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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 170

                  Sunday, 11 April 1999

Today's Topics:

                  Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ouch!
                        Voyeurism
                     Am too a genius
                  Never Gonna Break Down
                          Lerch?
                More thoughts on Meatloaf
     Re: Oooooooooooooooh-Weeeeeeeeeeeeee-oooooooooh!
                      Andy's Potato
                           VH-1
                      RoO harmonies
            I Stand Corrected (partially.. :)
                    XTC/Burgess again
                        PG and XTC
                 Cooking Vinyl says what?
                      Re: bubblegum
                   Its All Great Music
                       I'm back!!!
                 Long Live Dinosaur Rock!
                  Famous misheard lyric
I like how this list is only a digest, so you have to come up wi
                        Song title
                    Embarrassing song
               Last Balloon vocaltrumpet -
                     XTC picture disc
                      Fatboy Slim &c
                   Re: So much to say!
XTC Talk Peppered with Ridiculous Amounts of Yes and Floyd! Yum!

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Message-ID: <00a701be8330$b7fe0760$49a725ca@speedking>
From: "Simon Curtiss" <mduffy@clear.net.nz>
Subject: Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Ouch!
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:01:26 +1200

Hi Y'all

KT & I have ben having a short off-list discussion about the first line of
_No Thugs In Our House_

which goes:

"The insect headed worker wife will hang her waspies on the line"

Vhat Vhe Vhant to know is "What are Waspies" ??  We are both english and
still have no idea.

and no it's not wasps, we think we have narrowed it down to some sort of
clothing but don't know which exactly.

Any answers then Chokhillites ??

Simon (and KT)

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From: Comicpub@aol.com
Message-ID: <6ab4f61f.2440cfd1@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:01:21 EDT
Subject: Voyeurism

<<From: JEFFREY.THOMAS.JT@bayer-ag.de
Subject: Everything Chalkhillian
Message-Id: <0006800010243040000002L002*@MHS>
Date: Fri, 9 Apr 1999 13:35:49 +0200>>

<<Which leads us to one of the weaknesses of "AV1": in my eyes, Colin needs
to have at least 3 songs on an album like this.>>

Now I know some have problems with the song,but in my opinion BUNGALOW
Fit's better on AV1 then it does on NONSUCH if one compares it with the
Themes of FRIVOLOUS and FRUIT.
 Colin's Songs(or at least his Good songs) seem to be about the mudane
everyday, everyman existance of life.(Frivolous Tonight,Washaway,Grass
etc...)The Struggles of getting threw life(Cynical Days,or Deliver us from
the elements, etc..) or in some cases a combination of both(Bungalow,Fruit
Nut, etc...)
 I always Fine Colin's Songs to be "more" Personal then Andy's.NOW before
everyone starts responding Yes,Andy's does write about personal
matters(See:Funk Pop a Roll and Your Dictionary),but he seems to be
STANDING WITH THE CURTAINS WIDE OPEN NAKED FOR EVERYONE TO SEE.Colin on the
other hand:THE CURTAINS ARE CLOSED WITH THE EXCEPTION OF WHERE THEY GO
TOGETHER,AND YOU KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON THERE,BUT YOU HAVE TO GET
REAL,REAL CLOSE TO THE WINDOW TO SEE WHAT IT IS.

Take Care
Dan"Who doesn't have a clever closing tagline" R.
comicpub@aol.com

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Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:10:56 -0400
From: Lincoln Fong <LincolnFong@compuserve.com>
Subject: Am too a genius
Message-ID: <199904101310_MC2-7146-1427@compuserve.com>

Firstly Harrison- do you have to patronise Chris so for his singular
comment on the music debate? (<...Wake me when this snoozefest is over>)
I detect a note of classroom Darwinism that would exclude the comments of
the occasional poster who you seem to regard as having nothing to say. Talk
about taking a sledgehammer to crack a nut.

On the Subject of Brian Vs The Beatles, thanks Dunks for being so eloquent.
Brian's fragility of mind owed little to his desire to compete with Lennon
and McCartney as any biography will tell you.

