock full of peyote >buttons,  Jesse's
>assertion raises more questions than it answers.

>Yes, the Man of Average Tastes wants to reply, Yes of course, Bowie was the
>most important rock performer of the Seventies...but *why*?  What did Bowie
>do that others didn't? *That's* where things get interesting!

"Man" of Average Tastes? Hmmm ... I'm surprised at you Harrison.

"Most important"? Maybe - if you were English and white. If you were
English and black it was more likely to be Bob Marley. If you were American
and black it was James Brown or Stevie Wonder, or both. If you were
Australian and white - Skyhooks, most likely. ("Do yourself a favour ...").
I'm not an Objectivist, so for me "Importance" is a completely relative
concept.

<snip> ... how the HELL did we let the 1998 Todd Haynes film "Velvet
>Goldmine" (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0120879) go nearly COMPLETELY
>UNMENTIONED in this forum?

Possibly because it's a laughable load of cringe-inducing cobblers, a
film which Iggy himself has declared he has no desire to see. (Why
would he? He was was there - he was IT.)

<snip ... bla bla bla ...  The Helium Kidz ... bla bla bla ... atom
bomb ... bla bla bla ... secret plan>

>Before Bowie, this never happened.
>After Bowie, this always happens.

No offence, here Hazza - I think you're one smart cookie, and I see
where you're coming from, maaan - but you are SO wrong!

>Bowie was the figure in rock history who plunged the culture into its
>Mannerist phase, who put great big wiggly Quote Marks around the figure of
>the rock star, who encouraged the audience to project its own
>interpretation on the Object--not the music alone, but the whole
>package, the whole visible, audible, sensory-overload David Bowie Thing. Up
>until Bowie, no one had ever successfully played with the *form* of the
>rock star; no one had ever created an *artificial* pop star out of whole
>cloth as a work of art. He introduced the concept >of Metacommentary into
>pop music. Andy Warhol? Silver Screen? Can't >tell 'em apart at all!

Bollocks. Evidence for the prosecution?

EXHIBIT A:
"It was twenty years ago today... " As Sir Macca would be quick to tell you
(while he administers a  Liverpool kiss for your presumption), a 'Mannerist'
stance is one of the main building blocks of "Sgt Peppers" (1967). The whole
point of the album was The Beatles putting quotes around themselves, as
exemplified by the famous cover, showing The Four trapped for eternity in
some kind of tripped-out Fabshrine constructed by the ultimate obsesso-fan,
surrounded by cardboard cutouts of other famous culture heroes and wax
replicas of themselves. No-one could have been more aware of their
meta-status as culture icons, and no-one had more interest in subverting
that.

EXHIBIT B:
Frank Zappa. "You're Probably Wondering Why I'm Here" ('Freak Out',
1967) is as good a place as any to start, but pretty much anything from his
original Mothers will do. Also noteworthy is "We're Only In It For The
Money", his famous piss-take on the Sgt Pepper cover.

EXHIBIT C:
"Hey Hey we're The Monkees...". Go and watch "Head" [1968]. See your
argument for Bowie as "Rock Mannerist" originator get sucked
irresistably down the toilet.

EXHIBIT D:
Ray Davies had been taking this stance in his songwriting for quite
some time and by doing so obviously had a huge influence on Macca and
The Dame. See: "Session Man", "Sunny Afternoon", all of "Village Green" LP,
etc.

EXHIBIT E:
The Dame herself, who fesses up on the "Hunky Dory" cover that she
borrowed industrial quantities of that very "white light, white heat"
which The Velvets had in turn lifted/learned from everyone's favourite
post-modernist (D)Andy Warhol. If anyone invented that stance as
applied to rock, it was Warhol.

