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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 172

                  Tuesday, 13 April 1999

Today's Topics:

                        Mea Culpa!
               Re: Long Live Dinosaur Rock
                 another cool av1 moment
                         Oh my!?!
                        Fruit Nut
           Ve have vays of makink you talk ...
                     April 12th, 1999
                I think I'll out-do myself
                    God rest Gilligan
                    Embarrassing song
                   No Appo Polly Loggy.
                        I'm Bugged
            Boo hoo... Simon Hurt My Feelings!
                Re: Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ouch!
                    Re: Fatboy Slim &c
 Hello, this is Chalkhills, I was hoping to ask a few...
                  Amazing *Song Stories*
                   Super Furry Animals


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Message-ID: <>
From: "Duncan Kimball" <>
Subject: Mea Culpa!
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 18:53:23 PDT

Thanks to Michael and John for pointing out the factual error in my
previous post. Indeed my memory was at fault regarding Paul's visit to
America, and I was confusing Sgt Pepper and Magical Mystery Tour there -
although as I think John(?) pointed out, published accounts are a little
confusing too.

BTW #1 - Michael thanks so much for picking up my spelling error - you
pedantic bastard :) Actually, I do know the difference between effect and
affect - I was gettin' a migraine OK? I wasn't concentrating).

BTW #2 - Michael, I don't have the references at hand, but if you want some
more information about the *possible* psychological effects of heavy,
long-term use of marijuana - I'd be delighted to assist. Don't get me wrong
- I'm not one of the people who think Drugs are Baaad, mm-kaaay? But, as
with poor souls like Syd Barrett and Jim Gordon, it IS recognised that
heavy drug use can exacerbate the onset and symptoms of pre-existing
conditions, such as manic-depressive disorder or schizophrenia. It can in
certain cases cause ppl to become VERY paranoid. (I mean we are talking
about a guy who became so paranoid that he wouldn't shower for months
because he thought Phil Spector was gonna make poisoned gas come out of the
shower head!)

Now on to the dread thread itself - and I promise these are my LAST words
on the subject! ...

I appreciate the points you all made, but I stand by my assertion that
Paul's visit, his friendly warning to "hurry up", and/or the imminent
appearance of Sgt Pepper, represented merely the final nail in a coffin
that was already cut, glued, sanded, varnished and ready for its
occupant. As Michael alluded too, Brian's behaviour was becoming
increasingly bizarre over that time (cf the sandbox incident and the "Fire"
sessions - although stories of him attempting to burn tapes are totally
untrue) and his attitude to the music was consequently changing
drastically, as his control of the whole situaiton slipped from his
grasp. From my recollection of his own statements about it, Brian says he
gave Smile essentially because it was creating more "bad vibrations" than
he was able to deal with, and that the bad feelings he associates with the
record are the principal reason he has never gone back to complete it
(which many feel he easily could).

But perhaps the most crucial fact (which I neglected to mention) was of
course his irrevocable split in early '67 with collaborator Van Dyke
Park. As I recall, Parks was finding Brian increasingly difficult to work
with, but what prompted him to leave was a hostile confrontation with Mike
Love, who demanded an explanation of the line "over and over the crow flies
uncover the cornfield" from the song 'Cabinessence'.  I think this, more
than any other factor, was the real "end" of the Smile project. Many people
associated with the project - including bass player Carol Kaye, whom I was
lucky enough to be able to ask directly about this - are of the opinion
that Brian had essentially finished the project, and could easily have had
it ready for release months before Pepper if he had really wanted to.

The point was that he really didn't want to. Many sources suggest that
after by the end of 1966 he was really just dragging his feet, his interest
evidently and rapidly waning over the early months of '67, as he tinkered
with ever more abstruse snippets for possible inclusion, and was
sidetracked by ideas like the home studio and the health food shop. And of
course, looming over all of this was the prospect of a major lawsuit
against Capitol; it cannot have escaped Brian's consideration that, in such
circumstances, Capitol might well attempt 'sabotage' the album, as they had
already done with Pet Sounds. (And just as the Beatles had to accept the
culling of Strawberry Fields/Penny Lane, Brian had to accept the forced
inclusion of "Good Vibrations" onto Smile against his express wishes).

