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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 4, Number 90

                   Monday, 8 June 1998

Today's Topics:

         Vital Stats (for those that really care)
                      Fuzzy Warbles
                Re: Soapbox or Boxed Soap?
                Re: The Dregs of the Earth
                  Re: Rantin and Rayvin
                  Re: Harrison's Soapbox
              That "Difficult" Second Chord
        Kareful with those German references, pal!
                      one of the 3?
                "Peter Pumpkinhead" chord
                      Musical tastes
                       Pete Pumpkin
                 Re: Hipness commodified
                  LA chalkhillians unite
                    shindigs and sheep
            XTC videos available/videos wanted
                 New Book Cover on Amazon
                     Wake Up Wav File
                        Aus Visit
                 Re: Cult of Personality
                 XTC Record Review Pt. 3
             London/Swindon/White Chalk Horse
                 Re:Chalkhills statistics

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Message-Id: <199806042147.RAA28657@mail.bna.bellsouth.net>
From: "RoadKill" <csberry@mail.bna.bellsouth.net>
Date: Wed, 3 Jun 1998 19:06:31 +0000
Subject: Vital Stats (for those that really care)

Eric wrote:
> PS--Does anyone else find it sad, as I do, that Dave Gregory has agreed to
> do the REO Speedwagon/Styx summer tour?

Did I miss this someplace before?  In what capacity will he be doing
this?  I'm scared of the possibilities.

To continue the demographic survey of Chalkfolk:

Religion: raised Methodist, now Deist.
Political Stance: Libertarian - (not as far from the former Barry
Goldwater as I had thought before the recent obituary features)
Drugs: Noone is expecting me to email a urine analysis are they?
Job: radio - morning show producer
Dream: raise a family in a lakeside home w/ a wrap around porch.

Cory

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Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980604180736.006978bc@mail.clemson.edu>
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 18:07:36 -0400
From: Adam Tyner <ctyner@clemson.edu>
Subject: Fuzzy Warbles

All I can say is "wow".  Drums And Wireless gets more time in my CD player
than any of my other XTC CDs (aside from Oranges And Lemons), and I am
absolutely thrilled about this 4 CD set.

My memory of "A Clockwork Orange" must be a bit fuzzy.  I looked at a
Nadsat glossary
(http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/3111/aco_nadsat.htm), and it says
that 'warble' is a song...  For some reason, I thought "fuzzy warbles"
referred to...part of the female anatomy.  (sigh)  The 'song' definition
makes much more sense for the title of the 4 CD set.

As for the demos...astounding!  I wonder how many CDs a compilation of all
of XTC's demos would require?  :)

Mitch, you've made my day.  :)  Thanks for passing this information along!
I'm looking forward to this a bit more than the new album.  ;)

-Adam
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Message-ID: <19980605004435.19609.rocketmail@web2.rocketmail.com>
Date: Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:44:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Brian Danks <bdanks@rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: Soapbox or Boxed Soap?

Right on, Harrison, right on.

Brian D.

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Message-ID: <357743A5.2520@bhip.infi.net>
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 21:02:40 -0400
From: gregory <mattone@bhip.infi.net>
Organization: InfiNet
Subject: Re: The Dregs of the Earth

Tschalkgerz!

>Is this the first mention of the Dixie Dregs on this list?<

And with any luck, not the last! If you don't know these guys, get on
it. Very tasty stuff! I put them the same 'apart from the rest' category
as XTC, but so different (like, instrumental muisc for starters).

-Brian

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Message-ID: <357785A1.54B9@redcreek.net>
Date: Thu, 04 Jun 1998 22:44:01 -0700
From: John McGreivey <mcgreivey@redcreek.net>
Subject: Re: Rantin and Rayvin

>>Dom, you're shadowboxing, bud. You have some nice moves: Your hook is
indistinguishable from greased lightning, and your footwork is like unto
a
<<

I completely agree with the substance of Harrison Sherwood's long long
...ummmm... rant (no offense; I assure you that I quite enjoyed reading it)
I must repeat (I don't know why, but I must) what others have said: that
we've all subscribed to this list because we;re interested in XTC.
THat's as much as we can be sure of about each other. It's pretty
self-evident, I think. Hey, maybe there's even someone out there who
thinks it's tragic that Ginger has left the Spice Girls.

