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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 3, Number 148

                  Monday, 4 August 1997

Today's Topics:

               Not Producing The New Album
                         Re: DVD
                  We're for our team(s)
                 Skylarking Producer List
               greetings/salutations/kudos
             Re: Don't Take My Coda Todd Away
                 Rabid and Cooking Vinyl
                      All and Sundry
                6 speakers are 4 too many
                   GOF/Telegraph/CV/off
                        Animation
                       DEMO TRACKS
                    Re's and plugs...
                   Early Sophisticates
        Mermaid Smiled, and smiled, and smiled...
   Ira, JH3, PLAYBOY, Harrison's pop, Virgin's plop...
                  nothing in particular
                Power Macs & Miniature Sun
                 Record rage and Pugwash
                    XTC Demos Please!!
            Shocked and stunned(yeah,stunned)
           Capt. Pugwash (is going to help me)
               Captain Pugwash and Blur...

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Message-Id: <199708012154.XAA27799@utrecht.knoware.nl>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Organization: The Little Lighthouse
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 23:03:43 +0000
Subject: Not Producing The New Album

Chalkers,

First of all: Todd-bashing? It has been very very quiet on the Todd
front lately here in Chalkhills country...
Let's try and keep it that way, shall we?
I'll bet you a dime he isn't going to be the producer for the
new XTC album anyway ;)

Then Paul of Oz (hi Paul!) asked about this interesting item:

> XTC:   "This Is Not The New Album"  catalogue number PROCD4396.
> Would seem to be a US promotional item.  They're asking 7 pounds for it.

It is indeed a US promo CD with 3 tracks from Nonsuch ( Peter
Pumpkinhead, Books Are Burning and Rook) in a real pretty cardboard
foldout sleeve with nice "medieval" graphics - not unlike the
styling of the Nonsuch cd itself.
The designs for all the American Nonsuch-related releases were made
by Wendy Sherman who did an excellent job!

BTW: I haven't seen the  "inside" of the sleeve - my copy is still
factory-sealed and I'm not going to open it - nor the disk itself but
my guess is that the cd has silkscreened graphics; just like the
other XTC promo releases from the same period.

Anyway, IMHO the price seems about right if it's in 100% perfect
(sealed) condition, but if you can find it in the US you'd probably
pay less.

yours in grey,

Mark Strijbos
at The Little Lighthouse; the XTC website @ http://utopia.knoware.nl/~mmello
===> The Random XTC Quote <===
Hours swum down, treasure unfound
Air leaving slow, still breathing though

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Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 15:46:08 -0700
Message-Id: <l03102800b007b2f424ec@[206.171.126.243]>
From: Dave Blackburn <dblack@access1.net>
Subject: Re: DVD

Hi all,

Steve Schiavo wrote:
<The neat thing about DVD audio is that it should provide a 96K sampling
rate and 24 bit word length (rather than the 44.1 (?) and 16 on CD)..
Thus, much better sound.  Of course, this will require a new DVD player
(which will also play CDs).  To avoid the problem of having two formats
for retailers to stock, it's being advocated that audio DVDs also include
CD level information (in some of that extra space) Audio engineers,
 please feel free to correct me..>

As I understand it from the trade rags, it is not pinned down yet exactly
how DVD will be used for delivering music. As it can hold so much data, it
would be possible to put out a five hour CD at 16-bit (don't know if  I
could take 5 straight hours of anyone's music-even XTC!) or a one hour CD
at 24-bit resolution or higher. Initially, the point of DVD is to replace
videocassettes, giving movie watchers 16-bit audio with better than
laserdisk video quality. Once people own the players, the marketeers hope
to introduce records on the medium, realizing full well that we have just
bought our LP collections on CD and do not want to go through it all again.
	One drawback with DVD is that any CDs that were mixed to DAT will
remain 16-bit in resolution even after transfer. Those that were mixed to
analog tape (as most of the XTC stuff was) will sound better, as the
masters can be transferred at the highest new bit rate and sampling rate.
There are other radical new audio developments coming down the pike too
which should make the experience of placing yourself between a pair of
speakers for "true stereophonic sound" seem a cute thing of the past. Of
course, it's debateable whether Mr and Ms record consumer will really care:
most people seem delighted with CDs.

Dave Blackburn

Dave Blackburn/Robin Adler; dblack@access1.net

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Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 17:55:37 -0500 (CDT)
From: y9d62@ttacs1.ttu.edu
Subject: We're for our team(s)
Message-id: <Pine.PMDF.3.95.970801172006.566293430A-100000@TTACS.TTU.EDU>

Whomever noticed the XTC-Blur-Respectable Street similarities: I actually
wrote Blur and asked them if they'd ever listened to Black Sea.  I didn't
get a response.  I'm betting they have.

