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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 14

                 Monday, 9 November 1998

Today's Topics:

                       Paul is Dead
                    Ack, no book tour?
     Re: Squeeze My English Beet (ooh-er, missus....)
               Songs for swinging divorcees
         Re: Ameri-English & Song & Dance Stories
                 Re: (Fwd) additional gig
                       XTC in 1981
                    XTC stuff on Ebay
                     XTC Song Stories
                       franco turra
                      (English) Beat
                      Q101 dises XTC
          Muzak Version of 'Mayor of Simpleton'
                     Book Tour, etc.
                     Transistor Blast
                       NYC In-Store
             Has anyone heard of Random Hold?
                        Oh poopie.
                 new Charts on Chalkhills
                         New band
                   Peter Blegvad Poetry
              NEWS: Andy Partridge Interview
                   ~p@ul's doppelganger


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Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 20:36:00 -0500
From: Ryan Walsh <>
Organization: Boston University
Subject: Rain

	In Song Stories Andy mentions playing "Rain" the night Lennon was
shot.. I assume a tape of this show does not exist, correct?



Date: 5 Nov 98 12:38:47 AED
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Paul is Dead

Jon from the Bank of Kuwait wrote in 'Hills #13:

>>the 3 men crossing the road with a reliant robin registation number TC 15
0Z or something similar in the background.<<

Bloody brilliant!  One of the funniest and cleverest things I've read for
ages in these pages  :-)

Oh, and thanx Mandy Taylor, you're a giant peach.



Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:25:41 EST
Subject: Ack, no book tour?


What?  There's going to be no book tour?  This can't be.  Oh well, let's just
hope they do a signing tour.  I know they're busy with getting Apple Venus
done.  I just knew that they would just do NY, and nowhere else.  Man, this
isn't fair.

I know I'm going to play tons of music from XTC on my radio show.  I have to
wait until I go home for Thanksgiving to get my demos.  I'll play them on my
radio show.  Oh, it's so fun to be a college DJ.

Check out my play list at :


Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:02:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Benjamin Lukoff <>
Subject: Re: Squeeze My English Beet (ooh-er, missus....)
Message-ID: <>

On Mon, 2 Nov 1998, wrote:

>Rob Crawford wrote in #5-12 about The Beat being referred to as The
>English Beat. The same goes for Squeeze - at least in Australia, they
>were always called "U.K.Squeeze". I always assumed this was because there
>was another band working in Australia who had rights to the same name,
>but "U.K. Squeeze" are the only Squeeze I've ever heard of. Was this the
>same in America and other non-British places?

Squeeze was called "U.K. Squeeze" in America for their first album only,
supposedly to avoid confusion with a band called Tight Squeeze, but they
went back to being Squeeze with their second album, in America anyway.  Do
you mean to say that they've remained U.K. Squeeze in Australia to this



Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 10:12:49 +0000
Subject: Songs for swinging divorcees

>From: Dominic Lawson <>
>Subject: Re; Can Can

The message was originally going to be called Can the can, but that would
have been a bit sad and leather clad.

>Rob says:
>>on the subject of Andys taste in music, in early interviews he was
>>always mentioning a Can album

>My guess would be that it was "Ege Bamyasi", easily the best of the
>pre-jazzwank Can albums. "Tago Mago" is another possibility, but I would
>have thought the former was more obviously "funky" on the whole. Buy both
>them just to be sure...

Seems to be the common consensus, to be added to my purchase list after the
1st two Pretty Things albums plus SF Sorrow on CD, Transistor Blast, and
some more 13th Floor Elevators, this could be an expensive month.

Now I will possibly find out if any of the big drum sound of D&W or BS
really fits in with Can.

>Melissa announces:
>>I can tell you. Fanny is such an innocent little word
>>around here

>Apparently so. This reminds me of an episode of "Miami Vice" which I
>to avoid a few years back. It co-starred the spew-inducing Phil Collins

Snipping snipping

>If it had been me, I'd have punched his stupid
>face off. Does this mean that "wanker" is an acceptable word in America

Hmmm I wouldn't normally feel this way about most people but why wait for
him to call anybody a wanker, being Phil Collins is reason enough.

I thought the stumpy sweaty (hairy) one was leaving the UK if Labour came
to power, I'd even pay for the ticket.

