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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 260

                  Monday, 30 August 1999

Today's Topics:

      I think Winky Fish would be a great band name
                      One More Time
               A Hundred Heartbeats Hiiigh!
                         synth 2
                     Elastic Purejoy
                   Fear is never boring
                      Re: Pink Thing
                     Digging For Gold
                    Good Nights Sleep
            if you don't start living well...
                       RE: bootleg
           Sheesh Give Dave a Break ...Part Two
                     A funny thought
                      Here We Go :)
             SEC: UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: New List
                      Real Audio XTC
                  AV1 commercial bootleg
        I talk too much, you know I never shut up!
                   Re: Something Phishy
                Streams of Unconsiousness


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Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 21:42:00 EDT
Subject: I think Winky Fish would be a great band name

Hey 'Hillians--

The digests are once more coming fast and furious - now with 50% more
XTC content - I love it!

 From Winky Fish: (or vee tube, but you didn't sign your name)
> It was so cool to play a Bob Seeger tune, Followed by an AC/DC tune
> and then hit "the unsuspecting masses" with...
> ..."Crowded Room" It was the only XTC song my P.O.S. bar band was
> capable of playing.

And how did said "unsuspecting masses react to that?

> Senses Working Overtime-Zee crows at the end...
> or whatever odd bird sound that was.

That was some kind of English crow, or raven, or rook. I always
liked that sound too. Then one time when I was watching the BritCom
"To the Manor Born" I heard it there, and surmised it must be a
particular British bird. When I went to London last March I was
quite surprised to hear that sound coming from the common crow.
(For those who don't know, the American crow says, quite distinctly,
"Caw! Caw!")

 From Richard ("Dick"?) Horrocks
> Like most people, I suspect, the first time I heard it I took it to be
> a song about his penis.  I found it to be mildly embarrassing, mainly
> because it seemed a little childish.  However on reflection it seems a
> more honest song then many "love" songs which are really about the same
> thing.  After a few more listens, it occurred to me that it _almost_
> works as a song about a baby boy.  It wouldn't surprise me to find that
> I reacted as Andy planned.

Being more the clean-minded sort, I originally saw it as a song about a
baby. But I couldn't get rid of the thought that the words applied
_almost_ equally well to a penis. Eww. I was afraid it was just my own
dirty mind (above disclaimer notwithstanding), and was quite relieved
when I read that it was _intended_ as double-entendre.
Is this (our differing perceptions) a girl-guy thing? Girls? Guys?
What do you say?

--Melissa "I too read (and enjoyed) the whole long Dunks post" Reaves


Message-Id: <>
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:07:23 -0400
Subject: One More Time
From: "Diamond" <>

Just finished the chalkhills, it's 10:30 at night, I only got four and a
half hours of sleep last ight, and I need to be at work tomorow at nine. Yet
my devotion to XTC is making me write this before I turn in.

<You can certainly argue his abilities, but there's no way you can dispute
Cobain's influence>

I know this thread is over, but just hear me out
I hate Nirvana
But, They were influental.
You can't deny influence. If someone does something, and others copy them,
they have influenced them

Ricky martin is very influential.. to other "Latin" musicians (Notice how
latin is in qoutation marks)

Also, someone mentioned that Brian Eno's lyrics were profound.
That'sinteresting, because he has said numerous times he doesn't care about
the lyrics, he just picks lyrics that sound good with the music and that
rhyme well.

I forgot to mention parts of ES that I didn't like. The spoken part in Down
In The Cockpit.
That's it, that's the only bad part on the album (IMHO) wow, it's fun usinc
acronyms when you know what they mean!

What else... FFlynt scares me... Sesame Streat was hilarious... I like
cheese... Well, that's about it. Except that I'd like everyone to tuck me
in, cause I'm going to bed, and I'm going fast. G'night!


PS Don't Let The Bed Bugs Bite Me!


