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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 152

                  Monday, 29 March 1999

Today's Topics:

                      My Sgt. Pepper
              The Making of Easter Theatre?
              "Push your car from the road"
                     AV1 CMJ Ranking
              comparing oranges with lemons
                 XTC makes CNN's website
                 Oranges & Lemons studio
                    XTC/Simpsons plot
        The Simpsons and XTC and Some Other Things
         And yet another "My Sgt. Pepper" (gasp)
                   crap and stuff Vol 2
                         To what?
     I'm a Pepper, you're a Pepper, he's a Pepper...
               AV1, curries and vegetables
              lurkers' Pepper & breathing...
                  A little non-XTC blurb
                 My Harrison Sherwood...
                My "Sgt. Pepper "as well..
                  Re: HALLMARK GREETING
                       Inner sleeve
               Re: Hey, I've a Pepper, Too!
                    Re: My Sgt Pepper
                    Good on ya, Dom...


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From: David J Arnold <>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 12:12:57 -0600
Subject: My Sgt. Pepper

Although I first heard it seven years after it came out, my "Sgt. Pepper"
was Brian Eno's "Another Green World." It's still my favorite album, and it
opened my mind to the wonderful world of beautiful noisemaking - and Robert
Fripp's guitar solos are fantastic. I'm glad Jill from Austin mentioned him
on this list...

Btw, my first "exposure" to Robert Fripp was David Bowie's "Scary Monsters."
Fripp makes such a racket that Bowie shouts at him to "shut up" on the first
song. It sure sounded bizarre to my 12-year-old ears in 1980...

David in Houston


Message-Id: <>
From: Janis VanCourt <>
Subject: The Making of Easter Theatre?
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:49:02 -0500

Dear Chaw-gills:
Paul Henly wrote (oh, quite a while back, now):
"The news I have is that 'Easter Theatre' is being released at
Easter(!!) as a CD single only. Extra tracks are 'Easter Theatre (Demo)'
and'The Making of Easter Theatre', which is 11 minutes long and sounds
very intriguing."

I wonder if this could include the wonderful segment from Andy's WXRT
Chicago interview, wherein he picked up the acoustic guitar from the
corner of the studio and began demonstrating how the chords and melody
for Easter Theatre came about?  An online friend sent me a tape of this
and I'm finding it so charming, so exciting to hear Andy singing and
playing on the radio -- "performing", in effect, if only for a few

I've always been one of the fans who doesn't really mind XTC not doing
live performances, but hearing this made me *ache* for (or "jones for,"
in Andy's current parlance) an intimate, acoustic Andy performance...
kind of like the "one song, live your living room" question that's been
bouncing around the list. (Personally, I would like to sit Mr. Partridge
down at the piano, cardboard hand optional, and ask to hear "Rook".)

I'll be transcribing the WXRT interview and putting it up on the web
somewhere this weekend.  But I urge anyone who can get hold of a tape of
this to do so -- it's Andy at his funniest, bitterest, and most open.  I
think I'll go listen again....

= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Read the transcript to "The Open Road" KCRW interview with Andy and
Colin at:


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 14:58:57 EST
Subject: "Push your car from the road"

Tyler Hewitt wrote
>You're not the only person to feel that way. Many brilliant, intelligent
people disdain technology and go off to live in the woods somewhere. In
fact, we had an infamous one here in the U.S. recently. His name? Ted
Kosinski-the Unibomber>.

Theodore "Ted" Kuzinski was in fact the FBI's most famous "wanted dead or
alive" public enemy number #1 in the US.

He abhorred technology after an unsuccessful academic career in Mathematics.
Then went reclusive in the woods of the Northwest passage.

There is of course a great distance between Ted and Andy P. when it comes
to socio-economic, cultural and background.  Andy chose not to drive,
favoring toy soldiers, recording splendid music, and being shuttled around
from here and there, while Ted drove when he needed to, making his
deliveries to the us postal services with his next victim's letter-bombs.

