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Subject: Chalkhills Digest #3-112

         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 3, Number 112

                   Tuesday, 13 May 1997

Today's Topics:

                      Classic Guitar
              The Partridge Report - 5/11/97
                   _Upsy Daisy_ review
                      XTC Tribute???
              Re: Peyote Buttons and Hookah
               Verve Pipe raving about XTC
                        don't hit
                  Re: Andy Demos Online
               I Am Not Worthy But becki is
              Internet Get Together ? <long>
                      ice ice maybes
                 Mayo, mo' MIDI & TOP XTC
      The Malarians/Here's Another Clue For You All
                     Terry Chambers?
                   This IS my day job!
                   Andy & Stephen Duffy
                      Smoke or *uc*?
                    More on Paula Cole
                  No Drugs In Our House


It's "smoke", dammit.

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But it's never been as hot as this.


Message-Id: <>
Date: Sat, 10 May 1997 23:36:48 +0100
From: Simon Sleightholm <>
Subject: Classic Guitar

Hi folks,

This might be old news but I don't recall seeing it anywhere:-

New 1997 Musical Instrument Books from Balafon


How the electric guitar and its players dominated a revolutionary decade of
mind-blowing music chronicled by a team of top writers, edited by Tony Bacon

Classic Guitars of the Sixties features special essays by the world's top
writers on guitar history, enhancing the book's panoramic view. Andre
Duchossoir of Gibson Electrics fame writes on Gibson, American Guitars
author Tom Wheeler on US electrics, Crosstown Traffic author Charles Shaar
Murray on rock and pop guitars, **XTC guitarist Dave Gregory** on the
parallel development of playing styles and equipment, Guitar Stories author
Michael Wright on radio & TV in the 1960s, Tennessean reporter Thomas
Goldsmith on country guitars, Gruhn's Vintage Guitars Guide author Walter
Carter on Fender, 'guitar guru' Paul Day on British, German and "world"
guitars, well-known guitar author Tony Bacon on The Beatles' guitars, Fender
Amp Book author John Morrish on recording trends, Portrait of the Blues
author Paul Trynka on blues, soul and blues-rock, BBC broadcaster Charles
Alexander on jazz guitars, and Bizarre Guitars author Hiroyuki Noguchi on
Japanese instruments of the 1960s.

Publication date November 1997
88 pages all 4-colour, including 12pps as four 3-page throwouts
4-colour laminated jacket
Individual page size 320mm (H) x 250mm (W)

UK cover price #17.95

This was nipped from



XTC? Are they still going? Follow me and find out..


Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 16:42:28 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id: <v01510100af9b977c110b@[]>
From: (Mitch Friedman)
Subject: The Partridge Report - 5/11/97

. . . that nose-hairs do not actually possess talent storage capacity. And
now onto the XTC news.

In a brief but informative phone conversation earlier today, Andy revealed
that while he worked with Stephen Duffy on two new songs and potential
singles called "Guiding Star" and "What If I Fell in Love With You?" he
received word that he had won an award for best CD package design for the
Fossil Fuels 3D special version. He did not attend the ceremony to get the
award though. Later he found out that he had also won an award for the "This
World Over" 7" single artwork with all the postcards of bombed out cities
but had never been notified of the news until now.

No deals have been signed with any labels yet but there seem to be three
unnamed frontrunners currently. One is a major label with great distribution
but not a great profit sharing setup, another is an independent label that
would offer lots of money but not great distribution, and a third is a
midsized label with good profit sharing and great distribution everywhere
except for Japan where they don't exist which is a turnoff to XTC since
Japan is one of their strongest markets. He is going NUTS waiting and is
starting to wonder if all these songs will ever get recorded but secretly
knows that most of them will.

Potential producer and big fan Chris Hughes (Adam and the Ants, Tears for
Fears) has been on the phone with Andy for about 3 hours every morning
recently trying to convince him of making only one album instead of the two
that Andy wants to make. He did admit that Nonsuch was too long and the best
length for an album is about 40 minutes so the idea of doing one really long
album doesn't seem to be a possibility.

Three songs that Andy had given to Nicky Holland over two years ago are
about to be released now that she has secured a record deal. One song called
"New York Inside My Head" turned out so well that he is absolutely kicking
himself for giving it to her. Hopefully it will be a hit single someday so
he'll have reason to kick someone else.