Message-Id: <v04003a00b3ee4564f8ab@[]>
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 21:36:57 -0500
From: maggie jungwirth <>
Subject: A Hundred Heartbeats Hiiigh!

This is great- a thread about my favorite guilty pleasure- Pink Thang!  I
listed this as my favorite song last week-that group consiousness thing
again- and how I love Andys *clever double entendres*, esp about my
favorite subject-sex.  The first time I heard it I *knew* it was a penis
song- probably the most obvious penis song ever written in the history of
music.  A great milestone.  Second listen the baby double meaning became
obvious.  Yes this is the cutest, happiest, sexiest song- I know it doesn't
seem possible to be all three at the same time.
     Stroking a baby's/penis' head- love for your child/love of sex...ok,
this may be my Freudian over analysis, but if you think about this song a
million times like I have- it may even be dealing with every parents
dreaded uncomfortableness dealing with sex and their when
fathers start to feel awkward with their daughters pubecence/sexuality.  I
don't think was Andy's main intention with this innocent double meaning,
but in singing this song a bazillion times, thoughts cross your mind...
     As a parent - and sinner(no not that way!), I identify with his
feelings of guilt/pleasure that Andy struggles with-happily.  As you can
see, I can see alot of heavy s*** going on in the guise of this innocently
happy bouncy little tune.  Quite the oxymoran, I think.
     Or it could just be a song about a penis....either way, *I'd love you
for it!*

*under mats of flower lava*


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:23:40 -0400
From: Ben Gott/Loquacious Music <>
Subject: PhXTC


I *love* the Guitargonauts website.  No, really...I've come a step closer
to nirvana (small "n") and have had at least one XTC dream fulfilled.
(Write privately if you'd like to know why and how.)  Just go to the damn
site, OK?

Although I find Phish as mediore as the next guy, I must stand up and fight
off any critique of their 1993 album, "Rift."  It was an in-between thing
for them, really, and it contains some of their best, most concise,
funniest, and most technically brilliant songs.  The guitar solo in "Horn"
is worthy of the Dave Gregory seal of approval -- it's tasteful and
interesting and in the "Gregory" style -- and much of the album has that
XTC feel.  That said, I can't stand the long, boring "live jam" sessions
that many enjoy so much...But, before you trash Phish, take a spin around a
used CD bin, and give "Rift" a listen.  Production like buttah, baby.

I'm going to Bowdoin on Monday to start my junior year.  In case anyone's
interested, this marks my fourth year on Chalkhills.  Yikes.

Amanda: I want it fast, and I want it with feeling.


     Benjamin Gott . Loquacious Music . Brunswick, ME 04011
AOL: Plan4Nigel . Telephone (207) 721-5366 . Mobile (207) 798-1859
   There's a house in your head / And the lights, they are on...


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:23:02 EDT
Subject: synth 2

  We can go back to Drums & Wires for a synth. The Helicopter in Helicopter.
   To whomever read Dunks entire post, your money is on its way. There are a
couple of nice hotels on Park Place & the Boardwalk you can buy with it.
  As for a non-XTC topic to discuss with XTC--  I would talk fly fishing with
Colin. I'd
even take him to some trout streams in the mountains of northern Pa.
  Toodles, Roger


Message-Id: <>
From: "Michael Davies" <>
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 11:40:04 -0500
Subject: Elastic Purejoy

> And another question.  While looking through cdnow, I found the
> following CD and was semi-intrigued:
> Dave Allen & Elastic Purejoy :  Clutter Of Pop
> Is this the same Dave Allen from Gof4 and Shriekback fame?  Does anyone
> have this CD?  Is it any good?

Glenn McDonald's "The War Against Silence" reviews it.

I've heard one Shriekback song, "Nemesis". ("Big black nemesis!
Parthenogenesis!")  Is that a novelty song or a good example of their
work?  I like it anyway.

