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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 3, Number 123

                   Tuesday, 3 June 1997

Today's Topics:

              The prodigal daughter returns
                  Deeper Meaning is Crap
                  Re: Drums and Wireless
                     Bangs and Marsh
             XTC at 16 RPM / Flaming The Pie
                Bass and Trombones...amen!
                   Re: XTC DIRECT TO US
                    I Love Homosexuals
you take the low part and follow the kick drum with Daves
          Oranges and Melons / Rocking the Boat
                     A failed attempt
                    Where was my Mind?
                  Partridge/Newell photo
              Sgt. Pepper's Flying Goon Show
                 Beefheart: Safe as Milk
               The Partridge Report: 6-2-97
        Very short ramble today... more of a ram.
                      Get The Expert
              Re: Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, etc
            Deep-sixed, Melt The G, http & C.


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Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 16:55:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Natalie Jane Jacobs <>
Subject: The prodigal daughter returns
Message-ID: <>

And with such a load of Chalkhills in her in-box, as well!

Well, I'm back from England's green and pleasant land, still pretty
jet-lagged and tired, but the scars are starting to fade and I'm sure that
nasty sore will heal in no time.  I had a blast at the convention -
pictures will be appearing on Perdix as soon as I can haul my sorry ass to
the computing center where the scanners are - and it was really, really
nice meeting all of you Chalkhillians who were there.  (Cheryl, did I ever
manage to buy you a drink?)  Big, big, humongous, tremendous thanks to
Mike Foster for pulling it all together and making it such a pleasant
experience.  (Nice T-shirt, too!)

As I was with Simon for most of the time, I can't really add anything to
his description, but I must point out that it was, of course, Simon's keen
knowledge of the Dukes of Stratosphear's ouevre that led to us winning the
"Smartest Monkey" plaque, which somehow made it through customs and is now
sitting on top of my computer.  I'd also like to thank those of you who
complimented Perdix - it's an odd but gratifying ego boost to have a
complete stranger say to you, "Natalie Jacobs?  Don't you do Perdix?
Great site!"  :)

Martin Newell, as a couple of people have mentioned, was terrific - the
Dave Gregory impersonation was hysterical (and spot-on) - and afterwards,
having already heard a little of "The Greatest Living Englishman" at
Simon's house, I went out and bought it for myself.  It's good -
derivative, in a way, but derivative of good things (Moulding,
"Revolver"), and its self-conscious Englishness compliments the music
rather than weighing it down, at least to this American's ears.

I also bought "Lost in Music" by Giles Smith - is this in print in
America?  It's very funny and worth reading even aside from the XTC
references.  I think someone here said it was lightweight and it is, but
good for train/plane reading, providing welcome relief to the travel-worn

A final, slightly redundant purchase was a British version of
"Skylarking," without "Dear God."  I guess I'm a hardcore collector now
because I now have "Skylarking" in three different versions - American CD,
British CD, and American first-pressing vinyl.  Shoot me now.

So I did finally trawl through all those Chalkhills which winged my way
during my absence... not much I can comment on, really.  Kimberly Martin,
you are cool and I want your zine.  Ralph DeMarco, you are also cool.
Andy Metcalfe (of the Egyptians, Robyn Hitchcock's former band) is a
bassist that I like, though as a non-musician I don't know how how
proficient he is - I just know that his sound is immediately identifiable
and highly enjoyable.

I guess that's all I have to say... no, one more thing:  Andy's new demo
that Peter played at the convention, "We're All Light," is fucking
gorgeous.  I've forgotten most of what it sounds like now, but every so
often a fragment of it will come back to me like an angel's voice.  Thank
you so much, Peter, for playing it.  New album, come quickly!

Natalie Jacobs
Perdix: The Andy Partridge Appreciation Page
(too tired to think of tag-line)


Date: Sat, 31 May 1997 20:08:12 -0700
Message-Id: <>
Subject: Deeper Meaning is Crap

Hiya amigos -

Let me just add my vote to those who say Becki DiGregorio's CD is good (and
should be on a major record co. roster!), and John Wedermeyer - you're a
damn good guitarist yourself, man - but thanks for the report on Dave as

All of the convention reports were cool to read, particularly
Simon's. Thanks!  Wish I coulda been there...  I sure hope these
rumors/reports about an imminent signing for our boys are correct!!!