--interesting comments by J.R. on best-ofs.  But most of us probably
won't need to buy it.  And unless it gets some major (accidental?)
exposure, few others are likely to notice it.  It couldn't hurt though,
right?

I think getting AP together with Belew is an intersesting idea.  But I'd
rather see Partridge work with someone who doesn't suffer from
hero-worship.  How about getting him into a studio with John Zorn, or even
Robert Fripp?  Get him in there with Bjork or Tom Waits or Paul Simon or
f**king Van Dyke Parks??  And why did Jeff Buckley have to die?  Get him
in there too.  Get the whole lot of them in a studio and be sure to
blindfold Partridge so he can't find the control booth.  God, I miss new
XTC.

And everyone knows Larry King is a Talking Heads man.

Dominique

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Message-Id: <m0wuRSg-000EBlE@mail.airmail.net>
Subject: Skylarking Producer List
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 97 18:54:08 -0500
From: Della & Steve Schiavo <schiavo@airmail.net>

Hey all -

Didn't Virgin/Geffen give the band a list of possible producers for the
album that became Skylarking?  Anybody know who was on it, other than
Todd?

- Steve

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Message-Id: <199708012358.TAA14790@ultra1.dreamscape.com>
From: "Chris Ellerd" <cellerd@dreamscape.com>
Subject: greetings/salutations/kudos
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:50:24 -0400

I would like to take this time to say hello to the XTC Mailing list. Hello.
I have known and listened to XTC for about 10 years. The first album I
became aware of was "Skylarking". Interesting story about that recording:
when I first bought the tape, "Dear God" wasn't on it. Yet everyone told me
it was. I've heard the story behind that, so I understand (sympathize) why
it wasn't there.
  But there was a song on there that I liked (I like them all) titled
"Mermaid Smiled". Well, years went by, and I misplaced the tape, so I
bought another one. Lo and behold, there was "Dear God" on the tape, but no
"Mermaid Smiled"! Lookit guys, I can't have one without the other, OK?
Question to the band ( or the producer, or whoever it may concern) did you
ever release a version of Skylarking with both songs on it? I'd like to
know.
kudos
Chris

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Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 17:23:18 -0700
Message-Id: <l03102800b007c6fad96c@[206.171.126.204]>
From: Dave Blackburn <dblack@access1.net>
Subject: Re: Don't Take My Coda Todd Away

Hi all,
	Tom Slack wrote, in reference to the coda of Wrapped in Grey,
<Then the coda
came on at the very end of the song, which seemed to me a complete
departure from the feel that had built up, and which just kind of leaves you
hanging. I really wished it had been left off..>

I always felt the coda was a direct tip of the hat to the Beatles. On
Abbey Road, the "and in the end, the love you take, is equal to the
love you make.."  coda goes into a similarly different feel and wraps
the song with a similar quirky little epithet. Not that the two songs
are similar, but the function of the tag/coda works the same, and
knowing Andy's Beatles influence, it may have been a conscious
reference.

Also, regarding the recent posts about Todd. If XTC fans dislike Todd
because he was hard for Andy to work with, the same must be said of
just about every producer XTC has ever had.
	In many ways Todd is the perfect American counterpoint to Andy;
both are iconoclastic, prone to spells of deep artistic genius interspersed
with a few goofy "novelty" tunes, and open to exploration of new production
tools before they become mainstream. Todd's masterpiece (IMHO) is
"Initiation", a 1975 68 min tour de force of gorgeous music, half of which
is an electronic collage using George Martin-esque tape techniques and
analog sequencing (10 years before MIDI sequencing became standard stuff)
and the other half of which features some of his most passionate
songwriting.
	Todd, like XTC (and Joni Mitchell perhaps), has been sidelined by
the mainstream critics for being too eclectic. Their punishment is to
languish in the no-man's-land between small cult following and big
commercial success. The preening rock idol TR tried to be in Utopia *was*
bombastic and shallow but his work goes far far beyond that.
	A recent post said that Todd made Skylarking sound too much like
himself-I must disagree-Of all the albums Todd has produced, this one got
the least amount of the TR treatment, except perhaps in the compressed drum
sound and the ethereal "on the rooftops..." moment in Ballet for a Rainy
Day.

