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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 4, Number 130

                Wednesday, 26 August 1998

Today's Topics:

                in defence of the Minister
         Opinions, Opinions / Favorite XTC album
          A few parting thoughts before I leave
                70's, ChOriginals, and XTC
            In response to Defence of Swindon!
                        vote XTC!
       Re: Andy, Swindon, Primus...you name it....
                    Re: The Challenge
            Re: I Think You're Losing My Mind
                         The Jam
                   Well well well......
                 Phair is more than fair
                   Re: XTC VH1 Profile
         The boy with the Danny Partridge haircut
              Billy's Hollywood Screen Kiss
                     XTC Yahoo "Club"
                       R-r-r-ralph!
                      XTC the drink
                         Nose Job
             Chalkhills & Children : The Book
                       XTC In a Can
         It Loosens Something in the Translation
            The Sugarplastic and Jason Falkner

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From: PiriyaV3@aol.com
Message-ID: <1fb5452f.35e0e819@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 00:12:08 EDT
Subject: in defence of the Minister

Brian Carter <xyg27@dial.pipex.com> wrote:

>Has anyone noticed how all those criticising Swindon have never been here?
>
>The aptly-named "Minister of Propoganda" is the latest to fall into the
>trap and exposed an ugly prejudice.
>
>He seems to have naively accepted the misinformed views of his 'English
>family' - who probably also have never been to Swindon (and who somewhat
>ironically live in London). Perhaps he would do better to judge for
>himself.
>
>> Needless to say, I still haven't made it to Swindon yet.
>
>I rest my case.

First of all, I'd like to say that the Minister of Propaganda is a SHE, not a
HE.  Secondly, I was not criticising Swindon in the slightest, nor were the
members of my family, really.  In all reality, they were criticising ME in
this farce more than they were badmouthing Swindon!  I was merely providing
what I thought was a humourous anecdote in response to Ira Lieman's post.  I'm
not sure if my family has been to Swindon, but it's all in good fun when they
tease me about my wanting to visit.  It's not everyday that an American would
excitedly ask to go to Swindon, now is it?  They found it very odd that I even
knew such a place existed.  In conclusion, I say I haven't made it to Swindon
because I haven't the resources (namely money) to return to England, not
because I have "naively accepted the misinformed views" of my English family.

- Piriya
Minister of Propaganda
http://www.lfc.edu/~vongkpp

"And praise will come to those whose kindness leaves you without debt, and
bends the shape of things to come that haven't happened yet."  -- Neil Finn

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Message-ID: <35E0EA3D.3F72@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 21:21:17 -0700
From: Rich/MetalMan <cbunnell@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Opinions, Opinions / Favorite XTC album

Okay, okay, I get the point by now, Duran Duran are pretty much the
entire 80's put into one band, and they're lyrically and musically
shallow. Christ, everyone has a guilty pleasure, let me have mine! I
REALIZE the songs don't have depth, I go to other singers and bands for
that. Duran Duran is only what I listen to for mindless fun, and yes, I
know, for many, many of you it doesn't even amount up to that.

   Regarding the whole Dexy's mess, I shouldn't have referred to the
entire band as crap when I've only heard one song by them (Come On
Eileen, of course). Therefore I don't think Dexy's Midnight Runners
suck, but the song IMHO, does. It just sounds like a bunch of
hillbillies pounding a piano to me. The rest of their songs I have not
heard, and therefore can't, and shouldn't, have given an opinion on.

   Oookay, enough of that. Responding to the "Opinions on your favorite
XTC album" post, considering that I'm pretty new and haven't responded
to such a post as of yet, I'll reply to it this time. I'd have to go
with the Big Express. Every XTC album I've listened to has had to grow
on me in some way, I've just recently warmed up to Oranges & Lemons,
still warming up to Drums & Wires, and remember that period of time when
I thought Skylarking was "boring."

   Not with the Big Express -- all of the songs immediately caught on to
me. Smalltown, This World Over, Wake Up(now one of my favorite songs
ever), You're The Wish You Are I Had, All You Pretty Girls, Seagulls
Screaming, Shake You Donkey Up, and ESPECIALLY the climactic Train
Running Low On Soul Coal were ALL instant musical classics to me. Plus,
it's pretty much XTC's only hard-edged, jerky-guitar album from their
later period; most of their later albums are full of slower songs. Why
am I telling you this?