RogerFromOz - man, you got that right about over-analyzing things.  During
the 15 years or so I subscribed to Rolling Stone, I got really tired of
reading some of the reviews that were so over-analyzing it was ridiculous.
The artist and/or band that did some of these records probably had a huge
laugh about the whole thing.  Not to say that sometimes songs DO have some
bigger, or 'hidden' meanings, but to suggest that every single line has some
deeper meaning is crap.

Marshall Armintor - you mistakenly said Pete Thomas, not Bruce Thomas, on
bass for EC (but don't feel bad, I get 'em mixed up too) - but man, you were
right about the bass-playing on those trax!  The Attractions are killer,

The new Macca - "Flaming Pie".  If you wanna know more, email me privately.
All I'll say here is that the first half of this CD sounds like it could've
been recorded between Abbey Road and Band on the Run, if that means anything
to you.  And the second half ain't bad, either.  An' it ain't ruined by the
Anti-Lennon, either.  So there.

****SWINDON, ENGLAND  31/05/97****(from the London Times)*******************
Long-time quirky popsters XTC, long-since given up for dead, have evidently
re-formed and are working on a new album.  Due to (evidently) record label
troubles in the past, the lads have formed their own record label, to be
called Moulding Partridge Records, Ltd.  Despite the newness of the label,
other bands are already rumored to be in line to be added to the label's
At the forefront are the Dukes of Stratosphear, a band long-forgotten to
most of the public, more so than XTC themselves.  In a phone interview with
Andy "Andy" Partridge, I learned that the band is evidently working on a
4-album set, which will include all of his demos over the past several
years, all of Colin Moulding's demos during the same period, all of Dave
Gregory's work with a myriad of other artists, the legendary Basement Tapes,
and a variety of other trax, demos, and sound bites.  Partridge told me some
of the working song titles, which included "Screwed by (a) Virgin", "5-Year
Constipation", "Stage Fright Boogie", and a rumored cover of the Ramones'
punk classic "I Wanna Be Sedated", slowed down with strings.  Partridge also
shrugged off recent rumors about guitarist Dave Gregory's alledged
homosexuality, saying that people who worry the most about homosexuals often
are repressing those tendencies themselves.  The phone interview ended with
Partridge saying telling this reporter that the new album could take a
while, because his legendary shed needed to be totally rewired first, and
that the rumors of the Dukes being killed in a bizarre kitchen accident no
truth to them whatsoever.


Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 12:13:15 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id: <l03020900afb7120f2804@[]>
From: Dave Blackburn <>
Subject: Re: Drums and Wireless

To any Chalk people interested in XTC's production quirks,
	Some sonic musings:
 	Every time I listen to Drums and Wireless, the English BBC
compilation, I'm really impressed by the engineering and mix by the BBC
studio folks; in fact some of the tracks from the O&L CD, sound better on
the "live in the studio" versions on Drums and Wireless. I think the
massive compression used on the O&L mastering definitely made it in your
face but loses a lot of nuances in the various instrumental parts.
	On the subject of mastering, I have to voice a complaint about my
copy of Nonsuch. The over-the-top compression and added high end to the
master of what is perhaps XTC's first digitally tracked CD (my
assumption..), makes it rather a harsh and aggressive listen compared to
the full but smoother sound of English Settlement or Mummer.
	I love the different vocal effects Andy uses on different songs
throughout the XTC epoch. The short pronounced delays instead of reverb
really help define the sound of 80's Brit pop, but he is also not afraid to
use distortion boxes and flangers (and what sounds like cupped hands in the
"I'm speaking to the justice league of America... section in Melt the Guns)
	If anyone would be into discussing production or engineering
aspects of the XTC oevre it might be a more fun way to exploit this
wonderful website than banter back and forth about French trombone similes
or who's flaming whom.

