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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 5, Number 103

                Thursday, 25 February 1999

Today's Topics:

                Andy's Visit To MuchMusic
                    In my sweaty palms
         I beg to differ/go ahead and lambast me
"You can read it in your bible/or on the back of this record sleeve"
                Why does it happen to me?
               The Man with the Magic Touch
                      Time Dilation
               Push Your Car From The Road
                   I'm getting my copy
                 Tucson Listening Party?
   In depth, song-by-song review of Apple Venus Vol. 1
          Last night at Tower Records in NYC...
                   APPLE VENUS in ITALY
                  Resurrecting Churchill
            First **NEGATIVE** review of AV1!
         Re: Don't like " River Of Orchids '' ???
             Andy confirmed on Chicago radio
                    Hypocrisy, I say !
                         Man Utd
                J-J-J pronounced as CRASS


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Message-ID: <C23446C9A1FDD01182C100805F9ADEBF486C9B@TORONTO2>
From: Ed Dalkowski <>
Subject: Andy's Visit To MuchMusic
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:49:35 -0500

It just figures. I FINALLY get around to posting a message after all these
years and it gets deleted on the way.

Anyhow, since I've seen no mention of it, I just want to make sure that
those of you who have access to MuchMusic or Much USA are aware that Andy is
doing an interview on Friday at 2:15 pm Eastern.


NP: What else?


Message-ID: <>
Date: 24 Feb 1999 16:09:00 0000
From: "Robert  Wood" <>
Organization: Mutech
Subject: In my sweaty palms

Got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got it, got
it, got it, got it, *got it*. A feeling of great relief! Went into HMV
yesterday on a with a bulk order for myself and friends, bought the entire
stock of vinyl and one CD! Favourite track on first listening is Frivolous
Tonight, and favourite lyric "Really High, really high like a really high
thing". Made me smile.

Shame about no lyrics - glad they're all on Chalkhills, got them downloaded.
And talking of Chalkhills, most excellent that the URL has changed to, much easier to remember! (And type!)


Message-ID: <>
Date: 24 Feb 1999 16:11:00 0000
From: "Robert  Wood" <>
Organization: Mutech
Subject: Rivers

John said in 5-97 in response to Katy's claim that she liked all the album
except River of Orchids (which she said would probably grow on her).

>> ROO is one of the precious few out of a million  that have
passed through my eardrums since I got into music at the beginning of the
British Invasion in 1964 that make me shed happytears ; it is that bloody
good . The first time I heard it goosebumps burst out all over my body <<

I'm with Katy on this one, I thought ROO was by far the least accessible
track (I've only listened to the album once yet), but Katy's also right in
that it will possibly grow to be the track that sounds the best 100 plays
down the road. It's often the case.

While I'm on - digests; much, much better than a continual stream of


Message-ID: <>
From: "iain fisher" <>
Subject: anniversary
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:34:33 PST

Just happened to be my wedding aniiversary on the 24th and lo and behold
guess what my wife manged to buy as a wee gift. Yep - AV1 A complete
surprise !!!

We bought a new hi-fi as a gift for both of us and it's still in pieces.
Can you believe i have the new cd  it in my sticky paws and the hi-fi is
in bits on the floor. ANyway the anticipation is almost as good as the
listening experience

Love, kisses and big hugs to Carol my wife

Hope everybody else enjoys AV1


Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 08:55:50 -0800
From: David Friel <>
Subject: I beg to differ/go ahead and lambast me

Greetings -

I must say, and I'm probably one of the few, if only, that will go on
record to say this, that I'm pretty disappointed with AV1.  After
listening to Andy's '95 Demo Tape for three years, I don't think the
songs on AV1 hold a candle to the genius he displayed on the
aforementioned tape.  I find the songs on AV1 very overproduced and
sorta like the muzak/elevator- music version of the songs on the tape.
Personally, I think the songs on the '95 demo tape were in their most
pristine, perfect form and shouldn't have been tinkered with.  I know
this is heresy and sacrilegious, but I had to be true to myself and my
feelings on this one.  I must say, however, that I am looking forward to
AV2.  I invite all comments and ridicule.

- Dave in San Francisco

P.S.  I find the melodrama on Chalkhills regarding AV1 quite hilarious.
Did someone actually say he/she cried when he/she first listened to it?


Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 09:11:20 -0800 (PST)
Message-Id: <>
From: DCB-MBB <>
Subject: anticipation

hey-ho, chalkeez!