   Anyway, just thought I'd share a few opinions. Let sleeping dogs lie
and don't touch the whole Duran/Dexy controversy again -- musical taste
wars are extremely hard to "win."

* ----------------------------------------------
Rich Bunnell or "Metal Man," whichever sounds more insane
http://members.xoom.com/taoster/
* ----------------------------------------------

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Message-ID: <19980824042448.18823.rocketmail@web4.rocketmail.com>
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 21:24:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Cheryl <cxtc@rocketmail.com>
Subject: A few parting thoughts before I leave

Hey there chalkpeople,

Mr. RALPH expressed:
>But as a person named Ralph, I take great exception
>to Ralph Feins(his spelling) calling himself
>R-a-i-f.  If you don't like your name change the way
>it is spelled you idiot!

Yikes, Ralph.  You don't happened to be named after
that very small character in Judy Blume's book,
"Forever"....are you?  Anyway...
First, are you absolutely POSITIVE that the way YOU
pronoun the name Ralph is the correct way?  The
orginal way?  The English language is a funny thing
you know.  And, if you wanted to make your point
about spelling the name correctly you could have at
least spelt Raif right.  It's RAEF, by the way.
How do you know that Ralph is not some middle English
name pronounced Raef?  Just some things to think
about...

And

OKAY!  I CAN'T TAKE IT ANY LONGER!  I MUST COME
FORWARD....  I was once a complete and utter hopeless
Duranie.  Posters galore adorned my walls and the
stack of pin-ups was inches tall.  I STILL own all
the 12"s and albums I bought.  I can't part with
them.  In this day and age they do not fit, but at
the time I really enjoyed them and was really into
their music.  They were fun!  And that is why I liked
them.  I don't care what any of you yahoos think!
Every now and then it is a blast to get the old
albums out and dance my little heart out.

Now I must bid farewell for a short time.  It's not
in anger that I have to unsubscribe but good fortune!
 I have landed a job I love in one of my favourite
cities...Boston!  This Tuesday, August 25th, I start
a cross-country trek to my new home.  I hope it won't
be too long before I am back online.  Thanks to all
my XTC friends who have been a wonderful support
system to me.  Who would have thought that joining a
mailing list could bring so many great friends!

Take care everyone!
Cheryl

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Message-ID: <19980824053650.12872.qmail@hotmail.com>
From: "Bob Crain" <bobcrain@hotmail.com>
Subject: 70's, ChOriginals, and XTC
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1998 22:36:49 PDT

>From: Ralph DeMarco <r.demarco@elsevier.com>
>
>In my opinion the 1970s were the most important decade in
>so-called rock music.  I realize that this is a dangerous
>statement to make considering Disco is associated with the
>70s, but that was an anomaly in an otherwise mind-boggling
>creative decade.

You could be right, Ralph.  The 70's take such a knocking...

Speaking of which, has anyone on the list seen "That 70's Show" on TV?
I missed it, but my friend told me that the theme music is "Out In The
Street" by Big Star, and that the plot included the characters going to
see Todd Rundgren!

>From: nross <phoenixyellowrose@rocketmail.com>

>Like the subject heading states, I was wondering if ya'll could
>offer up opinions on what the best XTC album is. Thanks, Nicole

Whoops!  There she goes....

The best XTC album is "English Settlement".  Er, I think...

>From: mmyers@notes.cc.bellcore.com
> It led me to think of Dave's departure from XTC and
>Harrison's comment awhile back that Andy's solos on "Books are Burning"
>show that he is a very good guitarist in his own right.
>

Yes he is, and just too damn humble about it.

>From: "MARK G. CUEVAS" <MGCUEVAS@phjw.com>

>I am happy to announce that "Awaken You Dreamers" is now shipping.
>The first batch went out today.

I plan to buy this tape very soon.  Thanks for the reminder, Mark!

>From: "Pedretti-Allen, Richard (Richard)" <rpa@lucent.com>

>With the proliferation of the use of "XTC", I fear that our heroes will
>have a tough time reclaiming their sole rights to the name (unless THEY
>weren't the first ones to use it!).  The more this name is used, the
>tougher it is to defend.

I think the cows are out of the barn on this one, Richard.  I'll bet
Virgin would have sued a lot of people a long time ago if only XTC had
become as popular as U2!

-Bob Crain

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Message-ID: <19980824124712.28531.rocketmail@attach1.rocketmail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 05:47:12 -0700 (PDT)
From: nross <phoenixyellowrose@rocketmail.com>
Subject: In response to Defence of Swindon!