Michael davies


Message-Id: <>
From: "Michael Davies" <>
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 12:03:46 -0500
Subject: List

> What is the best XTC single that never was?...

"Merely a Man"

> Which is the best XTC song to be more or less a hidden gem (ie: it doesn't
> receive the plaudits of other songs around it on an album etc)?...

"Dear Madam Barnum" or "Paper and Iron" or "All of a Sudden (It's Too

> What is the best lyric on AV1?...

And what a year when the exams and crops all failed
Of course you passed and you were never seen again
We all grew and we got screwed and cut and nailed
Then out of nowhere invitation in gold pen

I always expect the last two lines of this to be "the mail", but it's
better the real way.

> The worst lyric on AV1?...

All of "I'd Like That"

> When you first heard the album, what did you think should have been the
> first single?...

> Which song on The Transistor Belt Sessions do you most prefer to the
> original?...
> Which song on Transistor Belt Live in Concert does it the most for you?...

> What non-XTC subject would you most want to chat to Andy, Colin, Dave
> about?...
How their town has changed in their lifetimes.

> What XTC subject Would You most like to discuss?
Haphazard capitalization.

> Which unreleased XTC song do you like best?...

> What are your 5 favourite XTC Songs (in no order)?
Generals and Majors, Tissue Tigers, Train Running Low on Soul Coal,
Take This Town, Peter Pumpkinhead, etc.

Michael davies


Message-Id: <>
From: "Michael Davies" <>
Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 15:01:38 -0500
Subject: Fear is never boring

> So what would all of *you* say if someone asked for your take on "Pink
> Thing?"
> I would say it's about a penis.
> I know it's supposed to be about Andy's son, too, but its so much more
> fun to think that such a lovely song is about a dick.

I always thought it was accepted that it was intended to have a
double meaning.

That sentence would be hard to translate into another language, at
least for me.

Michael davies


Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:23:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Misty Shock <>
Subject: Re: Pink Thing
Message-ID: <>

> What is the best XTC single that never was?...

I Don't Want To Be Here/Pink Thing  (catchy tune with accessible, but
meaningful, lyrics, a rarity for XTC)

> Which is the best XTC song to be more or less a hidden gem (ie: it doesn't
> receive the plaudits of other songs around it on an album etc)?...
> All of a Sudden

Good choice!  My favorite instance of Colin on bass!

> What is the best lyric on AV1?...

I'd smile so much my face would crack in two
Then you could kiss it with your kissing glue

(Yes, I'm a sap somewhere deep down)

> The worst lyric on AV1?...

?  Maybe something from I Can't Own Her

> When you first heard the album, what did you think should have been the
> first single?...

Easter Theater

> Which song on The Transistor Belt Sessions do you most prefer to the
> original?...

You're the Wish You Are I Had

> Which song on Transistor Belt Live in Concert does it the most for you?...

Generals and Majors

> What non-XTC subject would you most want to chat to Andy, Colin, Dave
> about?...

Gee, I don't know.  Would I have the guts?

> What XTC subject Would You most like to discuss?


> Which unreleased XTC song do you like best?...

Goosey Goosey, Everything, I Don't Want To Be Here

> What are your 5 favourite XTC Songs (in no order)?

Great Fire, Yacht Dance, Senses Working Overtime, Are You Receiving Me,
You're the Wish You Are I Had

Misty Shock

"No round of drinks can extinguish this feeling of love and engulfing
bliss."						--Andy Partridge


From: "Mark Strijbos" <>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:50:06 +0200
Subject: Digging For Gold
Message-Id: <>


One final thought :
> Last night, I dreamt that Terry Chambers was digging for gold
> nuggets in my backyard, while telling me how shitty he thought
> "Mummer" was

> (but that's just his opinion)
he's got a point though...

