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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 3, Number 138

                  Thursday, 3 July 1997

Today's Topics:

            Up The Apples 'N' Pears Guv'nor!!
                         A theme?
  Natalie, Colin, Mastelotto, Lungs, Puns and outbursts!
                  Musings Here and There
                  TrentR covering XTC???
                       perspective
                        Colination
                 Always winter wonderland
                      CC 96 Applause
          My Lungs and the Language Not In Them
             De-lurking, sheetmuzik & XTCTWO
            There is no muscle in our tongues
                     Wrapped in Grey
             What did AP mean when he said...
                 Power Miniature Mac Sun
                    No Thugs in Our UN
              Impotency of Speech in action
                       Singles Club
                    hello from London
                   Sakamoto & Partridge
                      UDA-Nice price
                  Box Set Recommendation

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From: Gary Minns <Gary.Minns@benfield.co.uk>
Subject: Up The Apples 'N' Pears Guv'nor!!
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 17:38:04 +0100

>...and over the P.A. came the familiar strains of "Grass"
>(pronounced "Graahs", for those from the Motherland)...

That would very much depend on which region of "The Motherland"
you come from (unless you mean "The Motherland" as referred to
by Hitler, in which case, I think the pronunciation is different again).

>...Then I heard Colin's voice and thought, "wait, that's not Michael
>Stipe...that's Colin!  Blimey!" (I would have said were I British)...

Once again, only if you come from one certain region.

Now where did I put me jellied eels?!

Ta ta
Gary

Playing in my head: The Stereotypes - Blur

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Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970701195309.00676888@popmail.dircon.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 20:53:09 +0100
From: Simon Sleightholm <nonsuch@dircon.co.uk>
Subject: A theme?

Hi folks,

I've just started work on an XTC Desktop Theme for Windows 95 - this will
eventually expand to a set of system sounds, icons and maybe - if I can sort
out the coding - a screen saver.  So far all I have is a Windows wallpaper
image which I have set up for download on Bungalow.  Check out
http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~nonsuch/theme.htm for the info.

If anyone has any suggestions about icon designs and/or system sounds,
please get in touch.

Thanks,

Simon

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Food for the thinkers...

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Message-ID: <33B992BD.3777@sprintmail.com>
Date: Tue, 01 Jul 1997 16:29:01 -0700
From: Stormy Monday <stormymonday@sprintmail.com>
Subject: Natalie, Colin, Mastelotto, Lungs, Puns and outbursts!

Folxtc,

I spent last week in Detroit, MI.

Chalkhills contributor Natalie Jacobs lives in the area, so we met for
dinner.  I'm convinced that being a decent intelligent person is almost
a pre-requisite for liking XTC.  We browsed "The Original Borders"
bookstore, and I scooped up "Reelin In The Years" which is supposed to
be the definitive biography of Steely Dan.  We also spent some time in a
few of the local record stores.

Mostly we just talked about XTC.  We didn't agree on everything, but we
both love the band.  Natalie mentioned that few songwriters can get away
with using the word "Merely" in a rock song.  I never thought about it,
but when I mentioned it to my girlfriend, she immediately agreed.

***

I'm sure that Andy is not shy about giving Colin ideas regarding bass
parts, but I don't believe that Andy "writes" Colin's parts note for
note.  Besides, his parts are brilliant in his own songs.

> whereas Mastelotto just assembles
> collections of killer sounds and hopes they'll work.

What?  What?  The drums on O&L are great.  Few drummers ever attain the
kind of chops that this guy has.  Drums are one of the most difficult
instruments to play.  They are physically draining, they require intense
concentration and a lot of natural ability.  In my 25 some odd years of
playing music with other musicians, it has always been a challenge
finding competent drummers.  So many people who call themselves drummers
can't find the beat.  They practice for years and years trying to play
like Neal Peart, and they can't find the pocket.  Much as I love Ringo,
this is my only real complaint regarding the Beatles.  Although his
timing was impeccable, Ringo was not always on the beat.  While I
understand that some people my quarrel with Pat's taste, I can't imagine
thinking that he "hopes they'll work".  The man is a player.