Go Brain Carter! It is great to defend your home! I'd probably
do the same thing for good old Richboro, PA... Hmmm, I don't
think so!

===

"... It takes all sorts of in and outdoor schooling to
get accustomed to my kind of fooling" -R.Frost

The trouble with her is that she lacks the power of conversation, but
not the power of speech.
-- George Bernard Shaw

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Message-ID: <35E1704E.F3E591CF@pop.uky.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:53:19 -0400
From: james isaacs <jmisaa00@pop.uky.edu>
Subject: vote XTC!

Mr. Showbiz, an entertainment-based site, is having a "Vote for the best
album of the decade" contest.  They have done the 60s and 70s, and are now
on the 80s.  I feel there is nothing wrong with trying to stuff the ballot
box in Swindon's favor.  There is only one album on the list from XTC (ES),
which does not mean you cannot write in albums-you can.  So, I urge everyone
this week to go to this site:
http://www.wallofsound.com/features/stories/top_100_albums/80s/ and at least
hit English Settlement as one choice.  Also, tell everyone you know to do
the same. It requires an e-mail address to vote, so if you have more than
one, use it.  Maybe we can spread the word about XTC this way-who knows?

James
--
"Humanity is the history of revenge"-Robyn Hitchcock
http://www.geocities.com/thetropics/cabana/4665
The James Isaacs Garage/Tour of Europe

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Message-Id: <199808240921.CAA04771@sgi.sgi.com>
From: "Brian Carter" <xyg27@dial.pipex.com>
Subject: Re: Andy, Swindon, Primus...you name it....
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:56:30 +0100

This is getting to be a habit.

Thanks to Steven Graff for writing the funniest thing I have read
in a very long time...

>Swindon. Lovely wretched Swindon. Who would believe something as
>lovely and intoxicating as XTC would come out of such a reportedly
>dreary place?

>One English acquaintence told me that if I ever went there, I
>should carry a knife and know how to use it. She also said that
>it wasn't a good place to find a boyfriend either, and if she was
>seeing someone and found out he was from Swindon, she'd start laying
>down the law about how they were NERVER going back to HIS place.

I particularly liked the bit about the knife. Very funny.

But wait a minute... I think he's serious. I think he BELIEVES it.
Ha ha, that makes it even funnier. But surely in this day and age no one
could be that naive?

As I said in my earlier post, isn't it strange that all those people
making ridiculous statements about Swindon have never been here?

I am afraid your description could not be further from the truth. And
if you don't believe me, perhaps you could ask the Partridge, Moulding
and Gregory families - all of whom still choose to live here.

Anyway, must go now. I'm going out. Musn't forget my knife. Ha ha ha ha.

Brian Carter
Swindon, United Kingdom
www.swindonweb.com

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Message-ID: <35E15079.4D64@ns1.mindmagic.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:37:34 +0100
From: btm <btm@ns1.mindmagic.com>
Organization: RMC Interactive
Subject: Re: The Challenge

Tschalkgerz!

Jeff said:

>XTC won't make it here simply because they don't sound like anyone else and
try to challenge the listener with each record (well, up to O&L at least).
It's too much work for the average Joe to get into.<

THIS is a subject of interest for me...

First off, if the vast majority of the generic public is overwhelmed by
the music that XTC provides, O&L and Nonesuch aren't any different that
they'll suddenly be able to relate to them, and I tire of all the
O&L/Nonesuch naysaying that goes on around here. The music on these two
STILL blow away the incredibly vast majority of the rest of what's out
there for us to buy, so raspberries to the lot of ya... ;-)

Now, WHY IS XTC's music so hard for the generic public to fathom? I
don't know if it's just me, but from the moment I put my first XTC album
on ("ES", on Rolling Stone Magazines' recommendation, lo these many
years past), I never had the first lick of trouble relating. In fact, it
was a revelation. A revelation that I have attempted to share with a lot
of people who JUST DON'T GET IT! Why?!? It's music... it has a beat...
time signatures aren't all that out there... much of the music follows
basic song structure rules... there's hugely competent playing going
on... but WHY, because I like XTC, do a lot of the people that I've
associated with since think I'm some kind of nutcase for digging it?