To me it's just incoceivable that the man who had the creative force to
make a record like 'Pet Sounds' almost single-handedly could drop a project
like Smile simply because the Beatles had a new LP coming out. It's just
too simple an answer to be satisfactory. The facts as I see them are that
Brian gave up because he was falling apart, because of the onset of a
serious mental illness, and because the pressures of being Brian Wilson,
Boy Genius, had simply become too great.

Penultimately, to Michael Versaci - I appreciated your Hendrix quote, but I
suspect Hendrix actually had more respect for the Beach Boys than you might
imagine. And yes, they were indeed a "psychedelic barbershop quartet" - I
think it's actually a compliment disguised as a putdown.

Brian has always been unequivocal about the concept and role of the band;
his approach and his major inspirations - Chuck Berry, the Four Freshmen,
George Gershwin - were substantially different from the Beatles. The Beach
Boys were first and foremost a vocal group, who became a pop band; the
Beatles were a rock'n'roll band. The fact that they became "competitiors"
was an historical accident. And let's face it - there's no smoke without
fire - whatever band you prefer, there's no doubt that the Beach Boys made
some incredible music and that the Beatles held them in high respect. As a
longtime fan Im delighted to see they (and especially Brian, who has
suffered more than anyone should have to) are finally being accorded the
recognition they deserve.

Our opinions about their respective vocal prowess differ of course, and
that's fine - but I would suggest to you that it's pretty unlikely the
Beatles would have come out with a piece like "Because" had it not been for
the prior existence of records like the Beach Boys "Our Prayer".

(BTW if anyone wants to hear it, go to the Web Sounds "Smile" pages
( and listen to the
original Smile version of "Our Prayer" and you'll be treated one of the
greatest vocal performances you will ever hear - short, sweet and utterly

Last point - the BB pastiche in "Back In The USSR" may have had a slight
parodic element to it, sure - but knowing Paul's admiration for Brian, I
think it's basically a tribute, and perhaps a return tip of the hat for
Brian's tribute to them on the "Party" LP.

What? Who?  XTC??? Oh yeah ...

I am a veteran, regular listener to "This Sporting Life", a long-running
weekly, nationally broadcast, 3-hour satirical radio gab-fest which
addresses any and all issues relating to sport, the media and celebrity. It
is presented by sporting legend Rampaging Roy Slaven (who has represented
Australia in every known sport) and peerless commentator HG Nelson. (Those
of you not in Australia ... well you're missing out - it's a national
institution). Anyway - Im delighted to report that the first music track on
TSL yesterday was "Greenman" and during the back-announce HG pointedly
remarked that he "can't wait for Apple Venus Vol.2" This is the 3rd time I
have heard it played and heard HG make VERY positive comments about the

Yours from the sandbox


Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:04:10 -0500 (CDT)
From: John Fulton <>
Subject: Re: Long Live Dinosaur Rock
Message-Id: <>

Rich Frers pontificated:
> I remember young musicians smugly dismissing   with disdain anything
> older than last year as being  "dinosaur rock".

Perhaps I misused the phrase.  By dinosaur rock I meant not something

Rather, I meant "dinosaur rock" to denote ponderous, lumbering music with
a really startlingly high pretension level.

Wakeman covering Brahms is the epitome of this. (Though by the same token,
Yes served as my introduction to this fantastic symphony and Brahms in

Or "Supper's Ready," with such sub-titles as:
"Apocalypse in 9/8 featuring the delicious talents of Gabble Ratchet;"
One can practically hear the brontos munching, while smaller lizards
scurry up and down the keyboard.

I was once a huge fan of this stuff...

Speaking of old, though, I am at a loss for current examples of
dinosaur species that *weren't* around 20+ years ago...

> Disregard Michaelangelo, Da Vinci, Salvador Dali, et al.
> After all, they're "dinosaurs"! :)
>... Easy to dismiss what you don't understand.

So, are those guys, like, the ones who painted the Yes cd covers and
stuff? >:>

Cheers, John.


Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:13:41 -0400
From: Jefferson Ogata <>
Subject: another cool av1 moment

I haven't seen this one mentioned yet: end of last chorus in Easter
Theatre, on the line "if we all breathe in and blow away the smoke,"
there is a cymbal roll -- the sound of the smoke being blown away.
The same roll is at the top of the song, so one might imagine the
stage is covered with fog before the play begins...