The correlations are strong, and the point is well taken, but I cannot
imagine Andy P. taking his views of technology to such a strong degree of
deference that would prompt us to think that he abhors technology by the
use of the lyrics in ROO.

I would tend to think he has the view David Byrne from the Heads has about
things like that, best associated with the song "FLowers."

"There was a parking lot, now it's all covered with daisies"
"You've got it, you've got it."

-John Gardner, Chicago


Message-ID: <>
From: "Sawyer, Keith" <>
Subject: AV1 CMJ Ranking
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 16:09:28 -0500

For the uninitiated, CMJ is a trade journal that collects the playlists of
college radio stations around the US and reports the most popular releases
amongst the sub 92.0 FM set.  After five weeks AV1 is lodged firmly at #11,
down a spot from the previous week.

It was encouraging to see AV1 rise so quickly, especially on a chart where a
good portion of the contributing dj's were in grade school when the previous
release came out.  Also, the promotions company handling the release
(McGathy) claims TVT did not get the disc out to some of the participating
stations, a claim I can personally corroborate.  Our station did not receive
the release until we requested it directly.

Hopefully as more stations receive the cd and jump on board AV1 can
continue to nudge up the charts.  Those college radio listeners on the list
should feel free to enthusiastically request your favorite cuts on your
favorite programs!


"I'm always kidding on about going to Mars for the day,
but faced with the reality of it, in a dream, i was terrified."
-Belle & Sebastian, 'A Space Boy Dream'


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 19:14:32 +0100
From: icarus <>
Organization: strangeways incorporated
Subject: comparing oranges with lemons

> English Settlement will always remain my personal fave because of
> that. Of course I know it's by no means as perfect as Apple Venus (...)

I disagree, Mark. I like Apple Venus very much but I don't think it's as
amazing as English Settlement or The Big Express. In my opinion ES has
no weak moments at all. The AV material is, and let me say it once
again, very good, but it surely can't beat the brilliance of Wake Up,
Yacht Dance or The Everyday Story Of Smalltown.

> Recently there's been speculation about who the youngest list member
> might be. 

I'm a 22 year old puppy doing what I'm told. I assume that leaves me
somewhere in the bottom part ay?



Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:24:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Michael K Ong <>
Subject: XTC makes CNN's website
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.990326132202.28732B-100000@socrates>

I've never seen XTC in so many mainstream media sources - good work TVT!


Message-Id: <>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 13:51:33 -0800
From: Daniel Pinder <>
Subject: Oranges & Lemons studio

I'm now working at the recording studio that used to be Ocean Way in
Hollywood where Oranges & Lemons was tracked. Our Studio One is the room
that is shown in a couple pics in Song Stories. Kind of cool to wander the
halls knowing that O&L was borne of my new workplace. The fact that Pet
Sounds was recorded in Studio Three doesn't cause me any pain either. The
place is now called Cello Studios, LLC.

To those who replied in interest of the Skylarking Promo LP, please be
patient, I'm working in it.


Daniel Pinder


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:34:33 EST
Subject: XTC/Simpsons plot

A Simpsons' episode is a great idea.

How about this?  The Simpsons' visit London.  Bart, trying to live out his
Oliver Twist fantasy (what's the deal with that anyway?), somehow ends up
on the Great Western line and ends up in Swindon.  When the locals see an
American they automatically point him to Colin's shed.  Bart opens the door
hearing "Fruit Nut," and says that they should write a musical.  With
Bart's help they write a musical based around their past songs.  They open
it in London within a week (this is The Simpsons' mind you), it becomes a
huge hit.  Of course Andrew Lloyd Weber claims they stole one of his ideas
and XTC losoes their money.  Maybe they can have a scene thrown in there
with Dave watching "South Park" and saying "No!" when they ask him to help



Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 17:41:07 -0500
Subject: The Simpsons and XTC and Some Other Things
Message-ID: <>