> >After 15 years or so of listening to "No language in our lungs" I
> >suddenly realise that "I would have made this instrumental but the words
> >got in the way" can be read as "I would have made this effective but...".
> >I'd always thought this was one of the clumsiest lines in XTC's repertoire,
> >but I've suddenly gained a lot more respect for it!
>
> Huh? That line is the most important part of the song! Without it, what is
> the song other than a hypocritical attack? Andy is telling us that you
> can't communicate using words, and yet here he is using words to tell us
> that. That line admits that even the song in question can't get its meaning
> across to everyone, and really solidifies its argument. Of course, the pun
> helps, but it's not neccesary to appreciate the line...

I've always liked the line in question, but I doubt very much that a pun
exists, let alone an intentional one.
First off, "effective" is not a synonym for "instrumental", it is a
component of it.  One might say, "Dave Gregory's contribution to XTC's
music is instrumental to the success of the band".  By definition, his
contribution must also be effective.  However, if I said that "The horn
parts in 'Here Comes President Kill Again' were effective", it does not
necessarily follow that the horns are instrumental (no pun intended, heh
heh) to the success of that particular track, although they may be.

Secondly, I don't agree that the line is "the most important part of the
song", but that is a debatable point.
It is a great line to be sure, but I take it at face value.  It is a
wonderful song, both musically and lyrically.

But really,

WHEN THE HELL ARE WE GOING TO GET A NEW XTC RECORD TO WRITE ABOUT?  "NO
LANGUAGE IN OUR LUNGS" WAS RECORDED ALMOST 20 YEARS AGO!

Sorry for the outburst, but I'm an addict.  The AP demos are OK, but I
want a full fledged album with Colin's exquisite bass playing and Dave's
brilliant instrumental contributions.  I want CD quality sound, with
printed lyrics and liner notes, not some nth generation cassette.

Xtculater,

Stormy Monday

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Message-ID: <61DAF88638D2D011955900A024DED682AACD@kronos.wustl.edu>
From: Bob Thomas <BobT@cait.wustl.edu>
Subject: Musings Here and There
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 1997 15:59:48 -0500

Dave White mentioned:

>-- I didn't pick up Fossil Fuel -- how was the sound on that?

 I wouldn't know.  I own the limited UK edition with the pumped up
fossil deal, many thanks to the honest and agreeable Steven Reule at
Obsessed With Music, who, once my check had cleared, sent the package at
a price less than the going rate for a used copy of the non-limited
edition at my local store!  However, after reading all the chat about
the fragility of the CD case, I was afraid to open the damn thing.  Its
still in the little plastic baggie thing.  I guess that makes me a
collector, eh?  Limited Edition, original package, never played?  My
brain's a limited edition, too.

And whobody I can't recall said:

>I betcha Andy thought we were a buncha dorks. Read the chat
>transcript. Tell me if you agree.

Have I missed this transcript?  I am really looking forward to it.
Where on the Riff site might the transcript appear?  Or has it made it
to the Chalkhills site? I'm sure Chalkhillers weren't any more dorky
than usual during the chat (punctuation face).

And Mr. Karl F Witter was handing out:

>A BIG WET SSSSSMEEERRRP to Phil, for the Chalkhills tee I
>received a week and day ago! If he was as lazy shipping as I
>am posting we'd all be waiting still. My carrier also thanks
>you; I shall no longer stalk him for it, and the judge has
>stopped the restraining order. I don't know, the size L was
>a bit *bigger* than I thought (as compared to Mitch
>Friedman's smaller-than-anticipated M), but still within
>spec, as we engineers say.

Yes, Phil has done it again.  Another Chalkhills Hall Of Fame moment in
our history.  I now own 3, and my young son owns one.  I plan to take
the time with him to explain in great detail all the symbolism on the
shirt, precisely how he should respond when someone asks about the
shirt, and the entire history of this great community of correspondents.
I hope this won't get him thrown out of school.

