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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 3, Number 101

                  Monday, 21 April 1997

Today's Topics:

                     My Secret Shame
          Colinspeak at the end of "The Loving"
                Oh, to be young again....
                       "Tribute" CD
                  In Defence Of Swindon
                      Lots of things
              A. Partridge reading too much
                  Reply to Penn Question
                        Stupid me
            Three in a row from XTC in Houston
                   Song #1 (The Posies)
             Snipping snipping snipping......
               April is the cruellest month
                     A Dang Adventure
                      Young XTC Fans
                       Introduction
                 Ben to see Been Folds 5
                  BPI Best songs survey
                   Mummer and beyond...
                      Oldest Member
            Totally off topic and unapologetic
              The Kinks and Talking Heads...

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Message-Id: <2.2.32.19970417155420.00692178@popmail.dircon.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:54:20 +0100
From: Simon <nonsuch@dircon.co.uk>
Subject: My Secret Shame

From: Ian C Stewart <stewart@netwalk.com>

>There were no affordable hotels in Swindon last week so we wound up staying
>in the Marriott.  They have a 5-foot model of the Uffington Horse outside
>their entrance; it's sort of spray-painted (or something) into a hill across
>from the front door.

In an effort to unburden my soul of a dark stain I must admit that this note
jolted from me a recollection of deep shame.  In 1986, halfway through
watching Diana Ross make a travesty of Billie Holliday's life on TV, I got
really bored.  An overdose of whimsy caused me to take some white paint and
a brush from the garage and head over to the local golf course where,
hindered by the 1:4 gradient, the pitch-dark and minimal ability, I daubed a
wobbly facsimile of said horse.  It was there for weeks, and my route to
work at that time led right through the golf course so I could see it every
day. Kids, eh? Tch.

During the same period (I was working in the Animal Health dept. of the
Ministry Of Agriculture and was hoplessly in love with my boss) I had to
stamp a whole heap of files with a rubber alphanumeric stamp set (like those
"John Bull" kids printing sets).  Needless to say there was only a
nanosecond's hesitation before I made up an XTC stamp and went mental with
it.  I still see people who work there and they are still finding XTC
stamped all over stuff - I did radiators, ceiling tiles, files, the first
thirty sheets of a toilet roll, the bottom of my colleague's tea mug,
windows, underside of furniture and desks, etc.  The line between vandalism
and self-expression is a fine one, and it's easy to trip very heavily over
it.

If this seems at all manic consider also that I walked to work barefoot and
spent my lunchbreaks sitting _under_ my desk - the whole ordeal of my first
proper responsibility combined with my first overwhelming, aching and wholly
unrequited love seems to have loosened a wheel that year. If "Skylarking"
hadn't come along later that year (right about when I was told that they had
no intention of continuing my employment after the 12 month temporary
contract elapsed) I might have done things I'd be _really_ embarassed about
now.

Any other Chalkies carried out criminal acts in the name of the band?
Anything leading to arrest and/or imprisonment would be good to hear about.

I give a flower to the big fat cop, he take his club and he beat me up,

Simon
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http://www.users.dircon.co.uk/~nonsuch/bungalow.htm
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XTC? Are they still going? Follow me and find out..

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From: jssimmons@mail.biosis.org
Message-Id: <9704178612.AA861288611@mail.biosis.org>
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 97 09:18:10 -0500
Subject: Colinspeak at the end of "The Loving"

     >in the ending part of "The Loving", when there are about six different
     >thigs being sung, what the heck is (Colin, I think) saying? Sounds like
     >"strange trip".......

     I thik the thig being sug is "stand clear!"

     -Jon in Philly

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Message-ID: <c=US%a=_%p=Raymond_James_Co%l=MAIL-970417164552Z-4826@mail.rjconsult.com>
From: Ed Miller <emiller@rjconsult.com>
Subject: Oh, to be young again....
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 10:45:52 -0600

Amanda wrote in her last post....
-------
It was a nice day, had the windows open, I had English Settlement
blaring very loudly whilst I cleaned my room, and the next-door
neighbors threatened to call the cops if I didn't "Turn that shit off".
(Funny, Yacht Dance was the song that was blaring when I received said
threat.)
-------

It seems that each spring something happens that reminds me of
springtime in college.  I always loved that period between mid-terms and
finals when spring hit, the shorts and t-shirts came out and the
springtime stereo wars began!!!  When I was in school back in the olden
days, the album "Brothers and Sisters" by the Allman Bros. was popular
with the open window crowd.  I, personally, was not a big Allman
Brothers fan and took to playing "21st Century Schizoid Man" by King
Crimson at window rattling volume levels.  I never actually had someone
react as harshly as Amanda's neighbors, but I did have several people
ask "How can you listen to that sh..??"  Wish we had XTC back then......