I ordered AV1 on line, and am keeping a vigil near my mailbox...where is
that darn package?...I'm very excited about the whole thing :)
--anyway, in the last digest (5-99), Nicole said..."That DAMN Natalie
Imbruglia song. I like it. Is she talented (ie is she unique, or could it
have been anyone)... not in my opinion."
--WELL, my pet, I will enjoy bursting YOUR bubble....I assume the 'DAMN'
song you're referring to is TORN...this song was written by a band called
Edna Swap.... I heard them perform it live (on the radio) several months had heart and sounded powerful and poignant.....the
tremendously suck-ass and largely forgettable version from  Australian soap
opera star, Imbruglia, sounds like a commercial for a feminine hygiene
product..... BAH!!!  According to the lead singer of Edna Swap, (whose name
escapes me now!), Miss Imbruglia's producer, looking for the 'right vehicle'
for her, perused published music catalogs and found the Swap song...sucked
the life out of it.....and..well the rest is pop, or should I say, PAP music
history!!!!! Oh, and as of that interview (AT LEAST five months ago), Edna
had not received ANY $$$ for their small contribution to all this....
o.k...o.k... i'm done now, sorry for the rant, folks!!

happy listening to you all,
Debora Brown



Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:23:53 EST
Subject: "You can read it in your bible/or on the back of this record sleeve"


Wiccans and other pagans on Chalkhills will no doubt recognize this phrase
on the back cover of Apple Venus 1 as the Wiccan Rede.  "Eight words the
Wiccan Rede fulfill: If it harm none, do as you will".  I stared at the
back of the CD for a long time this afternoon as I sat in the car outside
the record shop.  It was so fitting, so perfect, to see those words there.

I knew in my heart (and from the lyrics to songs such as "Greenman") that
Andy Partridge, as a songwriter at least, was possessed of certain pagan
sensibilities, despite (or perhaps in accordance with) what he has said in
the past about religion in general.  But it was certainly an epiphany for
me to see something so... I dunno...dogmatic?  (that's not the right word,
but I'm at a loss.. "direct", I guess) printed on the CD case.  I'm
delighted, personally, being wiccan myself.  It lends further and deeper
meaning to the already rich and gorgeous songs for me.

I've only heard the demos and the snippets from the web so far; I won't be
playing the actual CD until this weekend, when I've arranged a private
listening party with my beloved (hi, John love!).  This goes WAY beyond
make- out music -- I believe they're the sexiest songs I'll ever hear in my

All fired up,


Message-Id: <>
Subject: Why does it happen to me?
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 99 19:32:19 +0200
From: Per Aronsson <>

I orderd four LP:s and one cd of Apple Venus from Cooking Vinyl. They hoped
that the parcel should reach Sweden at the the releaseday, 22/2.

I had managed to get some free time from work and family just to listen, and
listen and listen... So when the parcel didn't arrive, well no problem. I
buy a copy from the local shop.

But no, we live in a crazy world. The big parcel from England to the
distributors in Sweden is gone! It has vanaged from the face of the north
earth. Apple Venus is still not available here (and it is freezing cold and
windy). And the parcel from England? Not here yet.

It looks like I have to wait until monday for some xtc-ism. I am in pain.
Please comfort me.

Per Aronsson.


Message-ID: <001801be6020$de215920$4d0798cf@tedist>
From: "Rick Buist" <>
Subject: The Man with the Magic Touch
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 10:09:43 -0800


>Who do you think would win in a fight: Soundgarden's
>"Spoonman" or XTC's "Greenman"?
>TMBG's Triangle Man, of course (he always wins).
>Robyn Hitchcock's Balloon Man could join in, but
>Black Sabbath's Ironman would kick all their asses...

What about Mr. Tambourine Man?  Dogman by King's X?  Rocketman? REM's
Superman?  ELP's Lucky Man? Big Man on Mulberry Street (Billy Joel)?
Indigo Girls Chicken Man ... (too obvious) Dio's the Man on the Silver
Mountain (hey, we all went to junior high).

Definitely Sammy Davis Jr.'s the Candyman would get his candy ass kicked.

In response to:

>Some wonderful trumpet work overall - who is that guy?

Probably Guy Barker, the same guy who played on Nonsuch.

He once recorded a version of Lover Man.  (just kidding)

Still waiting on my copy of AV1 to arrive - I preordered it, and now I'm
waiting for it in the mail while it sits in the stores.  What an idiot!
What was I thinking?



