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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 130

                 Thursday, 11 March 1999

Today's Topics:

                       Re: Dave G.
        Muzakal xtc: mall, airport, hardware store
                      hostage deal?
                     AV in Aussieland
                    some observations
                       Number One!
                     AV2 Drummer Info
                      Re: The Usual
                     Nelson's... arm
                    Peter Paul Weller
               Re: Stage Left! Stage Right!
                    Re: davidoh & dom
                  Re: A bit of a shower
             Re:Fruit Nut: The Misheard Lyric
                     Sampling Issues
                bouncing off church walls
                      andy's bluff?
                  Re: shocking 5 digests
                   I'm Millenium Bugged
                       Re: Sampling
      Chicago listees at attention! (Plus a riposte)
                    Keyboard concerns
                       Beauty & XTC
                     Xtc back catalog
                   demos and (non)such
         Bass Player interview of Colin Moulding


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Message-ID: <>
From: "Amanda Owens" <>
Subject: Re: Dave G.
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 22:55:56 CST

Hello der.....

Philip Lawes did sayeth:

>Although he's damning with faint praise a little he's not being  entirely
>negative about DG.  Having said that, of course, you'll find no  shortage
>of AP slags off DG quotes in this and other interviews

And you'll find no shortage of AO slags off AP in her furious brain.

>putting part of
>the blame on what he perceived as diabetically induced mood swings.

Pardon my French, but RI-FUCKING-DICULOUS!

> personally have great admiration for
>anyone with diabetes who has the discipline to survive the
>irregularities of the musicians lifestyle, let alone enjoying touring.

Here here!

>I can't believe that the split happened just because Dave had been half
>an hour without a Mars Bar though.

Try telling that to that spoiled brat.

Belinda Blanchard did sayeth:

>Good evening and welcome.
>Mr Sherwood wrote "Dave Gregory, the only unmarried and childless
>member of the band,"

Oh I can take care of that one. ;)

Tis all for now,
Amanda C. Owens
"People will always be tempted to wipe their feet on anything with
welcome written on it."-Andy Partridge
XTC song of the day-Harvest Festival
non-XTC song-From a Moving Train-America


Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 21:53:20 -0800
From: Andy Kreyche <>
Subject: Muzakal xtc: mall, airport, hardware store

Hey to all-

I was amused to read about others' encountering xtc songs in public
places. Finally some exposure!

I was pleasantly surprised recently to hear King For A Day (the original
version) while shopping for a doorknob at the hardware store. It took a
few seconds to adjust to the odd surroundings and the tinny speakers,
but it was great to have a spot of random xtc where one would least
expect it.

Go ahead Muzak: saturate the masses. Perhaps one day  . . . Travels In
Nihilon, played in the supermarket.

Do you s'pose the boys make anything off this sort of airplay? It would
be a shame if it's all going to Virgin.

Oops. Gotta get back to lurking.

-Andy K.


Message-ID: <>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 19:17:21 EST
Subject: hostage deal?


I'm going to make the chords for all of the Apple Venus songs (at least,
those with chords in them).  Probably do most of it tonight (3/9), in fact.

I want those demos that are floating around for the rest of the Apple Venus

I have nothing to trade, I don't generally collect tapes, I don't have any
tapes, I don't tape things.  But I can transcribe just about anything.
Would it be fair to ask for a couple of cassettes in exchange for the
couple of hours it will take me to figure out these tunes?  I don't
normally sound this greedy, but....



Message-ID: <>
From: "* Hobbes *" <>
Subject: AV in Aussieland
Date: Wed, 10 Mar 1999 23:05:27 PST

Despite all claims to the contrary there is STILL no sign of Apple Venus
on general release in Australia, so i'd opt for the date i was
originally told by the company:  March 27.  All i can say is HOORAY FOR

I've lived with this album for a week now, and it's a corker.  But we
all knew that didn't we?  ;-)  No point reiterating what's been said
over and over really....

Ok, just one thing:  Colin's *amazing* bass on the "Green Man".

All right, two things:  All of "Easter Theatre".  In a perfect world
this would be a hit single and fund the next three xtc albums, but this
is hardly a perfect world.  Another gem that us priviliged few can share
in the beauty of.  Guess it makes it much more precious.  This song
makes my body shiver EVERY time i hear it.