Okay, I'm going to change the subject so people stop picking on me about
the language thing.  You know I don't really being picked on.  Some of
you are too cruel, but this is all I'm going to say on this subject.
Okay, now onto The Simpsons and XTC.  That would be so great.  I love
Stephanie's idea.  Lisa seems the one who would listen to XTC.  She seems
very smart.  I wish I had her brains, maybe Steph you should send you're
idea to Matt Greoning (sp?).  That made me laugh thinking about that.
Thanks for making me feel better after being a butt of people's comments.
 Man, I can't say anything without being ridiculed.  I was just voicing
my opinion like everybody else.  And to Mark, I do listen to their music,
and the language doesn't bother me, I was just thinking of the kiddos out
there.  But you' and everybody's right that parent's need to watch what
their kids are looking at on the web.



From: "Don Rogalski" <>
Subject: And yet another "My Sgt. Pepper" (gasp)
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 07:14:00 +0800
Message-ID: <000001be77de$5509c020$b7fd20a3@user>

"AV"ators of the world:

Finally got AV1 on a trip back to Canada last week (I live in Taiwan),
and was astounded, shocked, and aurally titillated beyond
belief.  In spite of the build up here on this list, I might add.

Easter Theatre floored me.  And I can't get Frivolous
Tonight out of my head.  Love Colin's West English
vowels rhyming on "stout" and "out".

I've found the Sgt. Pepper's thread to be revealing, and
got me thinking about the album that turned me on to
music in a major way.  No, XTC didn't come first, but
in my mind, they certainly don't come last (and yet they
do approach "alpha and omega" status for me - ah, such a
pretty paradox!)

In 1978, at the tender age of twelve, in a small town a few
kilometres south of Canada's steeltown, Hamilton Ontario,
I discovered Jimi Hendrix' Greatest Hits Volume One in
the local library.  I took it home, and was so unnerved and
morbidly fascinated by Purple Haze and Manic Depression
that I started playing the accoustic guitar that my mother
had bought during her hobby period.  That started me off
on the guitar, one thing led to another..

And now I'm an English teacher in Taiwan.

What, you thought this was a Guitar Player magazine testimonial?

It was in high school in the early 80's that the anglophiles
gathered round the temple of punk and new wave.  My
reasons for buying "Snap" by The Jam had more to do
with the mod fashion esthetic than anything else, but
the songs stuck to my throat like the buttoned up shirts
I took to wearing soon after.  Town Called Malice, their
most delicious pop song, somehow led to my third Sgt.
Pepper's, which was "Hatful of Hollow" by the Smiths.
By this time the Hendrix guitar thing had left me cold,
and I eagerly tucked into Johnny Marr's stripped down,
jangly guitar.



Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:47:48 -0500
From: Ian C Stewart <>
Subject: crap and stuff Vol 2

Hi everybody,
here's what I forgot yesterday:

THE DAMNED and FRIPP. I already settled it with the person who
originally posted the query to this list, so I'll tell y'all what I said
Frippy definitely played guitar on "Fun Factory," which was recorded in,
what, 83,84? When Sensible was still with the DAMNED. The single
remained locked in legal limbo until 1990, when the Captain finally
released it on his own label, Deltic. I have the 12" here, on blue
vinyl! The song is absolutely terriffic, one of those sing-songy uptempo
DAMNED tracks that they did so well. And Fripp's contribution is FOCAL.
It's definitely a bizarre highlight. Great song. Act interested and I
could make an MP3 or Real Audio file. If not.. feck ye's!