BTW, Karl and Mitch aren't doing very much to dispel the
lumbering-ignorant-male-who-can't-do-his-own-clothes-shopping myth we
hear so much about. Read up on cotton fabrics, gents ( ;- )>

Chris Spillios enjoined:

>I suggest to those of you as yet CC '96-less, show tunes aside, to get
>off your collective ass and order this most surprising and enjoyable
>collection.  It's not just for contributors and (obsessive)
completists.

My portion of the ass collective hadn't budged 'til I found Richard's
post later in the digest.  I rotated slightly in my chair to print the
pertinent ordering info, slipped the note into my briefcase and have
carried it around in there ever since.  Each day I think, "now, I'm
going to need an envelope, and a stamp.  I shall write a check in the
designated amount, and address the envelope according to the rules set
down in Richard's note."  I'm back in my chair now.  The note is at my
elbow.  I have a stamp in my briefcase, but I'll have to find an
envelope somewhere.  Perhaps my wife has one at home.  I will ask her
tonight and send the thing out tomorrow. I wonder how many extras
Richard has?  Bet he's waiting patiently for my $5.55 to arrive.  I
should get out of this chair.

Surely Richard Predretti-Allen belongs in the Chalkhills Hall Of Fame as
well.

Fondly,

Bob

Bob Thomas, Center for the Application of Information Technology
Washington University, St. Louis
"If all of my days are numbered, how many more do I have?" -- becki
digregorio

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Message-Id: <v01540b04afdfbf719e3b@[139.80.100.151]>
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:19:25 +0700
From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)
Subject: TrentR covering XTC???

>>Maybe this has been mentioned but wouldn't Trent do a great version of
>>"Complicated Game"?
>I could definitely hear this, or perhaps "Travels in Nihilon". Now if he
>could only be convinced to do "The Loving", that would be REALLY
>interesting.

Nah - get Trent to do Complicated Game, and ask Adrian to get King Crimson
to do Travels in Nihilon!

James

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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 01:12:53 -0500 (CDT)
Message-Id: <l03102801afdfae1b5d19@[146.6.72.31]>
From: jason garcia <h.h.name@mail.utexas.edu>
Subject: perspective

A few questions-

Ya ever think about the Eighties?  Specifically, about how many XTC
albums there were in the Eighties?  Ya ever think about how XTC went
from "English Settlement" to "Skylarking" in the same period between
"Nonsuch" and now?  If you've thought about that, did you remember
that they did a whole Dukes album during that period as well?  Not to
alarm anyone, but WOW it's been a long time.

Yours truly,
Jason

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From: Matt_Kaden/CAM/Lotus@lotus.com
Message-Id: <852564C8.00684C22.00@mta2.lotus.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 15:25:03 -0400
Subject: Colination

Craig Olmstead captured so acutely my own sentiments regarding Colin's bass
playing in the article "Colin don't Invent" found in the Chalkhills Digest,
Volume 3, Number 136. For those of you who might have missed it, look
through the backissues.

For an extreme example, Omnibus would just fade into the "so what?"
category  without Colin's bass. And this is someone playing freely and
whimsically... Oh what the hell. For those of you who missed it, here it is
again.

"I have been most dispiritted lately to be reading that Colin doesn't come
up with those wonderful parts that he plays.  You guys almost had me
going on that one!  I don't believe you.
The thing that has convinced me otherwise is listening to the tail end of
"You're My Drug" by the Dukes.  Once he breaks free of the repetative two
bar phrase that goes through most of the song he shifts to some upper
register stuff that is played by somebody who really knows his instrument
and how to contribute to a song.  Given how fast the Dukes stuff was
recorded and the fluidity with which this stuff was played, there is
pretty much NO WAY that this stuff could have been dictated to him.
This is not a bass player who would sit idly by and have his parts
spoon-fed to him for 20 years.  Get a grip, Chalkers:  Andy Partridge
contributes more than 1/3 to the XTC pie, but Dave Gregory and Colin
Moulding make extremely critical contributions to the stew and steer the
music in different directions.  I'm sure Andy makes suggestions and has
ideas for the bass parts, but I really think that Colin takes the ball
and runs with it - he's too good a player to merely perform canned parts
on less than 20 albums over a 20 year period.
KO"