Dave Blackburn


Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 20:23:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Bangs and Marsh
Message-ID: <>

  Speaking of Dave Marsh, for those familiar with the work and reputation
of Lester Bangs:

Letter received by Dave Marsh, Jan '86



You know that jive about "If there's a rock and roll heaven, they must
have a hell of a band?" Don't believe it, pal.
All of the talent went straight to Hell. All of it. The big acts up here
are Jim Croce, Karen Carpenter, Cass elliot, and especially- Bobby
Bloom!(Who? C.R.C.) If I have to hear that fucking "Montego Bay" even one
more time, I may kill mysel...(ah, shit, keep forgetting).
Anyway, I apply for admission to Hell every six months but they keep
turning me down, claiming- dig this: I'm TOO GOOD-HEARTED! Write 'em and
set 'em straight, willya? Tell them just what an asshole I can be when I
feel like it.
Met God when I first got here. I asked him why. You know, 33 and all. All
he said was "M.T.V." He didn't want me to experience it, whatever the
fuck it is.
Gotta run. Literally. Another herd of hoary harp hacks heading here.
Playing Zep's "Stairway" of course. Fucking national anthem in this burg.
Take it from me, Dave. heaven was Detroit, Michigan. who woulda thunk it?

Eternally yours,

(Lester did most of his writing in Detroit for Creem magazine, and was a
huge fan of the likes of The Stooges and the MC5, both of whom typified
the Detroit rock scene in the early '70's in their own way, though
unfortunately Grandfunk was more popular)I suspect Lester would have
loved the Dukes Of Stratosphear; he probably would have had mixed
feelings about XTC, old punk that he was.

Christopher R. Coolidge
Eleventh Hour Cauldron Publications


Message-ID: <>
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 1997 21:49:24 -0700
From: Stormy Monday <>
Subject: XTC at 16 RPM / Flaming The Pie


Q.   What do you get when you play a track from an XTC 33 and 1/3 LP at
16 speed?
A.   The Crash Test Dummies playing a well written song.

*  *   *

James Issacs was right: "Flaming Pie" overall is a good record, but the
title track has all of the things that I HATE about the Antilennon's
production style.  Still, it has been a long time since Paul sounded
this good, and I even like the Steve Miller stuff.

Stormy Monday


Message-Id: <v01540b0dafb802941059@[]>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 16:55:19 +1200
From: (James Dignan)
Subject: Bass and Trombones...amen!

>I agree with Bob Mould on his attitude, being gay is just your sexuality,
>not your whole being. There's a hell of a lot more going on in a single
>person to define whether they are good or bad than just who they fancy.

or, to quote Billy Bragg - "Just because you're gay I won't send you away -
if you stick around, I'm sure that we will find some common ground".

>And as for Christian music. Most of my teenage years were spent listening
>to it. When I discovered alternative, a lot of it dropped from my stereo
>because it sounded too corny to me. But there *are* decent bands, believe
>it or not. You just have to know where to look because they don't get
>played often, or sometimes not at all.

let's not forget Bruce Cockburn in that list of damn fine musicians who are
proud about their Christianity. Being a Christian or not doesn't make one
automatically a good or bad musician. There's a hell of a lot more going on
in a single person to define whether they are good or bad than just their
religiony. Which brings us back to the gay debate...

re bassists: This crops up ever now and again on the list, and I can never
help but mention John Entwistle, Tony Levin, Bruce Thomas, Nigel Griggs
(Split Enz), Paul McCartney and (standup bass, but still the maestro) Danny


 James Dignan___________________________________               You talk to me
 Deptmt of Psychology, Otago University               As if from a distance
 ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk Street               And I reply. . . . . . . . . .
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 steam megaphone (03) 455-7807               (Brian Eno - "By this River")


Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 01:09:03 -0700
From: james pitinii <>

Dear sir,
I think xtc (or any other recording artist) could set up a subscription
list for their cd's.  It would work like this: xtc sets a price
(including shipping and handling) for the next cd they release.