The Lloyd Cole rumours are true in that Lloyd wrote a whole new album but
his record company was unhappy with it so they asked Andy if he would be
willing to work with Lloyd to improve on it. Andy had three days free so
Lloyd flew over from New York and they spent them in the shed hashing out
ideas. To this day Andy has never heard a Lloyd Cole record so he was
unprepared and unitiated with his musical style. Basically he sussed out
what kinds of things Lloyd tends to like (resistance to melody for instance)
and then geared the ideas he offered towards them. After three days Lloyd
went home with parts of 16 new songs and Andy will be speaking with him this
week to see what has become of them.

For those of you wondering how the hell XTC survives financially, Andy told
me that starting about 18 months ago they finally began to receive royalties
from their record sales. In addition both Andy and Colin receive publishing
money as well as performance royalties based on airplay. All three give each
other 10% of whatever money comes in to keep things fair and somewhat
democratic.  According to Andy, Dave is quite comfortable at the moment from
all the session work he's been doing and the fact that he is single and has
no pets. Colin is doing alright as well thanks to the money that's been
coming in and he only had to collect rental cars very briefly back in '90
when things were much more in the red. Andy says that his salary is about on
par with a medium well paying job like someone that owns a printing shop or
is the manager of a small computer company would make. He would love to move
out of his house and get a new and bigger one with a proper studio in it but
fears that this could only happen if they have a big hit album someday.

I will be speaking with him again in about a week so stay tuned . . .

p.s. No Fudge in Our House
     The Chip Trapped in the Ice Cream


Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 08:12:30 +0800 (SST)
Message-Id: <>
From: Kevin M Mathews <>
Subject: ME

Fans of XTC may like to check out a 1996 CD from Brit band ME called
HARMONISE OR HAUNT - which has been described as Brian Wilson meets the
Byrds - but I personally hear alot of XTC nuances esp in the way both bands
use the Wilsonesque influence.
Just heard the Green Man demo - Beatlesque heaven!!!


Message-Id: <>
Date: Sun, 11 May 1997 21:06:28 -0400
From: JES <>
Subject: X-Balls

Erich Walther opined:

> The trouble with them is


Hey, my favorite quote about critics comes from someone I can't name,
because I can't remember.  But it goes, simply:  "Critics are like eunuchs
in a harem.  They know how it's done, they've seen it done every day.  But
they can't do it themselves."

Then AMANDA tells the world:


Think of how *I* feel.  Tea Leone down the aisle with THAT twerp.  Sheesh.
* ------------------------------------------------------
jes can be found at....


Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 03:47:34 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <>
From: Greg Brady <>
Subject: _Upsy Daisy_ review

No, I'm not dead...Just been real busy and I'll try to catch up with my
Chalkhills mail ASAP.

This little item appeared in the Dayton, OH _Go!_ entertainment magazine and
thought you all would be interested.  It's a review of _Upsy Daisy
Assortment_ written by Ron Rollins. (P.22, May 9th if you want to buy the

        "In its 20 years of wild pop-rock reinvention, XTC has been churning
out albums which, while occasionally uneven, have been laced with truly
brilliant songs.  _Upsy Daisy Assortment_(Virgin) thankfully brings the best
of these together into a disarming 75-minute collection that shimmers and
snaps so brightly it can make your head spin.  "Generals and Majors","No
Thugs in Our Houses","Dear God","The Mayor of Simpleton"-this comes across
both as a catalog of Britpop highlights and as a testament to the skill of
singer/songwriter Andy Partridge, who will charm you all the way through
this one."

He gave it 4 stars, BTW.
"Fantasy world and Disney girls, I'm comin' back" Bruce Johnston/Beach Boys
shadow@mad.scientist. com   The Grroovy World of Greg Brady can be found at:


Subject: XTC Tribute???
Message-ID: <>
From: (Kerry P Hinton)
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 12:17:14 EDT

I was about to go to be last night when I hppened to turn on MTV.  There
was an ad for 120 minutes, and the teaser line was "...and a tribute to
the British band XTC."

I was excited.