Damned cool, if you ask me.

Jefferson Ogata.  smtp: <>
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Message-ID: <>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 22:14:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Chris Desmond <>
Subject: Oh my!?!

There are very few areas of my life in which I could still be called a
maiden, so I take it where I can.

Molly, sorry to break it to you, but the only thing Meatloaf ever did
that was remotely interesting was The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Andrew
Lloyd Webber, well... decent sense of melody but all in all not a very
challenging writer. Pretty run of the mill to be honest. The world
would be a better place without Cats, or at least New York.

If only my computer came with a breathalizer... damn cider.

--Chris "Free love - you get what you pay for" Desmond


Message-ID: <>
From: "Jonathan Blake" <>
Subject: Fruit Nut
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 23:55:18 PDT

someone asked if anyone else heard "a man must have his shit to keep
him sane" in fruit nut. i definitely do. that's what i've thought
since the first time i heard it. that's all. this is my first post.

-jonathan from dayton/minneapolis


Message-ID: <>
From: "Duncan Kimball" <>
Subject: Ve have vays of makink you talk ...
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 00:25:52 PDT

Hello Chalkies
* ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
*This post Guaranteed not to contain any attempt to compare and/or contrast
* ANY famous 60's bands* 
* ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

May I offer my contribution to the Revalations and Admissions Thread? Off
we go ....


- "The Cicada That Ate Five Dock" by Outline


- Angel: "WHITE HOT"

Utterly laughable, and wholly grotesque in both conception and
execution. Simply the worst. If you don't believe me, look for yourself -
if you dare - at:

(FYI - Angel were an American glam-metal band of the mid-70s. They were
unduly immortalised by Zappa's song "Punky's Whips", written about drummer
Terry Bozzio's obsession with a pinup of Angel lead guitarist Punky

[SPECIAL MENTION: The Undisputed Truth - good band, godawful covers. Their
costumes (which made Earth Wind And Fire look like they were outfitted by
Pierre Cardin) were as spectacularly awful as the 70s themelves, and their
flares were so wide that Amelia Earheart is probably still lost in there


- Lou Reed: Metal Machine Music

(Well at least I wasn't the only one ...was I?)


1. I went to see the original Australian prodcution of Jesus Christ
Superstar - three times - and frankly thought it was fantastic

2. I bought three (!) Rick Wakeman LPs *and* paid to see him live (I got

3. As a budding music fan I became so obsessed with Queen that I nicked a
copy of (ironically) Sheer Heart Attack and promprtly got nicked
myself. OOPS!


- DJ-ing at my friends' wedding and having to play (gag, retch, heave)
Whiteney's "I Will Always Love You" as the bridal waltz

- having a total stranger tell me they liked my playing


- (solo) Ellen McIlwaine, Regent Theatre, Sydney, 1980

- (group) Prince & the NPG, Sydney Entertainment Centre, 1991


- Van Morrison, Hordern Pavilion, Sydney 1984
He just didn't want to be there, and he made us all suffer for it.

- Tangerine Dream, Regent Theatre, Sydney, 1979
who couldn't perform because they forgot to bring voltage adapters!


- XTC ... both Oz tours ... (I know, I know, but I was broke ...)
- Graham Parker & The Rumour, Regent Theatre, Sydney, 1978
- Zappa, Hordern Pavilion, 1974
- Stevie Wonder, "Hotter Than July Tour" 1981: would you believe I FORGOT
to go???


- meeting Peter Gabriel AND being recognised ("yes, that *was* me screaming
like a teenybopper in the front row, Peter")


- the death of Steve Marriott

- The Last Waltz

- Lisztomania
(I would never normally advocate such a thing, but all trace of this film
should be expunged from the Earth)


- Celine Dion (female)
- Englebert Humperdink (male)

Least Funky Person Ever Born)

- Andrew Lloyd Webber

(Also richly deserves a Slow Painful Death, although one death scarcely
seems sufficient punishment, and Superstar should not be taken into account
in mitigation of sentence. Should also be Cruelly Tortured beforehand,
alongside Tim Rice, in special recognition of unique contribution to world
suffering made by composition of "Don't Cry For Me, Argentina".)