I've always tried to put my finger on this... why doesn't a cool little
pop tune like "Mayor Of Simpleton" just get overplayed to hell on the
radio? There's a radio station locally that I would consider a great
candidate for playing XTC  (particularly the new stuff WHEN IT GETS
HERE), but I somehow get the feeling it won't happen.

-Brian

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From: R.Crawford@mgn.co.uk
Message-ID: <8025666A.00669D63.00@mgnmail4.mgn.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:37:31 +0100
Subject: Re: I Think You're Losing My Mind

>From: Dominic Lawson <LAWSOND@parliament.uk>

Molly says:

>>>I read that The Avengers suck, well, I'll find out myself.  I don't listen
>>>to anybody except myself.  I'm a die hard Avengers fan, and I'll find out
>>>myself.  I've heard mixed things about the movie, but let me find out
>>>myself.

>That's FOUR (count 'em!) "myself"s. Interesting approach...
>You are, of course, free to see whichever films you like. Seriously, none of
>us mind. I bet it does suck though.

Hmmm I enjoyed the film well enough (I wasn't expecting much), though it
would have been nice to see AP with a role in it along side Shawn Ryder &
Eddie Izzard as a heavy.

>Michael says:

>>>does anyone know what the guy sings
>>>after the title?  it's like "La Bamba".  "Come on Eileen, oh a Sway
>>>da bulee"

>Erm, no. "La Bamba", my knob.

Don't really want to know about that region thank you !

>He actually sings "Come on Eileen, oh I swear, at this moment......" - as
>you well know. Stop being rotten about nice Mr Rowland. OK, so he has
>perhaps one of the most bizarre singing voices in pop history, but Jesus,
>can the man sing?
>You bet your retro-80s ass.

Funny Mr Rowland accused (I)Van Morrison of singing like an animal (I
suppose something about glass houses and stones is appropiate here).

Hmmm the sight of Kevin singing "Jackie Wilson Said", and a large picture
of Jocky Wilson being displayed in the background is always going to appear
when I hear Dexys played.

>Yes, Dom. True enough, but don't forget Blue Zoo, Jimmy The Hoover, Toto
>Coelo and Rocky Sharpe & The Replays.
>Oh, and Coast to Coast. Ah, the memories.......

One The Juggler ?

Still get out your Guinness book of hit singles and have a look at the 60's
they where even worse (but happily I was too young).

Mike

Dominic Lawson any relation to Late Review, or even perhaps We're only
making plans for Nigella ?

(Don't take offence I'm only being playful)

>Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 13:05:47 -0400
>Subject: Andy's guitar playing

>I am NOT saying that Dave won't be missed;  I'm sure that we all will miss
>him terrible.  And I agree with those who will say that Dave's virtuosity
>on guitar far outshines Andy's.  But I believe that Andy will contribute
>some great guitar licks to future XTC releases.

Hmmm dunno about Daves virtuosity, as the band never went for the virtuoso
solo stuff, but IMHO Dave gathered a lot of influences together and added a
lot of those bits that are partially hidden (bit like the subtile
ingredients in a bloody good curry).

I reckon his parts add the final twists that make the songs so hard to play
and fun to listen to.

But then I am biased.

Personally I think all the 'boys' should have got out more over the last
few years then perhaps the time in the studio wouldn't have been so
dissapointing to Dave.

But then what do we know about it any way, we only listen to songs and read
interviews, so we shouldn't really speculate on past, present & future,
though a reconsilliation would be nice (I could supply beer and currys if
required).

Rob...

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Message-ID: <0143041F00B7D011B7C500A0C900515117390D@IMA_NT1>
From: "BOB O'BANNON" <BOBANNON@IMAweb.com>
Subject: The Jam
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:12:04 -0500

I think it was Chris who wrote:

>>>The Jam I still miss; The Style Council sounded like a young white
guy with a limited voice trying to do classic soul and not quite
succeeding. Paul Weller's 90's solo material has been a distinct
improvement, but nothing compares to The Jam at their peak; I was even
more into them than XTC in the early 80's.<<<

	Me too. (Over time, however, XTC waged a successful campaign to
overthrow the Jam as my favorite band). I've always been somewhat
surprised by the relative obscurity into which the Jam seems to have
fallen. I don't see them cited much as influences among groups today,
even though much of the alternative scene, from Green Day to Blur to
Oasis, owes a lot to them. Do you ever see Jam flashbacks on MTV? And
how 'bout a Jam tribute album? That's a project that is long overdue.