I recorded the show, and watched it this morning . The "tribute" was Matt
Pinfield saying how influential XTC were on the Verve Pipe, and then a
partial listing from memory of their albums.

Matt then explained how everyone knew "Dear God," so he was going to show
a more obscure video -- "Senses." Not too shabby.  At least an attempt.

Andy and Co. were stared in medias res -- from the start of verse 2.  The
second chorus of the song was shown during the credits, and the show
ended before the bridge!

If that's a tribute, I'd hate to see how they treat someone they don't
I did record it, so if anyone is interested in this tortuous footage,
lemme know.

Like a navajo blanket,



Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 10:17:36 -0700
Message-Id: <>
From: John Relph <relph>
Subject: Re: Peyote Buttons and Hookah, the anonymous one, wrote:
>ABout XTC's use of drugs, again I tell you that at the end of
>Skylarking the band thanks this guy STU "for the CACTII" that is very
>likely a reference to peyote buttons, the flower of a cactus that
>grows in the southwest.

I thought it was "Thanks to Re for the Cactii".  Re Styles is the
girlfriend (wife?) of Prairie Prince, timebomb extraordinaire.  There
is no doubt in my mind that the "cactii" in question are those little
houseplant variety, the cute little things you put in your sunny
window, and that the cactii probably made XTC's studio time more
enjoyable in sunny San Francisco.

> The lyrics for 1000 umbrellas are pretty
>trippy with stuff crawling wallpaper and stuff.

Actually, the line "crawling the wallpaper" is a reference to the
phrase "crawling the walls", which means, how does one say, very
frustrated?  Stir crazy?  More of a psychological reference to the
upheaval of a breakup than to a drug induced hallucination.

>  The there is hookah
>with my senses bubbled from then she appeared (hookah is a huge
>contraption used to smoke hashish) as well as other references that
>don't come to mind.

Plenty of others, but then again remember that the caterpillar in
_Alice in Wonderland_ was smoking a hookah, and that hookahs were
originally used for the smoking of tobacco in the Middle East (and
still are).  One does not have to be a pothead to appreciate the
imagery of Lewis Carroll.  And those strange spoken interludes (heh
heh heh, he said "ludes") on _Psonic Psunspot_ are directly inspired
by _Alice in Wonderland_.

> I would bet that the lads use pot every once in a
>while with the occasional foray into hallucinogens.

No.  I would bet that they drank a lot and still drink quite a bit,
but I bet that there is very little if any use of illicit drugs.
Besides, you don't need drugs to be weird.  Think of Frank Zappa...

	-- John


Message-Id: <>
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 12:31:04 -0500
From: Mark Rushton <>
Subject: Verve Pipe raving about XTC

I was flipping the remote around last (Sunday) night and saw the Verve Pipe
raving about XTC on "Alternative Nation" - or whatever that show is called
these days.  Anybody else see it?

Mark Rushton
author of the Bill Nelson/Be Bop Deluxe/Red Noise/Channel Light Vessel web


Message-Id: <>
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:12:09 +0000
Subject: harmonies

A modifier to what I wrote last time about the above....
John & Paul were the last guys to front a band where singing together live
but not too sweetly was integral and when they stopped in 1969 that was it,
the choice was Robert  Plant or Simon & Garfunkel with no ground inbetween ;
any ideas ?

High Fidelity
Compulsory and excruciating reading for one and all, best read a little at a
time to savour the hilarity. The only let down is the cheerful ending which
doesn't suit the book but is probably makes it easier to sell the film
Has anyone written a U S equivalent  ?
To me it is the best Rn'R read since the very wonderful 'paperback writer'
dismantled the beatles.
Anyone read/know how to get hold of  a copy of Al Kooper's 'Backstage

Yet More Jurassic BritPop
Hot on the tails of the Kinks I wondered whether anyone would give the
Zombies the time of day ? I think they were second only to the beatles in
using mostly original material from early days and had a wonderful light
breathless sound.

The views expressed are of the individual, and do not
necessarily reflect the views of The United Bank of Kuwait PLC.


Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:48:51 -0600 (CST)
Subject: don't hit
Message-id: <>

I'm not suprised to see that so many other musicians listen to XTC.  I've
always heard XTC described as a musician's band.  Maybe that's what turns
'regular' folks off---too specialized, not passive enough...I don't know.

