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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 3, Number 165

                Monday, 22 September 1997

Today's Topics:

               the power of the internet ?
                Ah yes I knew I would.....
                we're an American band...
             Crash Test Dummies and the Cure
                    I'm Mandy, Fly Me!
                 Eleven different animals
                   Manzanera info etc.
            Chalkhills' Children 96 Favorites?
                 Books Are Burning Solos
                      Todd Faithful
           Crash Dummies or MORE THINGS I HATE!
                   Re: Tears for Fears
                       Re: Joe Boyd
                     I've had my Phil
                  (Who will be leader?)
           Upsy Daisy Review (and webpage plug)
                 Re: American Influences
            Not The Partridge Report: 9-21-97
                  Marilyn, Moose and 801
       Those rackin' frackin' stinking newspapers.
                ATTENTION ALL TRADEES.....
                 Chat with live XTC fans!


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Message-ID: <31510B652669CF11BA1D00805F38219E02FF158B@DUB-04-MSG>
From: Peter Fitzpatrick <>
Subject: the power of the internet ?
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 05:36:24 -0700

Here's a newsclip reproduced without permission, I have edited to keep
it short.

Kinda makes you think huh ???


  Marillion, the U.K.-based rock band whose rabid fanbase ("The Freaks")
raised approximately $50,000 over the summer for tour support, are
paying their fans back by giving each and every fan who donated money an
autographed, limited- edition CD recording of one of their live shows.
The band will decide at the end of the tour which show will be used for
the CD.

  "We were just amazed," says Marillion's singer/ guitarist Steve
Hogarth. "In a way, it's the first real tangible example of where the
Internet made such a major difference. People talk about the potential
and future  of the Internet; now they can point their finger here and
say, 'Look at this incredible story.'"

  When Marillion informed their fans via the Freaks online mailing list
that they just couldn't afford to tour the U.S. ("Because of our
production, we end up losing $30,000 and we really couldn't afford to do
it this time," says Hogarth), their fans began soliciting donations from
the Internet. A few thousand people donated money, with donations
averaging $24-$50 a person and one whopping $1,300 donation from a
British fan. This allowed the band to embark on a North American tour on
Aug. 25. It wraps up Sept. 27.

  "It's really about the sort of music we play. It's not for the casual
listener. It's more demanding and those that do get into it are very
passionate about it," says Hogarth. "In a way, it's like the Grateful
Dead fans. It's more of a community."




Message-Id: <>
From: "Kevin Keeler" <>
Subject: Ah yes I knew I would.....
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:21:57 -0400

Forgot something in my last post regarding my demo request.  I have
virtually any Radiohead you could even want and a bit of Ben Folds Five if
that entices anyine the more...e-mail me.
	all this talkin anout the songs isnt macking my not having them any

Simon: you lucky bitch.  sorry, didnt mean to be profane.  you lucky, lucky

In regards to the Crash Test Dummies version of PP, I'm a bit mixed.  The
female voice interesting variation.  I dont know if i like it
better or worse than I would Brad's, but his can be a massive
sleep-catalyst.  The feeling does seem to be there too, butin a different
sort of way.   More *respectful* somehow.  that word just popped in to my
head right at that moment, so i havent decided if its exactly what i mean.
unfortunately, the entire "country" (as someone described it) feel to the
song turns me off.  The intro to tthe original (where those drums kick in)
always pleases me.  ah sizzut.  now i have to go return an over-due movie.

	more later, perhaps.
!                    Kevin Keeler                        !
!            !
!      ***Official Member, A.. A..***          !
!               |\  |     / '''''\                                 !
!               |  \|     \__/                                 !


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 15:53:34 -0400
From: "Jeffrey Langr" <Jeffrey.Langr@MCI.Com>
Subject: we're an American band...

Ed Miller wrote:
>Then we tried to figure out why American bands seemed more restricted.
>One thing we came up with is that Americans must have fewer, true
>influences.  We figured that, when you boil it all down, American
>influences must be limited folk, blues and country music.  Everything
>else we can attribute to our English pals.

You forgot the one true American invention, jazz. (I read somewhere that
the only three true American art forms were jazz, the comic book, and I
think the third one was the blues.)  Not to mention that "folk, blues,
and country music" pretty much forms the basis for rock & roll...