This is Pop, yeah yeah.
Dave Blackburn

Dave Blackburn/Robin Adler; dblack@access1.net

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Message-Id: <199708020429.VAA19634@mailgate31>
Subject: Rabid and Cooking Vinyl
Date: Fri, 1 Aug 97 23:28:53 -0600
From: <aostermann@sprintmail.com>

>This is from "Gallery of Sound"

***snip***
>     Jack Rabid

A ha!!! Good to see ol' Jack at the very least paraphrased here. If there
still aren't any XTC fans who haven't read the great two part Andy
Partridge interview on Jack's fantasic mag "The Big Takeover" (isssues 32
and 33, methinks)  should do their best to grab a back issue. You should
grab it anyway because BT is one of the best mags around today, and its
spordiac releases is more than made up by big chunky issues with lots of
great interviews and reviews. I don't work for them, I'm just a very
satisfied customer...

More info about Cooking Vinyl, the label that allegedly will put the
fruits of XTC's label on the market; besides the folk artists mentioned
last issue, Cooking Vinyl also distrubuted the latest Wedding Present CD
^Saturnalia^ here in the States. If the Weddoes (whose relationship with
major labels have been nearly as cantankerous as our boys) can get their
stuff in the racks (and ^Staurnalia^ did relatively well saleswise,
though not the Weddoes most compellling moment IMHO) then I'm sure XTC
can.

'til next time...

Adam J. Ostermann
(listening to Beach Boys Good Vibrations box set disc 2)

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From: Melsta@aol.com
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:30:29 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <970802003028_-1809496763@emout07.mail.aol.com>
Subject: All and Sundry

Howdy Chalkies!

Fair warning to the impatient:  Have your PgDn key at the ready.

I just found the perfect way to go nuts while trying to work late into the
night.

I set my 5-CD changer to random shuffle with the following records:

1. Martin Newell with Andy Partridge -- Greatest Living Englishman
2. Moxy Fruvous -- you will go to the moon
3. They Might Be Giants -- Flood
4. The Sugarplastic -- Bang, the Earth is Round
5. Various -- A Testimonial Dinner (ever heard of it?)

Let me just say that I did not get sleepy.

It was fun cause I'd heard most of them only once before (Sugarplastic maybe
three times, Testimonial Dinner countless times, though not recently at
all).  The shuffle really helps you hear songs you overlook with a straight
play-through.  For some songs this is good.  For others it isn't
necessarily.  Other records I would have liked to include were Yazbek's
Laughing Man, and Nonsuch. Other suggestions?  I realize I've kind of got 2
different directions going here.  Newell and Dinner go more together, and
I'd like to add Nonsuch to those, while Moxy, Giants, and Sugar all
definitely go together.  I'd put Yazbek in with these.  Jellyfish might go
with the first grouping.

I'm surprised how little I've heard about Moxy on this list.  Just one
comment recently, and that disparaging.  I really like them.  I heard them
being played at Borders and immediately perked up my ears and said "I have
to have this!"  At the risk of gaining a reputation for liking lame stuff,
can anyone help me out here?  I refuse to believe I am alone on this.  (BTW
I like what I've heard [only snippets on the Borders listening station] of
the Spice Girls.  So there.)  (To refresh poor memories and enlighten
newbies, I am the oft-pooh-poohed champion of the likes of Alanis, Ben Folds
Five, Genesis and Queen.  Not exactly the road to instant popularity among
Chalkies.)  (But Hanson I won't even touch.)  (and I liked the Prodigy video
I saw the other day, but I wouldn't know Prefab Sprout if it turned up in my
salad.)

On a different topic altogether (and hopefully with fewer parentheticals,
but don't count on it):

I had to laugh when Cheryl made the earth-shattering confession that she is
a Yank just like me (well, whether she's anything like me I guess remains in
question, but you know what I mean).  The funny thing was that as I was
reading her post, it had just occurred to me that I should be trying to hear
her in my head with a proper British accent, rather than the generic
American accent that plays always in my head. The other funny thing is that
I remember having been surprised earlier when I found out somehow that
Cheryl lived in England.  Most people I don't think about one way or
another, but Cheryl definitely didn't seem English for some reason.  And she
isn't.  And aren't I clever to have noticed that.

Ever try to read with a British (or any other) accent?  I think many of you
would be shocked to hear how you sound in my head.  Like Stephen Hawking
when he first heard himself talking through the
artificial-speech-generating-box and heard that he now talks with an
American accent.  Have they fixed this, or has he had to get used to it?
Could I get any more off-topic than this?  How about that Mars rover?  I saw
the movie Contact and loved it.  Please please PLEASE a new album soon!!  I
can't wait till next year.  Couldn't they put out a little EP before the end
of 1997, a sort of "love-letter" to us fans a la Crimson's Vrooom?