Also, why is Dave Marsh's opinion worthy of upsetting the smooth,
free-flowing embodiment of peace that is Chalkhills?  Or any professional
critic's stuff for that matter?  Intellectual deconstruction/evaluation
of music is right up there with meter-maiding as vocations
off the 'faults' of others is okay if you're a cockroach, but I generally
keep the rock-guides near the Raid, lest they multiply.

Maybe I'm too judgemental, which puts me in the right place at the right
time, I think.  Or I could become a rock critic.

Loving this more and more,


Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:51:21 -0500
From: Don Lindbergh <>
Organization: National Library of Medicine
Subject: Re: Andy Demos Online

> From: "Mark Strijbos" <>
> I hope so too but Andy makes his money to feed his kids by selling
> these songs....
> We all know that Andy does not object to some tapes being
> traded between individuals (he said so) but if you are putting songs
> on a website you are in fact distributing them to the whole world and
> their uncle.

The whole world

1. Aware of the Web site.
2. With a PC, a net connection, a soundcard and the necessary software
setup and working.

Quite a difference.  It is merely a more efficient and sensible method
of "trading". If Andy wished to make money off these would he not
attempt to make these available to fans in some way?

> > Someone that talks to him should
> > ask...I will remove them if he doesn't like it.  From what I have
> > read, I don't think he would mind.
> IMHO maybe you should try to get permission _before_ you do something
> like this... - don't you agree?

Nah, I applaud the guy for actually DOING something constructive.  So
easy to criticize.  Then again, MPEG layer 3 would have been so much
cooler, heh heh....



From: Bob Thomas <>
Subject: I Am Not Worthy But becki is
Date: Mon, 12 May 97 15:31:00 CDT
Message-ID: <>

Hello Chalkhillbillies!

I am compelled to add to the heaping on of praise for ms. diGregorio's
Seven Worthies . . . CD.  Its wonderful -- even if you can't bear
allusions to hippydom.  I think becki would agree that the music derives
from the Bay area psychedelic, but her work achieves a rightful place in
nearing-turn-of-the-century popular tunesmithing with its cross-cultural
ingredients, and deep blues roots.  I hate sounding like a music

I was reminded of the Jefferson Airplane.  becki's vocals show the
influence of Grace Slick at times, but I also heard some Lou Ann Barton,
maybe Christine Collister, maybe Syd Straw -- and none of these is quite
right.  becki sings like becki diGregorio and that is really good, man.

The sound also reminded me of the Golden Palominos.  Sort of a
penetrating sound, not tied to any precepts of popular song, but avoiding
none of the licks and tricks and fun that make up rock music.  Every
arrangement seems to me well suited to the song and the songs are very
strong, indeed.  I am in wonder of what she will do with this experience
behind her.

One thing I can assure you, you won't find yourself waiting around for
Dave Gregory to pop up with his groovy bits.  Someone mentioned the
excellent playing by becki, john and the drummer whose name escapes me.
 They're groovy too.

Well, I had to tell you how much I enjoyed (am enjoying) this recording.
 Sorry if I sound like Mr. Marsh or something worse.



Message-Id: <>
From: "Ben Gott" <>
Subject: Everything
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:41:58 PDT

Chris Van Valen wrote:
>I had an opportunity to see Verve Pipe last night at Irving Plaza
>NYC...I felt highly ripped off. 

The only reason I bought the album (truth be told) is because it was
produced by Jerry Harrison, who, in my opinion, does a bang-up job on
anything he touches (even though you don't really like that Bogmen CD, Ira.)
I don't mind the studio-produced stuff at all.

Peter Wright at Virgin admitted:
>I really can't get excited about ice cream flavours, Weird Al covers
>loving/loathing BFF etc.

Me neither, but (in the words of Blur), this is a low: twiddling our thumbs;
waitin' for the next XTC album. Chalkhills has certainly undergone a
restructuring since I first joined, but (as I'm learning in psych), it's all
part of the "group building" process. I'm at the stage right now where I've
actually bought the gold discs of "Oranges and Lemons" AND "Skylarking." Sad.

"Dummyhead girl":
>Crash Test Dummies rule the world, the universe, the infinitive, and

Four words: "read the back issues."