Make that three:  There's only been two of the new demos that i've
actively disliked.  One being the turgid "Wounded Horse" (strikes me as
a generic song, could be any band really) and the cheesy easy listening
wimpfest of "I can't own her".  So how on earth did the latter end up
being one of my favourite songs on the album? What on earth happened?


Anyone else want to nominate singles?  My picks:  Easter Theatre, Green
Man, Your Dictionary and Harvest Festival.


Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 01:43:24 -0800
From: Daniel Marmer <>
Subject: some observations


At the Borders Books signing in Chicago, someone brought an electric guitar
for Andy to sign.  It had a number of autographs on the back which Andy
perused.  He then put the guitar under his arm and took a few strums.  I
wasn't able to hear anything, but I intensely savored the vision of Andy
playing a live guitar approximately 30 feet from my face.

When I finally got to the front of the line for my autographs
(approximately 3.5 hours after it started), Andy still seemed genuinely
pleased that this many people showed up for the signing.

Anyway, I've been seeing plenty of posters for AV I in record stores around
Chicago.  TVT seems to be putting some weight behind this album.


Daniel Marmer <>


Message-ID: <000b01be6b96$b83378c0$198742d8@compaq>
From: "Ozium" <>
Subject: Number One!
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 00:11:07 -0800

Just thought everyone might like to know...

I am a manager at a record store in Vancouver, Canada (one of a major chain
of Canadian stores), and Apple Venus has gone to number ONE on our chart.
The album has been the consistent best-seller in the store for the last two
weeks and has sold completely out three times. As of this afternoon,
actually, we've sold out again!

Way to go...

Do what you will but harm none.


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 05:27:11 EST
Subject: AV2 Drummer Info

   First of all,I find the term "lurker"mildly unsettling;As a former
"lurker",am I required to register with local authorities now that I've
moved into your neighborhood,such as it is?

  Anyway,I've enjoyed all the accounts of recent XTC encounters,but felt no
compulsion to relate my own experience(unspectacular as it was)until trying
to digest the gluttonous feast of recent Chalkhills postings.

Someone asked about likely drummers for the next album and since no one has
addressed it so far,altruism has forced my sweaty,hunting-and-pecking hand
to share the following:

 I attended the arctic campout at the Tower Records in NYC hoping only to
be a fly on the wall for a Q&A session and,therefore,totally unprepared
w/questions of my own.The next day(or so it seemed),when my turn came,I was
struck by how much the event resembled the procession of children to meet a
department-store- Santa,so I rattled off my wish list to Colin & Andy.Colin
was(rightly)perplexed,while Andy(politely)laughed.  I was bombing(you think
my hands are sweating NOW?)! Bravely soldiering on,I asked if they intended
to employ an additional guitarist for AV2(intending to cast my vote for the
brilliant multi-instrumentalist Jon Brion) but Andy assured me that both he
and Colin are each extremely competent guitarists and bassists! In my
stammering delirium,I neglected to ask if there will be any keyboards(Jon

When he mentioned re-cutting the existing AV2 tracks,I asked(hopefully) if
Prarie Prince would again be employed to which Andy replied that there's a
good chance that DAVE MATTACKS will do the drumming(there's your payoff for
wading through the proceeding verbal swamp.Sorry).  Then I asked my heroes
to look awestruck as I pretended to autograph AV1 for them for the benefit
of my girlfriend's camera.They continued to humor me and complied.

   Finally(I swear),before I slither back into the shadows to lurk again:

         Does the "Pentium" jingle/arpeggio trigger "Vanishing Girl" in anyone
else's mind?

        Does the opening of "I Can't Own Her" evoke Conan O'Brien's "In the
Year 2000"?

      If any of you are fortunate enough to own Bruford's mostly awesome
"Feels Good to Me",do the rotating goose honks/violins at 2:15 in AV1's
even-more-awesome "Easter Theatre"sound familiar?

Send demos-no,really,



Message-Id: <4782AD6ADDBDD2119B570008C75DD5C1021F14@MGMTM02>
From: Lawson Dominic <>
Subject: Re: The Usual
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:57:21 -0000

>>wow, dude, like, take a chill-pill, will ya?!? i mean, c'mon, dom do you
>>really have to make things _so_ personal? to disagree with someone's
>>opinion is one thing, but _must_ you take personal shots at other people?