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Message-Id: <v01530502b00881e15b07@[206.15.143.253]>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 00:50:03 -0600
From: stoffel@ziplink.net (Jeff & Elizabeth Stoffel)
Subject: 6 speakers are 4 too many

Hello to all of you.

It's difficult for me to state this without sounding like a snob, but I'll
try.  Surround sound systems have nothing to do with re-creating an actual
performance.  They're fun, economical, and can sound impressive, but they
do not sound musically accurate or realistic.  Live performance is the
ideal.  The next best thing is listening to a recording on equipment that
most accurately simulates a live performance.  Surround sound just does not
fit into that equation.  Invest in a pair of well-designed speakers, with
the components to match, close your eyes, and you'll swear that the boys
are in the room with you.

-Jeff

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Message-ID: <Zhu1dUAZb54zEwE2@emdac.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sat, 2 Aug 1997 21:21:45 +0100
From: Phil Hetherington <phil@emdac.demon.co.uk>
Subject: GOF/Telegraph/CV/off

Has anyone noticed that XTC backwards sounds a bit like 'City X',
which is the branding on the back of my parents' Austin Maestro
which I'm about to acquire? (The shame). Thought not.

Anyway,

>>  Didn't Sara Lee also play for awhile in Gang of Four? I don't have my
>> Trouser Press Guide in front of me here...
>Me neither but she definitely did play in the Gang Of Four for a
>while - i saw her play with them.

She was on 'Songs Of The Free', 'Hard' and, if you count live albums,
'Live: At The Palace'. 1982, 1983 and 1984 respectively, if memory
serves me correctly, which it probably doesn't. If you're interested,
all the details are on my discography which is an offshoot from the
Shriekback page.

>       Re: Idea.     Although I'm sure there are lots of other similar
>examples the only one that I could think of is Telegraph Records.  This
>is the label started up by the three former members of OMD.  They have
>released there own album under the band The Listening Pool and have also
>signed some other bands (China Crisis if I remember correctly was one of
>them).

They've also released some classical CDs, I think. Actually, the
Telegraph name was previously used on the OMD singles 'Genetic
Engineering' and 'Telegraph', as a pseudonym for... Virgin Records.
I suppose when Paul, Mal & Martin left OMD they decided to revive
the name.

On which subject, does anyone have a copy of The Listening Pool's
"Where Do We Go From Here" CD single? Telegraph sent me a mailshot
saying 'look out for this', then after a long silence I wrote to
them to be told they they'd all sold out - any help appreciated.

>Would I
>recommend the cd?  Only if you are in a particularly nostalgic mood as I
>was when I got it.

I'd recommend it - I loved it. :-)

>       Re: Cooking Vinyl.     I own several records on this label
>including The Oyster Band, Malcom's Interview, Rory McLeod.  All of
>these are UK "folk" artists with rock cross-over appeal.  These were all
>bought in Canada so distribution for them here has always been good.

They really started off as a folk label, but have more recently
branched out a bit, signing bands like The Wedding Present (about
whom I know very little).

Personally, I'm more impressed by the fact that XTC will be sharing
a label, or rather a distributor, with Goats Don't Shave and Rev
Hammer. A word of warning though - Cooking Vinyl never seem to have
a clue what their artists are actually doing, they just seem to
leave them to it. This is probably good from an artistic point of
view, but bad if you want to phone them to find something out. Oh
well.

Well, I'm off round Europe for nearly a month; don't do anything
silly while I'm away...

ttfn
--
 _
|_) |_  * |    My web page: http://www.emdac.demon.co.uk/phil/
|   | ) | |    Shriekback web pages: The above + shrkindx.html
===========

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Message-Id: <199708011330.WAA24230@mita1.mita.cc.keio.ac.jp>
Subject: Animation
Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 22:29:25 +0900
From: NAOYUKI ISOGAI <b9400863@mita.cc.keio.ac.jp>

Hello there,

Mitch Friedman (mf@well.com) wrote:

> He (Andy Partridge) also really loves the animation of Czechs Jiri
> Trnka and Jan Svankmajer.
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I LOVE his animation, too!  His short film entitled "MUZNE HRY" and
his long movie called "FAUST" are more than outstanding.  I do think
he is the greatest animator all over the world, as well as Nick Park
who directed the "WALLACE & GROMIT" claymation series.