Hmmm... Maybe Ginger and Dave Gregory should start a band... Hmmmmm....
Or maybe she should join XTC (<<anyone wanna take de bait here?)

>PS--Does anyone else find it sad, as I do, that Dave Gregory has agreed to
do the REO Speedwagon/Styx summer tour?
<

No.

>Finally (hooray for Jim!) can someone with a connection to Dave Gregory
please confirm: D.G. is set to take Linda McCartney's spot in the 1999
Wings Reunion Tour.
<

I was going to reply to this with a lie that I'd "heard a rumour" that
after the Wings tour, Dave would be going on the road with Yoko to play
Double Fantasy songs, but then I saw the following, and decided not to,
fearing that it might in fact not be so far from the truth:

>Anyone know if any of the Andy co-writing done with Julian Lennon appears
on Lennon's new release? I haven't seen a new release but it's said that
it was released the same day as Sean Lennon's CD!
<

(And I'm not cutting on John Lennon here. I'm actually a fan of Lennon
AND Yoko, though I'm not a fan of the Double-Fantasy-era stuff.)
(Not that it really matters what I like, aside from XTC.)
(Not even that one must like XTC to read this list, actually.)
(Nor even... but enough.)

I can't go on; I'll go on. [anyone get the allusion?][did I quote it
right?])

I like to listen to XTC backwards at half-speed sometimes. I put it into
mono and pan it to the left, and play Fripp & Eno's "No Pussyfooting"
through the right channel. Is this fair use?

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Message-ID: <01BD9078.B0B6FEE0@pC19F2334.dip.t-online.de>
From: Arndt_Bar <trash@cdgmbh.de>
Subject: Re: Harrison's Soapbox
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 11:54:16 +0200

>delurk
>ok

Chalkmenschen,

first of all, I'd like to agree to Harrison's soapbox speech and to Stewart
Evans, who summarized the main aspect quite nicely: A mailing list like this
does, by design, only represent a specific fraction of reality. In this
case, a special musical taste. Which is not necessarily the ONLY musical
taste of all chalkhills members.

[Intermission:

By agreeing to Harrison on this list, I realize that I also follow a major,
not to say "hip" trend, thus contradicting some of his statements :-)

"'Oh dear', says Arndt, 'I hadn't thought of that', and promptly vanished in
a puff of logic" -- Douglas Adams (who, again, is probably somebody you can
expect to be quoted by a narrow-minded member of this list)]

Anyway, the reason why I'm de-lurking for a moment ...

[Intermission:

De-lurking statement:

Religion: Raised Protestant, now careless Protestant
Political Party: Common Sense
Drugs: see above
Job: Producing everything that's _hip_ in New Nedia
Dream: Never can remember my dreams]

OK, I'm de-lurking to add something to Harrison's thoughts.

1.
I see a new discussion coming. On the one side, there's people stating "I'm
free of the newness thing, that's why I hate Hip Hop/Heavy Metal and listen
to XTC". On the other side are people in baggy pants who issue accusations
of narrow-mindedness, retrospectiveness and general old-fartedness.
I would consider such a discussion the result of a fundamental
misunderstanding. Being free of trends (and commercial influence) does _not_
mean you prefer one or the other musical style. I'm sure that you can easily
listen to and like Hip Hop because it somehow relates to you, you like the
feeling etc ...
What I just don't understand is people listening to some sort of music
because *everyone else does*, or because *the music industry says it's hip*.
Ok, the distinction may be a question of rhetoric when you happen to like
the music that's trendy at the moment. A sure sign for discovering your own
music taste is, however, when you (re-)discover music that hardly anyone
else listens to (yet or anymore).

I'm sure that this point is also implied in Harrison's post. I just wanted
to state it clearly again.