Best wishes to all.......
ed miller

PS... Check out my web page at-
www.cyberramp.net/~edmiller
It's a little slow loading the pix, so you may want to plan in advance.
A weekend trip might be about right!!!  See ya...

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Message-Id: <c=US%a=_%p=Barnes_?_Noble_I%l=MSENY1-970417195049Z-3344@mseny1.BN.COM>
From: Greg Marrs <GMarrs@bn.com>
Subject: "Tribute" CD
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 15:50:49 -0400

I'm fairly new to this group, so if this is a well thrashed out subject,
forgive me.

Last year I had the misfortune of hearing a really miserable XTC
"tribute" disc (recently, all tribute discs I stumbled across have been
unbelievably uninspired whimperings, pale imitations instead of vibrant
re-interpretations-- but that is perhaps another topic).  Does anyone
out there in the Chalkland Isles know what this was about? Happily, only
two tracks stuck in my head -- Joe Jackson's Statue of Liberty
(passable...only just), and the Rembrants' obligatory Nigel (why oh why
did they do such a slavish track?  They sound like Alvin and the
Chipmunks doing Karaoke).  Can you spell Blecchhh?

Someone told me that this was done to generate royalties for the group.
Any confirmation on that? Did it work?  If they're starving, I'd much
rather send'em a care package.  They can't have appreciated the musical
gist of that gesture.

On a happier note -- I've seen mention in these notices of XTC
videos...where can these be had?

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Message-ID: <MAPI.Id.0016.007269616e2e43613937314630303030@MAPI.to.RFC822>
From: Brian Carter <Brian.Carter@btinternet.com>
Subject: In Defence Of Swindon
Date: Thu, 17 Apr 97 22:44:47 +0100 ( + )

I am afraid it is time for Ian C Stewart to put on his asbestos
suit, because I cannot let his criticisms of Swindon go unflamed.

I'm sorry mate, but judging by what you missed, you clearly didn't
do your homework did you?

>>Seems like most UK natives think Swindon is the kind of place one
>>should avoid at all costs

I would be the first to admit that Swindon would not be very high
on a list of "must see" tourist destinations for overseas visitors
to the UK. However, it is unfair and misleading to say that Swindon
is considered somewhere to "avoid at all costs". How many people
saying that have never been here?

The point needs to be made about Swindon that it is an ordinary
(some would say typical) English town. It has never claimed to be
anything else. It does not have the tourist attractions to compete
with London or Bath or Stratford-upon-Avon, but whilst the "good"
bits might not seem that good, it must also be said that the "bad"
bits are not bad either - which makes it a pretty good place to
live.

>>I can tell you that it's not exactly packed with history.

Oh dear, oh dear. I don't know what sort of history you were
looking for, but you couldn't have looked very far. The history in
the town of Swindon itself is mainly Victorian (because the town
grew rapidly from 1843 onwards), but that history is of the highest
standard. The Swindon railway works was once the largest and most
highly respected railway workshops in the world. A large part of
the Victorian town which grew up around the works can still be
found, and there is much to illustrate the effects of the
Industrial Revolution, the impact of the coming of the railways,
and general Victorian life. Did you visit the museum NEXT DOOR to
the Railway Museum? Probably not.

For more varied history, then you couldn't do any better than to
chose Swindon as your base. Avebury, Silbury Hill, Stonehenge,
Oxford, Bath, Bristol, Marlborough, Cirencester, the Cotswolds,
even Uffington White Horse - covering EVERY period of history - are
all within 45 minutes drive. What more history could you possibly
want?

>>And scenery... forget about it.

Oh come on, be fair! Hands up anyone who can think of ONE single
large town or city ANYWHERE that does have "scenery". Towns, by
definition, aren't scenery, they're towns! In Swindon, its easy to
find the very best scenery. Simply drive from the centre of the
town (in ANY direction) for 15 minutes, and you can find whatever
you're looking for.

>>go to see the Queen's Tap right across from the train station

No, No, NO! If you want a real British pub, selling real British
beer (ie NOT from a fridge), then I'll give you a list of a hundred
better pubs to go to.

>>find Ermine Street on a map

You won't find "Ermine Street" on any map of Swindon. It's "Ermin
Street". There's only one "e" for goodness sake - the sleeve is
wrong! Swindon's Ermin Street DOESN'T HAVE AN "E" AT THE END!