And as far as animated movies go, I'd also recommend "JASON AND THE
ARGONAUTS" (I assume everyone knows this title).  I read somewhere
that he liked it too.

Rush into the nearest video shop!

Cheers,

---- NaoyuKing, the faculty            "One bright morning the world
     of Economics, KEIO Univ.           might end with a big bang,
                                        and you'll never get yourself
  E-mail:b9400863@mita.cc.keio.ac.jp    another chance..."

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Message-Id: <199708031323.WAA06968@mita1.mita.cc.keio.ac.jp>
Subject: DEMO TRACKS
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 22:23:57 +0900
From: NAOYUKI ISOGAI <b9400863@mita.cc.keio.ac.jp>

Hi Chalkies,

For those who have no access to the Web:

I have an extra copy of the Japanese _DEMO TRACKS_ CD-EP (used),
and I'd be happy to trade it for something.  Please just email me
privately...

And I also have a promo copy of KC's _SCHIZOID MAN_ single CD (UK).
Just let me know if someone wants it.

Cheers,

---- NaoyuKing, the faculty            "One bright morning the world
     of Economics, KEIO Univ.           might end with a big bang,
                                        and you'll never get yourself
  E-mail:b9400863@mita.cc.keio.ac.jp    another chance..."

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Message-ID: <33E4A904.71B3@bhip.infi.net>
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 11:51:54 -0400
From: gregory <mattone@bhip.infi.net>
Organization: InfiNet
Subject: Re's and plugs...

Tschalgkerz!

Hello, out there in SyberSwindon! I just got back from vaykay in
Chicago, and had the best time. I found it to be a much more REAL city
than L.A., and would go back any time (I'd go back to L.A., too,
now...). Never could go to find the guy in the subway who does the XTC
tunes, and never got to the House Of Blues... this is what happens when
the family is along. Oh, well...

Re: The Prodigy - 'The Fat Of The Land' comes nowhere near 'Music For
the Jilted Generation'. But I've only heard it through once, so we'll
see.

Re: Prefab Sprout - *YAWWWWWWWWWNNNNN* smak-smak...

Re: XTC on the radio - I don't listen to the radio a lot (one of the
reasons I listen to stuff like XTC and Oingo Boingo), but I have heard
"The Mayor Of Simpleton" and "The Ballad Of Peter Pumpkinhead" here on
102.5 in the Tampa Bay , Florida area enough times in the limited time I
listen to think that they get a pretty fair shake. How's that?

Re: Flaming - until the lads provide us with some new music (if we're
lucky, by next years' end, I would imagine), nobody has too much else to
do in this list except bitch. I wouldn't let that keep you from sounding
off.
Speaking of new music, someone on this list offered to send me a copy of
the demos that everyone has gone on and on about, and it has never
materialized. Would someone help?

A couple of plugs:
I have two friends who are on albums that I want to tell you all about,
should you ever be looking for something new to listen to:

	The Gary McGill Project - 'Alien Resident-In-Waiting'
	A self-produced album that has really caught me off guard... it is
		a little gem, IMHO.

	The Schugars - a band out of Detroit, making waves from what I
hear... the new bass player, Scott Worst, is an old friend. 				Alas, he
only plays on one song, but he just joined them.

Re: The Mommyheads - I keep looking at this when I run across it in the
store... now I'll have to chack it out.

More later,
-Brian
Eating future and shitting past...

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Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 09:19:38 -0700
Message-Id: <199708031619.JAA25042@barley.adnc.com>
From: studio seventeen productions <ambient@adnc.com>
Subject: Early Sophisticates

Way back in Chalkhill 3-141 Dave Blackburn mentions:

> Incidentally, the guitar voicings in the
>intro and tag of "This is Pop" are deeply sophisticated for a band's first
>album, especially one that came out during a vehement period of
>anti-intellectualism in pop music.

This fact continues to astonish me.  I was recently listening ti Drums &
Wireless, and I noticed two things in particular:

1) It's amazing how the old songs (the ones with Barry) almost seemlessly
fit in with the far more complex later works.  The sequencing of this disc
is very clever-and you don't really notice how different the two bands are
because of it.

2) There are delightful, musical turns in some of these early songs - for
instance, Meccanik Dancing is very punk, very shouty, but then the "can't
wait until the weekend" chorus is pure pop melodicity.

XTC was the only "punk" band in the late 70s that would suddenly throw in
beautiful passages into otherwise fairly dissonant works.  "Drums & Wires"
is as full of such examples.