2.
I appreciate the music industry's effort to 'invent' or 'discover' new music
trends. Ok, most of the time they pollute radio programs and give me a
headache, but sometimes they bring something to my ears that appeals to me.
In short: I endure the crap to get an opportunity to widen my taste.
Of course, the music industry mainly promotes music that has a mass market
potential - a term that is *not* synonymous with "inventive" and "daring"
most of the time. And they sometimes promote attitude and image rather than
music. The same as above applies.
But I can live with that, because there's still alternative ways to discover
music that's not in every store and radio station. The Internet - and
Chalkhills - is a prime example.

3.
To "be true to myself--to my own perceptions", as Harrison states, is of
course a tricky thing. First, you often cannot detach your musical
perceptions from the circumstances that surround the production and
perception of music. Everyone has to decide for oneself whether there's a
difference between "I like this music because it feels good", "I like it
because it makes use of the xy chord", "I like it because everyone does (or
doesn't)", "Because I listened to it while on holiday (on my bike)", or
"Because the artist has big, say, hair". Whatever the answer - even
realising why you like music is a fun way to spend your time.
And, of course, there's the less perceptive like me who do not recognise
good music unless it is frozen stiff and hammered into their ears. It took a
friend of mine agonising two years of playing Ska music (anyone mentioned
Ska already?) to me to convince me *not* to like it. One live concert,
however, did the trick: I still hardly ever listen to Ska on CD, but I go to
Ska concerts and even *dance*.

Which means that sometimes I just don't know when I'm true to myself or not.

Just my two Centi-Euro's worth.

Cheers,

Arndt

**********************************************************
* "Bowl some woods at misuse time"                       *
*                   From the Zen Book of Fridge Buddhism *
**********************************************************

>relurk
... relurking
>done

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Message-Id: <199806051721.SAA22009@boober.lineone.net>
From: "David S White" <david.s.white@lineone.net>
Subject: That "Difficult" Second Chord
Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 00:29:37 +0100

Dear Chalkists,

I've just played the three suggestions re. the second chord in Peter
Pumpkinhead, and I reckon Dave Blackburn's is the most likely, that is,
G6/9 (bottom to top: GBEADG).

Even if it's wrong, it's a beautiful chord, do you not think?

Scotland for the World Cup, by the way.

David White

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Message-Id: <s578297d.046@chemonics.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 17:21:34 -0400
From: Todd Bernhardt <tbernhardt@chemonics.com>
Subject: Kareful with those German references, pal!

Hi, chalkies:

Been busy with a new job, but two things struck me with enough force
today that I felt obliged to comment on them as I take a 5-minute
break to munch an apple (no PCs for me today, thank you very much!).

Ahem. Anyway, in an evocative post, Harrison trumpeted:

>[N]ow that I am free from the Tyranny of the Hip, now that I no longer feel
the need to consume the New merely because of the fact of its newness, now
that I have the tools to resist the relentless low-level anxiety that
television and Korporate Kulture tries to instill in me so I'll be a Good
German in my patterns of consumption, I am free to express the sorts of
*truly* rebellious thoughts that have been percolating in my cranium for 37
years.<

Ah, you poor, tragic, idealistic fool. Who do you think put those
thoughts there in the first place? Don't fight it, babe; we've got
you, we've always had you, and there's no escaping. Your illusion of
internal freedom is a ploy that we devised and implanted to force
overconfidence and public confessions from wannabe nonconformists like
yourself. The thing is, now that you've outed yourself in this manner,
you'll in for a little discipline -- O'Brian and the goons should be
there any time now to take you to Room 101 (you _know_ what's in Room
101), where the musical backdrop to your reindoctrination will consist
largely of hip-hop and tortured pentatonics, with a little Styx and
REO Speedwagon thrown in for good measure.