Attribute everything else to our English pals?  I think it goes both
ways.  Don't forget that the Beatles, who XTC owes a bunch to (there's
your obligatory XTC content), derived most of their sound from American
artists such as Buddy Holly, Elvis, Carl Perkins, Little Richard, Chuck
Berry, and the Everly Brothers.  Don't forget to add in Motown and Phil
Spector's girl groups.

There's lots of non-American & non-British influences, too, such as
African music, and Jamaican/reggae music, which punk derived a lot
from.  Everything feeds from everything, anyway... there are truly few
innovative people out there.  If you want non-restricted American music,
there's plenty of original stuff like Pere Ubu or Tom Waits out there.

Now, my point being made that personally I think American music is more
influential than British -- and to be honest, does it really matter --
American music suffers from the difficulty for new and different things
to make its way up the charts.  To succeed here, you have to sound too
much like someone else...

Jeff L.


From: "The Great Lemur" <>
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:05:44 CST
Subject: Crash Test Dummies and the Cure
Message-ID: <>

I forgot about the Crash Test Dummies' version of "Peter Pumpkinhead"
and now i can't figure out which i despise more...CTD's version of
"peter Pumpkinhead" or CTD's version of "all you pretty girls" both
excellent XTC songs by themselves, they just don't make good CTD
songs... bottom line.

NOw I do think that The Cure would make some wonderful XTC covers...
for example.. picture a "Lullaby-esque" version of " Wrapped in Grey"
 or a "friday I'm in love-esque" version of "You're a Good man albert
brown (curse you red barrel)"

or better still.. James

                -the great Lemur


Message-Id: <>
Subject: I'm Mandy, Fly Me!
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 16:09:57 -0700

"I'm Mandy, Fly Me!" is an old 10cc song!

>We figured that, when you boil it all down, American influences
>must be limited folk, blues and country music.

...and jazz.  Compared to what the Brits were being exposed to,
I think we have them beat on the diverse influence front.

>Dave, in all his majesterial glory, reading a book entitled,
>"Let's Get Laid".  Yes, Dave. Let's.

Some women are born into greatness
and some women have greatness thrust into them.

>Carrie Ross
>Lets Build A House
...with a Den

>Gary Minns
>...Peter merely said: any kind of love is alright...
...and was promptly crucified.

No bonin' with the boss.

Cheers, Richard "I just couldn't resist" Pedretti-Allen


Message-ID: <>
From: "Rob Crawford" <>
Subject: Eleven different animals
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 17:46:41 PDT

Sorry if this a bit long and rambling but it's 1:30 in the morning and
I'm still in work and I wish to clarify my point of view.

Earlier this was written

>Rob Crawford raised an interesting point,,, so interesting that I am
>now un-lurking after some time...Nice one Rob

Aw shucks <blush>

>The idea "let the boys put some banal tripe out so we can enjoy the
>good stuff" requires some analysis. On it Andy compares record >company
types to people asking Leonardo Da Vinci shortly after he's >painted the
roof of the Cistene (sp?) chapel "Yup, that's OK, that >works for us,
what else do you do"?

2/10 for art history (BTW my normal score)

30 page discussion document on renaissance man on my desk by Monday
(what do you mean you didn't receive this document till Tuesday)

While I don't want them to prodruce crap I also don't want them to be
poor, get too pi**ed off or bitter.

Though the thought of them doing a fleetwood mac is too horrible to even

It's more a case that WE ALL HAVE TO SELL OUT TO SOME EXTENT to provide
for our familys and I don't think that we as XTC enthusiasts should
expect AP DG & CM not make similar comprises to provide some security
for themselves (and their familys).

When I read an interview with AP around the time O&L was released it
mentioned that he had pounds 400 in the bank and the video recorder
wasn't working because the rabbit had eaten through a lead. I was
utterly depressed (even though I was only earning that a month), this
was one of my heros, and he's as poor as I am.

After that I met another one of my heros John Otway before one of his
gigs and had to buy him a beer as he couldn't afford one (he appeared on
the Jesticles single with AP), and he mentioned that AP was in a pretty
bad financial state too.

I don't expect that level of commitment of anybody that I know
(including myself (I have a wife, 2 kids and a bank manager to
support)), so why should I expect anything from our heroic trio.