>>If you, like me, can't make it out to Uffington proper....

You mean you didn't go to see the horse? Shame on you. It really is
worth the trip. It's only about 10 miles from Swindon, and you
would have found some of that scenery you were looking for. Anyway,
if you travelled by train from London, then you could have seen the
horse from the train if you had only looked out of the window.

>>We stayed in the Acton Barnes Suite.  If I ever get around to
>>writing an action novel, the lead character will be called Acton
>>Barnes.

It would be better to call him "Alton Barnes", as that's what it is
- a small village south of Swindon, near Marlborough.

>>And dammit, I ALWAYS forget to take my copy of "The Big Express"
>>with me to the GWR Museum. I probably spent half an hour
>>videotaping the wrong damn engine.

You know what's coming, don't you?... Sorry. You WERE videotaping
the wrong one. The locomotive from the inner sleeve of "The Big
Express" doesn't live in the Railway Museum anymore. Just to rub
salt into the wound: it usually lives in York, but it is back in
Swindon temporarily - 10 minutes walk from the Railway Museum.

OK, I'm sorry. I really am. I admit that I've been much too harsh
on Ian.

I didn't mean to offend, and I don't think you really deserved it
Ian, but if I don't defend my hometown, then who will?

....."Wacky accent" - what DOES he mean?
Brian Carter
Swindon, Wiltshire, United Kingdom
brian.carter@btinternet.com

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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 16:33:09 -0700
Subject: Lots of things
Message-ID: <19970417.163313.9134.1.GTR80@juno.com>
From: gtr80@juno.com (Gerardo Tellez)

>Mark, I'm *39* dude.  Check this out:  I saw XTC in concert before you
>was
>born, son!

AGH!!!!! Lucky punk. I'm 16v also and never got to see XTC in concert.
Then again, what is all this talk about a 98 world tour? Are they really
planning one? What about Andy's stage freight? One other thing, has
anyone heard anything new about the XTC stuff that is supposedly
happening on the Microsoft Network in May? If they are doing something,
i'm subscribing. After all, they do give you a month free (hehe). If
Microsoft thinks i'm going to actually pay for their service, then they
can kiss my ass. I love my AOL and going to stick with it.
Gerardo

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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 18:35:36 +0100 (BST)
From: "H.Davies" <H.Davies@law.hull.ac.uk>
Subject: A. Partridge reading too much
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970417181533.16588B-100000@humus2.ucc.hull.ac.uk>

I recently got the book "The New Book of Rock Lists" by Dave Marsh
and James Bernard and there is something in it that annoys me. Andy
Partridge is listed under the list of 'Rockers Who Should Read
Fewer Books' and there is the comment: "To take a break, and just
to remind yourself that you're a real guy, not a fictional conceit.
(You are, aren't you?)" Is this a fair comment? Andy may try to be a
bit clever sometimes, but I don't think he overdoes it. What's wrong
with trying to bring a bit of intelligence to pop music anyway? Ray
Davies, Elvis Costello and Robert Fripp are also listed, by the way.

This may be a bit off-topic, but I have just got hold of the new
Nick Heyward single 'Today' to review for my University's student
newspaper. I have to say it's a big disappointment. I was expecting
something along the lines of the song 'Kite', but I think he's trying
to sound like Oasis or something like that. Maybe it's because he's
on Creation Records now.

Huw Davies

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Message-Id: <v03102800af7ca531760a@[206.112.194.154]>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 00:28:19 -0400
From: arthur james virgin <audio@one.net>
Subject: Reply to Penn Question

artsy@sprynet.com wrote:

>**Does anyone know whatever happened to the new Michael Penn CD???  It was
>supposed to come out a month or two ago, right?  After spending all the time
>moving, packing/unpacking, etc. I lost track of the whole deal, but all I
>know is, it isn't in stores anywhere.

	I met Brendan O'Brien in june of last year.  He told me the album
was almost finished then (just putting the final touches on the mix).  It
was slated for a November release, but was held back due to release date
wrangling with the distributor for Brendan's 57 records (Sony/Epic, I
believe).

The date has been pushed back several times now and the new target date is
June 3rd (according to Epic).  The name of the new album is "Resigned".
The band consists of Michael, Dan McCarrol (drummer from the "Grays"),
Patrick Warren, and Brendan on bass.  From all accounts I've heard, the
record is cover to cover hooks.    Tasty!