>Be well and I am glad to have read the last few chalkhills where
>there was no petty fighting, keep it up.


Now, a question: I was invited to give a graduation speech at my old school
(and the school I've co-taught at for the past four years), and I wondered
if anyone had any suggestions for an excerpt from an XTC song that I could
use in the speech. You know, the usual: going off in the world, new school,


* -----------------------------------------------------------
Ben Gott
I'm a tumbler. I'm a government man.


Message-ID: <31510B652669CF11BA1D00805F38219E022FB66D@DUB-04-MSG>
From: Peter Fitzpatrick <>
Subject: Internet Get Together ? <long>
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:51:00 -0700

An Idea :

I'll be joining a bunch of other folks at the Basingstoke get together
(I'm hesitating to use the word "convention"........) on Saturday May

[I just got off the 'phone with the organiser Mike and he's working
hard. Sounds like everyone there will have a good time]

Here's the deal : using Microsoft NetMeeting 2.0 I can setup video
conferencing and audio conferencing (and also regular typing chat like
IRC). Document and image sharing is also possible.

So : people in Basingstoke can communicate with people around the world.
Sounds like fun eh ?

Thanks to Ed Miller who suggested this to me a few weeks ago - hopefully
we'll be able to work together on this.

Here's what *I* will do :
I'll setup a Connectix QuickCam (Colour) and a microphone at the
I'll dial up and get an internet connection happening.
 From there I'll log into a Netmeeting server (to be named at a later
date) and allow others to come and view/listen to the Basingstoke
While this is going on we can chat-by-type or share
You don't need a video camera or even a sound card...

Here's what *you'll* need to do :
go to and download the software
(it's free).
Try out the software, learn how it works (if *I* can use it....anyone
can use it).
There are some pages where you can get info ( is

Then : watch Chalkhills over the next couple of weeks. I'll post server
information and when it comes to the 24th of May you can log-on and join

Some disclaimers :
yes, I work for Microsoft. yes, this is Microsoft software I'm
suggesting that you use. yes, there are no doubt other types of
software. no, it probably doesn't work for Mac,Unix,BBC Micro.
But : it's all I know how to use. I haven't been able to get CuSeeMe to
If anyone can suggest to me (by private mail please, not the list) a
better way of doing this and is prepared to help set it up then by all
means contact me.
But please don't give me a hard time because of where I work or that I'm
suggesting the use of MS software. We have better things to talk about
(like the buzz on the 24th in Basingstoke !)

Mail me privately if you think you can be of more help. (like - can
anyone setup an ILS server for the day ? can get me direct modem
connection to it ?)



Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 13:47:30 -0700 (PDT)
Message-Id: <v01510100af9cc9d6532a@[]>
From: (Mitch Friedman)
Subject: ice ice maybes

Eat a Pumpkinhead
Delectable Street
Making Pecans for Nigel (this one was Andy's idea)
Parfait for a Rainy Day
That's Really Super, Scoopergirl
Pear Trio
Vanishing Swirl
Seagulls IceCreaming


Message-ID: <>
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 17:48:20 -0500
From: Brian Matthews <>
Organization: Ringling Multimedia Corporation
Subject: Mayo, mo' MIDI & TOP XTC


Yuk... mayo-flavored ice cream?!?
I did think of a few others (my apologies to all if these have been
thought of - I don't remember seeing them):
	English Settlemint
	Sgt. Rocky Road
	Smokeless Cone
	Flavors Of London

Still lookin' for more XTC MIDI feedback (thanks to the two of you who
have responded - you know who you are).

Favorite XTC album (if you care): 'English Settlement', hands down. But
they all rate.

Type at ya later.


Message-ID: <>
From: "Sherwood, Harrison" <>
Subject: The Malarians/Here's Another Clue For You All
Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 18:12:34 -0400

In Chorkhills #3-111, "Christopher R. Coolidge" in his learned article
"distinct and good harmonies," made one small yet niggling error of

>> The Malarians- 80's retro pop group including listmember Harrsion
>> Sherwood. Couldn't resist. Harmonies are a little off key sometimes, but
>> hey, it's tough work balancing five distinct voices that could each front
>> a band themselves.