In some ways, I don't think Andy ever "really" bought into the punk thing-
he was having fun, and also quite apparently was not ashamed to include
melodic material in a supposed punk format.

That's all

dave at studio seventeen

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Message-ID: <33E4B709.13D3@earthlink.net>
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 09:51:21 -0700
From: Wesley Hanks <whanks@earthlink.net>
Subject: Mermaid Smiled, and smiled, and smiled...

Hi friends,
Just finished wading through a few digests as I have been on vacation.
Drove from Las Vegas to Monterey CA. Part of the trip was to be an
official tourist and drive up the coast on Hwy. 1. Just below Ragged
Point and Big Sur, I pulled off to take in one of the most incredible
vistas this 35 year old puppy has ever seen. I had a first release of
Sklarking in the deck and listened to Mermaid Smiled. This song has
always meant a lot to me - a short song with lyrics that address the
subject of renewal and awakening - the moment was as perfect as you can
get this side of heaven. It was a moment that reaffirms WHY WE LOVE
MUSIC AND THAT MUSIC MATTERS IN OUR LIVES! Still shivering.

In the spinner - "Caedmon's Call"

Peace,
Wes

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Message-ID: <33E4BAF6.7A4F@bhip.infi.net>
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 13:08:28 -0400
From: gregory <mattone@bhip.infi.net>
Organization: InfiNet
Subject: Ira, JH3, PLAYBOY, Harrison's pop, Virgin's plop...

Tschalkgerz!

I'm back...

Ira Lieman mentions his visit to the Griffith Obsertory's laser
lightshow and their inclusion of "Senses Working Overtime" in the
show... COOL! However, I used to work as staff artist at the Bishop
Planetarium in Bradenton, Florida, renowned for excellent laser
lightshows, and we did a show once that included "Dear God", along with
other, what might be referred to as 'new wave', music. The planetarium
director at the time is a dyed-in-the-wool atheist, and I'm not
surprised this tune made it into the show.

JH3 shares with us his three failed attempts at turning people on to XTC
music, and this reminds me of an article I read years back in an issue
of PLAYBOY (Article?!? Are you kiddin'?) about how to program a party
tape. In this somewhat tongue-in-cheek article the author advised
finding out what kind of people were going to be present at the party,
and lumped the population into four groups:
	ExTrads (Extroverted Traditionalists) - the kind who get off on
thinking that the same song that they are listening to on the radio is
being listened to by thousands of other people (I do not fall into this
category).
	InTrads (Introverted Traditionalists) - the kind of people who still
listen to bands that have run their course; the kind who dig, like,
mid-period Uriah Heep, man.
	ExAvants (Extroverted Avant-Garde) - the kind who love their new bands
and the fact that nobody else listens to them (XTC?), but immediately
distrust them when they start filling venues (U2 come to mind here).
	InAvants (Introverted Avant-Garde) - all the rest?
Then the idea was to make sure that you put the right kind of music on
the tape in order to become a hero.

I may not have described all these correctly, as I don't have the
article and am trying to recall it all, but if you have access to a
large PLAYBOY backlog, seek out the issue... the article was a hoot (the
cover was royal purple, and the blond gal was seated, leaning on her
bent knee, wearing a red flowing outfit of some sort).

Harrison Sherwood's excellent description of the reasons why "The Mayor
Of Simpleton" is a pop gem makes me wonder how much truth there is in
the line 'Writing about music is like dancing to architecture'... I
thought there were a couple of buildings in Chicago I could have gotten
down in front of under the right circumstances.

Welcome, Matt John.

Quoted: >"the main problem we had with XTC is that they had too much
material"< (Virgin representative)...
Can someone please explain to me why this would really be a problem? I
have a hard time understanding this what-I-think-is-a stupid remark...

Later,
-Brian
Eating future and shitting past...

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Message-Id: <199708031931.MAA07110@mail.eskimo.com>
From: "Matt Keeley" <mrme@eskimo.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 12:30:33 +0000
Subject: nothing in particular

> From: Mark Rushton <rushton@mindspring.com>
> Forgive me, but wasn't Virgin sold to Thorn/EMI back in 1992/93?
> Besides that, I'm under the impression that Richard Branson has spent the
> last ten years or so spending all his time on both Virgin Atlantic (the
> airline) and trying to fly around the world in a balloon.
> If I'm wrong, let me know, but I think the above lyrics are a bit
> misdirected.  Perhaps a song should be made up to villify the
> nameless/faceless suits that really controlled the label.