Next- genius. Can someone give me the rules? It seems to be a subject of
repeated debate here and as far as I can tell has as much to do with <who I
admire> as any more level playing field. At one time didn't the applicant
have at least to have an uncontrollable hairstyle and a great intellect?
For example I saw someone disqualify Elvis here recently for being 'merely
an interpreter' whilst say, Martin Luther King would more likely go in the
'visionary' bag. Not to say that fame isnt a factor and that's what's
causing the hold up with Mr Partridge's application I imagine. Maybe its
just a very small club and they dont like to let just any smartass in.

I have too many Sgt Peppers (and not enough Privates?) but I should mention
I was in a mastering studio a few years back working on something unrelated
when I happened to glance at a box of tapes on the floor. This box
contained none other than the original masters to every XTC album up till
Nonsuch. With shaking hands I actually touched the reels of White Music,
the soundtrack of my own childhood, and gazed over the larger (digital)
boxes that Todd Rundgren once held in his hands. Just one of life's little
surprises...

Finally on the subject of embarrasment these favourites contain the crucial
balance of promising tune and atrocious lyrics:

Rainbow- Since You've Been Gone
Europe- The Final Countdown
J Geils Band- Angel is A Centrefold
Yes- 'Owner' (as we like to call it)
Michael Jackson- You've Got To Be Startin' Somethin'

I've also always been a bit partial to 'I Just Called To Say I Love You'
but that's not embarrasing is it?

Lincoln

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Message-Id: <370F885D.150B84E8@tmbg.org>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:20:34 -0400
From: Ben Gott/Loquacious Music <gott@tmbg.org>
Organization: http://listen.to/loquacious
Subject: Never Gonna Break Down

Harumph.

I'm probably going to get my butt kicked for this, but I've been around
Chalkhills long enough to be used to that:

I think that many bands -- XTC included -- have successfully built upon
(and, in many cases, have surpassed) the output of "The Greats" (Beatles,
Beach Boys, etc).  Of course, that doesn't mean that I don't think that
"The Greats" are unbelievably amazing and groundbreaking in their own
right, but it *is* interesting to see how modern bands have interpreted and
reinterpreted the music, arrangements, and vocal stylings of those who have
come before them.

Yes, "Imperial Bedroom," "Black Snake Diamond Role," and "Skylarking" would
never have happened without John, Paul, George, and Ringo.  However, I
think it's fair to say that "Imperial Bedroom," "Black Snake Diamond Role,"
and "Skylarking" (and others) equal (and oftentimes surpass) much of the
output of "The Greats."  That's not to say that Declan McManus, Robyn
Hitchcock or Andy Partridge are "more" or "less" talented than their
predecessors, but that they've been able to incorporate more influences to
make a different product.

Just my opinion.  Feel free to disagree.  But, in the words of Robyn
Hitchcock, "don't say 'bloody hell' or 'blimey'..."

-B.G.

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Message-ID: <370F47A0.3C3@bhip.infi.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:44:27 +0000
From: Brian <mattone@bhip.infi.net>
Subject: Lerch?

Tschalkgerz!

> I'd be your Gomez if you'd be my Morticia - ha ha
                 We'd laugh because each joke would make me
                  blow my train up high ,really high
                   like a really high thing say...Lerch<

Not that I have firsthand knowledge or anything (I can't say I've seen
it in print), but I always assumed that the character's name was spelled
L-U-R-C-H. This is the way my dictionary spells it.
It means 'to loiter about a place furtively'.

Hey, you brought up the spell checking!
;-)

--
 BRIAN THOMAS MATTHEWS
* Digital & traditional illustration/animation
* Caricaturist-for-hire
* RENDERMAN ~ One-Man Band Ordinaire
SAPRINGER CENTRAL ~ http://www.angelfire.com/fl/sapringer

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Message-ID: <000b01be82e8$fcdcb9a0$59ffabc3@vucqprlj>
From: "David Seddon" <D.Seddon@btinternet.com>
Subject: More thoughts on Meatloaf
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 01:26:56 +0100

Molly said:

David mentioned:
<<Musician you'd like to kick hard:
Andrew Lloyd Weber>>

Ehem, I like Andrew Lloyd Weber.  What is so wrong with him?  Am I the
only one who likes his stuff, because I notice a lot of people here don't
like his stuff.  <sarcasm alert> Well, I'll just get rid of all my stuff
of ALW's.</sarcasm alert>
Also, I like Meatloaf too.  I really think he's amazing.