Now back to our regularly scheduled programming,
AJ

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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 1997 22:08:15 -0700
Subject: Stupid me
Message-ID: <19970417.220835.11886.6.GTR80@juno.com>
From: gtr80@juno.com (Gerardo Tellez)

If you read my last post, forgive me. I didn't read the latest issue of
chalkhills before I posted my message. Whoops.
Gerardo

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Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970418062014.0068d37c@pop.mindspring.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 01:20:14 -0500
From: Mark Rushton <rushton@mindspring.com>
Subject: Three in a row from XTC in Houston

Fellow Chalkhillians -

I was blessed at work on Wednesday to be tuned into one of the so-called
"modern rock" stations in Houston.  Over the lunch hour they played "oldies"
- and three-in-a-rows.  Oh, I think they had REM, maybe another band.

Then I heard "Mayor of Simpleton" and I was like whoa!  This is nice.  After
that the big surprise came - "Generals and Majors" (!!!) and I had no idea
how GOOD it sounded on a real radio station in stereo (wimpy-powered college
stations don't count) - it just chugged right along, as crisp and clear as
ever!  Who would know it's a 17 year old song?  Then, unfortunately, it was
rounded out with "Dear God", which really didn't fit the set -  I was hoping
for "Senses Working Overtime" or "Making Plans for Nigel" - oh well, that's
commercial radio for ya!

*s*h*a*m*e*l*e*s*s**a*d*
Visit the Bill Nelson/Be Bop Deluxe web site at
http://soli.inav.net/~rushton/nelson.html
*s*h*a*m*e*l*e*s*s**a*d*

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Message-ID: <3356B183.12B@stad.dsl.nl>
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 01:25:55 +0200
From: "Paul 't Lam" <paultlam@stad.dsl.nl>
Organization: prive
Subject: Song #1 (The Posies)

For those interested in XTC-inspired songs. Listen to 'Song #1' of The
Posies (on their cd 'Amazing Disgrace'); especially the part where they
sing:
'Yes, I understand you're happy now
And I understand your hand-me-down towel'

By the way 'Will you ever ease your mind?', also sounds a bit like XTC.

If you disagree just listen to this record: it's really super super.....

Greetings,

Paul

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Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 08:25:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: AMANDA CARYL OWENS <ACOEA@jazz.ucc.uno.edu>
Subject: Snipping snipping snipping......
Message-id: <01IHUE9CI9448XNWE7@jazz.ucc.uno.edu>

Another witless entre', but I'm wired on SURGE right now, so forgive me....

THE USUAL: RESPONSES:

Ben-Quotes? Hmmm......Howzabout "I don't think any one time in history is
better than another?" or "Who was it that said 'Hell is other people'? That
was spot on." or you could go for song lyric "Life's like a jigsaw, you
get the straight bits, but there's something missing in the middle." (Or you
could do the firework version, either one is cool.) or if you're in a loving
peace-ish mood, "Soon the whole world will lay down swords and shields for
singing."
That help? PS-Thanks for the words. I'm educated now!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mark-Speak on and speak up!

And to whoever rewrote All of a Sudden to the tune of the recent postings....
THAT WAS FUCKING BRILLIANT.

Jes-You said Fuck! You said FUCK! (And God am I saying it an awful lot!) (For
those of you who are new/have no idea what I'm talking about, the back story
is that last year, when I was new to the list, I used an Andy quote "How
many people can you mindfuck at once?" and a nice sized-stink was caused
over whether or not anyone could come in and shut us down for using profanity.)
So there you have it.

Ciao for now,
Amanda
XTC song of the day-Young Cleopatra
non-XTC song of the day-Virginia Plane-Roxy Music
Je me souviens du soleil

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Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 11:10:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Natalie Jane Jacobs <gnat@umich.edu>
Subject: April is the cruellest month
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.970418103955.22944A-100000@stargate.rs.itd.umich.edu>

Hey kiddies -

To jes, who liketh not conspiracy theories:  BACK AND TO THE LEFT!  BACK
AND TO THE LEFT!  :)

Someone mentioned a couple of issues back that they thought Mummer was a
winter album.  To which I say: Au contraire, mon frere!  To me, Mummer is
a spring album - early spring, like March or April.  The delicate beauty
of Love on a Farmboy's Wages and Ladybird, the gusts of March gales in Me
and the Wind, and the buoyant celebration of life-in-death of In Loving
Memory of a Name all say "spring" to me.  But maybe that's just me.

By the way, I don't think there's nearly enough shouting about Ladybird or
Me and the Wind on this list, so - THEY'RE GREAT SONGS!

(Sorry for all the screaming.)