Interested parties would send the fee.  XTC would use some of the money
to record the cd and press it.  Then they would ship it to the
subscribers.  No record company theives invited!


From: "McDonald, Roger" <>
Subject: I Love Homosexuals
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 16:42:00 +1000

Dear Trainspotters,
Sorry, I couldn't resist the subject tag...
My mail today is actually directed at Marshall Joseph Armintor and a
devilishly fine name it is too. Cue twilight zone music.... the very
morning I recieived the Chalkhills with your enquiry in it I was looking
for something to listen to on my walkman and in desparation I got out an
old case full of tapes at least 10 years old. What a treasure trove! Do
the following names mean anything to you - Cowboys International, Wire,
the first Orange Juice album, John Cooper Clarke, Walter Steding, Ed
Keupper and the Laughing Clowns, SW9, Jane Aire and the Belvederes?
However the one that grabbed my eye(ouch!) was a tape with Pere Ubu's
'The Modern Dance" on one side and The Homosexuals on the other. Not
having played it for about 6 or 7 years I was taken with how fresh and
vital it sounded (The Homosexuals that is!). When I read your post I got
Your description is just about spot on. I would've said Wire (circa Pink
Flag) with a twist of early zany (hate that word!!!) XTC. You take a
song like Astral Glamour and in about a minute and a half there's enough
ideas for twenty songs - the sort of pop stream of consciousness that
Paul Weller tried for with Little Boy Soldiers (and failed so
ignominiously) from the equally ordinary 'rockist' Setting Sons.
I got my tape from an eccentric acquaintance (I wonder whatever happened
to him?) who gave me a recommended records catalogue and compilation
tape. It made me wonder if all the best music hasn't already been done
by folks (not unlike some chalkhillians out there I suspect!) that have
given up on world domination like myself.
Unfortunately (and here's the bottom line - sorry to go on Chris Clee:))
I have no information about them either, apart from the fact that they
sound English (check out the song "All About Cheap") and are $%^#$#@@!
brilliant! A couple of years ago I saw the record in the local record
import shop but I was more into The Damned that particular month(silly
I do remember this eccentric friend actually had a couple of records by
bands called Geurnica and After Dinner that were so rare that when you
ordered them they actually cut your name into the end groove of the
record for chrissakes!! Its a bit of a sad story really isn't it? Silly
bloody Phil tosspot Collins sells bucket loads of records, The
Homosexuals disappear from the face of the earth after delivering one
absolutely brilliant record and XTC don't have a recording contract.
What a terrible world we live in.
Please mail me direct to lament other recommended records artists if you


Message-Id: <v03102809afb826b5dde6@[]>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 03:56:42 -0400
From: arthur james virgin <>
Subject: you take the low part and follow the kick drum with Daves


I must say, all this talk of DG's sexuality reminds me of my recent stint
on the Crowded House mailing list.  They would fill up 3 digests about Neil
Finn's shoes and hair.  It all leaves me scratching my head.  BTW, if gay
people are more creative I guess I have to go out and find myself a man in
order to finish this album thats been rolling around in my head for the
past 3 years.

Now onto bassists.  Not too hard for me to think of 6 right off hand:
1) Geddy Lee.  The sum of this group may not be greater than its seperate
parts, but I've yet to hear someone in rock meld such off the wall lines so
seamlessly with a groove.
2) Nick Seymour (Crowded House).  I always imagined all the pressure that
he had to feel working with Mr. Neil Finn.  How would you like to be
responsible for bass parts to some of the most amazing songs in this era by
one of the greatest living songwriters?
3) Matt Wilson (Trip Shakespear / SemiSonic).  As under-rated as it gets.
They arent just bass lines, they are melody lines.
4) Bruce Thomas (Attractions etc..).  Hes out in the woods with his
squirrel gun.
5) Tony Levin.  Those 4 inch finger extensions are most frightening!
6) Colin Moulding.  I always greatly respected all of his bass work, but it
was during my first listening of "One of the Millions"  when I realized
just how much I took it for granted.