Crap I forgot Chapter 2: While skimming the Colin article in the latest
BASS PLAYER mag the other day at Best Buy, trying vainly to justify
paying FIVE BUCKS for an article I'll be able to read here for nothin' re-occurred to me that the article in question was written
by PETER MURRAY who is himself no slouch on the bass! The man can slap!
The first mortal I ever saw play a Warwick! I was so impressed with him
(and the others) at the Barrie Convention in 1991. Any other
conventioners wanna get up and sing the praises of Peter Murray? Another
thing about Peter: he did a fabulous reggae version of "Ladybird" for
OBSCENE COLLECTION, the first XTC tribute tape I put out way back in the
olden days of 1992...

I think that's all! Rock.

Ian C Stewart
xtc video:


Message-Id: <>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 20:58:29 -0500
Subject: To what?
From: "Duncan Watt" <>

Bright HS impugned(close your mind-eyes and imagine):

>My Sergeant Pepper was a street-vendor's cry at dawn in Trieste in 1938,
>when Lydia and I became lovers and Hitler annexed the Sudetenland. My
>Sergeant Pepper was an ashtray brimming with Luckies butts as the
>amphetamines kicked in and Ginsberg wouldn't shut up in our dorm room at
>Columbia. My Sergeant Pepper was Claude Shannon's Information Theory being
>recited in the falling snow by a drunk one-legged carnie geek outside
>Kremmling, Colorado as the H-Bomb tests went off at the Bikini Atoll. My
>Sergeant Pepper was the bottle of tincture of merthiolate my mom used to
>disinfect the place where Brucie McPherson hit me with a pine branch. A
>mighty fortress is my Sergeant Pepper.

Shit, and my Sergeant Pepper was Van Halen I.

Duncan Watt (hey, my last name's an anagram!)

ps Stephanie Takeshita, you ROCK.


Message-Id: <4.1.19990326175235.0093a100@wingate>
Date: Fri, 26 Mar 1999 18:14:41 -0800
From: "Suzanne R. Sweeney" <>
Subject: I'm a Pepper, you're a Pepper, he's a Pepper...

Oooh, wrong pop culture reference...sorry about that...accessing...

Andisheh asks:

My Sgt. Pepper was XTC's Oranges & Lemons and The Beatles (White Album). Is
anybody's Sgt. Pepper actually Sgt. Pepper?

Yes, mine IS actually Sgt. Pepper! With an odd story of indecent album
treatment to boot...

It was 1974. I was nine years old. Dad left the apartment to take out the
trash and came back with an armful of albums! Someone had just tossed them
into the dumpster. They weren't dirty or in bad shape, so he decided to
take them out and bring them home. The covers were really colorful and
fun-looking, and since my little sister and I had a small phonograph player
(Y'know the one? Looked kinda like a hard plastic suitcase. Had a handle so
you could take it anywhere. Yeah, that's the one...ah, childhood...), he
thought we might like to have them.

Well, I'm sure ya know where this is going. One of the "trash" albums was
Sgt. Pepper!

I KNOW...ah, the humanity...the Beatles' masterpiece discarded so
callously! What was that person THINKIN'?! Anyhoo, my sister and I nearly
wore the grooves out that album, we played it so much, that one and Magical
Mystery Tour, another album tossed on the ol' trash heap. Incredible, huh?

So, Sgt. Pepper for me is certainly amazing music from the Beatles, but
also great times with my sister and fond memories of childhood...

OK, spew away, but there it is. :-)

Warm regards,


Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 01:23:11 -0800
From: "James  " <>
Message-ID: <>
Subject: AV1, curries and vegetables
Organization: QUALCOMM Eudora Web-Mail  (

Dear All,

I have been away for several weeks, but happily I was accompanied by Apple
Venus 1 on my travels. I dont want to bore you with a review, but just a
few impressions:-

1. I really think that its an excellent album and that XTC have not lost
their touch. The orchestra has been blended in with the other instruments
with characteristic good taste and imagination. Vegetarian alternative (as
Dave Gregory put it) it might be, but its no less tasty for it. I dont
however share the view that it is comparable to Skylarking, which for me is
more of a green salad. No, on second thoughts, maybe Id compare it more to
a damn good soup unnecessarily pureed.

