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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 23

                 Monday, 23 November 1998

Today's Topics:

                        why plod?
       Damned Culnane 4ZZZ Dom Collins kinda thang
                 Drums And Wires question
                   I missed my chance.
                   0 Language N R Lungs
                     Mayor of Simeon
            blasts, production and transistor
                        Album name
                 Transistor Blast options
                    Re: President Kill
                   Re: transistor blast
                Modern Time Neros - CC 98
              Can't we all just get a LIFE?
                      Re: TB/O&L/SS
                          Ummm..
                        No Lemons
                  Re: Wot? No Black Sea!
          Would you pay $311:50 for Window Box?
                        hello all!
               Re : Various Bits And Pieces
               Boring opinions - Enough !!
             Deadly Corn-flavored Lampshades
            XTC's spot in the Virgin Top 1000
                    Re: Disliked songs

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Message-ID: <19981123005638.10580.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "Catherine Piazolla" <notangos@hotmail.com>
Subject: why plod?
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 16:56:38 PST

Harrison Sherwood said:
>Our job as diligent listeners is to plod clumsily along behind him,
plotting with dull crayons on grubby newsprint the effortless path he
followed from there to here.

Why?  I'm not satisfied with plodding along clumsily behind someone for
very long.

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Message-ID: <32C1DEF30B54D211A3DE00A0C9D3458457B6CF@PIBCRMEXH001>
From: "McDonald, Roger" <McDonaRF@prose.dpi.qld.gov.au>
Subject: Damned Culnane 4ZZZ Dom Collins kinda thang
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 16:46:32 +1000

To Whom it May Concern,

Long time, no post, so a few boring little things to get off my chest...
1.	Robert D'Aprile (?) wrote e few digests ago that the latest Damned
tour is brilliant and you know what? He's jolly well right! I saw them a
couple of times in the eighties with silly Roman Jugg on guitar and, at the
time thought it was brill but nothing prepared me for the ''side of a barn''
sized crunching wall of guitar that the Captain delivered. Kind of like a
'teenage dream' so to speak albeit arriving late in my thirties.
2.	Congratulations to Paul Culnane for the interview with Terry
Chambers however I must take issue with Terry about the need for another
show like Countdown and a compare like Molly Meldrum to break new acts in
this country. This twit (Molly, not Terry) did more damage to the Australian
music scene than any other industry idiot I can name. He's the principle
reason why we got The Angels (crap pub band) instead of Radio Birdman (cult
Stooges, MC5 legends), Cold Chisel (crap pub band) instead of The Riptides
or The Gobetweens (Alternative pop legends) and Pseudo Echo (crap new
Romantic band) instead of MEO245 (exciting 80s pop band like Fischer Z
except much, much better) to name a few. What's he done for the music scene
lately? Signed Peter 'oh what a lovely washboard stomach I've got' Andre on
the strength of a freakin' talent quest appearance!!! Criiiinge! Whaddaya
say Paul and Iain, am I right or am I right?
3.	Years ago on 4ZZZ radio station they used to have a station
identification blipvert with Andy saying, "My name's Andy Partridge and I
play in a band that goes under the name of XTC and if you don't hear my
voice coming out of your speaker right now you're possibly tuned to the
wrong station."
4.	Boy, Dom really cops a beating in this digest. I mean, I hate rap
music but I admire the guy's suicidal forthrightness(?) - I'd rather read
his declarations of intent than Harrison 'oh what a big vocabulary I've got'
Sherwood's postings. Nothing against Mister Sherwood, mind.
5.	Phil Collins? Barely enough rhythm to masturbate - but he does it
sooooo well.
6.	Loved the analysis of Helicopter. Just another brilliant track from
a brilliant album. Glad to hear your swinging your knockers around to it.
Can we watch? Sorry if that sounds a little lecherous but sometimes you've
got to be obscene to be obheard I'm sure you'll agree!

      RogerFromOz.