Honorable Mention:
Mike Mills (REM)  If you know anything about him, you know he is much more
than a bass player.

Back to super lurk mode (Hey Rick!),


Message-ID: <>
From: "Witter, Karl F" <>
Subject: Oranges and Melons / Rocking the Boat
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 10:00:58 -0400

>[Roger McD] people who think that the main protagonist
>watering his garden is actually a metaphor for his deep
>yearning to shag the vicar's daughter with a watermelon!

Good to know I'm not the only one who's noticed; Dick
Francis, Steven King, Judith Krantz and Tom Clancy
have pretty much beaten that metaphor to death.

>[James Dupuy] One Of The Millions...seems to have the
>sway of a boat adrift in the ocean

That'll teach me to post quicker! I felt the nautical
rhythm while purposefully keeping time with my toes to
O&L. It strikes me as a boat rolling on the waves, how-
ever, rather than adrift. Certainly it's not being rocked.

Fave songs and album: Skylarking is my favorite album. It
(along with O&L) was also the one I owned first. Doesn't that
tend to happen for Chalkhillers and/or music fans in general,
to attach most fondly to something when the bloom is on the
rose? Not that it's faded now! Oops. Looks like I'm gone into
deep fertilizer. Well, anyway, if favorite songs are the ones you
sing along with, fervently, then they'd be on Skylarking, Black
Sea, and The Big Express. Honorable mentions to O&L and Nonsvch.

>[John Wedemeyer]Anyway, this is getting a little long

About Dave Gregory going to your show, complementing you on
your work, and talking some music? Geez, I usually wake up
in the middle of *that* dream :-)! Post away!

King Crimson fans, in multitudes, have kindly corrected me for
my ignorance re Pat Mastellato, and his place in their "double
trio". I do now remember it being mentioned more than once.
You all can take a bow for your fervent dedication.

Come to an humiliating end,


From: Cheryl <>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:21:45 GMT
Subject: A failed attempt
Message-ID: <>

Hey there

You's not a good idea to try and explain why you like XTC
when you are pissed off your bum.  How do I know this?  I tried.  I
had friends over for dinner a few nights ago and the question came
up.   Who are XTC and why do you like them?  I don't remember much
other than a slurred "XTzz are wonderfo" and "Margretsss heard tem"
It was about then the world began to slide away from me.  I don't
know what else I could have told them, but the next day I said
perhaps I should play a song or two to show them .  All I got was a
snicker and a "pass on that one, bob".  *sigh*

Drowning here in London,


Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 09:47:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: Marshall Joseph Armintor <>
Subject: Where was my Mind?
Message-ID: <>

  Every single day of my life, I get Bruce Thomas's name correct, except
when it counts on the very day I try to share my joy in his magnificent bass
playing with others -- and I call on the drummer pointed out
by many (ok, 3) of y'all.
   Musta been all that cough syrup I had that morning.  Oh, and forgot to
mention "Shabby Doll" from Imperial Bedroom, as a private poster pointed out.

I am a bone-head.


Date: Mon, 2 Jun 97 15:24:15 UT
From: "William Hearne" <>
Message-Id: <>
Subject: Partridge/Newell photo

There is a nice photo of Andy and Martin Newell together which can be found


From: Matt_Kaden/CAM/
Message-Id: <>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:12:59 -0400
Subject: Sgt. Pepper's Flying Goon Show

I don't know why, but I enjoy associating certain things with other things.
The past year especially, I've been reveling in the kaleidoscope of the
innovations of Peter Sellers / Spike Milligan in the '50s, The Beatles, and
Monty Python's Flying Circus. All of these forces combined together make a
very entertaining mix tape (to say the least), and they all seem to
compliment each other and share the same surreal, frantic energy. One can
investigate the various ways in which all these people literally crossed
over and influenced each other and I find great pleasure in thinking of
them all as different manifestations of the same magic. For me XTC carry on
this magic, and they are the only ones in this age I can say that about. I
don't want to upset anyone here, but I'd like to recommend that anyone who
hasn't looked into The Goon Show, you might get a lot out of it.