Oh dear oh dear oh dearie me dear dear....Much as I would love to be
able to claim membership in Central Massachussetts' finest
turtleneck-and-hornrims raver bands from the mid-Eighties (whose lead
singer, it is no coincidence to note, bore an astonishing resemblance
to Austin Powers), alas it cannot be.The Malarian in the family is my
brother Bob, also an occasional Chalkster, and now tearing up San
Diego's tiny-yet-unspeakably-crusty nightclub circuit with
mandatory-sterilization advocates and phlegm-rockers Fiction
Damage. He plays the bass, sings, and hurts himself. We're all so
proud.Me, I'm just some guy. And my harmonies are pretty often off-key
too--but as you say, "it's tough work balancing five distinct voices
that could each front a band themselves."A friend who lives in the
country writes:

>>  ABout XTC's use of drugs, again I tell you that at the end of
>>  Skylarking the band thanks this guy STU "for the CACTII" that is very
>>  likely a reference to peyote buttons, the flower of a cactus that
>>  grows in the southwest. The lyrics for 1000 umbrellas are pretty
>>  trippy with stuff crawling wallpaper and stuff.  The there is hookah
>>  with my senses bubbled from then she appeared (hookah is a huge
>>  contraption used to smoke hashish) as well as other references that
>>  don't come to mind.

There are contributors to Chalkhills who have regular, face-to-face
dealings with the members of XTC. Would some of you folks step forward
and present a full report on your impressions of Mr. Partridge et
al.'s daily peyote button intake?  Peter Fitzpatrick, in your
interview with Andy in his shed, did you notice any signs of runaway
dope consumption? Dilated pupils, nervousness, snot on shirt, tendency
to shriek at hallucinations? Any hookahs on display? Mitch Friedman,
anything to add? Andy ever ask you to pop down to the corner emporium
and snag a couple thousand mikes of Windowpane?

I don't want to go too far in the howls-of-derision department, but it
strikes me that it's not...entirely...impossible to occasionally indulge
in druggy humor and surrealistic imagery without a concomitant
indulgence in drugs. As an unapologetic former Drug Fiend with fond
memories of two-day armchair extravaganzas (a _long_ time ago, folx!) I
can personally testify that you don't actually need pharmaceutical aids
to giggle insanely at Edward Lear or Spike Jones or the Goons or Frank
Zappa--all of whom, it strikes me, are _way_ druggier than anything XTC
has ever put out, and all of whom were completely straight (AFAIK,

XTC isn't a drug band. XTC is to drug culture what aspirin is to a

But speaking of woeful overinterpretation of lyrics, I suppose it
wouldn't be particularly difficult to make a case based solely on
internal lyrical evidence and liner-note ramblings that Andy Partridge
died in 1966 and was replaced by William Campbell, a lookalike actor.
Come to think of it, I'm warming to the idea--what we really need here
on Chalkhills is an Andy Is Dead brouhaha, to lift us out of our petty
backbiting and angst-engendered doldrums:

Drowning here in Summer's Cauldron Under mats of flower lava Please
don't pull me out this is how I would want to go

Hop to, let us know what you come up with! We'll be waiting! Way over
Oh, and Amanda, I _hate_ to be the one to break it to you, dearie, but
Dave Gregory is as gay as a French trombone. I'm really surprised
nobody's told you this.
Harrison "Maybe he's not, come to think of it" Sherwood


Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 22:11:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Notarian <apn@UDel.Edu>
Subject: Terry Chambers?
Message-ID: <>

I read on the Sugarplastic Web Site today, I noticed that they have a new
drummer -- a certain TERRY CHAMBERS..  I thought, "No, he's surely being a
recluse off in Australia, or something like that."  I wrote to the author
of the web page and wrote back, saying he doesn't know if this Terry
Chambers is the one from XTC, but that he does think he was in a band
called Dragon (or something similar).  Well, at least it's not a joke on
the webmaster's part, perhaps the Sugarplastic themselves?  I mean, Terry
Chambers isn't exactly a common American name...


Message-ID: <>
From: "Witter, Karl F" <>
Subject: This IS my day job!
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:22:58 -0400

>[G Marrs] Any other performers out there who work in XTC tunes?
>...I'd like to hear which tunes you've worked up...