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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:39:57 +0100 (MET)
From: Martin van Rappard <rappard@dds.nl>
Subject: Drums And Wires question
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.90.981123122445.6877D-100000@fatima.dds.nl>

Dear Chalkies,

This post is not in any way relevant to O&L.:)
I realise that the debate on different versions of Drums And Wires was a
few months back, so my apologies if this question has been posed
before.
Anyway, I bought a copy of DAW about a month ago at a London fair, and
just recently noticed something odd. The tracklist on the inlay reads:
1.Making Plans For Nigel 2.Helicopter 3.Life Begins At The Hop 4.When
You're Near Me I Have Difficulty 5.Ten Feet Tall 6.Roads Girdle The Globe
7.Reel By Reel 8.Millions 9.That Is The Way 10.Outside World 11.Scissor
Man 12.Complicated Game; the CD label is CDV 2129, copyright 1979 & 1985
Virgin Records.

The CD itself reads: 1.MPFN 2.Helicopter 3.Day In Day Out 4.When Your
(sic) Near Me I Have Difficulty 5.Ten Feet Tall 6.RGTG 7.LBATH 8.Chain Of
Command 9.Limelight 10.Real (sic) By Reel 11.Millions 12.TITW 13.OW 14.SM
15.CG; the CD label is again CDV 2129, but it's pressed in Austria.
Copyright 1979 Virgin Records.

The track listing on the CD is the correct one. Needless to say, I'm
thankful for the extra tracks (Chain Of Command, Limelight, Day In Day
Out), but considering the two spelling mistakes I'm wondering if I bought a
bootleg. If it is, it is done very well - I had me fooled for over a month.

Thanks in advance for any pointers,

Martin

Everything
About Bootlegs: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Ithaca/1089/bootlegs.html

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Message-ID: <19981123125434.2631.rocketmail@send102.yahoomail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 04:54:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Jon Rosenberger <wile1coyote@yahoo.com>
Subject: I missed my chance.

Time for a Delurk

Amanda Wrote:
"On one more note-A mint condition Window Box tape was recently auctioned
off on the eBay website for almost 300 DOLLARS!!!!!! I love XTC, but not
THAT much!"

Just to set the record straight it sold for $311. I know this because
I bid $306.50 and did not win. Amanda I realize this is difficult for
you to understand so I thought I would try to share my reasons. But
first let me ask this question:

How much would you pay to see them live?

If they were a standard band playing small concert halls like 2500 to
5000 seats you would expect to pay about $30 to $40 a seat right,
taking a date or spouse =$80 plus a couple of t-shirts, soda, nachos,
or whatever=real close to a $100. This would be per year since you are
a huge fan which means in 10 years you could easily spend $1000.

I hate to say this: They are not going to tour ever again in my
lifetime. I screwed up and missed whatever chance I ever had to see
them live, mostly by being too stupid and not recognizing their
brilliance earlier.

I hope I am wrong but I do not think so. I think the best we can hope
for is a filmed session with them or maybe another radio tour kind of
deal. Andy is just not interested and from what I have read recently
Colin isn't real keen on the idea anymore either. They like their
lives the way they are.

So I ask you, Is $300 too much to pay for something that no more than
199 people before you have ever done? Sit down at home and unwrap a
brand new sealed copy of windowbox and spend a few hours listening to
the brilliance of these guys in raw form. Sure I've got everything on
the tape, that is not the point, the point is the experience. It is
not often anymore that I  get the chance to have an XTC experince and
I would gladly pay $300 to do it.

Here's hoping the new material is wonderful as I am sure it is.

The sound of a large soapbox being put away is now heard, followed by
Jon crawling back under his rock.
I now return you to your regularly scheduled program of debating the
merits of various albums and producers and such like and so forth.