And now for item #2: All this talk about Travels in Nihilon got me
listening to Black Sea this morning (thank you for that, if nothing
else, Dom), and as I listened to the Somambulist I realized that Andy
was rather overtly tipping his hat to one Thomas Dolby by using TD's
trademark sonar "ping" throughout the song. This got me thinking about
and trying to remember other instances where XTC pay musical homage to
their peers and/or influences, and though I thought of a couple more,
I wondered if putting the question to the list might not start a fun
exchange of news and views. Now, I'm not talking about the Dukes --
that would be too easy. The influences there are blatant and
intentional. Nor am I talking about shared musical structure, such as
the similarity in the beat between "King for a Day" and Tears for
Fears' "Everybody Wants to Rule the World" -- TfF, after all, doesn't
own and didn't originate the 16th-note shuffle, and I don't believe
Colin was tipping his hat to them in KfaD (though you may very well
disagree). What I'm looking for here is clearly identifiable
flattery-by-imitation via attitude, sound, the way a certain chord is
used, etc. For example, Andy has said that he wanted Terry's drum beat
on "Rocket from a Bottle" to mimic the kind of "idiot cardboard-box
kind of drumming" that Velvet Underground drummer Mo Tucker might
play. Or (and this is too easy, but hopefully you know what I mean by
using it as an example) "Chalkhills and Children" has a lazy Beach
Boys feel.

What do you think, 'hillers? Worth discussing?

--Todd

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From: WillJ4comm@aol.com
Message-ID: <10228700.3578714c@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:29:30 EDT
Subject: one of the 3?

Hi all, here's a question for everyone:

I'm extremely happy with my xtc collection right now, but I haven't bought a
new xtc album since 92 when nonsuch came out. I recently repurchased drums
and wires and black sea to replace my vinyl, and I hadn't heard them in
about eight years (I had traded the vinyls in years ago with the intention
of eventually getting them on CD), so it was like having them new again, and
I've been LOVING them, especially Black Sea. Here are my current xtc albums:

Drums & Wires
Black Sea
English Settlement
Skylarking
Oranges & Lemons
Nonsuch
Dukes Anthology

I love all of those, but here's my question: does anyone think that Mummer,
Big Express or Rag & Bone measure up to my mighty five of BS, ES,
Skylarking, O&L or Nonsuch? Go ahead and email me privately if this doesn't
qualify as engaging Chalkhills reading. I've been thinking about picking one
up (I'll eventually get all of them), but do any of those stand as one of
the band's "best" in your opinion (not that they've ever done anything
outright bad), and if so, what makes the album ring for you?

By the way, I host an internet music show, and this week's show has a large
dose of XTC (they show up at least once on most of my shows). The address is
http://come.to/theblissroad

Enjoying the list, looking forward to more great reading.

Best, Will, California
P.S. - To the person who was looking for Southern California xtc fans, I'm
one!

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Message-ID: <19980605223335.22633.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "k. siegel" <beatlebird@hotmail.com>
Subject: "Peter Pumpkinhead" chord
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 15:33:35 PDT

It was written:

>G-B-E-A-D-G

>It's like a regular open G chord in standard tuning, but you fret
>the B-E-A
>combination with your second finger on the 2nd fret of the neck.

Ah, that B-E-A combo wouldn't have anything (cleverly disguised to us
non-musicians) to do with the B-E-A-tles, would it? I have always
thought (in the back of my mind) that that chord sounds suspiciously
similar to the chord at the beginning of "A Hard Day's Night".

Is there anyone out there able to transcribe that Beatles chord so we
can compare the two? If we read between the frets, perhaps we will be
able to see a  bit of typical XTC humor here.
----
From the Bungalow,
A very-non-musical-person-who-loves-music

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From: MPadg@aol.com
Message-ID: <8b356104.35787519@aol.com>
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 18:45:44 EDT
Subject: Musical tastes

jim d deuchars wrote:

>Many of us have been beating up on Dom lately. Just remember, he's one of
>us (the cool, the in, the heppest cats in this here litter box) in that
>he/we are a bit "proud" of our unusual musical tastes.

I am proud to say I'm a musical snob. I don't consume what is hip; I consume
good art. This has led me to XTC and the Chalkhills list. When I was 12, JC
Superstar was my favorite; now I realize that Andrew Lloyd Webber is the
musical Anti-Christ (I once saw a poll of songs that lounge pianists hate to
take requests for, and # 1 was "anything by ALW"). Appreciation of good art
requires exposure and education. I recall buying Coltrane's "The Other
Village Vanguard Tapes" when I was young, expecting another "Giant Steps". I
found it totally alien. A year or two later I pulled it out to show a friend
how weird Coltrane's music had become in his later years - and I couldn't
find the weird parts.