But then from steve mcallister <steve.mcallister-next@attws.com>
"As a 15 yr bass player, and one who studied/transcribe/researched
Colin M as part of my senior project, I can attest that AP writes
most of his own bass lines.  I came to this conclusion after
listening to Andy's demos as far back as Mummer."

Alright, I want everyone who knows who is playing on the demos to stand up.
My feeling is that the XTC demos are XTC and not ANDY. Please correct me if
I'm wrong.

Personably,
Matt

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From: Martin_Monkman@fincc04.fin.gov.bc.ca
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 13:44:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Always winter wonderland
Message-id: <9706028678.AA867876030@FINSMTP1.FIN.GOV.BC.CA>

Mark Fisher, on the subject of "Winter wonderland" writes:
>An Australian XTC fan dropped by over the weekend _ <snip>
>He pointed out that *Always Winter Never Christmas* is a chapter heading in
>*The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe* by C.S. Lewis.

A clarification:  it isn't a chapter, it's just what the White Queen
has done to Narnia.  There's more details in "Your Dictionary", the
glossary of XTC terms at Simon Sleightholm's Bungalow
(http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~nonsuch/bungalow.htm).

>[Cue long and protracted flame war about whether refering to Lewis's
>well-known religious allegory is conclusive proof that Andy is a closet
>Christian after all.]

I don't know if reading an allegory, and then turning a phrase from
the book into a description of a bad marriage (as Andy has said, he
now realizes what he was writing about), qualifies you as a closet
Christian.

Andy obviously reads a great deal, and then tosses all and sundry into
the lyrical stew.  Yum.

Martin

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Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:14:36 +0400 (EDT)
From: Thomas Slack <tgs@telerama.lm.com>
Subject: CC 96 Applause
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9707021740.A18795-0100000@defender.lm.com>

Howdy Chalksters,

Mitch's post convinced me to "loosen up" and post my appreciation for the
effort put into the CC 96 disc/tape. I was quite impressed upon first
listening at the professionalism displayed by the contributors, and more
importantly, it has grown on me immensely! I honestly feel that each
track is worthy of airplay, and some really should be heard outside our
little community.

Having said that, I would like to list some of my personal favourites -
appreciation of music is such a subjective thing after all, as evidenced
by the completely opposing opinions about the same XTC song on this very
list. (This is why I ignore music critics.) Anyway, my hit list:

Battery Brides - cool keyboards, sort of like Windwood does XTC
Making Plans for Nigel - great guitars, vocals, and arrangement
All of a Sudden - really nice production, instrumentation
It's Nearly Africa - it's nearly better than the original!
Sacrificial Bonfire - I like this version a whole lot
Collideascope - really wierd and great, grows on you
Living in a Haunted Heart - truly inventive arrangement and nice vocals,
treble enhanced and all  :) :( !@#$*&%^? (sorry, personal joke)

I really do like every song on the compilation. I would like to offer a
special congratulations and thanks to Richard P-A, who maintained an air
of complete professionalism about the whole project, and who has been a
pleasure to deal with. Also, thanks to Peter F. for the special pressing!

Kudos,

Tom (mine didn't merit a comment from Andy) Slack

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Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=BTG._Inc.%l=EXCH_SERVER-970702222237Z-26119@exchserver.btg.com>
From: "Sherwood, Harrison" <hsherwood@btg.com>
Subject: My Lungs and the Language Not In Them
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 18:22:37 -0400

Just found this at the Opcode web site (http://www.opcode.com/):

------

Top Story:
The New XTC Digital Sync Box

You may be tempted to have a garage sale after you see Opcode's new
Studio 64 XTC Digital Sync Processor because you won't want your old
gear anymore. And just to get you started, enter theOpcode lava lamp
contest (you can't have a garage sale without a lava lamp).