Actually, you're probably right... it's just that for some reason I
feel the need to assign a face to the Virgin empire, and his seems as
good as any, even though he probably doesn't do much anymore... If
the song were any good, I'd probably make up some garbage about
metaphors or something, but, well, frankly, the song sucks, and I'd
say that there's about a 99.9(bar)% chance you're right...

Anyway, what exactly is a Prophet V?  It comes up in the liners to
English Settlement a lot... am I correct in assuming it's a type of
guitar?

Ah well, that's this world over...

Matt
(who promises that if he ever posts a parody again, it'll actually be
worth something)
     -=>Matt Keeley  mrme@eskimo.com<=-
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Yeah.

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Message-ID: <33E4F221.7AE1@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 14:03:29 -0700
From: Eric Rosen <rimshot3@ix.netcom.com>
Organization: rocketFrom@Bottle.com
Subject: Power Macs & Miniature Sun

Natalie,

Twuz I who first mentioned this delightful fact of life.

Ian D. mentions that it might be some kind of D11th chord.  I agree Ian
that there's no portion of the signature horn piece that might play over
this chord but I think such a chord may immediately precede its entry
hence its triggering of that melody.

Here's a marketing idea for IDEA...

We all know how the record corps prefer a single album rather than a
double while we also know that there's a triple's worth ready to
deliver.  Why not promote the album as a trilogy of single albums to be
released serially over a shorter time horizon than the usual 3 years.
Perhaps, there can be some kind of game or clue about what the next
album will bring.  Maybe each one has some demos on it as  added bonus
tracks and then those demos get fully polished on the succeeding
release.

Or, to play it safer, the first release be full length followed by two
more 25 o'clock length releases.

Just brainstorming.  ANyone else got some novel ideas in this regard?

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Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970803200235.006b2b4c@popmail.dircon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 21:02:35 +0100
From: Simon Sleightholm <nonsuch@dircon.co.uk>
Subject: Record rage and Pugwash

From: "Matt Keeley" <mrme@eskimo.com>

>> Park To Memphis" were fun (but I expect that these are to Sprout fans as
>> "Sgt Rock" is to XTC fans) and "Jordan" didn't alter my pulse even a little.
>I don't know... "Sgt. Rock" always got on my nerves... First time I
>heard it, it was OK, but now there's about a 50/50 shot I skip it.

That's exactly what I was driving at, Matt.  The only Sprout tune  I ever
tapped a foot to was "King Of Rock And Roll" , a track almost guaranteed to
produce groans from full-on Sprout fans -  just look at the blasting it took
when Cheryl mentioned it a while back.  It's become an unwanted signature
tune, like Sgt Rock, Nigel and Peter Pumpkinhead have for XTC; songs which,
when your question about whether someone has heard of XTC elicts the reply,
"oh, yes, they did <insert as applicable> didn't they?" makes you want to
push your thumbs into their eyes while yelling "They've done other songs,
they've done other songs!" repeatedly.  *Tip* If you _do_ try this you are
well within your rights pass full blame on to the backwards guitar work on
Chips From The Chocolate Fireball.

From: Gary Minns <Gary.Minns@benfield.co.uk>

>I agree again.  Those of us brought up in the UK of late 20s, early 30s
>age might recall the children's TV shows Captain Pugwash and Bill & Ben.

Weird shit, man.  You wait _years_ for a Pugwash mention on Chalkhills and
then there's two in the same digest. Heavy.  I'm pleased to see I'm not
alone in my recollections.  Appparently the ship name, The Black Pig, means
something a bit rude too, but I can't see it myself.  I just can't quite
bend far enough.  And wasn't the cabin boy called Roger, as in "Roger The
Cabin Boy"? I have an old Star LC-200 dot matrix printer, and when it faults
it makes a series of eight peeps - exactly like the first eight notes of the
Pugwash theme.

Meet me on the river of time,

Simon
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An XTC resource - "Food for the thinkers..."

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Message-ID: <33E578FF.642C@sprynet.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:38:55 -0700
From: Liane Chan <ArniePie@sprynet.com>
Subject: XTC Demos Please!!

Greetings fellow enlightened XTC fans!