"Your interest in Meatloaf suggests a taste for pantomime rather than
music.  Meatloaf exists as a focus for the sale of trite and overblown
sentementality.  His music provides a exemplar in flatulance, bombast,
grandiosity and histrionics.  His true vocation is that of the chat show
guest targetted at middle aged ladies, who will find him rebellious.  In
fact he is tired, sterile and formulaic.  Aside from that he displays a
fine zest for life that compensates for the shortcomings outlined above."

p.s. As for ALW, he produces music for unmusical petit bourgeois
philistines who like to consider themselves cultured.

Signed the Crazed Seekers of the pinched salt. (i.e.me and me mate Tim)

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Message-ID: <001301be837a$82e5ce60$11f494d1@compaq>
From: "Drude" <drude@sprint.ca>
Subject: Re: Oooooooooooooooh-Weeeeeeeeeeeeee-oooooooooh!
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 10:49:39 -0700

> The Beatles were *great* singers, but, frankly, the Beach Boys were
> better.

Sorry, gotta disagree with you there! The Beach Boys only sounded good on
album due to a whole lot of studio work. If you've ever heard them live,
you'd realize how crap they actually were. I saw them in concert years ago,
and it was most painful and embarrassing.

As for the Beatles, while I don't think they were all great singers, I
still believe that McCartney was pretty damned amazing. Generally, I think
what you heard on tape was less "processed" and nearer their actual
capabilities than any B-Boys recording.

I never really understood the attraction to the Beach Boys, while I am a
lover of great, hooky, well-written pop, I always felt they were
one-trick-ponys, and that there was a distinct lack of variety on their
albums.  I sincerely believe the Beatles were probably the most
musically-gifted band of all time. I would also add The Kinks, Pink Floyd,
Midnight Oil (yes, you heard me...), and, of course, XTC to that list.

Do what you will but harm none.

Drude

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From: mollyfa@juno.com
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 14:31:26 -0400
Subject: Andy's Potato
Message-ID: <19990410.143613.3862.0.MollyFa@juno.com>

KT said:
   "I don't want to be a potato!"

Oh I love that quote from Road to Oranges and Lemons.  That's a great
film short.  I'm so glad I have it, thank you Ian.  I wish I could get
some of their early stuff, except for Making Plans for Nigel, because I
have it.  I know Ian Stewart has some, but I would love to get my hands
on the entire XTC video library, except for you know what.  I don't have
anything to trade though. :(

Molly

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Message-ID: <370F9AF1.4F4DE6A7@which.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:39:46 +0100
From: B Blanchard <b.blanchard@which.net>
Subject: VH-1

Saturday evening.  7.45pm
Well I told you so.
VH-1 are running an A-Z weekend so it was pretty sure they'd play
XTC and they did - Nigel.  Oh well.
Can I go out now please?
Incidentally, from whence came the source of the idea that AP was
going to be on Never Mind the Buzzcocks?  He wasn't and that was
the last of the series.  But clearly someone told someone that he
would be and indeed he would be excellent.
Love BELINDA

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Message-ID: <19990410185441.65767.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "kristi leigh siegel" <beatlebird@hotmail.com>
Subject: RoO harmonies
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 11:54:40 PDT

John Fulton scribbled:

>>Recently, I began to hear something familiar in the "do-do-do, do-do"
chorus at the end of Easter Theatre.
Something about the soprano and the
harmonies, not quite Beach-Boys-like...
>>Then the thread about ROO's resemblance to Yes began.

Yes... you're right, it's Yes! That's what
grabbed me too when I heard it...but I
just couldn't place it. Ah, what was the
album "Roundabout" was on... around
'71 or '72?