Message-ID: <>
From: "Kristen Reed" <>
Subject: Time Dilation
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:23:51 PST

An ex of mine commented that when you're *really* looking forward to
something, time dilates, much like it does w/black holes.  Anyway, I'm
broke and can't buy AV1 until Friday! The seconds are telescoping into
eons this week.

It's nice that I can at least experience the joy vicariously through you
guys. I can't wait to get my own copy & ponitificate upon all the glory
that is XTC.  I probably won't venture far from the stereo this weekend.

The Crocodile is trying to make me jealous here...

Biding my time (is it possible that the anticipation can only make it
better?) impatiently...



Message-ID: <>
From: "Steve Stearns" <>
Subject: Push Your Car From The Road
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 11:26:21 PST

A brief synopsis of yesterday:

After getting off work at 5, drove like a maniac to tower records in
seattle to buy AV1.  (Actually bought 3 copies, but I digress). Traffic
was HORRIBLE! Right after Andy sang "push your car from the road . . ."
the guy I carpool with said, "sounds like a damn good idea to me right
about now."  What's usually about a 20 minute commute stretched out to
about 1 and a half hours! Enough time to listen to AV1 a few times and
form a few preliminary opinions . . .Molly and others can page down if
you please.

Having heard the demos I was very impressed with how River of Orchids,
Easter Theatre, Greenman and I Can't Own Her turned out--the vocals
sound much richer and the orchestra adds a definite dimension that
wasn't on the demos . . .kind of like watching TV on a scratchy old B&W
set then suddenly seeing the same program in 70mm Panavision.

Personally, I think Colin's AV1 contributions are WAY better than his
songs on Nonsuch. "Frivolous" grabbed me on the first listen, "Fruit
Nut" took a little more time but is damned catchy.  Production-wise this
album also blows the last couple away as far as mixing and mastering . .
.definitely the most "thematically complete" album since Skylarking, by
that I mean the entire album has a feel,mood and flow to it so that one
song flows seamlessly to the next.

Hats off to Andy, Colin, Dave, Prairie, Haydn, Nick and everyone else
involved for a job well done. Looking forward to other chalk-comments!
(And let me echo others who've expressed interest in having the lads
come to the Northwest -- oh please oh please oh please oh please!!!)

(beg mode off now)

Wishing for the moon in hand,



Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:36:38 -0800
From: Dan Phipps <>
Organization: CIC
Subject: Wow!!

Wow, folks!! --

The lads' "Apple Venus 1" gets released on the
23rd and the very next day, we get not one but
3 (!!!) Chalkhills digests from Sir John!  So
much to read and little time!  ;-)

Sad thing is, I have yet to receive my pre-ordered
copy of AV1 from CD Universe (AARRGGHH!!), so I'm
not even gonna look at ANY of the Chalkhills posts
until I do get it!  Then I'll feel like I'm included
in all this rejoicing going on!  (sigh...)

For those of you out there lucky enough to
already possess this much-anticipated new release
from "The Swindon Two," ENJOY!  My opinions will
be forthcoming soon enough, too, I guess.

Still biting nails here --

/Dan Phipps <>

"Imagination like a muscle will
 increase with exercise."
(Peter Blegvad)


Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 14:42:53 -0500
Subject: I'm getting my copy
Message-ID: <>
From: Molly E Fanton <>

     Yesterday I got an e-mail from Music Boulevard and they said that
they shipped AV1 on Feb. 22, so this means I'm going to get it either
today or tomorrow.  I haven't checked my mail yet today, and I'm hoping
it's there.  If not I'll pass out.
I     'm sorry for the other posts I've been writing about not seeing
Andy.  I just noticed I sounded a bit desperate.  I'm so sorry.



Message-Id: <>
From: "Jeff Smelser" <>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:52:19 -0700
Subject: Tucson Listening Party?

Hi Chalkbuds,

Any Arizonans out there want to have an AV1 listening party this
weekend in Tucson?  If so please email me off the list.

Jeff Smelser  aka JD SMX

Jeff Smelser
Engineering Services Manager
Access Tucson


Message-Id: <>
Subject: In depth, song-by-song review of Apple Venus Vol. 1
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 99 14:24:22 -0600
From: Robert Dassie <>


Feels good.




From: "Michael D. Myers" <>
Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:26:47 -0500
Subject: Last night at Tower Records in NYC...

Chalksters and Chalkettes;

I will start with a warning:  if you don't want to hear about Andy and
Colin being in NYC last night, or if you don't have AV1 yet, or if you
think you'll get disturbed because I'm going to tell you how happy I am,
then PAGE DOWN!!

There, that's better, now I can continue.