I appreciate the musical recommendations that come from this list. 99% of
music in any genre is crap. This list is the best way I have found to learn
about the good stuff. Dom: don't tease me with comments about the great metal
and hip-hop that we are ignoring. Tell me what it is. I will appreciate the
opinion of another XTC fan.

Regarding Harrison's reply to Dom: "What He Said!"

Recommended listening: Joe Jackson - Heaven & Hell

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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 16:00:57 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id: <199806052300.QAA25026@zoon.lafn.org>
From: bg769@lafn.ORG (Ian Dahlberg)
Subject: Pete Pumpkin

more chord ramblings

>Regarding chord voicings for Peter Pumpkinhead - the first chord is a D,
>voiced with the open D string ( NOT barred as I'm sure you probably knew)
>and it moves to what could be best called a G 6th (from the lowest string,
>3rd fret: GBDGDE, with the D, middle G and top E being played on open
>strings).  No wierd tunings here either.  And I suspect Andy plays this bit,
>not Dave.  Any other opinions?

        You could probably call the first chord an A7 sus.  I heard it as
(bottom to top) XXDGDE then going to the D chord as stated (XXDADF#).  For
awhile I thought your G6 voicing was the one but I'd have to go along with
other suggestions that it is GBEADX, a G6/9 (sorry for my previous
misinformation Andy & Shell!)  It feels like the top open 'E' should be
sounded but I don't think it's there.  Later on in the tune, the chord
during the lyric, "...made too many..."  feels like it should be an A chord
but it sort of sounds like he stays on the G chord.  That's a toughie to
hear. I love talking about this stuff, though.  More, more!

                                        Ian Dahlberg

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Message-ID: <01BD90A9.9C4B5F60@h243.s253.ts32.hinet.net>
From: Macgyver <tonikuo@ms10.hinet.net>
Subject: Re: Hipness commodified
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:44:33 +0800

Harrison Sherwood, in a frighteningly entertaining style that
makes one want to give up any pretensions of being literary/
literate, wrote:

> Dom, you're shadowboxing, but....  there's nobody in the other corner.

I take my hat off to your effortless use of metaphor (as I cringe in
jealousy at the same time).  This is the one of the reasons I continue to
peruse every Chalkhills digest, in spite of the fact that I don't find I
have a lot to say myself about XTC.  I love'em, yes... but I'm mostly
content to just sit back and enjoy what you all have to share.

Question: Are there any other "band" digests out there as erudite as this
one?  This isn't a rhetorical question.  I'm sincerely curious.

>Well now, actually I tell a lie, there _is_ somebody in the other corner,
> an entity known to us students of rhetoric as a:

> Straw man (n) 1: a weak or imaginary opposition (as an argument or
> adversary) set up to be easily confuted.

Exactly.  This is one of the neat things about growing up, is it not?  That
easy targets are unsatisfying and maybe even pointless, and that setting up
your own easy targets verges on the pathetic.

> Are you going to try to tell us you _really_ expected a hotbed of
> rabid support for hip-hop and tortured pentatonics in an XTC digest?

That there should even be a need to mention this...

>But I am grateful that you have provided us with the subject matter for a
> little digression on a topic dear to my heart: the Tyranny of the Hip.

I am not a fan of John Cougar Mellencamp (or whatever he calls himself these
days).  However, a friend once informed me of a quote by the man from
Indiana that resonated with us both.  When asked, in an interview, if he
considered himself to be hip, JCM replied:

"Hip is for teenagers."

No truer words were ever spoken, I believe.  And it pains me to recall that
it wasn't until I was about twenty-four that I heard and understood
Mellencamp's proverb.  For, isn't that special cachet of "being set apart
from the mind-numbing tastes of the masses" most fully enjoyed in the teen
years?  When the "hip" badge is worn beyond, say, the age of 20, it tends to
reach its nexus, should one follow it that far, in the dreary dead-end ethos
typified by the movie "Who Shot Andy Warhol".  No?