2. Anyway, getting back to AV1, my favourite track is undoubtedly Easter
Theatre. The best orchestral moment for me on the album has to be the
lovely texture behind Easter in her bonnet... And the chord which precedes
the Stage left... vocal is in my top five favourite XTC chords (God knows,
theres plenty of competition).

3. My second favourite is Harvest Festival - the sentimentality of this
song gets me every time. Despite the recorders which, to be honest, I find
a bit too gimmicky.

4. Green Man could in my opinion have been a bit earthier. Or
quirkier. Yes, thats right, quirkier. I find it a bit lightweight, although
its pleasant enough.

5. Im a big fan of Bungalow and Colins songs in general, but Im afraid that
Frivolous Tonight doesnt do anything for me. A bit too Pam Ayres meets the
theme from The Mister Men for my taste. I like Fruit Nut though - nice how
they managed to blend in that distorted guitar.

Overall, a bloody good album. Must admit that Im looking forward to the
curry though!

Happy Easter to you all,



Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 07:46:59 -0800
From: Dan Phipps <>
Organization: CIC
Subject: Question...

Hi all in Chalkville! --

I have a question here re: the "English Settlement"
album on CD...

Is there a version of this CD out that includes the
song lyrics?  I mean, I know all the words to this
classic album anyway, but was just wondering if
others out there possess the same "version" as my

I have the Geffen CD (4036-2) and the "booklet" is
simply a single sheet that opens and contains the
song titles and time signatures on the left hand side.
On the right side of this "booklet" is info on what to
do for best results in listening to this disc.

I used to have the 2-LP ES on vinyl and that layout
was exquisite w/ the two separate record sleeves
containing the song lyrics, who plays what, and pictures

Why couldn't they have put all this on the CD version?

Does this version even exists?  Please advise...thanks!!

AV1 is indeed great, innit?

Later --

/Dan Phipps <>

The two rules of Life:
1.  Don't sweat the small stuff.
2.  It's ALL small stuff!


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 09:39:27 -0500
From: mondacello <>
Subject: lurkers' Pepper & breathing...

I really enjoy reading all the musical awakenings of the Chalkhillian
Clan, it's an interesting mix of memories. And Harrison Sherwood's
rambling take on the theme certainly put a smirk on my face this
beautiful Spring Saturday morning.
Like others, I've had a number of albums that stand out in my life...
songs that you wore out from incessant playing (back in the day of
dinosaurs & vinyl), or wives patience that you wore out from the same.
That's a lie, Barb's a lovely girl with the patience of a saint...
although she's been quite content and pleased with herself since buying
me these new-fangled "HeadTelephone" things...

I suppose each decade that I've been in existence contains a few
standouts, although throughout the sixties I made no LP purchases...
preferring Christmas and birthdays to be filled with G.I Joe and Major
Matt Mason. However, I must say I enjoyed listening to AM radio and
Twisting about to the likes of Johnny Rivers 'Secret Agent Man' and
EVERYTHING by The Beatles.
Flash ahead to 1970 and Led Zeppelin III... everything a 10 year old boy
could ask for and more. And the start of a life-long love of music.
Trying to keep it brief now, others include Floyd's 'DSOTM', Bowie's
'Diamond Dogs' and Elvis Costello's 'Armed Forces'.
The 80's would see XTC's 'Go2' (I know it was released two years
earlier, but that's when I discovered them), Siouxsie and the Banshees
'A Kiss in the Dreamhouse' and The Cocteau Twins 'Treasure'.
The 90's... I'm still working on.

AND, speaking of Siouxsie... the breathing she does throughout
'Obsession' (from 'AKITDH') and 'Obsession II' (b-side of the 'Slowdive'
single'), all I can say is "boi-yoi-yoi-ing!!!"

That is all...