I was one of probably 250 people standing on line in the windy, 20 degree
New York City weather last night waiting to see and talk to our heroes.
Since the signing was scheduled to start at 6 pm, I got there at about
4:30, went inside and bought my copy of AV1 (list price $17.98, on sale for
$13.98) and went back outside as per the store's policy for signings and
got on line;  there were about 30 people ahead of me at this point.  To
pass the time, I chatted with those near me and it was an interesting mix
of fans.  The guy behind me didn't know about Dave's leaving or even the
Virgin strike, so he was a bundle of questions.

In front of me was a very knowledgeable guy who turned out to be Tom Chao,
a former member of this list and a journalist.  I believe that a "quiz" on
the Chalkhills archives was written by Tom.  He hasn't been on Chalkhills
for a few years, but he remembered a few names.  In fact, he asked if I was
Harrison Sherwood.  I assured him that I was not but that I would pass on
his good wishes.

I also spoke with listmember Stephanie Takeshita, who ventured down the
street to the TVT offices to see if the boys were holed up there, but to no
avail.  She said that she had encountered some other list members on the
line but I didn't have a chance to roam and find others.  We found out that
Andy and Colin had been on WNEW-FM with Vin Scelsa on Sunday night, and I
missed it!  I didn't hear about it in time.  I want a tape of the show;
can anyone help me with this?

Andy and Colin got there a little late (about 6:10) and immediately went to
another area of the store and disappeared for a while.  They reappeared
with a small TVT entourage and the signing began about 6:40 or so.  The
problem with this was that we were all still outside and freezing.  I got
into the store about 7:00 and finally got up near Andy and Colin about
7:15.  I noticed that they seemed happy and enjoying each other's company
greatly as they bantered about some quiet thought they shared.  Also, AV1
was playing on the in-store sound system.  The person immediately in front
of me, Tom Chao's friend, shook hands with Colin so hard that Colin visibly
winced and stared at this guy as he walked away.

So then it was my turn!  I spent my precious moments telling them how much
their music had meant to me over the years and they seemed genuinely
pleased.  I told them that they ranked right up there with the Beatles and
Kinks and Andy said, "That's high praise, indeed."  I also thanked them for
doing the autograph tour and then I moved on to let some other happy souls
have their turn.

I wasn't able to stick around and join other Chalksters in an after-hours
celebration because I had another commitment, but I must assure you that it
was a great way to spend my birthday.  I now am the proud owner of an
autographed copy of "Song Stories" as well as the "real" AV1 release.  What
a great album!!

Before I close, I suggest that you listen closely to Colin's bass playing
on "Greenman".  It is fantastic.  I don't mean to get into another long
debate over the best bass players in the world, but this piece reveals his
technique to be tasty and melodic.

Got to go now,


Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:39:35 +0100
From: Christian Sabbadini <>

Wonderful album .Is the on the top of my HIT LIST of 1999

AV is out  today in  ITALY avalaible in all italian local stores .
Here the details :
LP : catalogue number COOK 172 Vinyl 180 g  imported from U.K. but with
a small  label put on retro of gatefold cover : CKV 1351 RTI MUSIC
CD : catalogue number CKV 13552 COOKING VINYL RTI MUSIC
MC: catalogue number CKV13554  COOKYNG VYNIL RTI MUSIC

The CD and the MC are manifactured and distibuited  in ITALY by RTI

If you need all information please write me :



From: "Michael Versaci" <>
Subject: Resurrecting Churchill
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:38:45 -0500
Message-ID: <000101be6035$aec0b2b0$>


>let's get the bastards!

Great.  Now some of us are trying to organize menage-et-clusterf*ck with a
couple of redneck classic rocket scientists?

"Shazam! Those X-T-C geek-a-zoids sure are loyal somebitchez, ain't they?
We done opened a can a prairie-worms this time, I reckon!"

"HaHaHaHa.  Well, lets show those pansy-fools how we rock in these
YOU-Knighted-States!  Dallas good-ole-boys, this 'uns fer you!"

"Just take those old records off the shelf
 I sit n' lissen by m'self
 Today's music ain't got the same soul
 I am such a stupid ----"  (well, I hear it like that!)

Michael Versaci


Message-ID: <>
From: "Jason Garcia" <>
Subject: First **NEGATIVE** review of AV1!
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 12:39:23 PST

No, it's not from me.