Message-ID: <>
From: "Sherwood, Harrison" <>
Subject: Beefheart: Safe as Milk
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:44:45 -0400

In  Chalkhills Digest #3-122 (John M.
>Hackney) axed:

>        Last issue Jason NeSmith mentioned that Captain Beefheart doesn't
>venture much out of his trailer in the Mojave---  I could be mistaken, but
>isn't he *dead*?  I thought that he died about two years or so ago, of some
>neurological disorder.  Anyone able to confirm this?

<blink>[RUNNING JOKE]--></blink>

No, no no: it's _Andy Partridge_ who is dead. Haven't you been paying

<blink><--[END OF RUNNING JOKE]</blink>

(Pause to allow HUMOROUS and NOT AT ALL FACTUAL nature of above JOKE to
sink in, and for it to become apparent that the preceding paragraph is
IN NO WAY meant to be interpreted as TRUE. Repeat: IT IS NOT TRUE THAT
ANDY PARTRIDGE IS DEAD. You're thinking of Dave Gregory.)*

No, Captain Beefheart is not dead. But apparently there have been rumors
to that effect. From the FAQ at The Home Page Replica, a site dedicated
to Sam Showing Scalp Flattop (Particular About the Point It Made)
himself (the whole thing can be seen at

 - What's he doing now?   Don is presently living something of a
reclusive life in a small   Californian town only a few miles from the
Oregon border. Since he has   given up making music he has concentrated
entirely on painting and   drawing and has made a considerable
reputation for himself at both.   Far from the days when he'd receive
little or no money in return for   his musical efforts, Don now sells
his wild, abstract paintings in the   $10,000 to $35,000 range, his
drawings selling for between $500 and   $5,000. He's had dozens of
exhibitions held around the world (mainly   in Europe) and has plans for
dozens more. He's said to be 'happy as a   clam'. - Is it true that he's
very ill?   Probably not. This rumour was started by musician Henry
Kaiser,   someone who has sought to blacken Don's name for some time now
for   reasons best known to himself. (It's thought that he tried to get
into   the Magic Band at some point in the past and was turned down) The
  story goes that Don has either got lung cancer or multiple sclerosis.
 In a recent (and rare) interview, Don didn't actually *deny* that he
was ill but he did make it plain that he had just built a larger
studio for him to paint in; hardly the actions of someone who doesn't
expect to be around much longer.The Keeper of the FAQ goes on to say
that Henry Kaiser has since repudiated the interview in which he hinted
that Beefheart was mortally ill.

Harrison "Henry just wanted to lick him everywhere there's ink" Sherwood

"Dear Mr. Sherwood: I  have 36.4 existence-challenged Dead-American
friends who were deeply hurt and depressed by your insensitive and
oppressive remarks about their lack-of-lifestyle. Remember: They did not
_choose_ death. Recent studies show that predisposition toward deathness
is genetically determined...."


Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 15:57:53 -0400
From: RocketRob <>
Organization: Pink Palace Productions
Subject: Videos

Hi All,
I have about 6 hrs of XTC on vid for trade,
I do take non-XTC stuff in trade aswell, let me know if your

Rob C.


Date: Mon, 2 Jun 97 17:05:47 -0500
Subject: bliss
Message-ID: <>


We tried to listen to the radio where I work the other day and promptly
turned it off, finding nothing but CRAP on it.  So we settled for the Thai
classical CDs we have (it's a Thai place) until my co-worker, Steve, finally
said, "OK, let's see if the radio stations have improved their programming"
"Ha!" I said.  "Within the last half-hour?  Don't think so..." only to then
hear "Generals and Majors" blasting through the restaurant.   The local
"alternative rock" station (one of the great cliches of the '90s) apparently
had some 80's flashback thing on, so I got to hear some XTC (to the rest
of the world, one of the not-so-great 'where are they now?' bands).
Rock on, XTC!



Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 14:22:29 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id: <v01510103afb87f13ce2f@[]>
From: (Mitch Friedman)
Subject: The Partridge Report: 6-2-97

Just a little addendum to what I divulged a few weeks ago . . .