[I tried e-ing you direct, but my system spit the bit, so I pared
down the note and am posting here.] I'm not a performer, but I do
play the guitar and sing a bit, and have noticed Chalkhills' high
musician-per-capita ratio.

Doing XTC songs is more of a gestalt thing than being able to match
the band's ability. Take away the virtuoso playing and you have a
solid song that holds together under dire circumstances. This is
noted by anyone who's heard my imitations of "Love on a Farmboy's
Wages" (acoustic) and "Earn Enough for Us" (electric) ;-).

Others I've done in pieces but am still "polishing": "Great Fire",
"Senses Working Overtime", "Peter Pumpkinhead", "Mayor of
Simpleton", and gobs of "Skylarking".

Plus, I've got this crazy idea in my head of picking up an accordion
for "All You Pretty Girls", "Seagulls Screaming Kiss Her, Kiss Her",
and "Bungalow". Is there an accordionist in the house?

The stars are laughing at us,


Subject: Andy & Stephen Duffy
From: (Wesley H. Wilson)
Message-Id: <>
Date: Tue, 13 May 97 10:05:18 -0400

I received an issue of "The Ups and Downs" last week. This is the fanzine
for Stephen Duffy and The Lilac Time (TLT). In each issue, Stephen writes a
short note to his fans; this time around he does mention working with
Andy. I can't wait for this collaboration. As many of you know, Stephen and
Andy worked together before on TLT's "And Love for All" with excellent
results. There is no mention of an album release date, but Stephen should be
"due" shortly. (He tends to put out records every two years.)

Speaking of Jason Falkner, a few weeks ago I "sold" a Jason Falkner CD to
someone browsing in a CD store! He and a friend were buying "Fountains of
Wayne" and I said, "I own that!" We talked for a little while about that,
and then I told the guy how great I though JF's "Presents Author Unknown"
is. He ended up getting Fountains of Wayne and the JF disks.

Heard a new song from the soon to be released Michael Penn CD. Do my ears
deceive me, or does this stuff actually sound good? Sounded like well
crafted Beatle pop to me. Any MP fans here?

Oh, and in closing I have to ask about the boot CD, "XTC USA 1980." Good
cover artwork for a boot. How's the sound quality?



Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 09:15:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: amanda caryl owens <>
Message-id: <>

But first....responses!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Stormy Monday-I am now bowing down before you, oh mighty one.

Dummyhead Girl-Greetings and salutations. Just don't get TOO enthusiastic
about the Dummies, or else you'll get a torrent of gob hurled at you.

Becki-Coolness! It's a shame today's my last day online till August! :(

I liked Paula Cole before, but now I REALLY like her!

And now, for your very much entertainment,

Marital Status-Single
Age first heard XTC-17.8
First song heard-Making Plans For Nigel
Friends listen to XTC-Yes

But of course, there is no real "average" Chalkhillian, as this breakdown
will tell you.........

Age-The youngest respondent was 16, the oldest was 48. The majority of
people who responded were in the range of mid-20's to early 30's.
Sex-No suprises here, although seven females responded, myself included.
Religion-Again, no suprises at all, but ther were some varied answers: Roman
Catholic, ex Catholic, recovering Catholic, lapsed Catholic (why is that
only associated with Catholicism? Why don't we ever here about a lapsed
Presbyterian or something?), Lutheran, Religious free agent, atheist,
Buddhist, Anglican, spiritual, agnostic, Church of Women, liberal
semi-agnostic, sarcastic, Parsifalian Pietist, Protestant, Episcopalian,
Baptist, Pagan.
Residence-I figured most of us lived in the US, but the rest seemed to live
in various European countries-England, Germany, Spain, the Netherlands,
Italy, as well as New Zealand, Brazil, and Canada.
Preference-Mainly straight (but not narrow, as many of you pointed out).
Marital Status-Most of us are single, as I thought, but 14 who responded
were married, and three are engaged.
Age first heard XTC-The youngest was 12, the oldest, 35.
Friends-Most of you have friends who listen to XTC, only three or four of
you didn't. (Myself included. My friends seem to be stuck in Pearl Jam/Nine
Inch Nails hell.)
Race-This category was questioned by the Angel On My Shoulder, Mark
Strijbos... was it valid? Out of AMANDA curiosity, yes it was! Most of us
are lillywhite, but three of us are of Spanish origin, and Celtic was thrown
in there too.