Cheers,

Jon Rosenberger

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Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19981123080857.0097d460@smtpgw.ametsoc.org>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:08:57 -0500
From: David Gershman <dgershmn@ametsoc.org>
Subject: 0 Language N R Lungs

>From: David Oh <davidoh@interlog.com>
>Subject: my dilemma
>[...]
>i'd like 2 get a copy of 'trans-blast', so i went 2 me local hmv (i know,
>big mistake!). this is what i found out...
>it won't b released in canada until december 1st. ok, i've waited 4 xtc
>material  b4, so i can wait just a little longer. then i asked how much it
>would cost...
>[...]
>thanx, yours in xtc,
>davidoh

Hi, davidoh -- I was just on the phone with The Artist Formerly Known as
Prince, and he was wondering if he could get his dictionary back? Thanks in
advance.

Dave Gershman

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Message-ID: <B82F8C4D16A0D1119FDC0001FA6A4BC90234403D@hfd-exch003.hartford.aetna.com>
From: "Witter, Karl F" <WitterKF@aetna.com>
Subject: Mayor of Simeon
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 08:30:07 -0500

CTSWEENEY: "Andy Lloyd Webber looks like an ape."

CTSWEENEY: (June 1998) "Looking like a pig gets [Lloyd Webber]
knighted."

Well, well, well. We have a pattern of animosity here. I won't be the one
to say "Why is singing Lloyd Webber like being on a Stairmaster? Because
you never have to climb more than one step at a time." or "What do you
call a Lloyd Webber score with more than three actual songs? Jesus Christ
Superstar." I deride the truck-and-bus spectacles he creates but picking
on his appearance is really, really low.

And by the way, he looks like a chipmunk. A CHIPMUNK. How many times do
I have to tell you? Don't make me come over there!

DOM, you clever acerbic wit: I need to upgrade to your model cat. Mine
seems to repel, rather than "attract cat hair like, well, a cat".

On the whole Phil thing (this group are on a first-name basis now,
eh?) I only know his later Genesis and earlier solo stuff as I stopped
listening. A picture of his producing sound would be a single Xmas tree
light swathed in three layers of wax paper. With scant exception it
doesn't catch me, the fast stuff ain't half as funky as he thinks and the
slow stuff ain't emotive. Genesis records suffer less than his own.

Finally, a fanny alert. The English character Daphne on Frasier said "My
fanny" last week. Comments from the real Anglos among us? Is this wrong or
do they really say "My [crumpet]!" where Americans would say "My ass!"?

Taking an Indian to lunch,
Karl

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Message-ID: <19981123150048.25236.rocketmail@send104.yahoomail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 07:00:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Jeff Langr <jlangr@yahoo.com>
Subject: blasts, production and transistor

> I can't agree about Lilywhite, although he
> is a superb producer on the whole

I bought Sparkle in the Rain (simple minds)
when it came out... I still think it's one
of the worst-produced albums ever.  Jarring
bloated noise.  I think Mr. Lillywhite must
have been wearing tissue paper earplugs at
the time.

> Finally, what a relief it was to find
> that "Transistor Blast" is being sold
> at such a reasonable price. I had visions
> of having to shell out #40 or something
> hideous, but at #22 (Our Price Records)
> it's a veritable snip.

Weren't you the one complaining about all the rich
sods on this list being able to afford Song Stories,
a low-priced paperback book?  #22 is still high if
you ask me... here in the states it is even worse
at $45 on the average.  Especially considering
I already have about half of the thing.  I'm curious
how many people will be shelling out money for
Transistor Blast.  I can't see it selling more
than a couple thousand units.

J

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From: "Damian Foulger" <damian@imclaser.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:32:42 -0600
Subject: Album name
Message-Id: <19981123092403.01bbd08a.in@ceo.ceolasers.com>

Mark Strijbos wrote. following sentiments of many others:
> get to hear Apple Venus Volume Two
> (are they really going to use these titles? i sincerely hope not...)
What does it matter?  To badly misquote Shakespere (who is a
well know authority on album naming) 'That which we call a rose
will smell as sweet called by any other name.'  It will still sound
great.