------

For you non-musos, Opcode makes Pretty Darned Good MIDI and studio gear
and software. The Studio 64 XTC Digital Sync Processor makes
synthesizers and recording devices work together--in sync.

Ho Ho Ho Laughter is the Language of International Harmony and Good
Will.

>Mitch Friedman alerted us:
>
>I for one have
>received absolutely zero reviews, negative or positive.

Well, _I_ got one from several leggy international fashion models who
lurk on Chalkhills. Would you believe a former cooch dancer who thinks
Colin Moulding is cute? An Idaho housefrau who was once scandalized by
"Dear God"? Oh, all right, you got me...it was from my mom. She said I
was flat in the second chorus. She was, as usual, right.

> Could we all loosen
>up a bit and tell each other what tracks we like and why and if someone has
>something negative to say, then do it privately or not at all. We could all
>use a little slap on the back from our friends every now and then.

Mitch, would it help if I said that I caught my four-year-old son
humming "Barum, barum, barum-dubba-dubba-dubba-dubba-dubba-dum..."?
You've got a fan, man! Make that _two,_ actually.

[Attribution lost...sorry!]:
>
>>>After 15 years or so of listening to "No language in our lungs" I
>>>suddenly realise that "I would have made this instrumental but the words
>>>got in the way" can be read as "I would have made this effective but...".
>>>I'd always thought this was one of the clumsiest lines in XTC's repertoire,
>>>but I've suddenly gained a lot more respect for it!

Listening to the song, I could swear he's singing, "I *wrote this out*
as instrumental, but the words got in the way." Am I just mishearing it?
(Wouldn't be the first time.) The mental image I get is of Andy trying
to write an instrumental down on paper that would express the rather
postmodern notion of the uselessness of language, but becoming
frustrated and using language to express the idea. I thought it was a
rather neat circular trope, myself.

Harrison

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Message-ID: <33BAF96F.5894@bhip.infi.net>
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 20:59:58 -0400
From: gregory <mattone@bhip.infi.net>
Organization: InfiNet
Subject: De-lurking, sheetmuzik & XTCTWO

Tzchalkgherz!

Lurking lately, now not:

>Recently I attempted to find XTC sheet music. My attempts were
fruitless. In fact I was told that XTc sheet music is out of print. Does
anyone know where to find any. Please help me!<

Yes, please... if anyone has knowledge of outlets for obscure music
transcriptions (i.e., The Tubes, Oingo Boingo, Bill Nelson, you name
it), give it up!

You know, something has occured to me... I've asked ya'll to go to
http://www.mindmagic.com
for an XTC treasure hunt, and I realized, after having worked on these
projects, that there is at least one other XTC thread that runs
throughout all the titles - can anyone figure it out? It involves a song
from 'Oranges & Lemons'...

-Brian
Eating future and shitting past

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Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970702163341.2bdf0a72@cyber1.servtech.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 16:33:41
From: Chaos Harlequin <harlequin@tmbg.org>
Subject: There is no muscle in our tongues

>Doesn't surprise me... do you think they'd be all that into getting
>back the band that put them into a lawsuit?

To the best of my knowledge, the extent of the relationship between Virgin
and V2 is that both were founded by Richard Branson. They're not part of
the same organization, they're not owned or run by the same people, and
they don't run their businesses the same way.

>I think Boat is the only track that has never been on an album even
>as a bonus track...

Well, not the only track, but it's one of the only pre-1992 studio XTC
songs not available on the Virgin CDs; the others are Goodnight Sucker (not
really a song) and Homo Safari 1-4 (available on the Dear God EP). Of
course, there are several post-92 tracks which haven't made it to an album
(Cherry In Your Tree, The Good Things) plus several covers, which I'm not
including here...