Another final thought:

> "most overlooked XTC song"
Pulsing Pulsing and Tissue Tigers come to mind
T.T. in particular is a wonderful track and should have been included
on English Settlement instead of Fly On The Wall - not one of Colin's
best IMHO...

yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse


Message-Id: <>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:04:53 -0400
Subject: Good Nights Sleep
From: "Diamond" <>

One Last post, it's the next day, by the way. I had a good nights sleep,

Anyway, I think the most overlooked track, at least by me, is The Man Who
Sailed Around His Soul. I love that song, but I always forget it.

Also, I've been listening to Rag And Bone Buffet recently, and I
wanted to know what everyone thought the best song on that "Album" is,
as well the worst. i think the best is eitherPulsing Pulsing,
Extrovert, orToo Many Cooks In The Kitchen (Odd that Colin was the
first member of XTC to think of using an alias. You would think that
Andy was the first.) anyway, i think the worst is probably either
Cockpit Dance Mixture, or Countdown to Christmas Party Time. But there
are a lot of great songs on this song, like "The World Is Full..."
"Heaven is Paved..." "Punch and Judy", and I love The History Of Rock
And Roll. Plus, Scissor Man and Another Sataliette are great versions,
though I don't like this version of Respectable street. i like the
"Dirty" version. I also like the cover art of this album a lot. Wow, I
wrote more then I thoughti was going to write. I'll go, then.

Kevin Diamond


Date: 30 Aug 99 11:29:23 AES
Subject: if you don't start living well...
Message-ID: <>

There's been a fair bit of debate lately about genetically modified foods
and similar scary things.

He's a snippet of lyrics from "Scarecrow People" (O&L, 1989):

"Hope you enjoyed your meal it's only gas and chemicals, we thought
that you'd prefer something not nature made"

As usual, the prescient and perspicacious Partridge prevails!



Message-ID: <>
From: "SHIRANUI Densuke" <>
Subject: RE: bootleg
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:26:43 JST

Brian Wysolmierski <> wrote:
>Does anybody know how to get the Apple Venus Demos cd from Biz Graffiti?

I hear it can be ordered on the Web site, but I
have never tried it and please note that I am not confident of your success.

Thank you,


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:01:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jon Rosenberger <>
Subject: Sheesh Give Dave a Break ...Part Two

 From Chalk 259
 """                             NOT wanting to hire their now-manager.
 . . . . . isn't negative, so be it.
Plus, these are facts not gospel.


If A & C were the cake-makers then Dave was the decorator . . .
and a fine decorator at that.

Andy B."""

I will refrain from argueing against the myriad of failures of logic in
this post. All but one.

Fact number three I believe (I will admit that I could be wrong but I
don't think so)

XTC currently DO NOT have a manager. So what are you talking about

Decorator Indeed <Harumph to that>

Good Day Sir!

the mole has left the building


Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:54:55 -0400
Subject: A funny thought
Message-ID: <>
From: Molly E Fanton <>

After reading Tyler's post about AV2 and hard rock.  I just got something
funny in my brain.  What if XTC turned heavy metal?  Yeah, Andy singing a
good head banging song.  Get this thought out of my brain.  I don't
picture him doing heavy metal.  He's no Ted Nugent or Angus Young
(AC/DC). :P



Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:51:09 -0400
Subject: Here We Go :)
Message-ID: <>
From: Molly E Fanton <>

Here are my answers to this wonderful poll.  John R. hide your eyes. :)

What is the best XTC single that never was?...
Grass/Jump (These two songs are my two fave songs from them.  I don't
have a good reason why I like them though.)

Which is the best XTC song to be more or less a hidden gem (ie: it
receive the plaudits of other songs around it on an album etc)?...

What is the best lyric on AV1?...
"Just like a mad dog you're chasing your tail in a circle"

The worst lyric on AV1?...
"Spraying my buds." (Just because I always think Colin's singing,
"Spraying my butt." :)

When you first heard the album, what did you think should have been the
first single?...
Your Dictionary (Oh, that would be interesting to see what the FCC would

What non-XTC subject would you most want to chat to Andy, Colin, Dave
What TV shows do they watch?