They need to finance their projects, and they need their 1st release to
be a real success, to repay any loans, and also finance future
recordings, if they have to produce somthing out of character to do so
then that's fine with me because:

1: I don't want this to be the last album they produce no matter how
good it is.

2: Stop them from having to sign to another major label if things don't
go as we hope they should.

3: It will still be better than 95% of what's being released anyway

4: Possibly entice some more people away from banal pap they are being
force fed.

5: See more live TV appearences to successful sales.

6: Give them a footing to give other bands a chance on their label.

Don't get me wrong:

I am really glad that XTC havn't sold out, because along with The Church
it's a shelter from the crap which one hears on radio & TV.


As for strange thoughts, we could do a bit more than talk about them and
at one stage I even thought that between us we could put a PC (or 3)
together (out of spares) for them, and along with some decent MIDI
software, (& perhaps an internet account somewhere <grin>).

After all if they seem to mean so much to us we can do a bit more than
buy a 14 UK pounds CD every 2-3 years which they only get a small
fraction of. Even with their own company after the retailers,
distributers, management and tax man get their cut there may still not a
lot to go around.

(Yeah I know defective brain waves but on sleepless nights one thinks
strange thoughts)

Then perhaps AP could then manage some decent drum tracks for his


I also hope that the some of the energy and entheusiasm that apeared in
Black Sea & D&W will turn up with an upturn in AP's social life.


>> Could someone please have a go at transcribing "Wait till your
>> boat ...", and I will be very grateful.

>the band already did this in the Eleven Different Animals songbook;
>the only XTC music & lyrics book that was ever printed.

>now. I'm sure there must be someone out there who is willing to xerox
>the relevant pages for you. I would if I had a copy... any offers?

I actually have the book, as I was learning to play guitar at the time
it came out (never learned though).

The problem with photocopying it is that the text all music is in purple
ink that dosn't photocopy at all well.

I have been trying to get it scanned in work and distilled into a PDF so
I can U/L it but no joy at all.

The book also contains the chords which they (well DG most likely) made
up to allow 1 guitarist to recreate what was recorded (as both DG & AP
could be playing completely different chords at the same time).

Before any offers are made the book is in real bad condition as it
really was heavily used by several people I knew who could play guitar
well (and they couldn't play some of the chords either).

One thing I wish thay had done was to transcribe the lead lines into
guitar tab, as I love the "solo" in Are you receiving me and the intro
to Towers of London.

Missed opportunitys:


Personally I don't see why Runaways was not released as a single as it
was catchy enough to produce a hit (it was chosen as the 1st song on a
double album so everybody knew it was a strong track), and at the time
in the UK Lloyd Cole and assorted others where enjoying success with  12
stringy sounds.


Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:02:55 -0700
Message-Id: <>
From: studio seventeen productions <>
Subject: Manzanera info etc.

OK OK I was at work (with the stupid address, which is now gone) and of
course senility strikes the unwary....

Of course all of you are right , I meant it's ON DIAMOND HEAD (speaking of
Miss Shapiro).

ha ha

dave at studio seventeen


Message-Id: <>
Subject: Chalkhills' Children 96 Favorites?
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 18:03:41 -0700

Hey Chalksicles!

First of all, I am NOT fishing for compliments here!

I would like to get a few forms of critique (no, you won't get a CD no
matter how much you rave about my job or cover, so just tell me the

1) What did you like or dislike about the recording production,
packaging, shippping, etc. of this particular project, aside from the
songs themselves?

2) Which three songs did you like the best?  (I will compile and post
the results)

3) Which songs do you feel or the most "professional" sounding and
radio-worthy?  (I will compile and post the results)

Thanks for reading  (...that doesn't sound right...)