~Mark Kirk~


Message-ID: <>
From: "Amanda Owens" <>
Subject: A little non-XTC blurb
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 11:27:47 CST

I'd just like to take the Chalkhillian opportunity and give a huge
CONGRATS to Mitch Friedman, da man, for his new job. (What is that job?
Well I'm not inclined to say, but I'll give a hint-bababooey.)

And on a more personal note, handed down to me by Mitch was this
comment, one of the best compliments I have ever received in my life.
(Paraphrased of course.)-"She may be only 21, but she has the maturity
of someone in her 30's, whereas my last girlfriend was 36 going on 15."
(See Amanda break into a blissful grin.......)

Tis all for now,
Amanda C. Owens
"It seems the thinkers you call greatest are the sort who often fall ill
young or pine away. how can they help but drag the species down?"-Brad
XTC song of the day-Fruit Nut
non XTC song-Sunny Girlfriend-The Monkees


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 13:48:29 EST
Subject: Simpsons

Aloha ha ha,
 Excellent idea Stephanie! I think the song Lisa plays should be "Leisure".
Great sax solo & it could easily be about Homer. "Lazy bones,look into the
 I believe Harrys e-mail address was just posted.Send away!
    Wishing I was my Dog, Roger
p.s. Speaking of offensive language,why is "shit" the bad word yet we giggle
at "poop"? We humans worry WAY too much


Message-Id: <v03007800b322e478c6a5@[]>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 15:08:57 -0500
From: Erich Walther <>
Subject: My Harrison Sherwood...

You certainly picked a peck of peppers there! Worthy of post of the year
nomination (now there's an idea...mis-heard lyric category, best ranter,
etc); on second thought -

Jeff Beck is back, and bitchin' with new material after a ten year hiatus,
which beats our boys by a bit (XTC content). Nothing groundbreaking if you
know the Beckster, but oh so tasty! For you young whippersnappers, he's no
relation to that Odelay guy ;-)

Kudos to our esteemed moderator: check out some of his other cool pages! Do
you really have a job John, or do you live 30 hour days?

Best breathing?  Somnabulist, of course. So there.

Erich in Ottawa.


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 12:19:50 -0800
Subject: My "Sgt. Pepper "as well..

(Hard to nail it down to just one album...)
Maybe I'm just older than everyone else here, but my Sgt Pepper
actually WAS Sgt Pepper!
Jimi Hendrix/the 1st Led Zeppelin album/The Monkees/
The 1st Rennaisance album(Keith Relf- vocals)/John Hawken -piano)/
The Buckinghams: Portraits...
and others I can't recall offhand..
Certain progressive top 40 also, including:
Itchycoo Park/Incense & Peppermints/It's Wonderful (Rascals),etc..


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 20:23:24 +0000

For anyone who has not visited the Hallmark site, it consists of a cheesy
Easter greetings card with the following message, said to have been placed
by "Enoch Powell".

>The simplest Surrealist act consists of dashing down into the street and
firing blindly, as fas as you can
>pull the trigger, into the crowd.
>-- Andrew Breton, Second Manifesto of Surrealism.

>Love, Andy and Colin

I think that is a seriously sick greeting to put on an Easter card, and if
it is from Andy and Colin, which I doubt, I worry about their state of

Enoch Powell, by the way, was a Right-wing politician who helped inflame
racist prejudices in Britain by predicting in the late 1960s that mass
immigration would result in "rivers of blood". He died a couple of years

So how come people have been posting their admiration for this wholly
dubious piece of crap?


Message-Id: <>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 22:34:47 +0000
Subject: Troll!

Dear Chalkers,

> Andy and Colin's E-card was delightful. Thanks, fellas!

I hate to be a party pooper but IMHO this is clearly a hoax.

I'd say that Andy & Colin would never use the name Enoch Powell -
it's just not funny at all.

Secondly, the surrealist quote used on the inside of the card is
probably a little bit too violent for their taste. Remember: Andy is
the guy who wrote Melt The Guns.