No, not really. In fact, as far as I was aware I hadn't. OK, it might
feasibly read like a personal attack, that is if you completely suspend
your sense of humour and read all sorts of dark, menacing, psychological
significance into my every word, but yet again I was using hyperbole and
yet again you're getting excited over nothing. I've just re-read it, to
make sure I hadn't turned into Mussolini or something, and apart from a
couple of mild insults ("prize penis" which is hardly the rudest thing I've
ever heard, and "twat" which wouldn't even offend my mum) there's nothing
remotely offensive or even contentious.

I totally disagree with everything the "this album blows" guy said, and
wanted to express this in the list. Not terribly subtle, as per usual, but
it was meant to be funny. You didn't find it funny, so don't laugh. Simple.
If people are so sensitive that we can't even say "you're talking out of
your arse" occasionally then there's little point in discussing anything.
How about a thread along the lines of "XTC - are they any good?". That
would be nice and cozy for everyone wouldn't it?

Thanks for getting my entire post shown again though! Very kind.


Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:03:59 +0000
From: Philip Lawes <>
Subject: Nelson's... arm

I just spotted the 'joke' in 'I'd Like That'.

>If I could row your heart and head
>With you laid on one arm
>I'd be your Nelson if you'd be my Hamilton, what fun

Nelson  - one arm, geddit? Ithangyou, thangyouverymuch.

Alternative AV2 titles?  How about 'Don't Complain'?

(You Lucky People*)


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 06:32:12 EST
Subject: Peter Paul Weller

Thw mole said in 5-122

>>> If you start AV1 at the very same time that Paul Weller's name comes up
>in the opening credits of Robocop <<
>I can just imagine him staggering around Detroit twatting every criminal in
>site with hiw Rickenbacker singing "Down in a Tube Station at Midnight" as
>he clears up the Underground.
>Good to see that he managed to find another job once people realised The
>Style Council was a sack of shite.

  Actually, the Robocop guy was Peter Weller, as far as I know no
relation(he was also Buckaroo Banzai a few years earlier, one of the oddest
movies I ever saw). I do agree that The Style Council was a sack of shite,
though, aside from the occasional tossed-off raveup like "The Walls Come
Tumbling Down."  Paul Weller's more recent solo albums are a big
improvement; not quite up to The Jam at their peak(Setting Sons, Sound
Effects), but at least his pitiful attempts at being soulful are dispensed
with for the most part. A guy with as limited a voice as his has no
business trying to sound like a black R&B singer. No, Paul, no!



Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:24:50 -0500
From: Raul Escudero Jr <>
Subject: Re: Stage Left! Stage Right!

Martin wrote:

"My favorite AV1 stereophonic moment is on "Easter Theatre" when the
backing vocals "Stage Left" and "Stage Right" come in through alternate
channels of the stereo. BUT, "Stage Left" comes in through the right
channel and vica versa. Are my headphones wired around the wrong way (no, I
don't have them on back-to-front!)? Assuming they're OK then is this some
theatrical convention in that what appears to the audience to actually be
the left hand side of the stage is actually referred to as Stage Right, i.e
is it the right hand side of the stage from the _actors'_ perspective??? If
this is the case then is the stereo image designed to mimic what the
audience is "seeing" in the theatre?"

You are correct.


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 08:37:55 +0000
From: Brian <>
Subject: Re: davidoh & dom


Boys, boys!

* Digital & traditional illustration/animation
* Caricaturist-for-hire
* RENDERMAN ~ One-Man Band Ordinaire


From: (gARetH baBB)
Subject: Re: A bit of a shower
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:44:46 GMT
Message-ID: <>
Organization: Gink

In message <>,
 (Steve Pitts) wrote:
> In 5-118 Michael Davies asked:
> > what does "we're a bit of a shower" mean? <
> I would say a rabble, but I'll resort to the dictionary for an official
> definition:
> "shower n. 5. Brit. slang - a derogatory term applied to a person or group
> esp. to a group considered as being slack, untidy, etc."

"Shower of piss".


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:08:36 EST
Subject: Re:Fruit Nut: The Misheard Lyric

>Upon first listen, my girlfriend heard a line in Fruit Nut as:
>Spraying my butt
>Spraying my butt
>Got to keep away diseases

>It's now what we sing when the song comes on.  Romantic, eh?

>What are some of your better misheard lyrics from AV1?

Ha, Ha, Ha  LOL.....

I thought I heard the "A man must have a shed to keep him sane" part as "a
man must have a Shit to keep him sane."  I'll go wipe now.