Cheers, Richard


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 19 Sep 1997 23:16:08 -0400
From: richard leighton <>
Subject: Books Are Burning Solos

To Dave Stafford and his thoughts on Books Are Burning outro solos I say
AMEN Dave,


Message-Id: <>
From: "Bill Curran" <>
Subject: Todd Faithful
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 00:22:27 -0400

I was sifting through my old vinyl collection (many old gems including
Roderick Falconer's "New Nation" and the Hollies' "Romany") and I came
across a Todd Rundgren elpee titled "Faithful". Every song is an
unabashed near note perfect cover of a well known tune. The one that
has a place in the Hills of Chalk is the cover of Brian Wilson's "Good
Vibration". I don't think anyone had ever been able to so exactly copy
what Brian had done in the studio up until that time. Knowing that Andy

loves the harmonies of the Boys of the Beach, I think that Andy would
have selected Todd more for this kind of studio work that Todd's own
The Faithful Album was made in 1976 on Bearsville, featuring Todd,
Roger Powell, John Seigler and John Wilcox. They also cover L&M's
"Rain" and "Strawberry Fields Forever" (even though the best cover of
SFF was done by Peter Gabriel on "All This and Word War, Too")

Bill Curran                               MVS Sysprog


Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 14:47:57 +0700 (WIB)
Message-Id: <>
From: todzilla <>
Subject: Crash Dummies or MORE THINGS I HATE!

When I heard the Crash Test Dummies singing in Dumber and Dumber I almost
puked.  I mean, what is the FUCKING deal here?

Of course, what was *I* doing in that movie, you may well ask. I took my
nephew, that's my only excuse. I did laugh two times out loud, I confess.
But I digress....

But, this is what IRKS me about the current situation in the scene....You
have a version BY the acutual group who friggin WROTE the song and PLAY IT
AS WELL AS IT CAN BE PLAYED, a group that has busted it's ASS for years in a
business that operates on whims, fashion, and idiocy. BUT, they aren't the
gets done up in a rather bland, less soulful way and served up. And guess
Crash Test Dummies. If there is a god, why does he let bands name themselves?

I bet they (the public at large) would love the original as well...maybe
more if you lied and told them XTC was a new group from Seattle with really
nice butts.

My point? Why wasn't the ORIGINAL AND NOT EVEN THAT OLD version on the dang
soundtrack to the dumbass movie?

I just hope Andy got some money out of the deal that he can pay to his
ex-wife so she can buy some new shoes.


Just to prove it, here are more things I hate:

MTV disc jokeys that try SO HARD to be SO ENDEARING and cute, yet are in
fact brain dead

Hanson (hold it, that's too easy--let's change that to The Queen Mother)

TV commericals for exercise equipment

But, let's end on a positive note...some current faves. Music that makes me
believe in God, or someone who dresses like it.

Bill Evans--Everybody Digs Bill Evans
John Coltrane-- Giant Steps
Turtle's -- You Showed Me
Every Brothers Box Set
New Demos (THANKS he who shall remain nameless)

OK, salamat malam

East Bogor


Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 09:59:12 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: Tears for Fears

>I've already read the XTC FAQ's and realised that Curt Smith and
>Roland Orzabal, from TFF, made the train noises for the "Big Express" song
>"Train running low on soul coal". Have they done any other studio work for
>XTC, like background vocals, guitars or something?

  Yeah, they wrote and performed every damn note of "King For A Day." :-) The
first time I heard it, I assumed it was from the new TFF album. If anything,
that's the closest thing to the readymade hit single Andy's mom was referring
to. Didn't make it in the States, though.


Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 09:59:43 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: Joe Boyd

> For the album "Fables of the Reconstruction of
>the Fables of the Reconstruction of the............."  Sorry.   Joe Boyd of
>the band Fairport Convention produced that.  I like the sound, more

  Actually, Joe Boyd was the PRODUCER of Fairport Convention, and most of
Fairport guitarist/songwriter Richard Thompson's solo work up until the
mid-80's, when Mitchell Froom took over as RT's right hand man. That aside, I
never thought of this before, but Boyd would be both a brilliant and
inexpensive choice as producer of XTC, and would be sympathetic to the more
mature and layered sound they seem to be going for lately. I don't think
Boyd's doing much besides managing his Hannibal record label, which hasn't
been releasing much lately.
  BTW Amanda, I missed your shoot-from-the-hip missives over the summer; a
belated welcome back! If you don't recognise the E-mail address, I was I lost my UVM account over the summer, so I'm making do
with AOL for the time being, when I'm not sifting through all the junk E-mail
I get, I keep up with Chalkhills! Trouble is, the digests are so big they're
saved as a text attachment, so I have to translate them into something that
can read something that big. Sigh. Anyway, Amanda, stay away from those
married guys! You'll just break his heart, not to mention his wife's. It's
not worth it. Work with him, even flirt with him a bit, but remember who's
waiting for him at home! I should know, I'm married myself, and I have a hard
enough time learning how to relate to women I might otherwise be interested
in when I was single. It's a whole new ballgame; when I find myself feeling
the slightest interest in a woman between 18 and 50, I automatically question
my motives. As for under 18, let's just say I have to remind myself I'm not a
high school kid anymore...