What XTC subject Would You most like to discuss?
What's they're favorite song(s)?

Which unreleased XTC song do you like best?...
I'm not sure, I haven't heard many.

What are your 5 favourite XTC Songs (in no order)?
Oh this is very hard.
Chalkhills & Children
Harvest Festival
Then She Appeared
I could go on and on and on.

Phew, that was hard. :P  John R. might think survey's are bogus, but at
least it makes people talk about XTC. :)



Message-Id: <>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:29:31 +1000
Subject: SEC: UNCLASSIFIED:-Re: New List

>>From: "David Seddon" <>
>>Subject: New list

>>I feel another  list coming on (better take a tablet for it!).  We don't
>>seem to have had one for a long time, so here goes:

This could be fun.....

>>What is the best XTC single that never was?...

Earn Enough For Us, followed by Beatown.

>>Which is the best XTC song to be more or less a hidden gem (ie: it
>>receive the plaudits of other songs around it on an album etc)?...

Dear Madam Barnum.

>>What is the best lyric on AV1?...

"What a year when the exams and crops all failed".

>>The worst lyric on AV1?...

Umm....can't think of one off the top of my head. The original suggestion
("Now that I can talk, all your corn I'll reap") would be pretty close,

>>When you first heard the album, what did you think should have been the
>>first single?...

I'd Like That.

>>Which song on The Transistor Belt Sessions do you most prefer to the

Life Begins At The Hop.

>>Which song on Transistor Belt Live in Concert does it the most for

This Is Pop.

>>What non-XTC subject would you most want to chat to Andy, Colin, Dave

No idea, sorry - I know it's only hypothetical, but I'd be too much of a
dribbling mess to have an in-depth discussion about anything....

>>What XTC subject Would You most like to discuss?

The Colonel C**t Hat.

>>Which unreleased XTC song do you like best?...

I Don't Wanna Be Here (AV2?)

>>What are your 5 favourite XTC Songs (in no order)?

Earn Enough For Us, Beating Of Hearts, That Wave, Easter Theatre,
Complicated Game.



Message-ID: <028301bef2a3$bc66d740$>
From: "Raymond Aoki" <>
Subject: Real Audio XTC
Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:54:12 -0700

Greetings from Vancouver, Canada.

Been lurking on the list for a few months now...finally mustered the courage
to say something.

Been a fan of XTC since Black Sea.  Never saw them live...have rarely seen
them on the telly...have never heard any of their infamous demos that are
floating around...don't know if I want to, actually.

Anyways, it has certainly been enlightening reading about everyone's
opinions on AV1...looking forward to Homespun and AV2, like everyone else.
For the record, IMHO, 1999 has been a great year for music simply because
XTC has released AV1 (as well as the Easter Theatre and I'd Like That
singles, too!)  "Your Dictionary" would be my choice as the hit the point...controversial...have played it to non-XTC
fans (including some divorcees...yikes) and everyone has loved it.

In Vancouver, AV1 got a pretty good push from TVT.  Sam's Downtown was sold
out of stock after 3 days...they advertised the release in the local
papers...reached #17 on their billboard.  Virgin MegaStore were giving away
posters signed by AP with each purchase...apparently they were leftovers
from their appearance at their store in Toronto.  Got great reviews from
the local papers...I think you can find them on the chalkhills website from
other members.  Even a local Co-op radio station were giving away free
copies of AV1 if one gave a donation and became a member.

Enough babbling...stumbled upon a hilarious interview on Real Audio from
radio station WXRT in Chicago...circa O&L acoustic radio tour
1989...excellent acoustic version of "Mayor of Simpleton."  Here's the

Enjoy!  If this has been mentioned previously, my apologies to all.

Back to lurking...