From: "Bill Curran" <>
Subject: Sampling Issues
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:28:11 -0500
Message-ID: <007e01be6bcb$64650df0$>

On  Date: Tue, 9 Mar 1999 17:14:12 -0600 (CST)
One  Marshall Joseph Armintor <> did say :
>   ...snipped ...
> for any reason.  Example: the firestorm over the Verve's using a
> symphonic Rolling Stones sample ("The Last Time") in "Bittersweet
> Symphony," which resulted in Mick and Keith appropriating ALL the
> songwriting royalties from that tune -- although they only used that
> strings loop, and the Glimmer Twins didn't have a thing to do with writing
> the words, melody, or anything else.  More of a punishment for the
> Verve without having "properly" cleared it, I think.

Methinks you read this one wrong. The original song "Bittersweet
Symphony" was an instrumental piece on an album released by Andrew Loog
Oldham of Rolling Stones fame. The tune was composed by said Glimmer
Twins. I think the artist was listed as "The Andrew Loog Oldham Orchestra"
or something, it was along time ago, and the mind is kinda fuzzy. Keith and
Mick could not take any credit for the words, but the music was pretty much
note for note.

XTC Content : Quick take on AV1 - it is the first XTC album that I
connected with every song on first listen, and I hope that doesn't mean
that they will fade quickly. All the other albums crept up on me, slowly,
to take firm root in my psyche. Colin's songs are very Harry Nilsson-ish in
a British sort of way, superb, simple, comfortable songs that feel like a
old friend. Andy's songs are brilliant. I can't come up with a better word,
or words, yet.

Bill Curran


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 05:55:19 -0800 (PST)
From: nross <>
Subject: bouncing off church walls



did someone already put this suggestion up?
If not, what's the point in being modest...
I must come up with EVERYONE'S album titles...
Today the record business... tomorrow the world ;-)

-xtc rules, there's my obligatory xtc content.



Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:52:04 EST
Subject: andy's bluff?

Read the transcript of the online chat, in which Andy said:

Question: Thank you for "Apple Venus"! Why is there no XTC sheet music in
print? A complete songbook would help all of us struggling musicians decode
your secret chords! Please consider it!

Andy Partridge: There was a book called "11 Different Animals" that had 11
of our singles. I've heard you have to pay these music book companies to
get these books into circulation. I don't know how it works, but if there
is somebody out there that wants to spend the time with us working it out,
I'm sure we'll do it.

Colin Moulding: I'm sure Virgin would have done it.

Andy Partridge: But if there's somebody out there who wants to help, get in
touch with TVT Records.

****************Here I am.



Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 07:46:50 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <>
From: John Relph <>
Subject: Re: shocking 5 digests

Mitch Friedman <> wrote:
>Just some reponses to comments and questions from today's shocking 5

Actually, there have never been more than three digests sent out on
any given day.  Don't you read your email over the weekend?  :-)

	-- John


Message-Id: <>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:00:41 +0000
Subject: I'm Millenium Bugged

Dear Chalkers,

Jill Oleson said:

> My personal observation is that as we move closer to the coming
> century, we are as a group allowing more beauty in our lives. I'd
> like to think that "Apple Venus, Volume 1" is emblematic of that
> notion.  What do you think?

A very interesting idea...

Perhaps this is the hidden concept we've been looking for!
I'm sure the dawn of a new millenium must be bugging good old pagan
Andy, even if he is a powerful warlock or indeed the Greenman

Maybe Volume I contains hidden clues and messages to help us and
guide us through to the year 2000; the year when all will be revealed
on Volume II.  Like maybe we should all start tending our fruits
because the global fruit distribution network will grind to a halt.

"failing crops and exams", "leave our stocks and invoices to rot"

Oh my god, it's all starting to make sense now! And the grand finale
The Last Balloon makes it perfect clear : we have to get out of here,
and fast!