Kristi
http://www.apolloii.com

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From: music@telisphere.com
Message-ID: <370FA075.45E6@telisphere.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 12:03:17 -0700
Subject: I Stand Corrected (partially.. :)

R.L. Watson put forth:
"You're kidding right?  Brian became a recluse and took lots of LSD as a
"reaction to hearing Sgt. Pepper"?  Now if that isn't an instance of
hyperbole, I don't know what is." (end quote)

On reflection, you're right... I did oversimplify.
I still hold that Brian was intimidated by the Beatles creative work,
AND given the pressure that he felt from those around him, indeed it
probably was the cumulative effect.
On this subject, thought you might enjoy a site that has some
interesting Beach Boy quotes..

http://www.cabinessence.com/brian/essays/quotes.shtml

"Being called a musical genius was a cross to bear. Genius is a big
word. But if you have to live up to something, you might as well live up
to that. God damn!"
     ..................................Brian Wilson, 1988

"Well, yeah, I've had obstacles in my life. And I have a name to live up
to. That alone was a hardship for me, living up to my name. Goddamn was
it hard."
     ..................................Brian Wilson, 1988

"You're called a genius by people, and then your whole life you become
the part."
     ..................................Brian Wilson, 1988

"If there is one person I have to select as a living genius of pop
music, I would choose Brian Wilson."
     ..................................George Martin (Beatles producer)

"But 'Pet Sounds' was not a big hit. That really hurt him badly, he
couldn't understand it. It's like, why put your heart and soul into
something?"
     ..................................Marilyn Wilson, 1966

"In short, Brian Wilson lived in terror of public failure. A lot has
been made of his drug use/abuse, which may indeed have had searing
effects upon him. But it was the public failure of Heroes to to wow
Capitol and thus wow the world that caused him to withdraw."
..................................Jack Reiley

"In Fort Worth, Texas there is a drug clinic which takes people off the
streets and helps them get over bad LSD trips. They don't use any
traditional medical treatment whatsoever. All they do is play the
patient our 'Smiley Smile' album and apparently this acts as a soothing
remedy which relaxes them and helps them to recover completely from
their trip."
     ..................................Carl Wilson, 1970

"I'd swap a lot of the Beach Boys songs for just one 'Michelle.'"
     ..................................Bruce Johnston

"I thought Brian was a perfect gentleman, apart from buttering his head
and trying to put it between two slices of bread"
     ..................................Tom Petty, after eating with
Brian.

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From: fheaney@erols.com
Message-Id: <199904101914.PAA25470@smtp4.erols.com>
Subject: XTC/Burgess again
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:12:49 -0400

Andy Partridge also stated (in the NYC Idiot's Delight interview and
perhaps elsewhere as well) that he took the title for "Fuzzy Warbles" from
"A Clockwork Orange" (film or book, I don't remember).  Alex is in a record
shop and picks up two girls by telling them that he'll take them back to
his place and play them something (Beethoven) much better than the "fuzzy
warbles" they're used to listening to, or something to that effect.

-- Francis Heaney

"Go ahead, take my Steinbeck .sig file, why not?"
   -- me

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Message-ID: <000b01be83eb$2154a060$e4b52299@default>
From: "Joe Funk" <jomama68@email.msn.com>
Subject: PG and XTC
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 02:15:48 -0500

Chalkerz:

I, too, having been "Jonesin" for a the new Peter Gabriel release.

Iain's concern :

>Some non XTC sort of - XTC were out the picture for seven years due to
>record label battles - so what's Peter Gabriel's excuse then ? and even
>worse bloody Kraftwerk. Big fans of both but how long are folks meant to
>hang on ...........

..is also mine!  But there is hope!!  His new recording, titled "Up", is
due for release soon.  His Official web
page,<http://www.realworld.on.net/pg/index.html> , is sketchy on details.
Check it out!!  Patience, my friends...patience! ( He has been very busy
trying to save the world from injustice: Amnesty, and bring the art and
music cultures of the world together: W.O.M.A.D.,etc.)

For what it is... I will not get involved in the Brian Wilson/Beatles
debate due to a very strong case of subjectivity ( My college English
Thesis was on the Beatles' influence on the Popular Culture of the
Sixties!)  I will say, though, that I have been listening to The Dukes'
"Pale and Precious", and appreciate Andy's Beach Boys tribute ( I guess
that what you would call it!).  It sounds more like the Beach Boys than the
Beach Boys ( Steps on toes...hides in corner), if that is possible.  Of
course it's not possible!  Just tryin' to get a rise!!  Also, the ending of
"Your Dictionary" has Pet Sounds written all over it!  Very tastefully, I
might add!