1. REM/Oasis (dead heat)
2. The Grateful Dead
3. Love
4. The Style Council
5. Post-Gabriel Genesis


- Paul Weller


- Electric Light Orchestra


Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 02:37:34 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id: <v01510103b3376ba05218@[]>
From: (Mark Fisher)
Subject: smalls

>"The insect headed worker wife will hang her waspies on the line"
>Vhat Vhe Vhant to know is "What are Waspies" ??  We are both english and
>still have no idea.
>Simon (and KT)

It's underwear - though I have never heard the word used in any context
apart from this song. My dictionary says: "a ladies' corset which is laced
or fitted tightly to draw the waist in; a similarly cinched belt".

This line is one of the best examples of Andy's associative word-play and
wit. I guess (though I don't know) that his thinking went like this: he
liked the idea of using the word "waspie"; that made him think of wasp;
that made him think of bees; that made him think of "worker bees"; that
suggested "worker wife"; and he then added "Insect headed" for even greater

The weakness of this theory is that it means he wrote the line backwards.
If he wrote it forwards ("insect headed" leading to "worker wife" leading
to "waspies") he's even more of a genius.

Either way, it's a brilliant way of describing an identikit suburban family
(spoiled for narrative reasons, I have to admit, when dad turns out to be a
judge, hardly a run-of-the-mill occupation). It manages to suggest ordinary
back-garden life at the same time as being disturbingly surreal. Imagine if
your next-door neighbour was "insect headed".

(This reminds me of Andy's claim that he coined the phrase "ant music" for
XTC long before Adam and the Ants had been invented.)

Does that answer your question?

- Mark


Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 07:34:40 -0700
From: Dan Phipps <>
Organization: CIC
Subject: April 12th, 1999


/Dan Phipps <>

"I would have made this instrumental,
 but the words got in the way."
(Andy Partridge)


Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 06:31:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: nross <>
Subject: I think I'll out-do myself

Wow! All your entries for the most ridiculous best-loved songs
have been wonderful!

I'll beat my MANDY though, with this one:

CiCi- pick up that guitar and uh talk to me!

I LOVE Poison. I know they suck shit (excuse the language, but it fits).
I just love it, no excuses!

How can you resist: "talk dirty to meeeeee, yeah! and baby why don't ya
talk dirty to me..."

All that lovely over-styled over-dyed blonde dry long hair on men
who wear make-up.



Message-Id: <v03102800b337c016f1a6@[]>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 10:36:36 -0500
From: Olof Hellman <>
Subject: God rest Gilligan

Someone mentioned they hated "Human Alchemy".  Like it or not, I think its
a great example of music matching lyrics.  It makes the phrase "power pop"
seem rather misused, as most "power pop" bands have soda pop lyrics.

Re: ridiculous song, Dan Phipps wrote:

>The "Gilligan's Island" theme comes to mind!
>(By the time the line "The weather started
>getting rough..." comes around, I'm hooked!!!)

Note that it is possible to sing these lyrics to the tune of
"God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen".  Cracks me up every time.

Has no one mentioned W.H.A.M. Rap ??

- Olof

Olof Hellman
Northwestern University,  Dept. Materials Science & Engineering


Message-ID: <>
From: "kristi leigh siegel" <>
Subject: Embarrassing song
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 08:40:25 PDT

>>Subject: Embarrassing song

>>I was tired of my lady
>>We'd been together too long
>>Like a worn-out recording
>>Of a favorite song

That damn "Pina Colada Song".
Coming to you live at every singles bar
here in South Florida. A plague on our



Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 09:27:22 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jennifer Linnea Strom <>
Subject: Peppers


Well, might as well put in my 2 cents as far as the Pepper thing goes.

Outlandos D'Amour - The Police (The album that made my brother suggest
that I listen to XTC because he thought they would be more my style)
Rain Dogs - Tom Waits (My introduction to more eclectic music styles)
Bookends - Simon & Garfunkel (Made me appreciate good songwriting)
Oranges & Lemons - XTC (My first, though not necessarily my favorite
XTC album)
The Very Best Of Johnny Cash - Johnny Cash (My realization that there
was more to country music than the crap they play on the radio)

Though to this day not all my favorite albums, these are the ones that
got me started toward what I listen to now, and I feel like I'm
leaving a few out to be honest. As far as Beatles albums go, I used to
sneak into my big brother's record collection when I was 5 and put on
the White Album just to listen to Piggies. My favorite album of
their's would have to be Revolver.