Thirdly (and perhaps most importantly): do you really expect them to
send such a tacky syrupy-sweet Easter card? They could have used one
of those cool  Apple Venus e-greeting cards available on the Cooking
Vinyl site

And lastly: the message was sent by a Jason Kirkland (or similar)
Now draw your own conclusions...

yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse


Message-Id: <>
From: "Michael Davies" <>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 19:12:33 -0500
Subject: Inner sleeve

> GO2 had the Moulding Map of Swindon on the inner sleeve.  On the other
> side of the inner sleeve was a poem written by Andy and some photographs
> taken around Swindon of various people.  It also included a fold put
> poster of XTC with a missing part of text from the back of the cover.

My copy of Go2 just has pictures of two of the band members on each
side (I don't know who's who) and the rest of the text that is
missing from the back cover over one of the pictures.  Is mine weird,
or is yours weird?

Michael davies


Message-ID: <>
From: "frederick rains" <>
Subject: Re: Hey, I've a Pepper, Too!
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 16:23:05 PST

Regarding the "Personal Peppers" thread:
My vote would be for a few LPs, "Oranges & Lemons" because it was my
senior year, my whole life was ahead of me filled with
possibilites...Because everything I loved and felt was baked into one
beautiful record, and because it's me (I know from past digests "O & L"
is kind of a dark horse, or is that black sheep? nay!) I would also like
to put forth the Pixies' devilish "Dolittle", one of 2 albums I still
listen to and fight the urge to sing along in mixed company (O & L is
the other). Finally, a third LP that "changed my life" was the Grays one
and only (literally)"Ro Sham Bo" I think it's pretty cool that these
guys and founder Jason Falkner get occasional mention on this list as
one of the best and smartest American Power pop outfits.
Well, looming outage here, back to the countdown for AV 2!
Fred of Seattle


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 27 Mar 1999 22:08:19 +0000
From: Brian <>
Subject: Re: My Sgt Pepper


>>I'd have to say MY Sgt. Pepper was
>Elvis Costello's Armed Forces. Blew
>my 15 year old rural mid-Michigan
>mind wide open!<

My "Sgt. Pepper"?
There were two - well, maybe three things...

1) was definitely (dare I admit it?) "Cheap Trick at Budokan"... yep,
that was the one that turned me from the disco craze to the rock & roll
craze, and hence -

2) - I would have to say that "English Settlement" is a definite
contender for this title... I've never had quite the same mind-altering
experience with an album before...

3) Being a long-time Oingo Boingo fan, just their very existence counts
to me as much as the Beatles' might have to anyone.

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From: "Toni Adler" <>
Subject: Good on ya, Dom...
Date: Sun, 28 Mar 1999 15:29:24 +1000

Good on ya,  Dom.  You defended yourself most eloquently against Molly's
ridiculous suggestion that we avoid using swear words.  Just thinking about
this absurd proposition is enough to induce a sting of expletives.

Let's just take a moment to consider the crime in question....  Dom used the
term TWAT. Well, shock horror, that's a very little swear word in my
dictionary.  Perhaps, someone in the UK could send Molly a copy of Roger
Mellie's Profanisauris, then she would really have something to complain

The English language is constantly evolving and has embraced several swear
words over time.  The Macquarie Dictionary in Australia, which is very well
regarded, has the F and C word listed as well as twat.  This is not because
it is some kind of blasphemous publication, it's because these words are in
common usage.  Any kid in Australia can pick up a copy of the Macquarie
dictionary.  In fact, I think it might be the preferred dictionary in
schools because it represents our vernacular better than the Oxford
dictionary or Webster's.

Molly, I am sure you're intentions are good if not a little misguided but
you can't protect these teenagers and it is not your responsibility to do
so.  Leave it to their parents as others have suggested.  I think I learnt
most of my swear words as a teenager, so these kids are probably wondering
what all the fuss is about.

Yours in support of colourful language.....toni.


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