Oh, well...I got myself involved...

"cause a sharp Sputnik has given me a cosmic flat tire"

Jomama

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Message-ID: <370FAEEF.573A7AC9@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:05:03 -0700
From: KenL <herne@earthlink.net>
Subject: Cooking Vinyl says what?

From: Chalkhills 5-167:

>we are thinking of bringing out a 2nd version of AV1 with the Japanese
>booklet + all the demos + more so you might want to wait a couple of
>months?

Really?  That would be a good thing.  Anybody know any details about
this?  If anyone from Cooking Vinyl's reading this...by all means go
ahead and  put this out!  I suspect a lot of us will buy it.  I know I
will.

Cheers,

KL

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Message-Id: <l03110701b33570465211@[206.173.249.186]>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:28:56 -0800
From: Eb <gondola@deltanet.com>
Subject: Re: bubblegum

>From: John Relph <relph@engr.sgi.com>
>
>    Partridge submitted a unique concept to Virgin, which would be titled
>    "The Zither Project".  Virgin would pretend to have acquired the
>    rights to the catalog of Zither Records, a bubblegum pop label of the
>    late 60s and early 70s, and they would release a sampler album.  The
>    album would have twelve bubblegum pop songs with ribald lyrics, all
>    written and performed by XTC under twelve different identities,
>    including The Ten Commandos, Soap With Caramels and The Twelve
>    Flavours Of Hercules.

Not so unique, if you're familiar with the Turtles' catalog....

Eb

PS  I have an advance disc of AV1 in the big "A" sleeve, which I can't use.
If interested, just email me an offer. I'm going to be unsubscribing soon,
so this is probably my last post.

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From: music@telisphere.com
Message-ID: <370FBAC3.2445@telisphere.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 13:55:31 -0700
Subject: Its All Great Music

Duncan Kimball motioned:
"I think the whole idea of trying to determine who is more of a genius
is spurious, and demeans the subjects. They are all geniuses. What is
to be gained by trying to rank them? Its all great music. Enjoy it."

Well said!
(although I do enjoy the intelligent discussion that is stimulated by
some of the opinions given).
Quite an eloquent dissertation on the Brian Wilson vs Beatles thread
Duncan! Rather enjoyed it.
What a sadly poetic story Brian Wilson.
An immense talent before his time...pearls before swine...?
A treasure in a fragile shell..

 - RF (aka Rich Frers)

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From: "Rogerio_Ferraz" <roger@bsnet.com.br>
Subject: I'm back!!!
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 17:59:56 -0300
Message-id: <19990410180221.76e1d88deef011d289960080adb3a5cb.in@bsnet.com.br>

Hello Everyone,

I've been away for a while but I'm back now!! I guess I missed
some interesting discussions... In this period away, I've been
discovering a lot of new new music and you know what...
no matter how many good music I was exposed to, I still consider XTC
one of the best things I've ever heard in my life, and that's why I'm back!
But I'd like to give my opinion on this Beatles X Beach Boys issue
( I don't know how long this has been going on...) : Come on, guys!!
Let's not waste our time discussing who's "better" than who...
Music is not meant to be a championship... There's no point in
trying to compare music in a competitive way... I mean, how can one
say that Starvinsky is "better" than the Beatles... This is totally
subjective and applies to the way that music affect you.
 Let's enjoy and appreciate it, not worrying about "who's better"...
And remember what the great  Frank Zappa said, MUSIC IS THE BEST.

Greetings from Brazil,

Rogerio

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From: music@telisphere.com
Message-ID: <370FD279.64D4@telisphere.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 15:36:41 -0700
Subject: Long Live Dinosaur Rock!

"Yes was the main kind of music I was trying to get away from when I
got into XTC back in nineteen hummity huh.  Does anybody use the phrase
"dinosaur rock" anymore?"