	It's amazing how well the old Jam albums have aged over time --
put on "Setting Sons" or "All Mod Cons" and notice how fresh,
invigorating and current they still sound (even our beloved XTC have
dated themselves in some places). And you have to respect Mr. Weller for
not manufacturing a shameless Jam Reunion Tour, which has had to be a
temptation for him. But while we're on the subject, I wonder what Rick
Buckler and Bruce Foxton are up to these days?

	Hey, anybody know what's going on with Elvis Costello? Seems
he's been silent longer than usual.

	Bob O'Bannon

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From: LadyCPlum@aol.com
Message-ID: <82406715.35e1da3e@aol.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:25:17 EDT
Subject: Well well well......

And that's all I have to say.

Ralph-Now now, Ralph Fiennes has no control over how his name is pronounced.
Blame his parents! Besides, it's being pronounced the Old English way, I
believe. But he could be called Pukenose for all I care. He's still a great
actor.

Andrew Stevens-Fan de los Crash Test Dummies? Bueno! Por favor, habla ingles.
(Hope I spelled that right.) No comprende'!

And if I may throw my weight into the Duran Duran vs. Dexy's Midnight Runners
argument-Screw 'em both. Gimme the Fixx.

Tis all for now,
Amanda
XTC song of the day-My Bird Performs.
non-XTC song of the day-Love My Way-Psychedelic Furs
movie of the day-Como Agua Para Chocolate

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Message-ID: <35E1E85A.ED104D2@mail.utexas.edu>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:25:31 -0600
From: Jason Garcia <h.h.name@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: Phair is more than fair

Chalkmeisters,

No XTC content here but it's short so I should be excused:

BUY LIZ PHAIR'S ALBUM IMMEDIATELY!!  This is definitely one of the
best albums of the year.  It has not left my CD player since I bought it
on
Friday, and most of the songs have been running through my head all
weekend.

That is all.
Jason

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Message-ID: <35E1EACD.950@heraldonline.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:36:05 -0500
From: BPeschel@heraldonline.com (Bill Peschel)
Organization: The Herald
Subject: Re: XTC VH1 Profile

Greetings;

Harry wrote

Also, what are the chances of VH1 here in the states making a Behind The
Music show on our boys?  I would think XTCs story is more fascinating
then Ozzy Osbourne's even to people who've never heard of them.

To which I say;

I agree. Most of them have been pretty interesting, but they just showed
one on Ted Nugent, that made him out to be Elvis in a loin cloth ("Four
decades in the music business! A wild man on stage and in his
politics!")

All I can remember about him is one hit ("Cat Scratch Fever") and
politics so right-wing it makes G. Gordon Liddy look like a
tree-hugging, chardonnay-sipping limosene liberal.

XTC is far more interesting than this.

-- Bill Peschel
Book page editor, Rock Hill (S.C.) Herald

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Message-Id: <v04003a01b20762ab3c06@[208.240.250.142]>
From: Ken Herbst <ken@bamadvertising.com>
Subject: The boy with the Danny Partridge haircut
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:14:56 -0600

First, an apology to those folks who recently emailed me. Especially the
terrific Brit who sent me his list of must-haves. My machine crashed right
after your email, and I've been doing mouth-to-mouth for several days.
Sorry I didn't respond :(

Next, Andrew Stevens says:

>  Y no creo que sea el unico. Antes habia una muchacha, fan de los Crash Test
>  Dummies, cuya direccion era de mexico, igual que la mia. Lo de Scott Thunes
>  no te lo puedo aclarar, aunque si lo repites en ingles  sobrara quien pueda.

I say, "Vominos la playa!  Ole!"

Next, saw Neil Finn last night at La Zona Rosa here in Austin. He was
wonderful. Had a terrific backup band which included his sixteen year
old (Danny-Partridge-lookalike) son. I love the fact that,
intermittently, everyone in the band would jump up and trade
instruments -- and they played their instruments convincingly. Now
that's musicianship! Any dawdlers out there need to pick up Finn's "Try
Whistling This." It's a tremendous album.

Are there any Blue Nile fans among you Chalkhillians? BN is an amazing
Scottish band who've put out only three albums in 14 years. Moody.
Surreal. And powerfully quiet. "A Walk Across The Rooftops" is one of
my favorite albums of all time. "Hats" is a particularly moving album
as well.