My brother is standing over my shoulder begging me to go NOW, so I'll have
to close it off right here. I just want to say it's been a helluvatime for
the past few months, I love each and every one of you and I'm going to miss
you all over the summer, good luck with whatever's thrown your way!


Signing off,


Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 11:52:06 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Smoke or *uc*?

Hey, I'm sorry to bring this one back up again....I was kinda not following
the newsetter for a while and now I'm baaaack.

Recently I was listening to Mummer and Great Fire on my home stereo - it's a
relatively new purchase (last december) and heard the infamous alleged
uttering of "fuck".  So, I played it back several times....and loudly...and
I'm almost positive that Colin is saying fuck and not smoke.  You seek, fuck
starts with a "f" sound and smoke does not.  Is that clear enough?

Well, what was the general consesous of the group?  I don't know about the
rest of you tossers, but I'm pretty  damn sure it's "fuck" and not "smoke".

And BTW, IMHO, I like reading what Amanda contributes.  I'm glad to see new
blood.  At least she isn't making all kinds of jackhole religous references
to every lyric ever written by the Fab 3.

Thanks and so long for now....

Dave G.

Quote of the Day:  "Why hate people for their color alone, when once you
really get to know them you'll find there is so many other reasons to think
they're assholes?" -
Dennis Miller


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From: "J. D. SMX" <>
Organization: Access Tucson
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 10:02:04 -0700
Subject: More on Paula Cole

Hello Future Swindonians,

This Paula Cole: if it's who I think it is she used to be Bob
Geldof's girlfriend back in the 80's and I think I have her singing
These Boots Are Made For Walkin' on an old BEF compilation.

Anyway, she's of the XTC era and been around that long; no wonder she
still enjoys listening to them.  Now I'll go home tonight and find
I'm thinking of the wrong person altogether.  That's the trouble of
posting w/out access to your record collection.  L8r,   SMX


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From: "Mark Strijbos" <>
Organization: The Little Lighthouse
Date: Tue, 13 May 1997 20:53:08 +0000
Subject: No Drugs In Our House

Dear Chalkers,

In the last (Amanda?) Digest J. Artecona said:

> About XTC's use of drugs, again I tell you that at the end of
> Skylarking the band thanks this guy STU "for the CACTII" that is very
> likely a reference to peyote buttons, the flower of a cactus that
> grows in the southwest.

Yes, but what does a possible and rather vague reference to
something that might or might not be "drug-related" prove?
The Dukes also sing about doing weed and acid but couldn't that be
because the songs are meant to "date" from the 60's?

I don't want to "spoil the fun" but I really feel we
should take their own words on this and not our opinions, no matter
how groovey or far out we might think XTC are.
Please don't get me wrong:  I'm not anti-drugs; I'm addicted to
smoking pot and have used almost everything in large amounts
- including XTC (MDMA)

But the band has always denied doing  _any_ illegal substance
In the Early Years some of them - Barry(most notably), Colin and
Terry (just once!) - did indeed 'experiment' a bit with speed and
very probably coke but Andy never took anything but his prescribed
Valium because he was scared other drugs could 'clash' with this
medication (very wise of him BTW)

And Dave is diabetic and always had to take his insulin injections of
course; causing the band lots of trouble at Customs Desks all over
the globe!
He never "did" anything illegal and/or dangerous because he's afraid
this might very seriously damage his health.

> The lyrics for 1000 umbrellas are pretty trippy
> with stuff crawling wallpaper and stuff.
I think "Trippy is in the eyes of the beholder" and stuff
Sheer bloody poetry, more likely!

And DUMMYHEAD GIRL (nomen est omen!!!) informed us:

> Crash Test Dummies rule the world, the universe, the infinitive,
> and beyond!
> C.T.D. are the rulers of the rulers forever and ever!
> Brad Roberts rulz! Deal with it, there's no way out!
John, are you still moderating this list?

XTC rules Swindon !!!

Mark Strijbos at The Little Lighthouse

===> Mark's Random XTC Quote <===
I said it doesn't really matter where you part your hair


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