Sometime in the next week or so, the band's lawyers will go over a batch of
new contract offers with a fine tooth comb and then they will decide on one
or two but he refused to give me any clues or hints about which labels they

Andy was just getting ready to compose a letter to a publishing company in
the US that wants to do a book in which the members of XTC discuss every
single song they've ever recorded to date. Anyone interested?

Although Colin isn't totally involved yet and Dave is but hasn't
contributed, Andy has begun to work on the Bootleg Album in the Shed on his
own so far. He got a brand new Alesis drum pad kit which allows him to
actually play the drums with sticks on pads but this new equipment has not
been used on any of his demos to date. He agreed that the drum sounds on the
demos are the only things that don't sound really authentic and says that
this new set up has the sound and feel of almost live drums. He took all of
your suggestions from several months ago about what you'd like to have on
this Bootleg Album and said that anything that has been previously released,
even in demo form, like "Find the Fox", "Let's Make a Den", "Haunted Heart",
cannot be recorded without immense amounts of trouble and more legal
issues. So he's come up with a list of about a dozen of the best of the
leftover demos to begin work on and everyone will participate. So far he's
thinking about "This is the End", "Broomstick Rhythm", "Everything", "Goosey
Goosey", "Jelly Baby" (a bubblegum album outtake), "End of the Pier" (a
'new' one to me!) and others. Colin will choose a few of his own like "Car
Out of Control" but that was all he could tell me thusfar. Don't expect it
any time soon but do expect it sometime in the future.

Reporting from San Francisco, this is Mitch Friedman.

Now back to you John . . .


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From: "Matt Keeley" <>
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:09:29 +0000
Subject: Very short ramble today... more of a ram.

Or possibly a ble.... anyway,

>From me, and it still goes!

> Hello all.  Just a little reminder, POST TO THE RYKO MESSAGE BOARD!!
> Just follow this handy link:


Thank you, and now no more for this post of the Ryko thing.

>From: (John M. Hackney)
>         Last issue Jason NeSmith mentioned that Captain Beefheart doesn't
> venture much out of his trailer in the Mojave---  I could be mistaken, but
> isn't he *dead*?  I thought that he died about two years or so ago, of some
> neurological disorder.  Anyone able to confirm this?
I'm not sure if he's alive, but if he's not, it would explain why he
doesn't venture much from his trailer...8)  (Now that's callous!)

OBXTC:  I just got Black Sea and White Music...  Anyone else think
that "I'll Set Myself on Fire" would be a Barnes and Barnes song if
Colin said "yeah" at the end...?  Pretty good song, though....  And I
still take back the thing about Colin's early stuff sucking...
especially Heatwave.  But right now, I'm not too fond of Crosswires.
(Just remember, next post, I'll say that Crosswires was one of his
best and I'm a stupid git...)

BTW, in the administrivia for the last issue it said "enough about
the bass players, already" or something to that effect... while I was
one of the people who contributed to that one, I'll have to agree...
but what I'm really sick of is the whole "Is Dave gay?" thread....
ugh.  I personally don't care.  He's a kick ass musician.  Why do we
need to know his personal life things... heh?  Anyway... (gotta reach
my "anyway" quota!)

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From: "Mark Strijbos" <>
Organization: The Little Lighthouse
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 23:40:16 +0000
Subject: Get The Expert


Somebody ( I forgot who...) at the Basingstoke Convention said he
remembered seeing the XTC stuff being given away on the Beeb's
Multi Coloured Swap Show back in 1981.
Could this person please describe the event here on the list or in a
private message to me ???
Or does anyone happen to own a video tape of this ?

Thanks to Daniel P. I now have a decent playable copy of the
"XTC Play At Home" videofilm and I was wondering...
Is the video mix of Love On A Farmboys Wages featured in this film
any different from the album version or not ?
Seems to me the bass and the lyrics(!) are not exactly the same.

Does the official Smartest Monkey know anything about this?