Also, those of you in the UK should check out a band called Rialto. I'm
really impressed with their recent eponymous effort. Any band who lists
John Barry as a primary influence peeks my attention. Unfortunately the
disc has not yet been released here in the U.S. (Keep your eyes
peeled.)

Not sure why, but they kind of remind me of the Liverpudlian band, The
Real People, an outstanding group that's largely unknown here in the
states. In my opinion, their only U.S. release "The Real People", is
one of the best albums of the early nineties. You can probably find
this disk in a cutout or 99-cent pile somewhere. Such a shame. No
marketing. Typical.

There just don't seem to be that many bands, in recent memory, who
regularly give me goose bumps -- but all of these bands do. You should
give them a listen.

Thanks all.  Offer a smile to at least one stranger today. And, please,
please live to tell about it.

	--- Ken H

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Message-ID: <19980825002618.291.rocketmail@send1b.yahoomail.com>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:26:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: ika fue <ikafue@yahoo.com>
Subject: Billy's Hollywood Screen Kiss

I did a quick check in the archives before I posted this and did not
get a hit.

XTC is mentioned in the movie "Billy's Hollywood Screen Kiss"

I was so excited I spilled some popcorn....

I hope everyone is well.

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Message-ID: <35E20F2B.23F2C948@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 18:11:07 -0700
From: Wesley Hanks <whanks@earthlink.net>
Subject: XTC Yahoo "Club"

Hi,
Last digest I posted about the "Club" I set up with yahoo.com,

http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/xtcenglandsglory

I mentioned that it was a chat room - it is, but it is also a bulletin
board to post messages. To post or enter the chat room, there is a brief
one-time  "join-the-club" procedure. I assure you there is no hazing.
Well, on second thought, maybe there should be...oh, never mind, I was
overcome with visions of Amanda eating some live goldfish, Harrison
painting the statue of Hamilton chartreuse, or perhaps Dom reciting all
known XTC lyrics in the middle of a crowded restaurant. ;-)

Back to School,
Wes Hanks
http://home.earthlink.net/~whanks

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Message-Id: <199808250246.VAA24133@sky.net>
From: "Scott Taylor" <staylor@sky.net>
Subject: R-r-r-ralph!
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 21:52:23 -0500

> Good for you. But as a person named Ralph, I take great
> exception to Ralph Feins calling himself R-a-i-f. If you don't
> like your name - change the way it is spelled you idiot!

But it could be worse --- I come from Kansas City, where our mayor Ralph
Cleaver wants us all to believe his first name is pronounced "Emmanuel".

Scott Taylor
staylor@sky.net
(Extending off-topic apologies to our esteemed moderator, Mr. John Reif.)

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Message-ID: <35E22F5D.35378A45@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 20:28:29 -0700
From: Wesley Hanks <whanks@earthlink.net>
Subject: XTC the drink

Hi Chalks,

Previous digests have made passing references to a high energy drink
marketed as "XTC". A few people have seen it in stores, I spotted a
homeless man sporting a cap with the drink's logo.

Swing by www.xtc-power.com/main.html

to view the hat and T-shirt they are selling for $15.20 each incl. s&h.
These could be mistaken for bona fide XTC (the band) merchandise.

I couldn't resist the ad copy from the site:

"XTC is power and energy unlimited! It has unmistakable taste,
compelling spirit and a distinct design. Drink XTC . . . an herbal power
drink that helps sharpen one's mind and senses. Energy drinks have been
popular in Asia and Europe for years. You can drink XTC as a mixer or
straight up in some of the world's greatest clubs! Try these
concoctions: Absolute XTC - Absolute vodka & XTC
Sextacy - Champaign & XTC
Southern XTC - Whiskey & XTC
XTC. . . it's easy to remember and difficult to forget.
We live in a fast-paced society. People today are busier than any
previous generation ever was. Exhaustion is part of a demanding
lifestyle; and the need for a stimulating drink is entirely logical.
XTC will help push yourself to the outer limits.
XTC delivers! It replenishes your natural resources.
XTC adds to your performance, improves endurence, adds speed reaction
time and power!
XTC gives your body and mind power & energy!
An energetic blend of mystical herbs, vital vitamins, amino acids,
caffeine and carbonation gives the body a rejuvinated experience and
sensation. GUARANA - Extracted from the roasted seeds of a rare
Brazilian plant, guarana is immensely popular in South America as both a
source of energy and an aphrodisiac.GINSENG - Known to relieve stress,
many believe it adds life and longevity.TAURINE and other amino acids -
These ingredients play a key role in the development of the nervous
system. Turine and other amino acids are essential when your body
requires extreme efforts. Turine will stimulate the metabolism and have
a detoxicating effect. It will aid in increasing muscle mass, energy and
speed up the combustion of fat. VITAMINS - Key with blood metabolism,
aids with maximum blood efficiency: Vitamin B-1 Thiamin, Vitamin B-2
Riboflavin, Vitamin B-3 Niacin, Vitamin B-5 Pantothenic Acid, and
Vitamin B-6 Pyridoxina. CAFFEINE - Serves as an accelerator to increase
the effects of taurine and other mystical herbs contained in XTC.
Drink XTC!"