Anyway, Paul Hogan had a character called Leo Wanker (but then that's
Austrailian humour for you).

John Wayne uttered the word bollocks in one of his films, it was actually
pronounced 'ballicks', which if anybody has visited the North of Ireland
they will hear that pronnounciation.

I have the vision of a (Northern) Irish born member of the film crew
laughing his balls off at Big John, ad-libbing using a phrase he has heard
on set (the phrase was "your bollocks").

Oh dear a bit lacking in XTC content this time



Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 08:37:02 -0500
From: Alan West <>
Subject: Re: Ameri-English & Song & Dance Stories

Re: recent correspondence concerning cross-Atlantic language oddities:
My g/f goes to South Carolina  every Christmas to visit her parents who
winter there.  There is a dance down there called the Shag, so they have
clubs dedicated to it.  She brought back a bumper sticker about "Shagging
the Night Away" at some shagging club or other and I sent it a friend in
that other chalk-hills county, Sussex, but he's not put it on his car for
some reason.
The country group Alabama also had a hit "Shagging on the Boulevard" a
couple of years ago.  I watched the video, but was disappointed.
Any chalkies from the Southern States should be able to confirm this.  I
wonder if the use of the word `shaggin' in that feeble-but-successful Mike
Myers/Liz Hurley film (I've forgotten the name) has had any impact on
Myrtle Beach or wherever they dance the Shag.


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 08:42:23 -0800 (PST)
From: Brian Danks <>
Subject: Re: (Fwd) additional gig

Recently Russ Reynolds <> wrote to say:
>I was perusing your chalkhills gig list and I didn't see any mention of the
>show I went to in SF.  Black Sea tour, probably right around the UC Davis
>gig (early '81).  California Hall was the venue.  I can't tell you the date
>(guest list--no stub to refer to).  I *think* wall of voodoo and romeo void
>were also on the bill.  Maybe you can put out a call to list members for
>date verification.

That show absolutely took place, as I was there.
Indeed, Romeo Void opened, followed by Wall of
Voodoo, then our boys.  The venue and time of year is
correct, but the exact date escapes me.  Also missing
from the list is a date they played at the Stone in
San Francisco with the Blasters opening.  This was
prior to the California Hall show by (things are hazy
here!)probably 8-10 months.  Both shows were fantastic!

Brian D.


Message-ID: <>
From: "Sawyer, Keith" <>
Subject: XTC in 1981
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:54:04 -0500

The following page reprints fanzine articles by Billy Eye and Judy Zee
out of the early 80's LA scene.

The 4/16/81 review discusses XTC (and Wall of Voodoo), though some fans
may not appreciate the commentary.



Message-Id: <v01540b04b267a645e9cb@[]>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 13:03:56 -0600
From: (John Johanneson)
Subject: XTC stuff on Ebay

Hi all,

I auctioning off some of my XTC stuff on ebay. This includes the eight Extatic
demo CDs, the Kings for a Day and K-Rocking in Pasadena boots, the "Too Many
Cooks" CD3, and the "Mayor of Simpleton" CD3. If interested, pop over
to and search for XTC.




Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 16:40:58 -0500
From: (Bill Peschel)
Organization: The Herald
Subject: XTC Song Stories


I two offers for the XTC Song Stories advanced readers copy, so I
flipped a coin and Eric Miller won. The copy will go off to him in
return for "English Settlement" which I hadn't heard.

I'm still waiting for the end of the month, however, when "Transistor
Blast" goes on sale.

-- Bill Peschel
Book page editor, Rock Hill (S.C.) Herald


Message-Id: <>
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1998 19:03:11 +0000
From: "Daniel Prendiville/Mary O'Dwyer" <>
Subject: franco turra

I'm just dropping you a quick line to let you know that Franco Turra,
perhaps the world's greatest unsigned musician and songwriter, and
contributor to the SKYLACKING tribute tape, has suffered a
bereavement.  His father died a few weeks ago.

Given that Franco has undoubtedly given much listening pleasure to
Chalkhills subscribers, it might be nice if they could return the
compliment, as it were, by passing on their condolences at his sad loss,
either as a group or individually.