When you're a teenager, you sincerely believe that you're not simply being
sold the latest "hip, colourful, angsty, edgy trendoid sludge from Sony and
Time Warner".  This is understandable, as you are not yet a fully-grown
adult.  Most teenagers outgrow the obsession with hipness, and get on with
life.  And in the review of the book "Commodify Your Dissent", an excellent
point is made about the fact that the writers themselves tend to believe the
corporate line more than is reasonable.  After all, how many forty-five
year-old executives with multiple earrings and glass encased framed posters
of Jimi Hendrix on the wall truly believe that they are "rebels"?  It would
take a fantastic leap of faith to argue that they aren't fully aware
themselves of how they have been "co-opted", in spite of how "rad" their
apparel may be.

In the early 1980's XTC were truly hip.  Sure.  But then, so were other
bands, most of whom never lasted.  How many of you can stand to listen
to Echo and the Bunnymen more than once a year?

My position?  In spite of how much our society has become concerned with
"hip", many people are realizing that the whole thing was just a game/
marketing tool right from the beginning (post WWII), and are becoming tired
of the way the obsession with the zeitgeist seems to overshadow the need to
find art that makes a connection with you, that in your books has "quality",
or at least a certain "quality" that you find appealing or aesthetically
satisfying.

There.  Now if only I could have written that like Sherwood would have...

Don "willing to accept that Kerouac was ultimately a lousy writer but still
unwilling to find the activity of writing poetry in dark smoky taverns
ridiculous" Rogalski

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Message-ID: <35788497.85B04F55@home.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 18:51:51 -0500
From: Paul Rogers <progers@home.com>
Organization: @Home Network
Subject: LA chalkhillians unite

Well, I don't suppose my having an autographed minidisc box package of
Oranges and Lemons (each of the 3 discs also autographed by the boys),
or the many many import singles with great packaging I have gives me any
right at all to make this post, but .... here goes.

A great band highly influenced by XTC is showcasing at the Dragonfly in
Hollywood on wednesday June 17th at 10pm.  The band is signed to BMG
publishing who are shopping them and are called cLoCkWiSe.    Any LA
area XTC fans (or great brit pop fans) should go see this band.

I hope this very off subject post does not offend anyone, but I thought
the idea of finding great music inspired by XTC might be brought up
here.

Thank you so much for your time.   BTW if anyone is interested in any of
my collection just private e-mail me. - PCR

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Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 17:00:01 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id: <199806060000.RAA21107@mail.cruzio.com>
From: ziglain@cruzio.com (becki digregorio)
Subject: shindigs and sheep

hi gang,

first, all apologies up front for what may come out as a most fuzzy
posting.  got home night before last, am still on england-time, and woke up
bright and early at 5:00am this morning.  me, a musician!!  go figure...

just wanted to put my two "pence" in about the wondrous xtc gathering in
london on the 28th.  it was most keen to meet all those in attendance, to
toast the lads with fine ales and share a meal with like-minded folks and
get the chance to put faces to the names of some of those who post to this
fine list.  beanies off to tim for suggesting the shindig in the first
place.  and to neville farmer, if you're out there, thanks for coming and
putting up with our constant queries of all things xtc.  i'm sure the nite
would have gone on much longer, but what with the pubs closing at 11pm we
were ushered out the door of finnegan's wake pub, reluctant to have the
evening come to a close.  it was great to meet everyone who attended,
wondrous folks all!!

on more of a personal note: my stay in england wouldn't have been _nearly_
as much fun if it wasn't for sharing time with my dear friend and sweet
host simon sleightholm.  getting to meet you in person, simon, was the
highlight of my wonderful trip.  memories of the past two weeks keep
flooding in my mind: tripping around london, riding the tube, seeing the
plains of green with the sheep and cows, venturing up to scotland, a picnic
lunch among the ruins of warkworth castle, singing van morrison songs on
your couch to an audience of one, watching "withnail and i" ("we want
cake") and spending way too much money in virgin megastores.

thanks to simon i am now addicted to carling premiere beer, which
unfortunately i cannot locate back here in the 'states.  *help*

i think i can speak (write?) for many of us on this list by stating that
xtc fans are amazing folks, and i consider myself most fortunate to have
made some wonderful friends all because of these lads from swindon.

and mitch: thank you again for meeting up with me during my layover in jfk
airport on my way over.  it was great to see you again, i just wish we
didn't live on separate coasts.  "edge of the continent sadness" as jack
kerouac says.

now for a nap...