Don't get me wrong -I love Glam Rock. Among its many points of
interest/value I would identify that:

- it was good pop music

- it gave the kids who weren't into Yes and Genesis something to do/buy

- it was funny (cf. any photograph of Slade)

- it took the music-hall drag schtick out of the pantos and onto the
rock stage and created a mass-media platform for an amusing game of
gender-role subversion (re: Bowie, Roxy Music cover art etc). The English
seem to have gotten the joke, pretty much - it was basically just a larf,
guvnor - whereas KISS have geelfully ignored the irony and made a career out
of it.

One major problem with "Velvet Goldmine" (for me) is the basically
silly concept of having the Iggy character portrayed by the often
good, cutely laddish, but not-at-all dangerous or threatening Ewan
McGregor, who seriously botted his record with his flagrantly wooden
performance as O-Big-Yawn Kenobi in 'Star Wars I'.

I just don't buy it. Iggy seems in person to be a really nice guy, very
smart, very articulate, etc etc; but at his peak he was also - in marketing
terms - a VERY scary quantity. So much so in fact that he really only
existed by proxy in the mass market. It was only via people like Bowie that
some semblance of the full Iggy danger could be represented. He was tough,
confrontational, uncompromising and totally out there. Bowie was great, but
he was also a cunning showman with an eye on the main chance and a burning
desire to be a Star. At which he succeeded fully. Iggy - arguably more of an
original than The Dame - only achieved some measure of mass success AFTER
Bowie had copped a huge load of his style and sold to us.

Another problem is that no such project can really "get" just what that era
was like, and it will tend to overlook many aspects of how it played out and
percieved. The simple "oddness" (in those staid days) of seeing
working-class lads from Hull and Manchester, dressed up like panto dames
who've been caught in an explosion in a makeup factory, is hard to convey.
That first sight of Roy Wood in the full Wizzarrd get-up is not something
you can really replicate. Nor can you really recapture the frisson of seeing
Bowie at his Ziggy zenith - albeit on film and from a distance, as we here
in Oz had to be content with.

I can (sort of) understand what Haynes might have been driving at, but
it seems to derive from a weird impulse to create a whole movie from
the feeling you got when you first saw Bowie's classic "Jean Genie"
film clip, or Roxy's "Virginia Plain" Top Of The Pops performance - and the
originals capture the sillyness, strangeness and excitement far better
anyway. As for the soundtrack ... well I grew up on that music and I own
pretty much all of those records. It might be a nice intro for the kiddies,
tho. (Must be getting old).

>PS: I have now seen both Iggy Pop's and Ewan MacGregor's weenies.
>PPS: Iggy's still the champ.

I would say "Phwoooarh!", except that I think that certain sociophobic
Kalahari Bushmen are perhaps the only people NOT to have seen Iggy Pop's
dick at some time in the last 30 years.

Yours
Duncan "what the fuck is a sodality anyway?" Kimball

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Message-ID: <002401bf056d$8ca59820$0f3f56d1@susanpav>
From: "Andisheh Nouraee" <mabrey@mindspring.com>
Subject: Homespun Not Yet Mentioned on TVT's Site
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:44:24 -0400

Hopefully someone at TVT Records is monitoring this.  If so, then I kindly
request that you update XTC's page on your site to include some info about
Homespun, such as the CD's cover art and tracklisting.  If you're listening
out there, thanks.

Humbly,
Andisheh

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Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19990922225704.006f550c@mail.interlog.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 22:57:04 -0400
From: David Oh <davidoh@interlog.com>
Subject: my sgt. peppers... sort of

several months back, there was a thread going on about "my sgt. peppers" in
the digest. instead of saying what was "my sgt. peppers", an impossible
task given all of the great albums i have in my collection of 1000+ vinyl
and 300+ cds, i've decided on doing something a slightly different, as is
my wont. this is my list of artists &/or albums that have had the greatest
impact on me. they are listed in the order that i discovered them or, as in
a few cases, when i came to appreciate the artist's body of work.