Best regards,



Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:20:09 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Martin van Rappard <>
Subject: AV1 commercial bootleg
Message-ID: <>

Brian Wysolmierski <> asked:

> Does anybody know how to get the Apple Venus Demos cd from Biz Graffiti?

At around the same time I got an e-mail from cyberseekers, saying they
had updated their site, and guess what was listed? Check

Whoaah, actual XTC content! Everybody happy?



Message-Id: <l03130301b3f014539fdc@[]>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:09:09 -0400
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Ghoti

  Though I'm not a huge Phish phan, I do have a couple of their early
albums, before they got larger than life on the concert circuit. I can see
the point about musical masturbation, but anyone who's at one of their
shows who isn't stoned would notice their off-the wall sense of humor. Jon
Fishman their drummer especially; I have friends who've met him(including
my brother), and they all concur the guy is a living breathing embodiment
of Zippy The Pinhead, speaking in non-sequiturs. They're all huge Zappa
fans too, which I don't think you can accuse any of the members of the
Dreadful Grate of being. And the Dreadful Grate could never be accused of
having a sense of humor either. Plus I've a feeling at least one of them is
an XTC fan, probably Trey, who reportedly listens to the likes of Pavement
in his spare time. So if you don't like their music, fine, but like 'em or
not they're one of the few bands nowadays who sound like nobody else.
  And I'd still like them to cover English Settlement in its entirety this

Christopher R. Coolidge

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A Poor law attempts to protect me from myself."
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Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 05:38:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: nross <>
Subject: I talk too much, you know I never shut up!

This is in response to Simon's post answering Todd's question on the
order of AV1:

Simon wrote:

>>>Your Dictionary: (Obviously) Divorce (admittedly a bit of a jump
from puberty, but just assume that the first 4 songs came in between

If you are attempting consistency in your "order" and you feel that
Divorce is a big jump from Greenman's puberty... you could choose to
interpret Dictionary as "a coming of age" song, rather than divorce.
In "coming of age", I mean that after puberty, before you become
"adult" (whatever that means), there is that stage where everything
that was once rosey is now dead to you. You become cynical and bitter.
If you think of Your dictionary in these terms, it fits nicely into
you order
of songs on AV1.

Of course, its about divorce. cynical me never passed into adulthood.



Of course the *real* work was done by a team of God's grad student
flunkies, working under enormous pressure to get the job done in
three days because God had waited until Wednesday to tell them it was
due on Saturday.

(oh, my! if you all only knew...)


Date: 30 Aug 1999 07:18:08 -0700
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: Something Phishy

Whew! I'm scorched! Jason, why so hostile! And wrought with generalizations
about the people who might enjoy the music! Maybe Phish does seem annoying
at first, alot like Frank Zappa can seem annoying. But whats so wrong with
school taught musicians loving to play complex and technical songs? It
sounds like you haven't really given Phish a chance, but who says you have
to? But you know, alot of bands that are really great seem to require 3rd
or even 4th listenings before you pick up their ideas. Or maybe there are
other factors contributing to your intense dislike, who knows? Oh well, far
be it from me to try to take away your personal hatred for a band and their
fans, and may your sweeping generalizations serve you well in judging
people by their musical tastes.


Message-Id: <>
From: "Michael Davies" <>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:11:51 -0500
Subject: Anonymouse

> up and use as a sort of jumping-off point.  For that reason, I've always
> felt Concrete Blonde didn't get the recognition they deserved for helping
> kick off that movement--they were a fresh, vital band back then, and their
> take on "Everybody Knows" was the song that made most newcomers, it seems
> to me, want to buy the album.  (And I, being fatally un-hip both then and
> now, was thrilled that one of the few contemporary bands I loved was
> getting such recognition.)  So give Cobain the trophy, but at least invite
> Johnette Napolitano to the reception afterwards.

I never knew Concrete Blonde was such a big band.  I thought their
only hit was "Joey, I'm Not Angry Anymore".