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 07:45:35 -0700
From: Wesley Hanks <>
Subject: I've had my Phil

Thanks for clearing up my Phil Manzanara/801 question. The consensus is
(1) that "Limbourg" is a readily available bootleg, which this gentle
listener hadn't heard before, and (2) "Miss Shapiro" is in fact the
studio version from Phil's "Diamond Head" LP, definitely not "live".

Now if you could kindly direct me to the line to kiss Simon's ring. ;^)

Non-XTC song of the day: "Spinning Away" - Eno/Cale
XTC song of the day: "Heaven is Paved With Broken Glass"

Your latest best friend,


Message-Id: <v01540b00b04980402cbf@[]>
Date: Sat, 20 Sep 1997 15:07:11 +0100
From: (Peter McCulloch)
Subject: (Who will be leader?)

From: Carrie Ross <>

>Way back in the in early 80's I heard a song that sounded like XTC
>(on WLIR for those of you in the NY area), and I'm pretty sure the
>words went something like, "Lets build a house. Make it out of

I think you might be referring to an XTC demo called, "Let's Make a Den",
with the similiar lyrics, "Let's make a den, make it out of hay", which
found it's way on the B-side of The Meeting Place UK 12" single. This would
have been no earlier than 1986, however. At any rate, If you want a copy of
it, e-mail me privately.

Hitchcock/Faulkner fans: The Spring 1997 issue #54 of the music paper, The
Bob, features interviews with Robyn Hitchcock and Jason Faulkner along with
a free flexi-disc containing Hitchcock's "Alright, Yeah" and an
unreleased(?) Faulkner song, "All God's Creatures". The paper can be found
nationally at Tower Records for $2.95 or you can order it for $4.00 ppd
nationally/$6.00 internationally by calling (302)477-1248. I think you'll
have less respect for Jellyfish after you read the Faulkner article.



Message-ID: <>
Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 08:16:31 -0400
From: Tim Kendrick <>
Subject: Upsy Daisy Review (and webpage plug)

Hi everyone!

Found a review of "Upsy Daisy" that
I haven't seen anyone else post yet.
It's from "In Newsweekly" dated Sept. 14,
(Vol. 7, issue 03), a gay/lesbian publication
based in Springfield, MA, USA.


   "So, you've been meaning to buy an XTC record but 20 years
   have slipped by and you haven't been able to decide?
   Waffle no more.  UPSY DAISY ASSORTMENT recaps the last two
   decades by the thinking fan's pop band.  Subtitled "The Sweetest
   Hits", the new disc contains 19 tunes from the 11-record XTC
   discography, skipping "White Music", "Go 2" and "Rag and Bone
   Buffet".  Born at the height of the London punk explosion in
   1977, XTC has followed its own path.  While the punks bashed
   heads with their message, XTC used wordplay, imagery and pop
   hooks (Beatles-like at times) to make their points.  Then there
   was singer-songwriter Andy Partridge's hatred of touring.  The
   band quit in the early-1980's, performing only on a 1989 radio
   station tour and an appearance on "Late Night With David Letterman".
   Along the way, XTC has proved a durable source of social
   commentary ("Respectable Street", "The Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead")
   and sweet love songs ("Grass", "The Mayor of Simpleton").
   UPSY DAISY ASSORTMENT provides an eclectic overview the casual fan
   or experimental listener will find satisfactory.  More appreciative
   fans probably would go deeper into the rich menu for a
   greatest-hits collection."
                      -James Reindl

I have a new email address and
(finally) my own personal webpage.
Not much there yet, but please visit.


     Tim K.


Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 08:44:20 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Re: American Influences

>One thing we came up with is that Americans must have fewer, true
>influences.  We figured that, when you boil it all down, American
>influences must be limited folk, blues and country music.  Everything
>else we can attribute to our English pals.
>Any ideas on this?