Dames tWd

* ------------------------------------------------
'People will always be tempted to wipe their feet on
anything with welcome written on it.' - AP

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Message-ID: <19981123170319.2759.rocketmail@send106.yahoomail.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 09:03:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Mark Rushton <markrushton@yahoo.com>
Subject: Transistor Blast options

barb@velvet.com reported in the last Chalkhills:  "I would recommend
taking a peek at: <http://www.imvs.co.uk>"

I second that, and also add <http://www.cdparadise.com> to the mix -
they're a UK-based, worldwide shipper of CDs.  They're part of the
bookshop.co.uk consortium.  Nice currency conversion tool on their site.

I live in the United States, have used both companies for UK imports,
and I can positively recommend them both.

Mark Rushton
author and webmaster
Permanent Flame - The Bill Nelson Web Site
http://www.billnelson.com

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Message-ID: <36598BDF.860@bhip.infi.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 12:23:02 -0400
From: Brian <mattone@bhip.infi.net>
Subject: Re: President Kill

Tschalkgerz!

>> We can debate for weeks about what is the best XTC song or what is the
best XTC album, but one thing's for sure - everybody agrees that
"President Kill Again" is a lousy song. Is there anybody out there who
actually likes this song?<

Yeah, me here. I think this is one of the neatest tunes because it shows
that little gift the lads have for utilizing a gimmick for their
message... in this case the self-important, boisterous, pondering rhythm
of a train derailment about to happen.

--
 BRIAN THOMAS MATTHEWS
* Digital & traditional illustration/animation
* Caricaturist-for-hire
* RENDERMAN ~ One-Man Band Ordinaire
SAPRINGER CENTRAL ~ http://www.angelfire.com/fl/sapringer
mailto:mattone@bhip.infi.net

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Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:20:33 +0000 (GMT)
From: Chris Clee <cmc@sanger.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: transistor blast
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.00.9811231717100.11287-100000@piranha>

well i must admit that i have a firm favourite in CD number 2, unfortunate
that the live material is (for obvious reasons) mostly derived from the
first couple of albums but the stuff off black sea is brill, my cousin
found a coloured vinyl copy of psonic psunspot too the other day ...i'm
well jealous,

ttfn folks.................this world over......absolutely too much

chris

******************************************
Chris Clee
Team 55
The Sanger Centre

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Message-ID: <2043F72A2C73D2119D5B0008C74CA17B02D82E@azmail.rjconsult.com>
From: "Miller, Ed" <emiller@rjconsult.com>
Subject: Modern Time Neros - CC 98
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 10:22:22 -0600

Hi, kids...

I would like to get a CD copy of Modern Time Neros - CC98.  I will be
glad to reimburse you for your expenses and effort.

If anyone can help, please email me privately.

Thanks,

Ed "Wondering if the voices in my head are overproduced" Miller

mailto:emiller@rjconsult.com

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Message-ID: <000901be1707$0efc2c90$f06dcec0@t24806009694.DOA.STATE.LA.US>
From: "John Voorhees" <griffon@earthling.net>
Subject: Can't we all just get a LIFE?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 11:31:09 -0600

When Michael Davies wrote to dis (as in *dis*like, NOT *dis*respect, BTW)
That Is The Way, Love At First Sight, Ball and Chain, Living Through Another
Cuba, No Language In Our Lungs, Runaways, Jason and the Argonauts, The
Meeting Place, Big Day, Miniature Sun, Cynical Days AND King For a Day...
I basically thought, well, how about that?
Thanks, Michael, because you have given a real case in point for the
tremendous range of musical taste covered by our Swindonian lads.  I'm
really quite fond of every single one of those songs... well, except Big
Day, anyway.
But, as Stuart Smalley would remind us, that's... okay.  There's room on the
list for XTC fans with mightily disparate opinions about why the band rates.
O&L is not my favorite listen.  So what?  I thought Nonsuch kicked its butt.
Who gives a doo-dah except me?  I know I'm going to be in line with the rest
of you guys to buy AV I.  So that's cool, right?
Back me up, people...
John Voorhees

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Message-Id: <TFSOBQEM@ubk.net>>
From: Jonathan Monnickendam <monnickj@ubk.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:49:39 +0000
Subject: Re: TB/O&L/SS

>>My only gripe is that "they" decided not to include all the songs
from the 1978 & 79 live shows at the Hippodrome and Paris Theatre
Those songs would fit on one cd, so why not? Of course the setlists
are quite similar, but nobody is going to buy this boxset except
the die-hard fans. And they don't mind ! (or do we?)