1. the beatles - everything, especially from "rubber soul" to "abbey road",
but excluding "let it be" - the long & winding bore! modern music starts
here.
2. the who - everything, especially from "tommy" to "quadrophenia", though
excluding "face dances" & "it's hard". "live at leeds", especially in its
expanded form, is the best live album - ever!
3. pink floyd - the david gilmour era, especially from "more" to "wish you
were here".
4. jimi hendrix - an innovator. especially "electric ladyland" & "band of
gypsys".
5. neil young - everything. a true original who plays by his own rules & a
canadian, too!
6. yes -	from "fragile" to "relayer", excluding "tales from topographic
ocean". An honourable mention to "90125".
7. genesis - from "genesis live" to "the lamb lies down on broadway",
nothing after that.
8. david bowie - starting from "ziggy stardust", but excluding "heroes" -
zzzzzzzzzzzzzz!
9. frank zappa -	a genius. everything, especially from "overnite sensation"
to "sheik yerbouti", with my favourite being "one size fits all". also,
check out "zappa's universe", described as "a musical love-fest celebrating
the iconoclast's 50th birthday". it features mike keneally (as bandleader),
steve vai, dweezil zappa, dale bozzio, rockapella, the persuasions & the
orchestra of our times. a great album & an even greater video!
10. brian eno - everything, especially "another green world" & "before &
after science". also the brian eno-david byrne album "my life in the bush
of ghosts".
11. peter gabriel - everything. check out the "secret world live" video -
it gives me chill-bumps.
12. talking heads - everything from "fear of music" but especially "remain
in light".
13. xtc 	my favourite band, naturally. from "drums & wires" to "apple venus
volume 1", especially "oranges & lemons", except "mummer".
14. u2 - everything except "rattle & hum" & "pop".
15. japan - only the album "tin drum".
16. king crimson - especially "discipline". although i do like "in the
court of the crimson king", i'm more partial to the
fripp-bruford-levin-belew incarnation.
17. thomas dolby - everything. in the words of george clinton, mr. p-funk
himself, "he's the funkiest white boy ever born!" also, check out the
harmonica on "europa & the pirate twins", blown by one andrew john
partridge.
18. iggy pop - especially my theme song, "i'm bored - i'm the chairman of
the bored!"
19. red hot chili peppers - from "mother's milk". slamming funk & punk
attitude with a metal edge. flea is a truly great bass player.
20. pearl jam - especially "ten".
21. radiohead - especially "the bends".

the following is my list of favourite musicians for their category of
instrument, in no particular order:

guitar:
david gilmour, jimi hendrix, pete townsend, joe satriani, eric johnson,
stevie ray vaughan, dave navarro, john frusciante, adrian belew, andy
partridge, dave gregory, frank zappa, mike keneally, trevor rabin, the
edge, jonny greenwood, ed o'brien, jeff beck, jimmy page, edward van halen,
ritchie blackmore, johnny marr

bass:
john entwistle, chris squire, flea, tony levin, colin moulding, paul
mccartney, mick karn, patrick o'hearn, mark king, les claypool

drums:
keith moon, bill bruford, simon phillips, phil collins (the early years &
session work only), terry chambers, manu katche, terry bozzio, alan white,
stewart copeland, chad smith

anyone have any questions? anyone have any complaints? anyone have any
objections? if so, release the hounds!

peace & xtc

davidoh

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Message-Id: <3.0.2.32.19990922235414.006f9748@mail.interlog.com>
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 23:54:14 -0400
From: David Oh <davidoh@interlog.com>
Subject: just when you thought it was safe to go into the water again...