>Kind of like R.E.M. Would YOU buy a Michael Stipe solo album?

"All mumbles, all the time."

>>What's the opera about a crazy clown?
>Ruggero Leoncavallo's "Pagliacci" (1892).

Gee, 100 years before Nonsvch. How convenient. :)

>How about "Into the Atom Age", "This is Pop", "When You're Near Me...",
>"Roads Girdle the Globe"...I guess I could go on. But, hardly a problem
>with me...it's still great music.

I can't think of any other examples of bad XTC bridges right now, though I
know they exist. I've had NLiOL stuck in my head, and it's certainly got a
nice bridge. Speaking of which...

>the more obvious meaning, one that is central to the impact of the song.
>I really can't see how this line is clumsy at all.

Forgetting any discussion of the punnish nature of "instrumental" in this
song (actually, I agree, I don't think there really is a pun...) I agree
completely with this statement. Without this line, Andy's rhetoric seems a
bit empty -- he's here telling us that words can't really express a feeling
or an idea, and using words to do it! The irony of this position would be
completely lost. With "I would have made this instrumental/ but the words
got in the way," Andy lets us know that he sees the futility of expressing
his message this way, but that he'll keep doing it -- what else can he do?
Brilliant, brilliant line. And brilliant, brilliant song.

Josh

/---------------------------Joshua Hall-Bachner---------------------------\
|      harlequin@tmbg.org      http://www.servtech.com/public/particle/   |
| "We all have our idiosyncracies -- maybe thinning hair, or gum disease."|
\---- Kowanko, "Will You Come To?" ------ Thank You, And Goodnight. ------/

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Message-Id: <199707030518.WAA11242@mail.eskimo.com>
From: "Matt Keeley" <mrme@eskimo.com>
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 1997 22:17:41 +0000
Subject: Wrapped in Grey

Hello... nothing much to say, except that I thought I'd share with
you that I've been listening to Wrapped in Grey for 3 hours straight,
and still counting... which breaks my previous record of 2 1/2 hours
with the They Might Be Giants cover of "We've Got a World that
Swings"...  BTW, I think I might even go to 4 hours with WiG.... and
I'm still not sick of it... and I say it's got to be one of the most
beautiful songs ever written, by XTC or anyone... and I think Richard
Branson is lucky I'm not Andy... and Andy probably is too, because
when Virgin recalled the single for it, I probably would have gone
into the Virgin offices with a shotgun, a la Doom.... which is sort
of ironic... going and doing something so violent over such a
beautiful song, but I'd have to say that Wrapped in Grey warrants it
as much as any song I've heard in a while...

BTW, on the parody front, I've yet to write down the Dear Monsieur
Branson one, but I'm also sort of working on a parody of the dub
track "Signal Ad" about Denistry (ahh... there's some uncovered
territory!)... and maybe another one of Segulls Screaming, which I'm
not sure what it's about...  although, as I write them, unless
there's too much public outcry, I'll probably end up posting them,
unless they're unfit for human consumption...

But don't let the loveless ones sell you a world wrapped in grey...

Matt

(And in the very least, you can stand up naked and grin!)
     -=>Matt Keeley  mrme@eskimo.com<=-
Living Through | Visit my home page
Another        | http://www.eskimo.com/~mrme
Cuba -- XTC    | I used to be temporarily insane!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Now I'm just stupid! -- Brak
(ICQ UIN: 1455267, Name: MrMe)
Yeah.

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Message-ID: <33BB426A.234C@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 23:10:50 -0700
From: Eric Rosen <rimshot3@ix.netcom.com>
Organization: Eat, Sleep, & Breathe Interactive Training
Subject: What did AP mean when he said...

Hey, Mark F...
>Cue long and protracted flame war about whether refering to Lewis's
>well-known religious allegory is conclusive proof that Andy is a closet
>Christian after all.