Franco's e-mail address is


Daniel's Den -

Tantrum Ego - coming whenever -


Message-Id: <v03007801b267d98a4a7a@[]>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 18:14:52 -0500
From: Erich Walther <>
Subject: (English) Beat

Here in Canada, Ranking Roger et. al were known as the English Beat because
there was another band called the Beat from the States. Actors Equity
doesn't allow two people to have the same name so perhaps it's the same
deal with band names. That and copyright.

So what do we do with Fanny Farmer?  Is she outstanding in her field or
merely ploughing a furrow?

Dom, put all your small change in a jar for a month and you'll have money
for the book, the box, and Christmas!

XTC content (and fun!).  I ran the words 'Andy Partridge' through my
anagram generater and got 11,170 combinations; try it! Here's a sample:

Departing Yard  (working in the shed actually)
Dreading Party (or touring)
Padding Artery  (ob. Guinness reference)
Pendantry Rag Id (well...)
Adapter Dry Gin  (no more Guinness)
Drapery Dang It  (how to keep those gawkers away)
Padding Terry A  (or eh, as here in Canada)
Darting Prayed   (dear God...)
Printed Gray Ad  ('vert for Apple Venus)
Danger Tray Dip  (why he wouldn't eat Dave's cooking)
Danger Yard Pit  (on way to shed)

If you'd like more, e-mail me privately and I'll run more - also Dave and

with a jar full of pennies for a box full of tunes


Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 1998 22:09:50 -0500
From: Benjamin Gott <>
Organization: Loquacious Music
Subject: Local


While waiting to talk with one of my professors, I picked up a copy of the
A&E section of our local newspaper. In it, they profiled a Bath (ME)
singer-songwriter who lists, as heavy influences, Robyn Hitchcock and XTC.
Apparently, this guy's producer had to admonish him for sounding "too
British."  I didn't know that was a *bad* thing...


    Benjamin Gott :: Bowdoin College :: Brunswick, Maine 04011
  ICQ 7737594 :: :: (207) 721-5513
  Visit my website to buy the new album, "Education in Reverse."


Message-Id: <s642acbe.083@OAG.STATE.TX.US>
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1998 08:00:37 -0600
From: Steve Oleson <Steve.Oleson@OAG.STATE.TX.US>
Subject: Q101 dises XTC

Hello all-
In #5-13  (not signed) mentioned that Q101
mentioned that XTC "...should be touring..". This is great
(unlikely) news, but it irritated me to see XTC described as a
"retro band". That's kind of like saying that Picasso was no
longer avant garde, in his Middle Ages ;-)

Am I too sensitive, or what?

Steve Oleson
Austin, TX


Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1998 10:45:25 -0500
Message-Id: <>
Subject: Muzak Version of 'Mayor of Simpleton'

I had to call United Health Care this morning. While on hold, muzak came
on. After one song finished, I heard the familiar opening of 'Mayor
of Simpleton,' and sure enough, that was the tune!

But of course all of the personality was sucked out of the song; still...
I never thought I'd see (or in this case 'hear') the day when one of
XTC's songs was turned into 'Can you hold?' music!


Message-Id: <>
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 1998 08:48:40 +0000
From: Simon Sleightholm <>
Subject: Book Tour, etc.

After a week or so of trying to get the detials of this potential treat I
heard this from Neville Farmer:-

Subject: Re: Book Tour

"You can forget all this. There are no book signings. It took Hyperion two
weeks to answer me but answer me they have and they say they don't know where
the rumours came from. It apparently takes months to organise a book signing
in NY and they didn't have much warning of Andy and Colin's arrival there. But
they will be doing numerous interviews and things are looking good for album
 Talking of albums. I went to the mastering the other night and it was
absolutely bloody marvellous. The "final" track order, if anything is final
on this project is:
1. River Of Orchids
2. I'd Like That
3. Easter Theatre
4. Knights in Shining Kharma
5. Frivolous Tonight
6. Green Man
7. Your Dictionary
8. Fruit Nut
9. I Can't Own Her
10. Harvest Festival
11. The Last Balloon"

That seems to be the facts, folks.


-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-  (
An XTC resource - "Saving it all up for you..."


Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1998 21:40:11 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <>
From: John Relph <relph>
Subject: Transistor Blast


TVT Records USA now has a page about _Transistor Blast_.  Check out for some cool information.