PS: please do not point out that the new millenium doesn't start
until the year 2001... i know, but the rest of the world just doesn't

yours in xtc,

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 06:32:17 EST
Subject: Re: Sampling

>Tyler, who exactly gets to decide whether a sample has been adequately
>recontextualized? And if it's not, who should get paid? and how much?
>Example: should Jimmy Page have been paid for the sample of Led Zeppelin's
>"Kashmir" that Puff Daddy used to fashion the Godzilla movie theme? Was it
>unfair that Zep had to pay Willie Dixon for their version of his song, or
>was it just a collage?
>This is a very, very important topic. Please reply

  My understanding of the laws concerning sampling is that technically
you can sample up to a certain number of bars of a song without
getting permission.(I'm not sure how many, but I'd be surprised if
it's more than four) This doesn't concern sampling specifically but I
believe stems from folksingers borrowing portions of other
songwriter's songs to "write" their own. The smart ones would change
the key and feel slightly and they'd be able to pass it off as their
own. As for sampling, you can also get away with as much as you want
as long as you render it so unrecognisable that the writer of the
original song doesn't recognise it. Obviously there's a lot of grey
area and room for playing fast and loose with the rules, and if you're
a penniless street musician stealing from Paul McCartney probably
you'd get away with it.  I'm only dredging up dusty old memories from
old issues of Keyboard Magazine, which has done articles on the

  As for Jimmy Page, he doesn't have a leg to stand on, just ask
Robert Johnson(if you can find him at the crossroads), Jake Holmes,
and Bert Jansch, to name but three of the talented songwriters he's
stolen whole songs and compositions from and claimed them as his
own. Holmes and Jansch are very much alive, and would probably tell
you what they think of Jimmy Page. Holmes has a song called :"Dazed
And Confused" that's THE SAME SONG as the Led Zeppelin song of the
same name, but the feel is just different enough that it's obvious
Page liked the song, changed just a little bit of it so he couldn't
get sued, and figured Holmes was obscure enough that nobody would



Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA00040058069DA039@NT6>
From: "Wiencek, Dan" <>
Subject: Chicago listees at attention! (Plus a riposte)
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:33:28 -0600

To all Chicago-area listees:

Tomorrow, WXRT will be Friday-Featuring XTC along with Sting/The Police.
They will also be re-running Tom Marker's interview with Andy at around
7:30-7:45 in the evening.  If you missed this, you really must try to catch
it; Andy provides a great explanation (w/ acoustic guitar) of how he wrote
Easter Theatre.

Mitch, bringer of many good things, wrote in response to my post:

First of all, Andy was not fibbing about there not being enough songs for
AV2 but if you read what I said he said a bit closer you'd see that what he
told me was that he didn't think the songs they had chosen were quite good
enough and wanted to round up a few more good ones for the album. There are
reasons why they chose not to record some of the ones from the '95
demos. Those reasons being that he didn't think they were good enough and
he didn't want to record them.

No, I understand that.  Perhaps I should've asked Andy if it were true there
weren't enough *good* songs for AV2, but I didn't want to sound insulting
and I kinda figured he'd know what I meant.  He obviously didn't.  It's not
a big deal; I was just having fun and have no desire whatsoever to give Andy
a wedgie, a wet willie, a titty twister, a hertz donut, or any other
childish form of punishment, and I happily expunge his demerits from the

And if I'm remembering my egotistical prick comments correctly, the listee
who posted that was quoting someone else (I believe his sig-o), not his own
opinion.  It unfortunately confirms Andy's judgment that the comments
reproduced in Song Stories serve to make him look bad.  Makes me wonder if
all is still well between the band and Neville.

Au revoir, and don't forget to tune in tomorrow ...



Message-Id: <>
From: David J Arnold <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 10:51:49 -0600
Subject: Keyboard concerns

I know everyone has been lamenting the loss of Dave Gregory on guitar, but
what about Dave Gregory, master keyboardist? His keyboard work, especially
from 1983 onwards, has been wonderful, and I don't think Andy or Colin is
nearly as gifted in that area. Do you think they might bring someone else in
(or, maybe, find a piano-playing producer)?

- David in Houston


Message-ID: <65B793F0016DD11196E800A0C96034360FEC94@FS_1>
From: Sheridan Zabel <>
Subject: Beauty & XTC
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 11:22:37 -0500

Hello all Chalkers:

I am writing in response to Jill Oleson's post regarding the 1990's view
of beauty.

I am also baffled by people's obsession with ugliness.  As an art
historian, I have studied the most beautiful artwork in the world.  I
pride myself on having cultivated an excellent aesthetic sense.  Yet I
feel completely detached from most people in today's world, even today's
art world.  But especially the music world.  I hear the absolute
grating, and frankly quite frightening, voices of people like Rob Zombie
getting a ton of airplay and I wonder why this has become the more
acceptable art.  Why is the world listening to something like this when
they could be listening to XTC or something comparable. I hear the
haunting melodies and beautiful orchestration of people like Andy and
Colin and I wonder why more people aren't listening to these inspiring

So here's my advice to all of us out there who appreciate beauty and
good music: keep trying to spread the word of good music and good art to
all.  Perhaps we can all change this scary trend!