  I wouldn't say must be, but thre's probably some truth to it. Rock and roll
is indigenous to the American south, though you could factor in western
cowboy ballads a tiny bit, so anybody who wants to play rock and roll can't
avoid looking to Memphis or some out of the way Mississippi juke joint for
inspiration at least indirectly. It all goes back to the likes of Sam
Phillips and Blind lemon Jefferson. When rock and roll turned into Frankie
Avalon and Fabian and those awful Elvis movies in the early '60's(though that
period did give us the Beach Boys, Motown and The Four Seasons), along came
these limey upstarts from across the pond to bring it all back to the Chuck
Berry and Muddy Waters roots. Perhaps all those garage punk bands from the
hinterlands would have happened anyway without the "British Invasion,"
though. After all, The Beach Boys were already plundering Chuck Berry riffs
even before anybody Stateside knew who the Beatles were.


Date: Sun, 21 Sep 1997 17:11:03 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id: <v03007801b04b023b13ac@[]>
From: Mitch Friedman <>
Subject: Not The Partridge Report: 9-21-97

Dearest Hillwilliams,

First of all, congratulations to Simon on receiving him and passing on
the news. I didn't even know a lot of that stuff!

More importantly though, Happy Birthday to Lord Cornelius Plum (and
believe it or not, me too!)

This will probably be my very last post from San Francisco because
this coming Sunday Sept. 28th I am cranking the ignition and
driving/moving back to my native New York (City). My email address
will remain the same but I most probably won't be checking it (after
the 27th) until mid-October or later (namely when I get a place of my
own to live). I will sadly miss the beautiful Bay Area but mostly the
great people I've met and had the pleasure of spending time with
namely Becki di Gregorio, John Relph, Dean Martucci, John Wedemeyer,
Eric Day, etc. etc. xtc. All you east coast Hilldwellers should get
prepared to meet me in person some day soon. This is not a threat but
a promise!

Oh yeah! One thing that may interest you is that Andy has not yet
heard TMBG's "XTC vs. Adam Ant" but will be hearing it within the next
few days. He mentioned that he's really not fond of TMBG's "John
Henry" album eventhough Paul Fox produced it so don't be surprised if
"XTC vs. Adam Ant" rates even lower on the enjoyment scale.  He also
mentioned that David Yazbek's new album has a decidedly less
electronic production than the last one and the songs are just as good
so keep an eye and ear out for it. And finally Idea Records is just
about set with a logo which would be a Roman column in the shape of
the letter "I" with a lit lightbulb hovering above it.

Eastward Ho!


Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 13:48:54 +1200 (NZST)
Message-Id: <v01540b08b04c27ddea62@[]>
From: (James Dignan)
Subject: Marilyn, Moose and 801

>>Marilyn Manson (The novelty has worn off)

>"Mr. Manson, I saw your show the *first* time. Back when it was called
>Ozzy Osbourne."

Osbourne schmosbourne... some of us are old enough to remember it when it
was called Alice Cooper!

>i too love it when chalkhillers share their long time musical favorites or
>new discoveries.

The seahorses: Do it yourself
Ocean Colour Scene: Moseley shoals
Moose: Honeybee
The Wannadies: Bagsy me
*Cynthia Should: Mutton

All should appeal to XTC fans in one way or another (* ob NZ music plug!)

and an old rediscovery: that both the Jam and Madness owe a lot to the
Kinks, too.

Oh, and Dave ("it's an ill omen when your goldfish commits suicide")
Stafford of the amazingly long email address gave lots of info about the
801 tracks (even though Miss Shapiro is, along with the hilarious "Big
Day", on "Diamond Head"), and mentioned that Quiet Sun's album was "HIGHLY
RECOMMENDED (but strange)." I think the best indication of this strangeness
is probably the track title "Mummy was an asteroid, Daddy was a small
non-stick kitchen utensil". Another note for the curious is that if it
wasn't for 801, there might never have been a Crowded House. Phil Manzanera
was very supportive to the early incarnations of Split Enz, producing their
second album after seeing them on their first, disastrous, English tour.
Several members of the band joined the extended 801 line-up of "Listen
Now!". Both Finn brothers and Enzer Eddie Raynor also appeared on Phil
Manzanera's K-Scope album. and one final note:

>"Mainstream" is available wherever import CD can be purchased.