	-- John


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1998 02:16:08 -0700
Subject: Demo-strations

KenL mentioned obtaining a copy of the Nonsuch Demos and "was surprised at
how similar they were to the final versions."

Although I have enjoyed hearing Andy and Colin's demos before the final
album versions, I too have noticed the all too frequent lack of
differentiation between the demo and the final version.  Messrs.. Partridge
and Moulding appear to be too good at crafting their musical visions in demo
form, applying only minor musical nuances and the polish of the recording
studio to the final version.

Which leaves us to ponder: Apart from songs that haven't been officially
recorded, what appeal would a CD of XTC demos have for the non-rabid fan?
And would the existing fan base (that has to have everything) be sufficient
to make such an effort profitable for the band, Idea, Cooking Vinyl, and

Not to say that I wouldn't run out and snap it up if it were released (since
I certainly don't have all the demos), but has Andy or Colin ever produced a
demo that went through major revisions in the studio and emerged
substantially different from it's original idea?!

An example might be to compare the progression of "Strawberry Fields" on the
Beatles' Anthology series to the demo and final version of "Peter
Pumpkinhead".  Perhaps a CD of XTC studio outtakes would be more revealing.

Is the true enjoyment of a demo the ability to trace the musical evolution
and creative birthing of a song rather than listen to the musical equivalent
of a pencil sketch verses its full color rendering?

- John


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1998 11:26:53 EST
Subject: NYC In-Store

Does anyone have any info on the nyc in-store i.e. where and when?  Have
been out of town for a while and I'm going to beat myself silly if I've
missed it..


Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 08:45:51 -0500
From: Dempsey Elks <>
Organization: Alcatel Network Systems, Inc Raleigh, NC
Subject: Waiting...

Decloaking for a moment......
The more I read about the upcoming CD from our boys the more excited I get.
I try to be calm and just wait. It has been a long time and like many here I
guess I just tried not to think about it too much but I'm ready.

Oh by the way who ever said to check out the band "Jump Little Children"
from N.C.  THANKS!  I live in Chapel Hill and just happened to catch them at
the Cats Cradle a few weeks ago and they were excellent. Great live show and
very dynamic.  Check out their CD.



From: sfrankli@ECHG.ORG.UK
Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 15:31:25 +0100

When I ordered my copy of song stories direct from the publisher, I asked
if any promotional signing would be taking place. I was greeted with an
rather incredulous reply of ''  Book signing ?? for XTC ??? oh no ..''
Then we find out that there is a big push down under (oh er) and a signing
session in America ,so why not here, you know where it all started ?

Non related but  There have been a couple of recommendations to buy the new
CD by Elvis Costello and Burt Bacharach.
I took the plunge and can only agree that it is a worth while buy as an
easy listening 'late night' listen.
My only slight doubt with the album is that you could argue that EC tries a
little too hard to sound like Dionne Warwick on occasions. Although
thinking about it his voice is similar in some ways.
 I also bought EC's work with the Brodsky Quartet (The Juliet Letters 1992)
This is harder work but is also a good listen.
I have managed to get tickets to see Bjork performing with the Brodskys at
a small venue in Bristol in early December, which I am looking forward to.

Cant wait to hear 'in your dictionary ' on CD next year.

Steve Franklin


Message-Id: <>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 11:29:58 -0500
Subject: Has anyone heard of Random Hold?

Hi, my name is Steven and this is my first posting to Chalkhills.

Here's a question I've had for years and I think a Chalkhill member may be
able to help me.

Former XTC drummer Terry Chambers played in a group called Random Hold at
one point. I think he joined after English Settlement following his
departure from XTC.

All I know about Random Hold is I think they are English and they must have
been recording around the late 70s early 80s. Also, Peter Gabriel's
guitarist David Rhodes played in Random Hold at one point. On Gabriel's
third solo album (Rhodes' first) Rhodes is listed as "courtesey of Random

Anyway, here's my questions:

Who played in Random Hold? How many albums did they record and is there
anything available on CD right now? What kind of music was it? If anyone out
there has ANY information (bio or otherwise) on Random Hold, I sure would
appreciate if you email me or post it on the list. With players from XTC and
Peter Gabriel's band, the music must have been interesting to say the least.