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:17:18 -0800 (PST)
From: Tyler Hewitt <>
Subject: Xtc back catalog


Is Idea going to buy up the back catalogue and do a ripper job of
re-releasing the original albums with bonus tracks?

I myself am hoping that Virgin will give the rights to the back
catalog to XTC, and that XTC releases them to Rykodisc. Ryko has a
proven track record with back catalog reissues-check out the Elvis
Costello and David Bowie reissues for proof. Digital remastering,
bonus tracks, extensive liner notes, great packaging, lots of artist
control through the entire process-its exactly what XTC need for the
back catalog.

on a different topic: lots of mention has been made here about the
U.S. and British chart positions of AV1. Does anyone have access to
sales charts from other countries? I would be interested to see how
its doing in other markets.


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 09:15:51 -0800
From: Dan Duncan <>
Subject: demos and (non)such

i'm new to chalkhills, but have been an xtc fan since the release of
english settlement (1982), when i was about 13.
my question is this: where are you people getting hold of all these
demos? lots of people are comparing the album AV1 to the demos they
heard before its release. where did you get them and how do i get them?
put me down for one set of AV2 demos as soon as they are "available".
my favorite song from the new album (this minute) is 'greenman' with
'easter theatre' a close second.
one other thing i'd like to toss out there: with the exception of one or
two songs 'nonsuch' is one of my favorite albums of all time. when i go
through my stacks and rediscover xtc (about every 3-4 months) 'nonsuch'
is the album that gets played and fawned over the most. i wish 'smartest
monkeys' had been shunted off to some scrapheap release like 'rag &
bone..' and 'wardance' i often skip over, but every other song on the
album is an emotional, artistic feast for me. i'm only saying this b/c i
hear the album getting bashed alot and i see it in the bins for $6.95
new, and it burns me up. i feel like the album is being overlooked by
xtc fans the same way xtc is overlooked by people this world over.
i welcome anyone's thoughts on the subject.

skylarking on company time,


Message-ID: <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 12:11:03 -0800
From: Peter Murray <>
Organization: Thermidor Music
Subject: Bass Player interview of Colin Moulding

XTC fans (and Colin Moulding fans especially)
should know that there's a feature on Colin
in this month's Bass Player magazine (Apr. '99),
written by yours truly.

It was a fantastic interview, conducted on
October 9, '98 in Colin's home. Tape was rolling
for three-and-a-half hours, and this may well be
the most in-depth interview to date about Colin's
playing, writing, his working relationship with
Andy, his methods, favourite music, and much more.

The "out-takes" (there are many) of the interview
will be published in the upcoming Little Express
XTC fanzine published by Pete and June Dix
(write to L.E. Box 1072, Barrie, Ontario, Canada
L4M 5E1 to order -- it's a GREAT publication)

After that, I will put the interview online.
In the meantime, buy Bass Player and order
the Little Express!

Peter Murray


Message-Id: <4782AD6ADDBDD2119B570008C75DD5C1BA0C@MGMTM02>
From: Lawson Dominic <>
Date: Thu, 11 Mar 1999 17:53:32 -0000

I'm getting old. Not sitting-in-plastic-pants-full-of-three-week-old-poop
old, but old nonetheless. It crept up on me, like bad wind, and threatens to
trample on all my adolescent dreams. Where once I was lithe, lean and many
other things beginning with 'l' I am now increasingly flabby, woefully unfit
and losing my few remaining marbles with alarming speed. And I'm only twenty
six. "Apple Venus Vol.1" doesn't bloody help much either.