--becki, one of the seven

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Message-ID: <3578971C.8101CF11@netwalk.com>
Date: Fri, 05 Jun 1998 21:10:52 -0400
From: Ian C Stewart <stewart@netwalk.com>
Organization: AUTOreverse
Subject: XTC videos available/videos wanted

Hi y'all,

Need XTC videos? This list won't be up forever, so now's the time to
order.

Something else: I'm in dire need of NTSC copies of the videos for "The
Disappointed," and "Albert Brown." I have neither. Pretty pretty please
e-mail me if you got 'em.

And if you have any other XTC video I don't have, then definitely get in
touch, because you're my new best friend.

http://www.netwalk.com/~stewart/xtcvideo.htm

I also have videos of BJORK, COCTEAU TWINS (compilation), CHAMELEONS,
and KING CRIMSON (several actually), not to mention the MARK EITZEL gig
I shot myself in April 1998 available for trade.

Ian
http://www.netwalk.com/~stewart/

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Message-Id: <199806060540.WAA15979@mail.rapidnet.net>
From: "J & J Greaves" <jgreaves@rapidnet.net>
Subject: New Book Cover on Amazon
Date: Fri, 5 Jun 1998 22:30:23 -0700

If you want to see what the cover of the new XTC book may look like ( I say
may because Dave is in it ) then go to Amazon's site at www.amazon.com,
then go to Search By Keyword and then type in XTC. Click on the title and
there is the cover. They still say it's out in June '98.

This should be an excellent read. Love the Idea of the CD releases being
planned, especially the demoes collection!

John

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From: "Monkeyboy" <monkeyboy@theshop.net>
Subject: Wake Up Wav File
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 03:39:47 -0500
Message-ID: <000001bd9126$a9bd9280$250780d0@monkeybo.theshop.net>

A long time ago a fellow Chalkhillian sent me the greatest Windows StartUp
file.  It was an edited portion of "Wake Up." If you are still out there, I
have formatted me drive and desperately need the file again =)

Thanks

Michael

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From: garyt@dna1.dnet.co.uk (Gary Thompson)
Subject: Aus Visit
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 13:02:36 +0100
Message-ID: <000101bd9142$ff0aaa40$8e082ec2@gt628.dnet.co.uk>

I've been a lurker on this list for a while now, and have enjoyed the banter
back an forth on a range of topics. I'll be leaving N.Ireland for the month
of July to visit relatives in Brisbane, Australia, and would love to meet up
with any Chalkhillers in the vicinity for a small tincture (or two). Anybody
interested please e-mail me privately.
Cheers, Gary

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From: CCooli9575@aol.com
Message-ID: <a6b593b7.35793f86@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 09:09:25 EDT
Subject: Re: Cult of Personality

>Religion: raised Episcopalian (kind of like Catholicism but with condoms),
>now a regular of St. Mattress
>Political Party: Democrat until something better comes along
>Drugs: see above
>Job: project manager, electronic commerce
>Dream: travel the world; win the next Powerball lottery and fund XTC's
>future

  And so shall I.
Religion: Eckist, raised Episcopalian(like the above description!),
married to a Spiritualist
Political Party: Libertarian, former Democrat(Libertarians tend to be,
in a nutshell, socially liberal and fiscally conservative)
Drugs: nothing stronger than Tylenol, tea and vitamins
Job:Courier, Libertarian candidate for Vermont State Senate
Dream: For as many people as possible to be happy, joyous and free.

  Loved Harrison's rather long post. Rather than quote any of it(I wouldn't
know where to start!), I'd like to observe that a taste in music is only
racist if it's implied that people who like a certain form of music are
themselves without merit, which I don't think was anybody's intention
here. I think most people, no matter what color they are, tend to gravitate
towards what resembles what's most familiar to them. Diverse and catholic
tastes are distinctly in the minority, unfortunately. I have little use for
rap because it's as foreign to me as XTC would be foreign to a black kid in
a housing project somewhere. A suburban middle-class black kid would be more
likely to at least be familiar with certain forms of white music, but it
would be understandable for him to prefer what's culturally familiar. It's a
cultural thing, not a racial thing. I met this white rapper in Burlington,
VT a few years ago who told me he identified with rap because he grew up in
a black neighborhood and most of his friends were black. He even talked like
a stereotypical rapper type, but he was as white as I am.