 Ah, sounds like the old teenage rebellion phase..
 Anything my parents (i.e. not our generation) likes is garbage.
 Imagine if people felt that way in general.
 Disregard Michaelangelo, Da Vinci, Salvador Dali, et al.
 After all, they're "dinosaurs"! :)

 Being a guitar teacher and player, I remember young musicians smugly
dismissing   with disdain anything older than last year as being
"dinosaur rock".
 Interesting that these guys usually were newbies on their instruments.
 3-Chord Wonders with little technique. Often art students who'd just
 taken up an instrument recently.
 Easy to dismiss what you don't understand.
 Long live Dinosaur Rock!

  - Rich Frers

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From: Chauncy14@aol.com
Message-ID: <6b3f67b4.24412e30@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:44:00 EDT
Subject: Famous misheard lyric

In Fruit Nut, I keep hearing:

"A man must have his shit just to keep him sane" - in place of: "A man must
have his shed just to keep him sane."

Anyone else hear that?

John Gardner
-Chicago

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Message-Id: <199904102323.TAA05093@lima.epix.net>
From: "Michael Davies" <miser17@epix.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:21:21 -0500
Subject: I like how this list is only a digest, so you have to come up wi

> I've heard "Your Dictionary" on KLYY (Y107) in Los Angeles a couple of
> times over the past week on the afternoon drive time show, each time
> the DJ talked excitedly about the song. Today, he introduced the song

What did they do with the profanity?

Michael davies
miser17@epix.net

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Message-Id: <199904102325.TAA05444@lima.epix.net>
From: "Michael Davies" <miser17@epix.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:24:04 -0500
Subject: Song title

> Whackiest Title for a song:
> All I want for Christmas is a Dukla Prague Away Kit (Half Man Half Biscuit)

Hey my favorite song title has "Prague" in it too!  The Dead
Milkmen's "The Infant of Prague Customized My Van".

Michael davies
miser17@epix.net

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Message-Id: <199904102337.TAA06456@lima.epix.net>
From: "Michael Davies" <miser17@epix.net>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 19:35:08 -0500
Subject: Embarrassing song

I was tired of my lady
We'd been together too long
Like a worn-out recording
Of a favorite song

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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990410201311.010389f4@pop.mindspring.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 20:13:11 -0400
From: "Todd E. Jones" <toddjones@mindspring.com>
Subject: Last Balloon vocaltrumpet -

>Mark R. Strijbos said:
>
>> Also just wanted to say that the last Balloon where Andy's vocals
>> merge into solo at the end is simply exquisite.
>One of my fave moments on the AV1 album also.
>But it does make me wonder a bit... is it real or is it ProTools?

Although I'm more of an analog guy, I hear nothing suggesting studio
trickery, either digital or otherwise. It just sounds like a long held
vocal note that fades out as a long held trumpet note is faded in. I don't
mean to diminish its brilliance- it sounds so delicious, perhaps aided by
the technical simplicity by which it was achieved.

Todd Jones
Manager, Producer, Insect Massage Therapist, Janitor
HUGE sound generation and capture facility
Cape Fear River Basin, NC
http://www.mindspring.com/~toddjones

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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990410180343.006965bc@pop.calweb.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:03:43 -0700
From: Steven Reule <steven@obsessed-with-music.com>
Subject: XTC picture disc

If anyone is looking for the XTC picture disc we just posted one for
auction on ebay at http://www.ebay.com , just search on XTC...

Thanks...

Now back to the regularly scheduled programming. AV1 is great of course.

Steven Reule
steven@obsessed-with-music.com
http://www.obsessed-with-music.com

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Message-ID: <19990411014628.40593.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "kevin donnelly" <kevin_j_donnelly@hotmail.com>
Subject: Fatboy Slim &c
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 18:46:27 PDT

>From Gary Thompson:

>Most Unpleasant Musical Experience:
>Having to listen to Fatboy Slim's album in my mate's car

Well, Fatboy Slim is ok, though I think his stuff is a little 'dead' - ie
devoid of any real life, or energy (samples and big beats not necessarily
counting as lively); and I empathise with having to listen to it a mate's
car - but I can think of worse musical experiences:

Anthem for the Year 2000 - Silverchair.  So they're only 18, who gives a
shit? Their stuff is still wank. "We are the youth.../And we are knocking
on death's door" yeah, really, well change the record guys, we've heard it
before (Joy Division did a _much_ better job of being the youth and
knocking on death's door).