So what is missing from the TB set, either live of studio ? As to the
studio stuff  any ideas why ?

i have loved the O&L discussion and can only add that the reason i like
it is because a lot of it sounds full of fun, happiness and contentment.
I use happiness in both the usual and Peter Sellars meanings.

 I enjoyed Andy Miller's comments which beat me to the punch as having
read Song Stories you realise what pain each of the post retirement
releases has caused them all. You then add the inability to the twosome
to fashion the framework of enjoyable musical creativity ; everything has
to be new each time (studio, producer, drummer, engineers and probably
anything you care to think of) and that must make it difficult before you
even start to record.

jon

* ---------------------------------------------------------------
The views expressed are of the individual, and do not
necessarily reflect the views of The United Bank of Kuwait PLC.
* ---------------------------------------------------------------

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Message-ID: <3659B297.2F5B@bellatlantic.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 14:08:07 -0500
From: John Irvine <jirvine@bellatlantic.net>
Subject: Ummm..

Am I the only one on this list who likes to beat up nuns?  Er, ah.. .
did I say that out loud?

John Irvine

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Message-Id: <199811232048.VAA01357@mail.knoware.nl>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 21:55:23 +0000
Subject: No Lemons

Dear Chalkers,

Here's my 2 cents in the Great O&L Debate:

1. There's no such thing as a bad or sub-standard XTC album.

2. We all need that new album pretty badly, don't we?

BTW: Harrison's excellent piece on That Wave was interesting,
eloquent and offered yet another level of meaning to an already
magnificent work of art. And Catherine's personal observations on
Helicopter left me "bouncing with gay abandon".

Both pieces were a joy to read and much more interesting than the
rather childish "my fave album is better than yours" debate that has
been raging. It's so pointless... everybody knows E.S. is the best :)

yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse
 http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello/
     or http://come.to/xtc

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Message-Id: <199811232048.VAA01368@mail.knoware.nl>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 21:55:23 +0000
Subject: Re: Wot? No Black Sea!

Dear Chalkers,

Last issue Michael Davies said:

> "No Language In Our Lungs", which is slow and repetitive,

Excuse me? You've just dissed one of the major tracks of an
extraordinary album. NLIOL (and Travels In Nihilon) are the crucial
songs on Black Sea, how can you like XTC and not see that?

I think that maybe what you call slow and repetitive was intended as
such, just as the slightly slurred (delayed?) vocal effects,
precisely because this song deals with the impossibilities of
communication and how you can never be totally understood

> and i just think using the phrase "muscle
> in our tongues" was not a good choice.
Well i just think Andy knew _exactly_ what he was doing when he wrote
that song in particular. It's (arguably) his best lyric to date.
What's wrong with the phrase, except from "not being a good choice"
why? how? explain please

Really... with all that  slagging off here lately, if Andy weren't
alive today, he'd be turning in his grave
yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse
 http://www.knoware.nl/users/mmello/
     or http://come.to/xtc

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Message-Id: <199811232149.WAA26029@mb07.swip.net>
Subject: Would you pay $311:50 for Window Box?
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 98 23:52:41 +0200
From: Per Aronsson <per@aron.pp.se>

I visited Ebay, the auctionsite, and found that some person out there hade
paid $311:50 for Window Box. I know that it is a very rare item, but that
much. Well, I wouldn't pay that amount, but it is easy for me to say since I
am one of the lucky owners to WB...

Just one more thing. I love every XTC-album. When O & L was released I took
vacation for two days from my work just to listen. It was worth it. I must
honestly say that I don't understand how any person can dislike it. I know
that album in my heart from the first to the last bar. The lyrics are
stunning, the music overwhelming and, yes the production is slick, but it
works.

Per Aronsson,
Sweden.