>From: Lawson Dominic
>Subject: Iin Llike Fflynt
>Oh dear. In fact, oh ****ing dear. You turn your back for five minutes and
>what happens......?
>>>hiy, my nme is eugene. i hve speech impediment tht i
>will try to render s fithfully s possible by omitting
>the from the following text.
>And how we laughed! Jesus H Corbett, and people have the nerve to say my
posts are off-topic! Pah!
>Seriously though, Eugene Fflynt (a likely story!), shut it! You heard.
>Anyway, on a less oh-look-there's-a-halfwit note, I will be soiling a
couple of parts of America with my mean-spirited and ennervating snotfests
in a couple of weeks' time. From 9th October I will be in Washington DC for
a few days, being pleasured in a most unbecoming manner by that appalling
gobshite Todd Burntarse and assorted Chalkhillian lightweights. If anyone
else is in the area and wants to be taught how to drink properly, feel free
to come along. No pointing and laughing allowed - it's my haircut and I'm
sticking to it.
>Contact Monsieur Derriere-Brulee if you're sad enough to want to meet me &
my girlfriend (who is, naturally, far more civilized than I) and don't tell
him I sent you!
>Cheers!
>Dom.

i see i haven't missed much in my 6 month absence. what makes me laugh the
hardest is that, after taking swipes at "half-wits", "gobshites" &
"assorted chalkhillian lightweights", dom has the gall to salute us all
with a "cheers".
what i can't understand, dom, is if your girlfriend is "far more civilized"
than you, what the hell is she doing with a "mean spirit" like you?

let the games begin!

peace & xtc

davidoh

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Message-ID: <37EA09C8.16575A00@erols.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 07:06:49 -0400
From: Todd and Jennifer Bernhardt <toddjenn@erols.com>
Subject: Oh, what a peach

Hi:

Wayne said:

> Re: James and The Giant Peach--Toy Story's Academy award nominations (plus
> Randy's slightly better "hit single" record) contributed to Andy's tunes
> getting the boot. From What I understand the folks at Disney were afraid that
> the public also wouldn't get Andy's tunes.

Close, but not quite right. Disney wanted them, but Andy turned them down
because of the small amount of money they offered. Here's a snippet from a
1997 interview that relates to James:

TB: I've heard all the James and the Giant Peach songs, and I just thought
they were so great. Being the father of a two-year-old, knowing what a vast
wasteland children's music is nowdays. . .

AP: It is.

TB: . . .I was wondering if there was any reason why you guys couldn't go
into the Shed and, for a very small amount of money, come up with a
children's album that could be very profitable for you and definitely add to
the music that's out there for children. I don't know what the deal is with
the James songs, whether you still own them or whether Disney would jump
down your throat if you tried to use them. . .

AP: At the moment, they're just in limbo. I mean, nothing's been done with
any of them, because they were written specifically for that film. Disney
doesn't own them, because they offered such a pathetic deal -- they wanted
to pay me $30,000 for all four songs, and that's it, for four songs.

TB: [sarcastically] Well you know, Andy, they don't have much money.

AP: They don't have any money, sure, the mouse doesn't earn much. He's only
a mouse.  He should get a proper job.

They wanted to pay $30,000 for all four songs and that's it, no royalties at
all, not on videos or anything. Nothing. Forget it. These negotiations went
on for nearly a year, and then they turned around and said, "Well, we're
going to use Randy Newman in any case." And I thought, "Well fuck me, why
did I waste all my time?" So, yeah, I have four songs about giant peaches
that aren't doing anything.

TB: Well, that's why I was wondering if you could make use of those.

AP: Well, I considered changing the lyrics to "All I Dream of Is a Friend,"
and I'd written up a thing called "The Living Room," but I'm not totally
happy with it. And then somebody pointed out that it sounded a bit like a
song by Spanky and Our Gang, and that really put me off.

TB: Hmm, haven't heard that [song].

AP: I've also tried to rewrite the lyrics to "Everything Will Be Alright,"
which Dave says is our version of "Your Mother Should Know," and I can't get
away from the giant peach lyrics. Each time I try I keep mentally coming
back to them.

TB: Well, the only suggestion I could give for changing lyrics would be "The
Stinking Rich Song," because I used to sing that to my son when I was
changing his diapers, and we called it "The Stinky Poop Song" -- but I don't
think you'd want to go there.