Crush - Jennifer Paige. Yawn.

Chocolate Salty Balls - Chef.  Oh no, wait, I quite _like_ this. But it
makes me a bit cross when this charts and AV1 struggles to.

Believe -Cher. For f***'s sake (a small contribution to the censorship
debate).

Outside - George Michael. Well, yes, it's funny, but that isn't all you
need to make a good record it seems to me.

As for the nicer subject of Sgt Peppers, how about Tin Drum by Japan; Quiet
Life by er, Japan (though this isn't to be taken as an endorsement of the
way they looked); All Mod Cons by the Jam; and Closer by Joy Division. Wait
- and English Settlement too.

Or embarrassing songs much loved: Einstein a Go Go by Landscape; 99 Red
Balloons (in English translation) by Nena (I think, its quite a long time
ago now); She Blinded Me with Science by Thomas Dolby .

Take it easy

Kevin

 - Do not think I underestimate your great concern.

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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19990410213015.00691bc8@mail.pomn.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Apr 1999 21:30:15 -0700
From: QUEENIE <queenie@pomn.com>
Subject: Re: So much to say!

>6 albums that have had a profound impact on me:
>
>Mike Oldfield : Tubular Bells I and II
>XTC : English Settlement
>The Smiths : The Queen is Dead
>Robyn Hitchcock : Globe of Frogs
>Suzanne Vega : Days of Open Hand
>
>The rest are at http://www.bowdoin.edu/~bgott/influx.htm.

I just read this list, and...whoever you are...I think I love you!  You
even have the Soft Boys!  But I think I prefer "Eye" and "Queen Elvis" over
"Globe of Frogs."

Now, if only you'd had more Tom Waits on that list, and I'd be asking to
marry you!

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Message-ID: <371038B2.3B7D2FD2@mediaone.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Apr 1999 01:52:51 -0400
From: Don & Sue Parker <DonSueP@mediaone.net>
Subject: XTC Talk Peppered with Ridiculous Amounts of Yes and Floyd! Yum!

Hi there all you wonderful people!

These threads are getting so convolved that I hardly know where to begin
. . .

But I'm stunned and delighted to see my youthful obsessions and my adult
obsessions melding like this!  I too felt, when I first got into XTC,
that I was finally moving beyond the dinosaur rock of my dimly
remembered youth.  For a long time my two favorite bands had been, #1
Pink Floyd and #2 Yes.  But in 1982, XTC sounded so new, so original, so
_different_ from anything I'd heard before, and certainly light years
beyond the even more ancient Beatles.  Luckily this naive attitude
didn't last long, especially after Mummer came out and I got my first
chance to sit down and actually listen to Sgt. Pepper (doh) . . .

Ridiculous Favorites?:  Bike, Starship Trooper, All Together Now, My
Weapon

Peppers?:  Meddle/Dark Side/Wish You Were Here/Animals/The Wall/The
Final Cut, The Yes Album/Fragile/Close To The Edge/Relayer, Sgt
Pepper/White Album/Revolver/Abbey Road, Drums and Wires/Black
Sea/English Settlement/Nonsuch, Flood (threw that one in there for fun,
which is appropriate because fun is what got it there), and a Cardiacs
release will end up here soon enough (Thanks Dom!), but which one?!

Yes song most reminded of by ROO?:  We Have Heaven

Favorite Voice to Instrument Segue?:  The Gunner's Dream (which of all
the songs where Floyd uses this device, this is the one which TLB echoes
the most, and both give the same goose bumps.)  BTW, The Final Cut is
arguably one of Floyd's most underrated gems, but it pretty much demands
to be listened to while completely alone and with lyrics at hand.  It
can be an emotionally overwhelming experience this way, trust me.

And guess what else?  I finally got Pet Sounds . . .

Don "At least I can write something that _looks_ like a sig file" Parker

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"Truth doesn't demand belief.  Scientists don't join hands every Sunday
singing, "Yes!  Gravity is real!  I will have faith!  I will be strong!
I believe in my heart that what goes up, up, up, must come down, down,
down. Amen!"  If they did, we would think they were pretty insecure
about it."  - Dan Barker

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