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Message-ID: <000201be1739$314c20c0$cb499cd0@alexivie>
From: "Eddie" <beef@keg.com>
Subject: hello all!
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 17:27:31 -0600

I'm new to the list, but fell into xtc in 1984. I've been hooked ever since.

I thought I'd give my two cents on President Kill. good lyrics as always,
but it certainly won't sound good converted to Musak.

the only song i try to avoid consistantly is Making Plans for Nigel. I don't
know why, It just sounds more like something DEVO would have done better at
a faster tempo. On my old cassette, I erased the song. when I listen to the
cd, I program it not to play that track.

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From: Iain_Murray@hr-m.b-m.defence.gov.au
Message-Id: <4A2566C6.0001E8BF.00@newmta.hr-m.b-m.defence.gov.au>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 10:48:57 +1000
Subject: Re : Various Bits And Pieces

My apologies if these points have been raised before (I was a bit slow, so
Cheryl beat me to the punch on a few of them - I just can't get used to
Chalkhills becoming a daily again....).

     Firstly, I must reply to Andy Miller's comments in Chalkhills #5-21,
regarding the gap between the first five albums and everything that came
after. Hmm......this is just my own opinion, but I've never perceived a
"gap" ; it's always seemed more a progressive maturing of both the writing
and the musicianship. By the time O&L was released, I think the group had
gained the confidence to try a few new ideas (as far as production was
concerned) in the studio ; herein lies at least one benefit of the
cessation of touring.
     I suppose it could be argued (and I can feel the flames heading in my
direction already) that XTC had pretty much ceased to have any Top 40
relevance by this point - or, to put a Spinal Tap spin on it, "their appeal
was becoming more selective" - and perhaps the "over-production" (there's
that word again) on O&L was a tad self-indulgent. Personally, I think they
were well within their rights to record a few albums that *they* might
enjoy, rather than attempting to pander to the whims of some imaginary
13-year-old invented by record companies......I'm starting to ramble a bit
here ; what the hell was my point again?

     Okay, I remember now - commercial success is not the be-all and
end-all of playing in a band. It's nice when it happens, of course, but
shouldn't the #1 priority be enjoyment of what you do, rather than chasing
the almighty dollarpound? As for over-production, perhaps brought about by
having too much time on their hands in the studio.....I haven't heard
anyone refer to "Sgt.Pepper's" as over-produced, and yet (IMO, anyway), the
circumstances in which both albums were recorded were quite similar - more
time for studio experimentation as a result of the retirement from touring.
     Mind you, Andy, you were right about The Big Express - it's about time
people started building this album up. As for Skylarking being "a neutered
dog of an album ; Andy sounds scared to sing" - sorry, I disgaree most
vehemently, sir. "Earn Enough For Us" is one of the most upbeat and
optimistic songs I've heard in years, and "Another Satellite" would be
capable of moving me to tears if I was a big girlie.....that's probably not
very PC, but who cares? I'm on a roll.

     Closer to the present, Michael Davies mentioned a whole bunch of songs
he doesn't like (and why shouldn't he? It's a free mailing list). I have to
agree with his comments about English Settlement - although "Jason & The
Argonauts" is beginning to win me over, "Runaways" and "Ball And Chain"
have a looooooong way to go. I feel the same way about almost the entire
Black Sea album, but I think it might be best to let that go before the O&L
debate becomes the BS debate....and I'm sure you'll agree that quite full
enough of BS already. I couldn't really say that "Big Day" depresses me,
but it does bore the crap out of me ; and pressing the skip button gets you
to "Another Satellite" a little bit quicker, which can't be a bad thing.

     I don't like "President Kill Again" much, by the way.

Iain

"I love California - I grew up in Phoenix" - J.Danforth Quayle.

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Message-ID: <365A0182.4B4B@virgin.net>
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1998 00:44:50 +0000
From: peter.wright2@virgin.net (peter.wright2@virgin.net)
Subject: Boring opinions - Enough !!