AP: [laughs] No, I still keep catching myself humming "Everything Will Be
Alright," and I'm afraid we're passing up a huge hit single - I don't know.

Anyway, for the rest, check out
http://chalkhills.org/articles/AndyWeb.html

Have _you_ pre-ordered your copy of Homespun?
Todd

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Message-ID: <B9B4268C8F87D11195DC0000F840FABE0D7FEAA3@DUB-MSG-02>
From: Peter Fitzpatrick <peterfit@MICROSOFT.com>
Subject: King for a day tab ?
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 06:07:22 -0700

does anyone have King for A Day in tab (or even chords) ?
(I can only find lyrics on Chalkhills...)

thanks

Peter

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Message-ID: <19990923132032.13659.qmail@www0f.netaddress.usa.net>
Date: 23 Sep 99 06:20:32 PDT
From: Brian Wysolmierski <bwysol@netscape.net>
Subject: Pass the mayonnaise

Wayne said:

"Respectable Street--have to say I love Andy's
  re-recorded vocals on the single version. It shreds the original."

You're entitled to your own opinion, but I despise the Rag & Bone version.
It's painful for me to listen to it.

The "cleaning" of the lyrics is awful, and the singing sounds forced.
Especially when Andy sings, "Bang the walls for them to TURN down."

Ugh... I even hate thinking about it.
Andy's singing sounds much more natural on the original version for me.

Nutritionally Yours,
Wysol

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Message-ID: <37EA4570.309E8497@which.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:21:21 +0100
From: B Blanchard <b.blanchard@which.net>
Subject: Rare stuff for sale

Dear all,

Haven't had time to catch up on the last ten or so Chalkhills but
I am sure you are all writing really useful entertaining stuff as
usual. Like THIS:

XTC content?  You want XTC content?  Try Reckless Records London,
they got LOADS of XTC content.
In Reckless Records (a very wonderful second hand record store)
in Berwick Street, Central London, under X - it would seem some
poor misguided fool has got rid of all their XTC back catalogue.
There's LOADS of stuff there including postcards and stuff.  As I
had everything there (hoho) already I was able to leave well
alone.  But there was quite a lot of rare stuff.
So it's there for you now (as at Thursday 23rd Sept).
Don't email me and ask what it was - I can't remember but there
were a lot of 7 and 12 inch singles as well as those long playing
things.

To all the New Zealand Chalkers, David and I head over in just
over 9 weeks time.
Looking forward to meeting you Simon et al. If you changed your
mind let us know! We shall be entirely uncontactable once we are
there and will phone you if you left your numbers with us before
we arrive (polite like that).
Any other New Zealanders out there we can drop by and say hello
to?
We arrive Auckland 2nd Dec - get a motorcycle each, travel the
country (already booked our ferry tickets for south and back to
north islands) and get back to Auckland about a week or so before
27th Jan to try and sell the bikes before coming home to London.
Happy daze!
BELINDA BLANCHARD

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Message-ID: <19990923163321.21004.rocketmail@web109.yahoomail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:33:21 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tyler Hewitt <tahewitt@yahoo.com>
Subject: spam, spam , spam, baked beans, spam, spam, spam & spam

RE:

Neil Osborne, President - Investit Software Inc.,
>mailto:investit@investit.ca
>(604) 878-1828
>If you wish to be deleted from future e-mails
regarding Investit
Software
>please reply with a message stating Remove and we
will not contact you
>again.

Let's all e-mail bomb this software company... hrumph!
________
Won't work! when you respond to spam it only lets the
company in question know that you are indeed a lving
breathing person, and not another computer. Now, armed
with this info, they can bombard you with messages,
and sell your address to other companies...

I suggest using spamcop (www.spamcop.com) or another
spam reporting service-but beware-some of these are
bogus and are there for the same purpose I stated
above-to find out the real addresses. Spamcop seems to
be on the level, but I guess you can never know.