Decided to fuck my Music Boulevard order and go buy AV1 yesterday.  As
"I'd Like That" boomed from the kitchen...uh, boom box, in the co-op I
used to live at, a house member who was reclining on the couch in the
living room offered, "that's some shitty music you're listening to
there."  My response was an enthusiastic, "Thanks!!"  Upon finding that
THIS was XTC's new album, he added, "how the mighty fall hard."  Ouch.
Of course, this was the guy who chastised me for being a big R.E.M. fan
and not owning a single Wire album, so I decided to ignore his opinion.
That said, AV1 is definitely not for everyone, but, well, I like that. A
few things struck me as I was listening to it (alone):

1)  I'm not upset that I heard most of these songs in demo form already.
Sure, it takes some of the surprise away, but you feel like you've been
a friend of these songs for years and it's nice to finally see them on a
released record.

2)  I think most of my favorites are either on AV2 or will not be
recorded.  This is unfortunate, but in light of that...

3)  Some of the songs I didn't really care for before are growing on me
now, like "I'd Like That".  Always thought that was a bit of fluff,
but in the context of the album it's a bit of fluff that makes sense as
the second song.  The ending of the demo was better though.  I like the
high harmonies he did in the demo at the end, the "iiiiiiiiii'd
liiiiiiiike thaaaaaaaaat..."  (and the bass playing was better !)

4)  "I Can't Own Her" has a LOT more dynamic now.  The demo was a wash
of drippy sentimentality, and I was glad to hear it tightened up a

5)  "Fruit Nut" is really nice.  I have to listen to that and "Frivolous
Tonight" (which I don't like as much yet) a bit more.

6)  I was glad that "River of Orchids" was left pretty much unchanged
save for the gradual intro and the pile-up at the end. His vocals sound
good all over the stereo picture.

7)  The repeated last chorus of "Easter Theatre" has an acoustic guitar
that I don't remember hearing in the demo and is eerily similar to the
part I played on my cover of "Easter Theatre" on CC97.  Could he

8)  Volumes one and two shouldn't have been one album, but it would have
been nice to have both of them at the same time, because this album
definitely feels like there's another part to it.  It leaves me wanting

9)  Ben, the feather sparkles.

All in all, an album with a nice summery feel, kind of like "Skylarking"
in that regard (thanks, Prairie!).  I'm glad Andy realizes now that
albums don't have to have 17 songs to be good!

Jason Garcia
TOP 40

PS, all you Austinites out there, I'll be playing @ SPIDERHOUSE on
Saturday, Feb. 27, at an unspecified time (but I'm thinking after 10?)
Come check me out!


Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 20:48:34 +0000
From: KT <>
Subject: Re: Don't like " River Of Orchids '' ???

In article <001201be5d37$1c663f80$6e5791d2@johnboud>, John Boudreau
<> writes
>Katy my dear , is it really true that you don't like River Of Orchids ? If
>it IS , I find this truly incomprehensible .
errrrr...well bare in mind, XTC fan or not, I'm still a teenager. It'll
probably grow on me though. okay, I don't HATE it or anything, I just
don't love it to bits.
> This tune is IMHO is one of
>several masterpieces on THE album that is THE  masterpiece for the coming
>new millenium .
True. all the tracks are masterpeices. It's a great song, and is amazing
to hear. but hey, call me a philistine but it's not really my thing
>  ROO is one of the precious few out of a million  that have
>passed through my eardrums since I got into music at the beginning of the
>British Invasion in 1964 that make me shed happytears ; it is that bloody
>good . The first time I heard it goosebumps burst out all over my body ; I
>began laughing like a crazyman ; and the tears flowed . Surely you must be
>joking ???
WHOA! I've never had a peice of music do that to me. also, bare it in
mind this is a second, if not third generation tape. ie the sound
quality is really bad. Okay, when I heard it off a cover CD my dad
brought home I was amazed to hear new material and yeah I did feel kinda
warm an' fuzzy inside. but hey, It's just what I think. and I really
like 'your dictionary'
KT Coope    who for some reson did a 'One 2 One' essay on Andy in
              humanitys...and hopes to get an A..


Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:13:16 +0000
From: B Blanchard <>
Subject: Lyrics

To those who asked and emailed me about the lyrics and thought
that I had said I had got lyrics from Cooking Vinyl - well I did
not.  I got them from the links Mark or some one wonderful person
put on these very listings for all of us to download and copy.  I
printed all 12 pages of them out and put them in the lovely huge
album folder.  Having said that this album is the easiest for to
pick up and understand clearly the lyrics!