What a hoot! I need to listen to Devo's "That's Pep!" now.

Wired,
Wes Hanks
http://home.earthlink.net/~whanks
http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/xtcenglandsglory

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Date: 25 Aug 98 13:54:08 AST
From: PCulnane@dca.gov.au
Subject: Nose Job
Message-ID: <0000sgiksqia.0000qycmawgs@dca.gov.au>

The below para comes from the Primus website:
http://www.primussucks.com

I like "Rhinoplasty", as I did with "Miscellaneous Debris".  The CD-ROM
portion of the new one is pretty cute too. Recommended.
~p@ul
         __________________________________

Scissorman - XTC
         "Scissorman" is from the album Drums and Wires. It
         is the second tune we've covered from this particular
         album, the first being "Making Plans for Nigel" which
         appeared on the Miscellaneous Debris album.
         Ironically, when we toured with U2 a few years ago
         Bono told me that PRIMUS reminded him of XTC. I took
         it as a large compliment.  (bassist Les Claypool)

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From: MFa2707621@aol.com
Message-ID: <25d8df63.35e24446@aol.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 00:57:41 EDT
Subject: Chalkhills & Children : The Book

Chalkers,

I just got Chalkhills & Children the book by Chris Twomby.  I love this book.
I've found some interesting things about them.  The only thing I need to know
is, is this book acuate, or is it full of lies?  I don't think it's full of
lies, but I'm not sure.

I second the motion about VH1 here in America doing a Behind the Music show
on them.  I think we should all write to VH1 about the idea.  Just go to
www.vh1.com or AOL keyword VH1.

NON XTC CONTENT

If anyone wants to join my newwave2 mailing list check out my web page at
www.trpod.com/~MollyFa/index.html.  I'm looking for new people.

Molly

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Message-Id: <199808251321.GAA09867@sgi.sgi.com>
From: Spike <gill@dbcity.com>
Subject: XTC In a Can
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 08:21:40 +0000

Heyo,

This may have been brought up before and with my lazy mail reading
habits I probably missed it, but I found at a BBQ/Gas station here in
Austin Texas a can of XTC.  Big block letters and claiming to be a
carbonated slap in the face. "Please note XTC's stimulating effect if
consumed in the evening".  There is a phone number on it for those
interested. (716)-381-3560

Darin B.

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Message-ID: <35E2E025.8E77647B@intermetrics.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 12:03:20 -0400
From: Harrison Sherwood <sherwood@intermetrics.com>
Subject: It Loosens Something in the Translation

> From: "Hall of Fame Records" <halloffame@ctv.es
> Subject: scott thunes - xtc

> En los creditos del album
> Skylarking aparece un tal Scott Thunes y seria feliz si resultara ser el
> bajista que estuvo con Zappa durante varios anos pues es un tipo que me cae
> especialmente bien.

(Question is, is the Scott Thunes in the credits of Skylarking the same as
the bassist who played with Zappa?)

Es el mismo Scott Thunes (pero el credito no aparece en Skylarking sino en
Oranges and Lemons), y la legendaria conexion musical entre Swindon y Laurel
Canyon se ha hecho un poquitito mas fuerte aun. ?Por que no nos arrodillemos
en rezo, dando las gracias fervientes que vivemos en un mundo donde existen
tales coincidencias deliciosas? Del Archivo Chalkhills, 1-245 (14 Oct. 1992),
sometido por un tal Toby Howard, resumido de una entrevista con Dave Gregory:

(Trans.: A-yep.)