...unless of course, you live several thousand miles from civilisation like
me :(



Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 10:39:38 +0200
Subject: Rockpalast

Just a little note to remind us Europeans that the WDR will repeat the
Rockpalast TV concert on the 27th (well, actually the 28th). WDR has a
channel on the Astra satellite, so get friendly with neighbors that have

VCR greetings,



Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:00:52 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Those rackin' frackin' stinking newspapers.
Message-id: <>

Yesterday (Sunday) I woke up and grabbed my paper, turning right to
the birthday section. I figured since both Andy and Colin's birthdays
had been mentioned in the paper that Dave's would too. Well,
NOTHING!!!!  Not a darn word!!!!  All day at work I huffed around like
a mad dog. Stupid Louisiana newspapers.

Why didn't Brad sing Peter Pumpkinhead? I think he said somethig about
giving Ellen a chance. Twas a shame, she ruined the song. At first I
couldn't tell whether it was a guy or girl singing. (Sorry Ben.)

Tis all for now.

A belated happy 45th birthday to YouKnowWho. (Doesn't look a day over 40 ;)

Daemon est deus inversus

XTC song of the day-Church of Women
non XTC-A Worm's Life-CTD


Message-Id: <>
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 14:14:43 +0000
Subject: drummers

Having heard the demos I wonder if anyone has views as who could occupy the
stool best ?.

As for producer I wonder who would want to get involved with such a prickly
individual as AP ? Terry Gilliam is my best fit

Good Rock Reads
Love is the drug by John Aizlewood

It is consists of 15 people writing about the favourite band back in their
teenage years and it is good because of the approach and the choice of bands
(from John Martyn to the Bay City Rollers).

The views expressed are of the individual, and do not
necessarily reflect the views of The United Bank of Kuwait PLC.


Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 09:47:02 -0600 (CST)
Message-id: <>

No money is needed for whatever you ask for. If you don't have anything to
trade, don't worry about it! I'm a nice gal, I'll send it all free.

Ps-Uh Steve. So when am I going to get those tapes you said you would send
me WAY before summer? (I don't want everyone who's name is Steve to email me
on this one. You know who you are......)

Ciao again,
Daddy's Girl


From: "JH 3" <>
Subject: Chat with live XTC fans!
Date: Mon, 22 Sep 1997 11:45:56 -0500
Message-ID: <>

After two weeks, the response to #Buzzcity has been surprisingly good
-- despite my having only posted once or twice about it, a significant
number of people have been using it, or at least checking it on a
semi-regular basis.

As of now it looks like the most popular time (during the week at
least) is 3-5 PM US Eastern (that's 2-4 central, noon-2 Pacific, 8-10
PM GMT, and 8-10 AM in New Zealand). Other than that it's been fairly
random, though Saturday afternoons in the US (which are Saturday
evenings in Europe) seem to be more popular than Sunday afternoons.

In case you missed it earlier: The server name is,
though will work also. If your IRC program needs a
port number, it's 6667, which should be the default number for most IRC

I've installed a "bot" on the channel named @Nigel to monitor usage.
For those of you not familiar with IRC, bots are simply programs that
"live" in chat rooms and do various housekeeping chores, like monitor
who logs on, or impose 30-minute bans on people who use too many
obscenities. Eventually I'd like to develop a second, more intelligent
bot -- sort of like a "virtual" XTC fan -- that could host trivia
contests, listening parties, and various complicated games
automatically, but that's a ways off I'm afraid.

If you use Windows 95, and you use Internet Explorer 3.0 or higher to
browse the web, you can go to to join the chat using
Microsoft's MSChat ActiveX control. I believe this is the same control
Rifff uses, so if you used Rifff's chat page successfully in the past,
you should be able to use this page as well. I hope to get the control
working via JavaScript within the next couple of weeks so that Netscape
4.x users running Windows 95 can use this page also. (If any of you
have some JS code to do this already, please e-mail me!) Do note,
however, that if you don't already have this control and download it
from us, you'll probably get some sort of authentication warning.

Finally, I've renamed my own XTC web-site "XTCware" because 1) it's
catchier than "JH3's XTC page," and 2) it's mostly just a front-end for
software files anyway, there isn't much information content. The URL is
still . If you're nice enough to add
a link to it from your site, let me know and I'll add a link back to

That's it for now... Thanks everybody!

--John H. Hedges III


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