Tyler
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Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:46:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tom Getter Slack <tgs@telerama.com>
Subject: Stone Tablet
Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.4.02.9909231631230.26526-100000@frogger.telerama.com>

Dear Chalkfriends,

Sorry about the lack of direct XTC content here. This message is a blatant
plug to inform you all of the availability of my just-released CD. Despite
the fact that Dave Gregory did not contribute to it (unfortunately), a
collection of songs from an artist who considers Mssrs. Partridge and
Moulding two of the finest songwriters in the brief history of pop music
may be of interest to some of you.

If you would like to hear some song samples, go to:
http://www.mp3.com/tomgetterslack

If you just want to get info about the CD and/or order it, go to:
http://www.telerama.com/~tgs

Thank you very much and I hope I passed the audition.

Tom

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Message-ID: <19990924020020.26931.rocketmail@web117.yahoomail.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 19:00:20 -0700 (PDT)
From: Veronica Kyle Robertson <veronicakr@yahoo.com>
Subject: muzak and energy drinks

Whilst eating at a horrid family buffet restaurant
last night, I heard "King For A Day" on the Muzak. is
there any way to find out exactly how many XTC songs
have been Muzaked?  Also, someone mentioned the XTC
drink. I bought a can the other day, but it's still
sitting in the fridge. How would you describe the
taste? Is it fruity or is it kind of ginsing-y (blech)
flavored?

"hmm... all this talk about hearing XTC in unexpected
places made meremember
hearing them at the grocery store (Giant, Northern
Virgnia) a few yearsago."
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From: nmcgrath@world.std.com
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 22:33:37 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Carmen XTC track - Yazbek, TMBG, XTC
Message-ID: <Pine.SGI.3.95.990923222934.22947C-100000@world.std.com>

In Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 271, Jeremy Mathews <nsps@usa.net>
said:

> Also on the disc are Johnny Nextor and His Neighbors and Three
> Brave Woodsmen (w/ Greg Lee)
>
FYI, "Johnny Nexdor" is Sean Altman, and Three Brave Woodsmen is Altman,
Yazbek & Billy Straus.

Nancy McGrath

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Message-Id: <199909240437.PAA19542@hydra.au.oracle.com>
Date: 24 Sep 99 14:40:57 +1000
From: "Adam Davies" <AJDAVIES@au.oracle.com>
Subject: Homespun release in Australia

I sent this to John but he ain't in the office.  Damn.

Found an Aus music site that said Homespun will be in stores on Oct 5th, and
that AV2 is currently being recorded in Swindon with Nick Davis as producer.

This may be old news to all of you, but I don't get to read the digest these
days.  Anyway...

Adam

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Message-ID: <19990925013514.11907.qmail@www0f.netaddress.usa.net>
Date: 24 Sep 99 18:35:13 PDT
From: vee tube <veetube@netscape.net>
Subject: Homespun

  Went to CD world today (9-24-99) to get the
Oct. I.C.E and Bill said..
 .
... IMPORT! HOMESPUN! (Jap) I looked at it ($30)
and politely said "I read on the 'Hill' that the
TVT (Domestic [YEAH] CD) will be out in 10 days.

  I guess you collectors might be interested (2 CDs
AV.1. and Demo disc) But I can wait. So's I's goes
back to woik and I looks trew da I.C.E. And there's
a 1/4 page ad from TVT that says...
....HOMESPUN, in stores every where Oct.5!

    Cool eh?

  Is it just me (in a haze) or does it seem like
AV.1. came out about 3 weeks ago? In either case,
between the import and the ad it looks like we're
good to go.

     Nuttin'but'Luv     }---:)

P.S. Jeffie,Thanx for the info.

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Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 13:25:50 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Martin van Rappard <rappard@dds.nl>
Subject: $5 At CDNow
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.90.990925132106.2445H-100000@fatima.dds.nl>

This probably has been posted before, but some people might have missed
it - via the following link you can get $5 off at CDNow (minimum order $25,
though), and Homespun costs $12.49, which is probably cheaper than most
stores sell it for.

http://p01.com/r.d?YkGqi5dsmnM=cdnow/from=reb:x:cdn:bk2922

And I agree with everyone who recommended The Flaming Lips' "Soft
Bulletin" - amazing stuff indeed. Another recommendation, in the same vein:
Folk Implosion's "One Part Lullaby".