Chalks,
       All this talk about 'best' and 'worst' XTC albums is frankly
getting tired. We all have our own tastes , therefore opinions. It is a
totally pointless exercise to cram Chalkhills full of this stuff as
everyones opinion is vald and nobody has the right to challenge your
opinion by stating their own as superior. Personally I love O&L and
Nonsuch. So what ? If you don't , turn it off. Simple isn't it ?
Over-produced , under- produced. Who cares ? If you like it fine. If you
don't , fine. End of story !! Can we now give it a rest and talk about
something more challenging ?
 As for Phil Collins - nobody can argue that the guy is a technically
superb drummer. As for his music being good or bad , READ ABOVE!!!!
Sorry to sound off but , Jesus it gets tedious sometimes ! Pete.

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From: Jdmack01@aol.com
Message-ID: <f1016b36.365a0b0e@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 20:25:34 EST
Subject: Deadly Corn-flavored Lampshades

Hail (oops, wrong list),

There is a store called "Vinyl Ink" in Silver Spring, MD (USA).  They have a
copy of the Barry Andrews 7" "Town And Country" for $15.00.  Though it is
not identified as being particularly special, I couldn't help notice that
scrawled across the picture sleeve, in ball point pen, was "B. Andrews."

This store DOES have a website that does online business at
http://www.vinylink.com/.  I have NO idea if the autograph is legit, but I
thought I'd pass on the info to the gang.

J.D.
http://members.aol.com/jdmack01 (MIDI, music and more!)

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Message-Id: <199811240322.TAA00744@sgi.sgi.com>
Subject: XTC's spot in the Virgin Top 1000
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 98 21:21:49 -0600
From: steve <schiavo@home.com>

I just picked up the new edition of the Virgin all-time top 1000 albums.

The only XTC album included is Oranges & Lemons at number 430, right
between Begin by The Millennium and Abba's Greatest Hits.

For fans of psychedelic pop, I'd highly recommend Begin.  It's in print on
Sony.  BTW, Begin is one of the first albums recorded on 16 tracks.

- Steve

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Message-ID: <365A3F4C.777A@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1998 21:08:28 -0800
From: Rich/MetalMan <cbunnell@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Disliked songs

>"That Is The Way", "Love At First Sight", and "Ball and Chain",
>which similarly seem to have been written in about three minutes.

   Oh I don't know, Ball And Chain recently caught on to me even though
I shunned it at first, and Love At First Sight has a nice repetitive
chorus. I love the way "What they want is!" is sung. I haven't heard
"That Is The Way." Which album's it on? I don't have White Music or Go 2
yet.

>"Living Through Another Cuba", which sounds like the 25th of May or
>something.

   Messy song, but powerful.

>"No Language In Our Lungs", which is slow and repetitive, and i just
>think using the phrase "muscle in our tongues" was not a good choice.

   One of the lesser tracks on Black Sea, but since Black Sea is
probably my favorite XTC album (with very, very close competition with
Big Express), that's still a compliment.

>"Runaways", which is very very depressing.

   Runaways was probably the song that turned XTC from a jerky pop band
to a lush, melodic band. I personally like it for the African sound.

>"Jason and the Argonauts", which doesn't flow at all.  i have
>listened to the first side of English Settlement probably three
>times, and the other three sides probably 40.

   Jason And The Argonauts is my favorite off of ES! Well maybe not as
much as Fly On The Wall. It doesn't flow, but it builds up well and has
a nice melody.

>"The Meeting Place" and "Big Day", which also somehow depress me.
>

   "MMMM! MMMM! The mee-ting place!" That's a pretty happy chorus. Big
Day is depressing, I'll give you that.

>and i think "King For A Day" sounds like Tears For Fears.

   My god, leave Colin alone! It doesn't sound so much like Tears For
Fears in general than it does "Everybody Wants To Rule The World," which
is one song by Tears For Fears. It doesn't sound like the group in
general. But I see how the songs can sound alike -- the verses and
choruses of each are practically interchangable when switched with the
other's music. I tried it in my head -- it works.

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