As far as embarrassing songs are concerned, I would have to include
Rocky Mountain High by John Denver (as well as a few other tunes by
him) and The Hustle (Which a band called Brave Combo do a great cover
of on their album Group Dance Epidemic).

All for now.


And the trouble is, if you don't risk anything, you risk even more.
--Erica Jong


Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 13:14:16 -0400
From: Harrison Sherwood <>
Organization: Averstar, Inc.
Subject: No Appo Polly Loggy.

> Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:10:56 -0400
> From: Lincoln Fong <>
> Firstly Harrison- do you have to patronise Chris so for his singular
> comment on the music debate? (<...Wake me when this snoozefest is over>)
> I detect a note of classroom Darwinism that would exclude the comments of
> the occasional poster who you seem to regard as having nothing to say. Talk
> about taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

If Chris had had _nothing_ to say, believe me, no one would have rewarded him
with a more resounding silence than I.

But Chris' one-liner was not _nothing_. It was in fact a deliberately
hurtful and rude comment directed at John Gardner, someone who had taken
quite a lot of time and effort to post something informative and
positive. Chris deemed himself free to blow raspberries at someone making a
good-faith effort to contribute--without himself ever having posted a
single word, positive or otherwise. I don't know about you, but I think
this is is pretty crappy behavior.

I have nothing whatever against lurkers. Some of my best friends are
lurkers.  I don't sit in judgment of whether people have "something" or
"nothing" to say in Chalkhills, and I would never discourage anyone from
posting anything they damned well feel like--or nothing at all. But when
someone delurks simply to hurl a brainless insult at somebody who's
actually putting up some numbers, then I get mad.


It doesn't get any better than "Starry Eyes" by the Records.

Unless it's the Rembrandts' theme song from "Friends," my entry in the
Embarrassing Beloved Song Contest.

They kind of resemble each other, don't they?

I've got an appointment at Bobby Mitchum's tattoo parlor later today: get
one set of knuckles that sez "LOVE," the other sez "HATE."


Burgess/Clockwork Orange/Fuzzy Warbles:

The glossary of Nadsat Language from Burgess' book at the excellent
Clockwork Orange website
( -- glossary at mentions
"warbles" as "songs," but not specifically "fuzzy warbles."

The movie script is available at It's been
several decades since I read Burgess' novella, and I don't remember if
Alex's comical little threeway diversion is in the book--I don't think it
is; that scene is so screamingly Kubrickian that I bet it was written
specifically for the film.  Here's the relevant passage from the script, O
best beloved droogies:

   Alex: Pardon me ladies. Enjoying that are you my darling? A bit cold and
      pointless isn't it my lovely. What's happened to yours my little sister?

   Devotchka [girl]: Who you getting bratty? Goggly Googol?  Johnny Shivago?
      The Heaven 17?

   Alex: What you got back home little sister to play your fuzzy warbles on?
      I bet you've got little say pitiful portable picnic players. Come with
      Uncle and hear all proper. Hear angel trumpets and devil trombones.
      You are invited.

God, I can hear Walter Carlos' switched-on "William Tell Overture" starting
up.... Viddy a still from this scene at -- Legible
titles in stack at left: "The Sparks," "The Blow Gobs," "The Legend,"
"Cyclops." I get the Russian-lit allusions of "Goggly Googol" (Gogol) and
"Johnny Shivago" (Pasternak), but "Heaven 17"? Anyone?

So this scene has now engendered at least two group/album titles: "Fuzzy
Warbles" and "Heaven 17." And there's a close enough resemblance between "A
bit cold and pointless" and "Crocodile"'s "A bit cold and lifeless like the
burger on my plate" that I'm willing to believe this scene to be
particularly high on the Partridgean Faves list. (Alex's "cold and
pointless" is referring to the priapic popsicles that both devotchkas are
so alluringly blow-gobbing as they shop for tunes.)

I want a jacket like that one.