> Then there's a variant version,
> "Writing about music is like dancing about architecture."

I've heard this quote at least a dozen times, and I'd never heard it
as "*talking* about music" until someone on this list said it.  I
think "Writing" makes more sense.

Michael davies


Message-ID: <>
From: "Duncan Kimball" <>
Subject: Streams of Unconsiousness
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:16:31 PDT

Fit the First: let me get all complimentary on the Chalky ass of Wayne
(Subject: Re: Scathe On!)

>While I can see Dom's point, I have to disagree. Vigorously. Taking a
>business course, understanding contract and where the money comes and goes
>wouldn't necessarily jade musicians than they already are (particularly
>those that are unjustly ripped off). All you need to do is look at the
>variety of bands that, due to lack of business acumen, lost possession of
>their music and allowed others to exploit it even more.


>The list of musicians that didn't take any business course or learn from
>the business litter the airwaves of oldies and rock stations throughout the
>country. It's called protecting one's interest including their artistic

Succinctly put, my lad!, and regrettably all too true. Badfinger are one of
the most egregious (and sad) cases, but it's everywhere. Australia is of
course no exception, our own rock history being littered with the wreckage
of could-have-been-brilliant careers. The Easybeats are a perfect example -
despite an unprecedented string of Aussie chart hits and their landmark 1966
international Top 10 with Friday On My Mind, the band folded in 1969 leaving
principal songrwriters Vanda & Young in debt to the tune (boom! boom!) of
some $85,000 (a figure you could safely multiply by ten if you want to get
some idea of today's value).

Taking up Wayne's point about learning - it was the learning curves
occasioned by the various catastrophic failures and rip-offs of their
respective earlier bands that learned the members of Little River Band how
to achieve the overseas success so many others had dreamed of.

* * *

Our next contestant is:

>fflynt <>
>Subject: andrew partridge ate my anima

>i'm not a fan of xtc. i used to be, but i've become a musician/songwriter
>myself and you can't be a fan and a musician/
>songwriter at the same time, because to every musician/songwriter all other
>musicians/songwriters are rivals.

Ummm try telling that to Elvis Costello ... or Andy!


>fflynt on the way to the slammer, writing on a borrowed laptop, thank you
>pc mcgregor.

What was all that about??? fflynt, I beg you - use some punctuation and hey
- maybe even try a paragraph now and then? It works wonders. (Face it babe -
that ee cummings stuff is SO over).

Next lesson, we'll get to work on the content. In the meantime, just keep
taking the tablets.

* * *

At this point, I'd like to say (with all due respect to the imminently
non-bacheloric Iain Murray) that ... LISTS SUCK!!!

I have written stroppy emails to Mojo about it. I have stopped buying Q for
that very reason. As far as music magazines are concerned, it's a cheap,
lazy and singularly unimaginative way to fill editorial space that should be
devoted to real stories. Excluding Crowded House, I am yet to see one decent
article in Mojo covering any aspect of Australian music - yet barely a month
seems to go by without another moronic "100 Greatest Something-or-others of
All Time". Needless to say, this silly phenomenon flourishes because it
pleases our vanity with its easy appeal to our belief in the superiority of
our own good taste, and our compulsive need to rank and categorise.

It is in effect the print equivalent of talkback radio - i.e. exploiting the
audience while giving the appearance of inclusion - but in fact it saying
(and meaning) nothing.

* * *

>Subject: xtc in vietnam

>Can anybody think of any
>songs that have dealt with Vietnam in the last 20 or so years? If so,
>could you send them privately to me? Any and all help would be greatly

Does Australian music count? Prolly not, or I would suggest Redgum's "I Was
Only Nineteen", which deals quite explicity with the experiences of Vietnam

Back across the Big Pond, there is of course Broooooce "Born In The USA"
Spingsteen. There must be hundreds. Over to you,
Brian's Trust



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