I'm in XTC,

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse

===> Mark's Random XTC Quote <===
Even I never know where I go when my eyes are closed


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Date: Tue, 03 Jun 1997 11:04:00 +0900
From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCQ2YwZkJnPXUbKEI=?= <>
Subject: Re: Gorky's Zygotic Mynci, etc

Gorky's Zygotic Mynci are a wonderful Welsh band, not well known
enough in my opinion. Their first? three albums, "introducing GZM",
"Patio" and "Bywd Time" are all full of quirky pop (neo-psychdelia?)
although I feel more currency with various Canterbury bands, rather
than XTC. Actually some of the highlights off their albums are "Why
Are We Sleeping", covered off "Soft Machine vol.1" and "O Caroline"
(in English and Welsh) off the immortal Matching Mole's debut. They
also have a song called "Kevin Ayres" with the liner notes "our hero"!
Hmm.. anybody else out there with an affinity for this stuff?

>From: Dean Martucci <>
>Subject: Gorky's Zygotic Mynci
>Can anyone tell me more about this band? I just found their album
>"Barafundle" and it is super. Probably it's more kosher to reply
>directly to me rather than the digest, but in any case I think some
>of you will enjoy this band.

>Sort of a dreamy folk XTC sound; lot's of High Llhamas in there too.
>I believe the musicians are actually Scottish (yes?). They are also
>partial to using the emminently readable Welsh spelling wherever
>possible on their sleeve.

The last that I heard of, Don Van Vliet was alive but not particularly
well, fighting Multiple Sclerosis, although I have also heard that the
MS is simply a ruse and he is just staying quiet.
Perhaps we are getting confused with the late Frank Zappa, who did die
of prostate cancer in December 1993?

>From: (John M. Hackney)
>Subject: Captain Beefheart lives?

>        Last issue Jason NeSmith mentioned that Captain Beefheart
>doesn't venture much out of his trailer in the Mojave---  I could be
>mistaken, but isn't he *dead*?  I thought that he died about two
>years or so ago, of some neurological disorder.  Anyone able to
>confirm this?

 Speaking of bassists, if you will allow me to add my two cents, some
time ago I read a Matthew Sweet quote as to how he used to brag that
he was a better bassist than Paul McCartney, as he "didn't do any
tricky stuff". According to Matthew, he wanted a "grinding, crackling
Rickenbacker sound, like Chris Squire of Yes". But as time went by, he
realised what a great sound you can get from a Hofner Bass, and also
came to recognize Paul M as a great bassist.
 IMHO, there are many good bassists who do all sorts of tricky stuff,
lending pleasure to the ear (John Entwistle, Mike Watt, Flea) but as
to carrying a song,really making the bass part of it, nobody has
topped the left handed Beatle, including Colin Moulding.

Daisuke Nakai


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Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 23:01:54 -0400
From: gregory <>
Organization: InfiNet
Subject: Deep-sixed, Melt The G, http & C.

Chalkhills Champions!

Hello again from Bradenton!

Hello, Derek, how the heck are you?

ITEM #1 - I believe a post I made to Chalkhills never made it in the
digest. This latest issue (Volume 3, Number 122) would suggest so.

ITEM #2 - Anybody heard my "Melt The Guns" MIDI yet?

ITEM #3 - Anybody been to

ITEM #4 -
Brian Matthews wrote:

>"I don't feel that any piece of music from a catalog needs a virtuoso on
>bass guitar, unless it's appropo... the bass is a supporting aspect of the
>musical whole for the most part..."

>I agree. "Walking" bass lines are appropriate only in certain musical
>situations; in addition, how does that make the mark of a great bass
>player? In my opinion, bass lines are the most spectacular when they
>ground the song-- root it in space and time, if you will. Even better, when
>they ground the song and have melodic merit of their own, >independent of
>the song as a whole. P. McCartney has often been sited >for this style with
>his Beatles work. Mr. Moulding is definitely of >this school of thought...< 

I agree with your agreement, Jim. Thanks. Mr. Moulding may not make the
top ten, but he puts his two-cents worth in, and they seem like a couple
of pretty shiny pennies to me!



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