I think you're on to something :>

At Command Performance in Toronto '89, AP recounts how he changed the
speed and key of "Mayor" and wound up with something far better than
what he started with.  He adds the quip, "somebody up there must like
me!"

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Message-ID: <33BB42FF.18D5@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 23:13:19 -0700
From: Eric Rosen <rimshot3@ix.netcom.com>
Organization: Eat, Sleep, & Breathe Interactive Training
Subject: Power Miniature Mac Sun

It's reassuring to discover that I'm not othe only one experiencing the
triggering of MSun horns when PMacs power up.

Any of you "perfect pitch" people figured out what chord that is? Ian D?

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Message-ID: <33BB4BEA.72AB@ix.netcom.com>
Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 23:51:22 -0700
From: Eric Rosen <rimshot3@ix.netcom.com>
Organization: Eat, Sleep, & Breathe Interactive Training
Subject: No Thugs in Our UN

I know the connection to XTC here is a bit of a stretch but why deny the
social activist streak that runs throughout their lyrical history?
Surely this is more real than any connection between Dear Madam Barnum
and Maggie Thatched Hut (not that I dismiss that out of hand)...

It's more likely European chalxters heard about this and I couldn't help
thinking of No Thugs when I heard it...

In '93, two Belgian soldiers acting as UN peacekeepers(?!) in Somalia
photographed themselves roasting a young Somali boy over an open fire!

Yesterday, a Belgian judge acquitted them and spoke of this in terms of
"horsing around" (as opposed to serious mayhem?).

As the song goes, "his dad's a judge and knows exactly what the job of
judging's all about."

If you have RealAudio installed, hear for yourself...

http://www.webactive.com/webactive/pacifica/demnow.html

OR

http://www.webactive.com/webactive/pacifica/demnow/dn970702.html

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Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970703074834.0067c340@pop.mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 03:48:34 -0400
From: "Jason 'Buffy' NeSmith" <jnesmith@mindspring.com>
Subject: Impotency of Speech in action

Dumb tenuous connection:  Pere Ubu leader David Thomas
(not, I repeat, NOT the Wendy's guy) has a Beach Boys
fixation.  He quotes Sloop John B in at least a couple
of songs I know of, and does a re-interpretation of
'Surfer Girl'.  He also has a song called 'Beach Boys'
on Pere Ubu's latest album, Ray Gun Suitcase, which
sounds nothing like their 80's stuff (which I liked,
but had little to do with their 70's material).  Whew!

I love the packaging of Upsy.  I love the lamb picture,
the chocolate box concept, the picture of the band, and
the songs as individual pieces or within the context of
their respective albums.  However, listening to UDA all
the way through didn't have the effect I thought it would.
Given the scope of Xtc's output, these songs all sound
the same.  Of course, they don't REALLY sound the same,
but they don't flow very well.  If this was the only
thing I ever heard from them, I would think they were a
rock band that dabbled in keyboards and acoustic guitars.
I was spouting off about xtc to one of the young guys at work.
He expressed interest in hearing them, so I bought UDA
with the intention of letting him borrow it.  After
listening to it, I opted to bring him Oranges and Lemons.
I think he thought it was okay, but apparently his roommate
went nuts for it.  Bully for him!

And doesn't that picture of Dave in UDA make him look rather,
erm, sweet in the pants?  Like a french trombone?
I didn't say that.

Concerning Andy's bridges:  Yeah, I'm occasionally
dissappointed by them.  Total agreement with whomever
said 'I can't Own Her' falls flat there.  Lots of those
Mummer bonus tracks and O&L songs do that, too.  They're
often so NOT subtle.  Sometime, though, they pitch the
song into another realm, like 'No Language in Our Lungs.'

Just got Dukes on CD today at that bastion of hipness, Record
Town at the mall.  I figured they would file it under 'D',
and I was right.  One thing:  did the vinyl version have the
Tuli Kupferberg 'Atom Bomb' sample on it?  I've owned it for
years and never caught it.  Is it the very last thing on
'Mole' right before 'Vanishing Girl?'