Harrison "Siiiinging in the rain...." Sherwood


Message-Id: <>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 21:26:51 +0200
Subject: I'm Bugged

Dear Chalkers,

> "The insect headed worker wife will hang her waspies on the line"

don't you all think the waspies could just be a play on washing,
continuing the 'insect headed worker wife' wordplay ?
IMHO the American W.A.S.P. acronym probably did not enter Andy's
mind... when we Europeans talk about a wasp we mean the insect

yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse


Message-id: <>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:02:32 -0400
Subject: Boo hoo... Simon Hurt My Feelings!
From: (Rich Greenham)

Simon wrote the following six words in regards to my undying love of the
trashy and  inimitable "Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep" by Mac and Katie
Kissoon... :

"Nope nope nope nope nope nope."

Simon made me cry like a little girl...  Then he wrote this:

"While Mac & Katie were responsible for some utter dreck in their day
always got to No1, much to the despair of my friends & I (we must have been
12/13 at the time) who loathed all Disco records) they didn't do this, but
for the life of me I can't remember who did do it - was it Middle of the
Road, or did they do _Son of My Father_ ??"

And to add insult to injury, Simon signed it:

"yours confusedly


Them's fightin' words, brother! : )  I work in radio.  I know my music.
And you doubted my facts to the extent of six "nopes"!  *shudder*  Prepare
to taste the wrath of my Billboard Top Pop Singles reference book...
*evil laughs*

Ahem...  	KISSOON, Mac and Katie
		Brother and sister from Port-of-Spain, Trinidad.  Moved to
		England in the late 50's. Their "Chirpy Chirpy Cheep Cheep"
		made it's debut on July 24, 1971 and spent 15 weeks on the
		Billboard Charts -- peaking at number 15!

Ahhh -- I am vindicated.  But, somehow, vengeance does not taste as sweet
as it should!  *sigh*  Simon -- piece of advice, buddy...  Never slight a
radio-guy!  We're very shy and our fragile egos bruise easily.  If we
could take criticism, we'd be on TV!

Thanks for giving some miniscule meaning to an otherwise boring Monday
afternoon in Ottawa...



now playing:	Apparitions -- Matthew Good Band (kickass Canuck talent)


Message-ID: <001a01be851e$fd462ba0$6310883e@o.e.e>
From: "John Bartlett" <>
Subject: Football
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 17:52:35 +0100

Hello all,
    what with the recent talk of the beautiful game, does anybody know
whether messers Partridge and Moulding are SwindonTown supporters ?
    And Dom, ther could still be a space for us(the mighty Irons) in the
UEFA cup, but it involves Man Utd being European champs. Can you live with


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 20:51:13 +0100
From: KT <>
Subject: Re: Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ouch!

In article <00a701be8330$b7fe0760$49a725ca@speedking>, Simon Curtiss
<> writes
>"The insect headed worker wife will hang her waspies on the line"
>Vhat Vhe Vhant to know is "What are Waspies" ??  We are both english and
>still have no idea.
>and no it's not wasps,

At least, We don't think so. I've heard wasps called 'Wabbies'
though..Mayby it's just more slang..

KT Coope


Message-ID: <q0tPmWAZ$>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 21:02:33 +0100
From: KT <>
Subject: Re: Fatboy Slim &c

In article <>, kevin donnelly
<> writes
>Well, Fatboy Slim is ok, though I think his stuff is a little 'dead' - ie
>devoid of any real life, or energy (samples and big beats not necessarily
>counting as lively); and I empathise with having to listen to it a mate's
>car - but I can think of worse musical experiences:
me too, I'd I'm supposed to like 'Chart Music..'
How bout

Billie - anything by her..I don't care, it all make me want to throw the
radio out the window

That Boyzone one that webber wrote - ugh!

The vengaboys, we like to party - The amount of times I've had THAT
played at me during woodwork..

any of that soppy pap from B*withched or the coors (ESPECIALLY the

Hah! I can disrupt my teenage image! Gimme Nonsuch or spilt milk anyday!
Katy Coope


Message-ID: <005f01be848f$c57f5a00$4ce0abc3@vucqprlj>
From: "David Seddon" <>
Subject: Waspies
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 03:54:22 +0100

>"The insect headed worker wife will hang her waspies on the line"
>Vhat Vhe Vhant to know is "What are Waspies" ??  We are both english and
>still have no idea.