Chris

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From: MFa2707621@aol.com
Message-ID: <6f2873a8.35799dab@aol.com>
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 1998 15:51:06 EDT
Subject: XTC Record Review Pt. 3

Chalkers,

Well, I'm back with another record review of a XTC album.  Well, this time
I'm going to review Nonsuch.  This album are good, but they're not as great
as Skylarking.  A lot of the songs sound like something The Beatles or Pink
Floyd might do.  My fave songs on the album are Holly Up on Poppy, Then She
Appeared, War Dance and Bungalow.  I think on this album some of the best
songs were written by Colin Moulding (sorry Andy).  On a scale of 1 to 10 I
give this album a 8.

To change the subject now, I'm planning to go see a great band on June 18th
here in Buffalo.  I don't know if you've heard of it.  It's a little band
from England called, Squeeze.  Oh no, she's talking about Squeeze on an XTC
web site, how awful.  I don't think it's awful.  Yes, I know that Chris
Difford did something awful, but I'm not going to stop listening to them
because of it.  If you want to ask me how the concert went e-mail me,
because I don't want to clog up this web page with talk about Squeeze.

Bye for now.

Molly
My homepage is members.tripod.com/~MollyFa/index.html (You will get the
Tripod homepage ad, but just click X or whatever to close the ad.  My web
site is underneath that.  Come and check it out.)

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Message-ID: <357A9ED4.1C58@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Jun 1998 10:08:20 -0400
From: Tim <tim63@earthlink.net>
Subject: London/Swindon/White Chalk Horse

Hi Everyone!

Finally caught up on all my email after being away.
Just a quick note to thank everyone who attended the
the LONDON CHALKHILL GATHERING.  I had a great time
and I hope you all did too (I'm pretty sure everyone did).
It's been said before, but Chalkhill people really are
the nicest people you'd ever want to meet.

Neville Farmer is a super nice guy and it was great to
hear his stories about XTC.  I can't wait until the book
comes out - it's going to be brilliant!

I also had a good time hanging out with Simon and Becki
the next day.  London is a great city, with lots to see
and do.  One week wasn't enough time for me - I already
want to go back!

Now, to make some of you jealous, I took a day trip out
to the countryside and visited SWINDON!!!  Only spent
about an hour there, but it was worth it.  The Railway Museum
just closed before we got there, but I took a picture through
the glass.  I got my picture taken standing next to a Swindon sign/map
on the street.  Will try to get it scanned and put on my website this
week.

After Swindon, we went to the famous White Chalk Horse.
It was AWESOME!!!!  I highly recommend the trip out there
- it's worth the effort.  The Horse itself is very large
and on the top of a large hill.  The view from the top of
the hill is fantastic!  I got my picture taken standing next
to the "eye" which is about 3 feet by 2 feet - very big!
Again, I'll try to scan and put on my site.

Overall I had a great time, met some great Chalkhill people,
and I'm looking forward to taking another trip over there
sometime.

That's all for now.

    Tim K.

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From: RiknBkr@aol.com
Message-ID: <fc42d1d3.357ac09b@aol.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Jun 1998 12:32:26 EDT
Subject: Re:Chalkhills statistics

And so shall I:
>Religion: raised Episcopalian (kind of like Catholicism but with condoms),
now a regular of St. Mattress
Political Party: Democrat until something better comes along
Drugs: see above
Job: project manager, electronic commerce
Dream: travel the world; win the next Powerball lottery and fund XTC's
Future<

Phil in Santa Barbara responds:
Religion: Catholic (but kind of Episcopalian due to using condoms).
Political Party: See above
Drugs: see above
Job: Laser Technician/Customer Service Rep. For company fighting the war
against Cancer.
Dream: Be Dave Gregory's replacement in XTC. (How cheeky).

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