I can definitely sympathize with these 2 posts.

from the last digest:
> I'm jealous as hell!!!
>  Can anyone help in sourcing me a copy of this tape of 'demos' that
>  some of you are rapidly wearing out with repeated plays? Are there any
>  copies floating around the UK? Please get in touch. I'm ready to do
>  almost _any_ sort of deal to just get a listen...
>   <bob_prowse@sw2000.com>
>  I'm already on my knees, next stop, the hospital ER.
>  Bob
from the one before:
>As a Chalkhillian, no I surely don't know a thing or have heard the demos
>but I DEFINATELY WOULD LIKE TO!  Can somebody participate in a trade with
>me.  I've got thousands of cd, tape and video boots, hard to finds of many
>artists.If interested email me privately with artist requests.  $ to buy it
> is ok with me to.
>Howard<audio3@webexpert.net>
>
>>As other Chalkhillians surely know by now, I think the '95 demos are the
>>best stuff Andy has ever written. Almost everyone who has heard them agrees
>>that they are excellent.
>>I have this demo of songs Andy put together in 1995 that a friend passed
>>along to me.  It has about 25-30 songs... <snip> Has anyone heard this tape
>>or any of these songs?
>
>Both sets of demos (the J&TGP demos and the demos recorded between 1992 and
>1995 for inclusion on a new album) have been floating around for quite some
>time now.
>
>>They're fu-kin' great!

I bet they are! I thought I could wait it out for a new XTC album but how
can I sit around waiting for them to settle a record deal, then do all that
other industry junk. I can't!! Any US fans willing to make me a copy of the
demos? I can send tapes and postage money. I probably won't have much to
trade since I only have some import CDs (BBC Radio 1 concert, Explode
Together, neither which I could part with either) and all the regular albums
which I bet all of you have already. So, anyone willing to help me or the
other poor souls without any demos, please contact us (me first!).

arniepie@sprynet.com

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From: gravity@loop.com
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970803234435.00688778@pop.loop.com>
Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:44:37 -0700
Subject: Shocked and stunned(yeah,stunned)

Another report from the Burbank CA Virgin Megastore!
This is starting to become surreal to me.
Today Sunday Aug.3 at around 2:30 pm I happened to be
in Ye Olde Megastore to purchase..well that doesn't matter.
As I opened the door to said Megastore a very familiar sound reached my ears.
Was it?...yes I believe........
It's..Seagulls Screaming blaring over the in store
sound system!
There was more. It was UDA playing at full volume.(Yes the listening
station is still there as well.)
I was in the store straight through till Earn Enough For Us.
I must have looked like an idiot standing in one place,with a grin on my
face listening to this music that I have heard a million times before.
Nobody seemed to notice,but after all this is LA.
I left the store without a purchase,forgetting entirely what I had come for.
I rarely get a chance to hear XTC in a "public" place.
Maybe that's part of the allure for us chalkoholics eh?
Well we'll leave that to the psychiatrists to sort out.
Don't let the loveless one's sell you a world wrapped in grey......
                 pinks up! john murphy

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Date: 04 Aug 97 10:32:00 GMT
From: david.mcguinness@bbc.co.uk (David McGuinness)
Subject: Capt. Pugwash (is going to help me)
Message-Id: <"<00E8E53381821573>00E8E53381821573@GW.BBC"@-SMF->

Hello -

Just to set the record straight.

There was no Master Bates (it was Master Mate).
There was no Seaman Staines.

And the producers of Capt Pugwash have been known to sue people who suggest
in print that there were.

So there.

 -David McGuinness

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Message-Id: <n1341430986.1457@ncldq04.cloud.nt.com>
Date: 4 Aug 1997 10:42:02 +0000
From: "Justin Radford" <Justin.Radford.cnt42887@nt.com>
Subject: Captain Pugwash and Blur...

Hello Chalkhill mates,

In particular, hello to Mr Minns who suggested I added Blur and Cafe Tacuba
to my list of Bands I like, well I do have a few Blur albums, but i've never
heard of Cafe Tacuba. If I listed most of the bands I have in my collection
then that would get a tad tedious.

>..All the characters in Captain Pugwash had oblique sexual references in
>..their names: Seaman Staines, Master Bates and Captain Pugwash himself
>..(plug wash, geddit?).

Unfortunately there never was a Master Bates or a Seaman Staines in Captain
Pugwash i'm afraid....it's one of those things that has become a bit of a TV
Legend.

I'm still waiting for 25 O'clock and Beeswax to arrive from Vinylvendors, I
gave up looking in the UK, how long does it take to ship these things????
Once I get those I can get to work on getting my single collection up to
date....mmmm job for life methinks.

Here's a bit of trivia to go along with all the usual guff that appears on
this list.....when I was driving downthe M4 to Torquay (in Devon) the other
week....my car broke down......just beyond Junction 16, the Junction to
Swindon!!! mmm how Ironic me being a fan of XTC and all.

Thanks,
Justin.

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