Martin

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From: "Darren A. Peace" <dpeace@bigfoot.com>
Subject: UK Homespun
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:16:00 +0100
Message-ID: <000301bf08d1$78151d60$79cc989e@suspiria>

Having just seen the single CD on sale in the Bracknell MVC Emporium (for
#8.99), I wondered if there was any news on the UK release of the double CD,
as this is the one I want.

Is it to be released, or should I seek further afield?  Like somewhere
foreign?

Thanks,

Darren

(who, having recently returned from San Francisco, without the "Greenman"
promo CD he expressly hoped to find, whether for $1.00 or not!  Has anyone
got a copy or two they'd like to sell/exchange?)

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From: unna@worldmailer.com
Date: 27 Sep 1999 07:32:30 -0700
Message-ID: <19990927143230.9387.cpmta@c008.sfo.cp.net>
Subject: the musk factor

Call me crazy, you wouldn't be the first, but one of the things I love most
about xtc is what they don't do! So many male vocalists season their
performance with what I'll call the "musk factor". By this I mean that they
add something to their inflection or tone quality that suggests their own
sexual prowess or sensuality. It gets on my nerves because it's such a cheap
ploy. Plus, it detracts from the musicianship of the piece by calling
attention to the individual as a sexual entity. I don't think I'm a prude,
despite what all of those degenerate perverts may say. (just kidding about
the perverts...)

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From: STakesh@aol.com
Message-ID: <35cfb7c3.2521a9b9@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 01:18:49 EDT
Subject: AVv.1 profile in Deja.com

Hi, everyone,

There is a consumers' review profile of AVv1 on the review site Deja.com:

http://www.deja.com/channels/channel.xp?CID=11885

They've logged almost 150 reviews so far (although only the ten most recent
are accessible), for an overall profile of 3.4 out of 5, with separate
categories
for singing, playing, songwriting, & beat.

Stephanie T.

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From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:00:48 +0200
Subject: Homespun Has Arrived
Message-Id: <19990928200016.CE105A6CE0@mail.knoware.nl>

Dear Chalkers,

Homespun has hit the (Dutch) shops!

Apparently it was already released here last week, and i've got a
copy right here in front of me. In two words: an essential purchase.
(no, that's three words..) In three words: every fan should get one!

The packaging is of course dead gourgeous again and designed by
Andy. The cover is similar to AV1 but the picture has been replaced
by an embroidered version of the feather on a piece of cloth - very
striking and quite a clever play on the album's title. The backside of
the box shows the back of this cloth stringed together. The apple
design on the disc itself now looks like it has been knitted.

The cd booklet is the real prize winner here - 24 pages, extensive
liner notes and a picture of the original hand-written lyrics for each
song.

check out http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello/homespun.html

Spinning pebbles,

Mark Strijbos

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Message-ID: <41BC73C88FDBD2119D2908002BB32B3928A015@lonexchg02.getty-images.com>
From: Warren Butson <Warren.Butson@getty-images.com>
Subject: THREADS AND DEMOS
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 13:33:45 +0100

after many unsuccesful attempts I have finally got onto this mailing list
hooray I do love reading it. anyway i have 2 points.
1. regarding comments on xtc content: I like reading xtc content and non-xtc
content I don't even mind threads. the problem with the nirvana one was that
everyone who continued the thread wrote min-novels! could we keep them a
little shorter next time(see etiquette note in chalkhills). actually I'd
like to start one off. I have followed xtc since black sea but have no
bootleg demos. those of you in the know, is there an agreed classic above
all else that people consider a fantastic track that beggers belief that
they didn't record it, if so what is it?

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