Well, enough verbal durchfall, gotta go rock.
love and cosmic flat tires,
Buffy
visit the Orange Hat Cyberhose Page, or I KEEL YOU!
http://www.mindspring.com/~jnesmith
See the latest review of the new Orange Hat 7":
http://www.babysue.com/Reviews-July-97.html#anchor10449

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Message-ID: <c=GB%a=_%p=Benfield_Group%l=BENEXCHG-970703093831Z-6221@benexchg.benfield.co.uk>
From: Gary Minns <Gary.Minns@benfield.co.uk>
Subject: Singles Club
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 10:38:31 +0100

>>...Is this [Science Friction] the only XTC single to date that
>>never appeared on an album...
>
>...Boat is the only track that has never been on an album...

With the myriad variations of each release in each country there are
quite a few tracks that could count in this category.

For UK releases: Are You Receiving Me? never appeared on Go2
and Dear God never made it to Skylarking.  The single version of
Ten Feet Tall also never got to an album.

Perhaps the best example is Take This Town which never appeared
on any proper albums.

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One thing I really hope for from a new XTC record deal is some
genuine new B-sides.  They have so much material stored up that
it is about time we were treated to new tracks when we splash
out for a CD single.  The last proper B-sides I remember were
Extrovert and The World Is Full Of Angry Young Men.

Gary

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Message-Id: <199707031229.FAA13308@f54.hotmail.com>
From: "Katrina_and_ Scott" <kajustin@hotmail.com>
Subject: hello from London
Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 05:29:28 PDT

hello chalkies,

I am getting settled here in London finally.  I am at a library close to
home in North London with Internet access.  I was surprised to find a
copy of Fossil Fuel on the shelf of 'new stock'!  You have to pay 30
pence a day to rent though.  Also, many of the buses here have ads for
Virgin radio and XTC is one of the bands that they advertise.  Someone
else is waiting for the computer, so I have to go.  I hope to visit
Swindon soon and will report about my journey here.

Bye,
-Scott

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Message-Id: <9707031309.AA07920@Air.akita-u.ac.jp>
Subject: Sakamoto & Partridge
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 97 22:15:47 +0900
From: A&M Mackenzie <mackenzi@Air.akita-u.ac.jp>

Greetings from Japan!

My wife recently picked up a CD copy of Ryuichi Sakamoto's B-2 Unit (Alfa
records, ALCA-9070). It's quite an old recording (from 1980) and It
sounds fairly typical of his post Yellow Magic Orchestra stuff, i.e.
almost unlistenable. What will be of interest to Chalkhills subscribers
however, is that the only non-Japanese musician credited on the album is
one Andy Partridge. Does anyone out there know anything more about this
record? It's hard to tell exactly the extent of Andy's contribution as
every track is electronic. There are no sleevenotes either, which is why
I'm curious to find out a little more about this record.

sayonara, chaps,

Mike Mackenzie.

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From: vince <vince@io.com>
Message-Id: <199707031446.JAA15295@xanadu.io.com>
Subject: UDA-Nice price
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 09:46:24 -0500 (CDT)

I was pleasently surprised to see that Upsy Daisy is only
$10US. Of course, Nonesuch can be had for $5. Anyway, I
bought a copy for the jukebox at my local watering hole,
Waterloo Brewing Co. in Austin.

vince

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Subject: Box Set Recommendation
From: wwilson@mail07.mitre.org (Wesley H. Wilson)
Message-Id: <970703113719.30170@mail07.mitre.org.0>
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 97 11:37:20 -0400

If you like a band that touts its Englishness, writes incredibly catchy
songs, and vied with XTC during the "Great Punk Wars of 1977" you've got to
check out the new box set by The Jam. Five discs: all of the albums, rare
tracks and b-sides, a groovy book, all of the music remastered.

The melodies on these CDs will be bouncing around in your heads like a penny
in a six-year-old's piggy bank.

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