Did my two copies I bought direct from the Cooking Vinyl's
offices in Acton W3  count towards the position of the guys in
the charts? Do I have to buy two more from WH Smiths or
something? But I'm broke!

I am here to tell you that in my humble opinion (and I preferred
to spell that out in full!) my appreciation of the album was not
in anyway ruined by having heard the demos.  Like licking the
icing from the bowl then being presented with the cake and the
extra cherries on top - like being allowed to ride your Dad's
scooter when you were a teenager then being able to buy a big
proper motorbike for yourself.

This went for having got the Nonsuch and various other demos in
the past too before the album proper came out. I can understand
AP's anxiety about this but he is to be pacified.

Thanks by the way to the person who prefers to be anonymous who
kindly sent me the demos for AV1 and 2.  I did appreciate it.

Who is the person and what does he do and what are his contacts
whereby he can casually write to us that he happened to have
dinner with AP in Bourbon Street New Orleans without ANY
explanation of how that came about!

It is fun to read all the pleas for lifts and meeting ideas for
the mad dash across USA. I do wish you all well and hope you all
meet up with each other and have lots of fun!  I have never seen
Space Ghost and to my knowledge we do not get it in UK.  (Do we?
Any obscure Cable Channel?)  If they appear on Letterman again
can we be told immediately as some of us get that on Cable here
the night after USA sees it.

That's it for now!
The Peckham Rose - (Actually the daffodills have come out in my
old motorcycle helmet which is now upturned and acts as a plant
pot.  There's an Easter Theatrical image for you.)


Message-ID: <697A4CA51395D111A658AA00040058069D9FD8@NT6>
From: "Wiencek, Dan" <>
Subject: Andy confirmed on Chicago radio
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 15:18:25 -0600

WXRT in Chicago just confirmed that Andy will be visiting that station
tomorrow afternoon during Tom Marker's show, which broadcasts from noon to 3
p.m.  The frequency is 93.1.  Dial it up!

BTW, thanks to the other Andy for his amusing account of AP being
interrogated by "Space Ghost."  You got to sit in Andy P's chair *and*
Zorak's chair--hope you realize how lucky you are, ya bastard ya. ;)



Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:17:26 +0000
From: Jon Holden-Dye <>
Subject: Hypocrisy, I say !

So, I've lost count of the number of you who seem to have had your first
listen whilst driving away from the wrecka stow. Presumably, y'all
started with Track 1 (ROO) ? (Big Cheesy Grin, BTW.)
Jon Holden-Dye
"I like to keep an open mind - but
not so open my brain falls out." (Anon.)


Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 24 Feb 1999 21:33:55 +0000
From: Geoff Murrell <>
Subject: Man Utd

> Re:
>  Who do you think would win in a fight: Soundgarden's "Spoonman" or
>  XTC's "Greenman"?
> TMBG's Triangle Man, of course (he always wins).
> Robyn Hitchcock's Balloon Man could join in, but
> Black Sabbath's Ironman would kick all their asses...

I don't hold out much hope for Ray Davies's Plastic Man
He'd be Nowhere Man!



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Date: 25 Feb 99 13:27:16 +1100
From: "Adam Davies" <>
Subject: J-J-J pronounced as CRASS

Dunks said some stuff about Triple J radio in Australia, to whit:

> I've been a Double-Jay/JJJ listeners since Day One, WAY back in
> 1974 (yes there really are people that old) and I can't say I ever
> noticed them "playing (XTC) to death" at any time since about 1982.

I can remember them playing 'Then She Appeared' almost on a daily basis in
Maynard's breakfast shift.  'The Disappointed' and '...Peter Pumpkin Head'
got a fair run, and 'Dear Madam Barnum' got a look in too.  I do agree,
though, that XTC didn't get much of a run in other shifts, particularly
drive onwards.

> Now bands like XTC are relegated to shows like Richard Kingsmill's
> sad old "Where are they now" late-night dumper-bin, or ignored
> completely.

Kingsmill ran the XTC edition of The J Files, and at the time I was
thorougly impressed by just how much he genuinely knew about the band.  In
any case, 'Greenman' has been played at least once every day this week.
The first time I heard them play it was yesterday's morning shift [I told
mum to stop talking for six minutes!], and I heard it again in this
morning's breakfast shift.  The main difference, as per your argument, is
that musically the presenters wouldn't know diamonds from dog turds.

I'll keep the rest of my points about Triple J to email.

While I'm here I'm going to whinge: CD Now STILL haven't sent my copy of
AV1 yet!  It'd be quicker to fashion my own CD from disused materials
around the house.

4 days to go!




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