It suddenly dawned on me when some oily cove remarked that "River Of
Orchids" was rather reminiscent of "Orinoco Flow" by that talentless Celtic
purveyor of poop, Enya. A ghastly piece of crap at the best of times, but so
far removed from the spirit of XTC's new works of genius that I could feel
the testosterone and moral fury surging through my veins......IT DOES NOT
SOUND LIKE BLOODY ENYA! Or at least that's what I said, knowing full well
that the comparison was not entirely unreasonable. Herein lies my dilemma.
Many of the songs on AV1 could quite conceivably be covered by all manner of
ageing MOR shitbags; artists and bands for whom the days of sparkling
creativity are long gone, their once proud talents a shabby and somewhat
pathetic abyss of self-parody. Even though there are countless reasons why
XTC are so much more intriguing, exciting and rewarding to listen to than
any ostensibly mainstream or "adult" artist (and I'm hovering above the
Sting/Phil Collins/Rod Stewart ballpark here), I can't help thinking that
ten years ago I would have been less than complimentary about the new XTC
album. Maybe that's not the case - after all, I would have been listening to
The Smiths, Tom Waits and plenty of Beatles records, for example, at around
that time -  but at the age of 26 I no longer feel that youthful urge to
throw bricks through the windows of Dire Straits fans' houses and find
myself becoming increasingly amenable to the idea of a nice Van Morrison box
set. Thankfully I still can't bear the thought that I might be wimping out
and turning into a Crowded House fan, or, even worse, a Bob Dylan admirer. I
feel comforted by the fact that the last CD I bought was by a band my
parents would never have heard of (Cobra Killer, in case you were
wondering), and yet despite these small consolations even my predilection
for Heavy Metal has taken a significant turn away from what I can only refer
to as "the hard stuff".

It used to be all Death Metal and satanic shrieking around these parts.
These days I'm much more your mellow 70s groove kinda guy - a pint of
Sabbath, a hefty slice of Atomic Rooster and a Pink Floyd blancmange for
afters, yummy! - and terrifyingly enough, I hear the Allman Brothers calling
me from somewhere deep in my subconscious. It's not yet reached the stage
where I sell all my grindcore and gabba records because they give me a
headache, but the urge to get into jazz is becoming overwhelming and I quite
fancy owning a pair of slippers. I've got the mortgage, the lovely fiancee
and the three cats (superb substitute for children, if anyone's interested -
far quieter and the overall stench-factor compares favourably with anything
that comes out of a human arse) and even though I steadfastly refuse to get
my hair cut (I'm not receding so I can still feel smug around all my
recently shorn and/or rapidly balding pals) I can't help resenting the fact
that pop music (and to some extent, pop culture generally) simply isn't
aimed at me anymore, daft old hippy that I seem to be. OK, so Napalm Death
are still one of my favourite bands, and I would still take great pleasure
from seeing Celine Dion's head on a stick, but the downward spiral has
undoubtedly begun. It happened to most of my friends years ago. When once
they cheered as I slapped another Godflesh album on the stereo, one by one
they wussed out large-style, turning to the alleged wonders of so-called
"indie" music and insipid sub-disco drivel. And how I laughed. How I sneered
(albeit with affection - ah, how sweet!) and proudly proclaimed "Not I!".
But it's's really sodding well starting...

I absolutely adore the new XTC album. This much is, frankly, a bit obvious,
but it needs stating, if only to confirm my own fears. I've loved all of
XTC's records, and this new one is one of the best, if not the best ever.
However, I have always preferred the more guitar-orientated, angular,
squawky stuff - particularly "Drums & Wires" and "Black Sea" - and broadly
speaking I have never been a member of the "I like a nice tune" school of
thought. How things change! I keep saying to people, "Hey, have you heard
the new XTC album? Fucking brilliant! The tunes, my friend, the tunes!!!"
and even worse, "They're better than the bloody Beatles you know. It's a
perfect example of songwriting as a craft! It bloody is!" and other such
you-might-as-well-bury-me-next-to-my-credibility remarks which really should
enrage the Morbid Angel fanatic inside me. But no, I love a good tune and I
love "Apple Venus Vol.1" with all my mean-spirited and belligerent heart. I
love a nice cuppa and I can't see the attraction in night clubs and I'd
rather see a live band than listen to some spotty 'erbert playing records
and I never refer to myself as a socialist anymore and I mutter under my
breath when teenagers misbehave on the bus and I wear a shirt and tie to
work (and I don't mind!) and I don't play my music too loud in case I offend
the neighbours (who are all alcoholic students who probably don't even
realise they have neighbours) and I do the Guardian cryptic crossword every
day and I'm really quite responsible and I worry about smoking too much and
how little exercise I get and I own at least two Bruce Springsteen records
and I feel more at home discussing XTC with a bunch of middle-aged Americans
than I do at Metal gigs and I'm only twenty fucking six and IT'S NOT BASTARD

Thanks. I feel better now.



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