I always assumed the 'wasp' used here was the acronym for 'white
anglo-saxon protestant', and although I could probably come up with some
contrived explanation on how this fits in with the racial elements of
NTIOW, I'll leave that up to someone else.  :-)

Aren't they a rather racy type of ladies lingerie with suspender straps at
the bottom?  You know, a little like camisoles only more provocative.

Think I'll go and take a cold shower!!

David Seddon


Message-Id: <>
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:17:28 -0400
From: "Jason Hauser" <>
Subject: Hello, this is Chalkhills, I was hoping to ask a few...

This looks like fun, so-
Least favourite moment on Apple Venus1:
"Your Dictionary".  It's too much.

Least Fav XTC song:
"Melt the Guns".  It's grating, but it's really not all that bad.

Artist most people seem to think is pretty naff, but you actually quite
Roxy Music.  Can I get a witness?

Worst Beatles song:
"Revolution #9".  It's interesting, but is it a song?

Songs that should have been strangled at birth:
Theme from Friends, by the Rembrandts.  God help me, I'll kill them all.
That Barenaked Ladies song that sounds like a commercial, you know.
"Illegal Alien", by Phil Collins.  "Weird Al" should have wrote this.

Extremely popular artists that you can't see what all the fuss is about:
Mariah Carey, Celine Dion, Boyz II Men, Backstreet Boys, Puff Daddy

Musician you'd like to kick hard:
Rod Stewart

Whackiest Title for a song:
"Several Species of Small, Furry Animals Gathered Together in a Cave
Grooving with a Pict"

Most Unpleasant Musical Experience:  Cats.  Ohhh, the horror.


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Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 16:27:41 EDT
Subject: Amazing *Song Stories*

Hello chalkers and -erettes!

I was just wondering if anyone who has completed their copy of *Song
Stories* have any comments about their _most surprising fact_ learned after
reading it; or the least surprising for that matter.

There were many for me, one stands out significantly, but I am interested
in knowing what others on this wonderful digest have to say about this
book.  {Please forgive me on this late entry, I had joined just as some of
the *heavies* on the digest were spiralling out of control on the subject
of the book into other areas of the give and take, and having combed
through digests and posting brief jaunts myself, of such and such subject
matter, was oblivious to the thing that was nagging at me the most: the
drums, and who the drummers were on all those post-Chambers albums.  The
most obvious and most noted drummer in my view was Prairie Prince, who I
have long since stopped listening to after *Wild Women of Wongo* was

Well, the most surprising fact for me was how few drummers XTC hired to do
their albums, and, on so few songs were they commissioned to play.  (Hey
Andy, if you need an experienced drummer...I've got syncopations down
pat!!!  :)

Their use of the Linn Drum astounds me!!!  Because as it was, according to
Colin, they probably spent half their session time programming that damn
drum machine.  And, having read the book album-by-album, as it were, I
realized what had nagged at me everytime I listened to any *one* album by
XTC: the drums.  As I am a drummer of 30 years, the rudiments, vocal
patterns, cadences and sound are all so important to me.  I was searching
all this time for the acoustic nature of the song only to have my hopes
dashed my the book in such a way only a drummer would know.  Now, instead
of listening with the trained ear, I NOW automatically hear the thing I
have been missing all this time.  And that drives me batty because I
expected XTC's drums to be acoustic, and I wasn't listening for that on
each album...but...but...

Of course, having exposed myself there, it just goes to show you the power
and influence one band can have on one person who was otherwise oblivious
to the drums, so immersed in the musical tongue of each beat, and blind to
the electronic beck and call of the Linn Drum that it embarrasses me to
have not spotted it sooner. AAARRRGGGGHHHHH!

Did anyone have pangs of consciousness while reading this excellent, if
tardy, autobiography?  Any one have any *eurekas* to share?

One young chalker earlier hung a shingle out about great drums songs by
XTC: Let me get back to you on that one!

John Gardner


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From: "Stephen Jackson" <>
Subject: Super Furry Animals
Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 20:09:09 +0100

Cheryl wrote

<Jumping off of the XTC bandwagon and into a
completely different subject...
Super Furry Animals.
Anyone into them?

Are you kidding? They are one of the best bands of the 90's. "Radiator" is
a fantastic record. SFA are one of the few bands who owe XTC a debt (and
SFA's second album is better than XTC's second album...<controv>)

Two steps forward, six steps back.


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