Thank you very much,



Message-ID: <>
From: "Amanda Owens" <>
Subject: Oh poopie.
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 1998 06:03:34 PST

Tis a shame there will be no actual book "tour". Oh well, que sera sera.

Alright, I know everyone's sick to death of me doing this, but yes, I
need some help figuring out a song I can't get out of my head. I think
it's called "C'est La Vie". (No, not the ELP or Robbie Nevil versions.)
It's sung in half English, half French. I looked up the song on some
search engines, and the name of a German artist, Hubert Kah, came up.
When I read the lyrics, they did look a bit familiar. It's a gorgeous
song, and I would love to find it somewhere. Got any ideas?

Tis all for now,
XTC song of the day-I Sit In the Snow
non XTC song-Pretty Fly For a White Guy-The Offspring


Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 10:37:19 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <>
From: John Relph <relph>
Subject: new Charts on Chalkhills


Our own Tim Harris <> has contributed
a few new charts for some Dukes of Stratosphear ditties, including
"Shiny Cage", "Your Gold Dress", "My Love Explodes" and "25 O'Clock".
The first two are available right now and the second will be up on the
site very soon.  Check 'em out at

Thanks, Tim!

	-- John


Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 20:47:23 +0100 (MET)
From: Martin van Rappard <>
Subject: New band
Message-ID: <>

Came across the following on the sonicdeth homepage:
* -------------------------------------------------
Seagulls Screaming Kiss Her Kiss Her Pink Soda 7" -- Japan's Seagulls
thrilled the pants off of all present while
opening for Sleater-Kinney at last years YoYo with some of the best
guitar driven indie-pop I've heard in ages w/bass lines to
groove to and vocals to swoon to. This 7" is their first US release and
the two songs just so happen to by my favorites from
the live set. (hooray!) Now that it's finally getting to stores, it's
time to go buy it.
Has anyone ever heard them?



Message-Id: <>
From: Janis VanCourt <>
Subject: Peter Blegvad Poetry
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 16:36:36 -0500

Does anyone know if there were ever any Blegvad books published?

I'm looking specifically for the transcribed words to Night of the
Comet, Balloon, Beetle, Savannah.  But I'm interested in reading more of
his poetry, too.

Also, are Blegvad's albums mostly spoken-word or actual songs? Which
titles would you recommend for someone (me) who tends to appreciate the
words over the music?

Janis in NY (waiting and wondering if Andy, Colin and Neville made it to
the USA this week or not)


Message-Id: <>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <>
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1998 23:09:24 +0000
Subject: NEWS: Andy Partridge Interview

Dear Chalkers,

A new, full-length and in-depth interview with Andy Partridge will be
online at my site as from Wednesday November the 11th
(i'm sure i don't have to remind you that's Andy's birthday :)

Don't miss it - it's quite refreshing and covers a lot
of diverse subjects instead of just the same old standard questions
and it's stuffed with those typical Partridge jokes and jests.

This interview has been conducted a couple of weeks ago by Paul
Culnane and parts of it will be used in a 3 hour XTC special on
Sydney radio station 2RDJ-FM but the complete transcript
of the conversation will be available on the Little Lighthouse only.

Surf to


and follow the link...

yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos
Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse


Message-Id: <>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1998 09:42:02 +1000
Subject: ~p@ul's doppelganger


I made the great trek north to Sydney recently, the main purpose being to
propose to my girlfriend (she said *yes*, so I expect virtual roses from
each and every one of you). While there, I took the opportunity to seek out
the few remaining XTC albums I hadn't heard, and actually found one in a
small music store I'd never seen before. Upon grabbing their solitary copy
of "Go 2" (the first copy I'd ever seen of that album, actually), I took it
to the counter and was confronted by....Paul Culnane.

Or so I thought - the guy behind the counter could easily have been his
twin brother. He recognised the all-black-with-white-text cover of the
album and said, "Ah, XTC - that's a great album, isn't it? I've always been
a huge fan".

My message to the rest of the Chalkworld : the Scots might have mastered
the cloning of sheep, but in Sydney, they've started cloning Chalkhillians.
Be afraid - be very afraid....


"My brain is my second-favourite organ" - Woody Allen.


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