> - Funny story about Frank Zappa: a few years ago Scott Thunes and Mike
> McNealy (sp?) [damned right to question that spelling, Toby old cock,
> that's  Mike Keneally, who replaced Adrian Belew as Zappa's last Stunt
> Guitarist. He's also also credited on O&L and can be examined at
> exhaustive length at http://www.moosenet.com/keneally.html--HS] from
> Zappa's band -- big XTC fans -- called Dave to invite him and Andy to
> go up to Birmingam NEC to see the Zappa gig. Free tickets, backstage
> passes, the lot....Dave said the gig was great, and he and Andy went
> backstage, hoping to meet the geat Mr Z. They spotted Zappa about to
> get into his limo and Scott Thunes shouted 'Hey Frank, this is Dave
> and Andy from XTC'. Zappa replied: "Mup", climbed into his limo and
> split. Dave told this story because on the wall of his home studio he
> has a picture sent to him by a friend of Thunes. It's a portrait of
> Zappa, with a speech bubble saying 'Mup'. Underneath is written an
> explanation: 'Mup is a Californian term meaning 'Ah, hello Dave and
> Andy of XTC. I have long admired XTC and it is a great pleasure to
> meet you.... etc ...'

Just in case there wasn't enough dilatory grabassing going on, I fed that
last sentence to the Babelfish (http://babelfish.altavista.digital.com),
went from English to Spanish and back again, and got, "'Mup' is a
Californian meaning 'ampere hour of the term, hello Dave and Andy of XTC. I
have admired of length XTC and is a great pleasure to satisfy him.'" WHOOO!
"Download SYSTRAN Personal," guilelessly urge the cheerful thimbleriggers at
Alta Vista, butter completely failing to melt in their mouths, "Translate
your private documents in seconds!" And I am absolutely *melting* the UUNET
East Coast Backbone doing just that, thinking of the joyful Jarry-esque
jumble of sexy double-entendres, misaligned antecedents, and irrelevant
units of measurement I can introduce into my will, my mortgage agreement,
and my voluminous personal correspondence.

I sure hope them embassy-hating terrorist guys with the incompetent beards
and closely-knit eyebrows don't figure out how easy it is to induce a
matter/antimatter reaction in San Mateo, CA. All they gotta do is feed the
first few pages of Finnegans Wake
(http://www.trentu.ca/faculty/jjoyce/fw.htm) to the Babelfish. I just did
it; fucker reached Mach 3--heading straight up--before flaming
out...immovable object meeting irresistible force....

(bababadalgharaghtakamminarronnkonnbronntonnerronn-
tuonnthunntrovarrhounawnskawntoohoohoordenenthurnuk!)

Koyanisqaatsi!
Koyanisqaatsi!
Koyanisqaatsi!

And how's this for a Degree of Bacon (Grado de Tocino) to bring the whole
business full circle (para traer al negocio entero completo el circulo)?
Check http://www.erols.com/fiction-net/pix_bob_and_keneally.htm. On the
left, there, massaging his eyeball with the vocal microphone and evidently
receiving great satisfaction from it is my worthless little brother Bob,
Fiction frontman who once posted something funny on Chalkhills. And over
there on the right, doing a pretty bang-up Yazbek impression, is Steve Vai's
Mike Keneally.

Harrison "polyglot, drunken sot, bet you have to pee a lot" Sherwood

Pee Est: From the Q&A portion of Keneally's website:

Q:4. Does Scott Thunes have his own website yet? What is he doing now?

A: No website to my knowledge (you might try searching "Thunes" [it doesn't
get you anything--HS]), and he's currently playing with Lee Ving's band
Fear.  He's done work with Lee on and off for a few years, so I guess
they've finally made their association official. Scott lives up in Marin
County now, we've lost contact.

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Message-Id: <s5e28fc1.007@phjw.com>
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 10:15:52 -0700
From: "MARK G. CUEVAS" <MGCUEVAS@phjw.com>
Subject: The Sugarplastic and Jason Falkner

Just a quick heads up for you in the L.A. area.  On Friday, August 28,
*Jason Falkner* will be playing at The Gig, 11637 W. Pico Blvd., in W. L.A.
He is scheduled to begin at 11:00p and is preceeded by a number of
other artists.

*The Sugarplastic* are performing at Jack's Sugar Shack, 1707 N. Vine
St., Hollywood, on Sunday, August 30.  They too begin at 11:00p and are
preceeded by other artists.

Lastly, I'm happy to report that Randy Christopher and Co. (The Mind
Reels) performed admirably at Luna Park in W. Hollywood the other night.
Good stuff.

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