Wesley Wilson says,

>In the meantime my speakers have been
>sounding out "Odelay" by Beck (WHY do I like this guy's stuff? It flies
>in the face of all my pop sensibilities, but the guy is so eclectic)

You like him 'cos he's brilliant.  Simple.  As for pop sensibilities, Mr.
Hansen was copiously gifted with them.  I dare you to get "The New
Pollution" out of your head.

I'd like to declare myself the only person on this list who hates the Ben
Folds Five.  There.  I've done it.  I've said it.  Oh, it's sad to be all
alone...

Natalie Jacobs
Perdix: The Andy Partridge Appreciation Page
He's animal and panicking.
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gnat/perdix.html

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Message-Id: <01BC4BE2.BFFDBAA0@ttruner.cs.mci.com>
From: Trent Turner <trent.turner@mci.com>
Subject: A Dang Adventure
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 10:24:43 -0600

Well, us Colorado Springs Chalkabillies got together for a nice lunch at our
local Vietnamese/Chinese restaurant.

Included were:
The old Man - Jeff Langr
Our boy from New Mexico - DeWitt Henderson
An X-Chalkhiller - Delvin Neugenberger
Your humble narrator - Trent Turner

The discussion ranged all over the music scene.  It was interesting that
while there were many groups discussed, at least one other person knew of
the band, even when it came to relatively obscure groups like "Insect
Surfers".

A demo tape including: The Green Man, Dame Fortune, Knights in Shining
Karma, etc. was made available to the group and all are currently enjoying
that, in lieu of official releases.

It was a good time had by all and we will probably meet again.  If there are
any folks in Colorado Springs who would like to join us next time, e-mail me
and I will include you in the group.

BTW, it seems 1957 was a very GOOD year for Chalkhillians.  At least two of
us at the table will turn 40 this year, and I notice a lot of references to
39 in the list.

Thanks,
Trent Turner
800-427-0783  voice, fax, page

Is this a great time, or what? ;-)

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Date: Fri, 18 Apr 97 11:05:33 CDT
Message-ID: <vines.pL06+qTtJnA@bangate.compaq.com>
From: "james dupuy" <James=Dupuy%SPD=Mainstream%Sys=Hou@bangate.compaq.com>
Subject: Young XTC Fans

Hello Chalkies,

	I am new to this mail list but have been reading the postings on the
web site. I have to say this is an interesting crowd. I would not have
believed that teenagers would listen to XTC if it were not for the e-mails
that have been sent in. The cognitive dissonance that I am experiencing has
prompted me to submit this survey directed toward the younger XTC fans (the
elderly can respond also, it should make for interesting reading):

1)How did you become expossed the addictive music of XTC?, and
2)What does XTC do for you that makes you a fan?

For an example:

I started listening to XTC in 1979. (17 then and yes I was one of the
fortunate to see them in Houston, Texas backing up the Police, XTC blew the
Police away!) I was really burned out of the Kansas, Boston, Styx, Journey
stuff that was coninuously being played on Houston (we really need more
alternative radio stations) radio, and XTC (as well as Costello, The Clash,The
Jam, ...) was a god send.
XTC was and still is different. I think they are a very creative band that has
influenced me a great deal. (my band members are concerned, but I am conscious
of the influence) I believe I have all of XTC's albumes,cassettes, and/or CD's
released in America. I never get tired of them and have found, with the
passage of time, songs that I once could'nt stand would become some of my
favorites. (still waiting on Murmer but love the critiques that have been
written in this posting) I don't want to ramble but am very interested in the
younger audiences answers. The teens I seem to run into today are mostly into
rap, ska,  or alternative rock (if they're not having a tear in their beer). I
hardly ever see XTC fans, especially young ones. I will say as a musician
hobbyist that music support in Houston could be better which might explain
... something. (I hope I don't get too many "... LOVE IT OR LEAVE IT, BOY!"
messages because I do love it, enough to express concerns)

sincerly
	Inquiring Old XTC Fan

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From: KdsInThHal@aol.com
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 18:48:53 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <970418184821_-999168629@emout10.mail.aol.com>
Subject: Introduction

Hi chalkies! :)

I'm new here. I'll try to make this short; I read the faq and some back
issues, so that's all good. :)
Well, my XTC story: my fellow tmbg-list friend and Rochesterian, you know him
as JHB <laugh>, made me an XTC tape, several months back, and I finally got
around to subscribing to chalkhills. I've got Nonsuch, Oranges and Lemons,
and Skylarking so far.
What else.... Oh! I'm into They Might Be Giants, Barenaked Ladies, the Kids
in the Hall (main obsession), Odds, Tragically Hip, The State, coffee, Moxy
Fruvous, CBC radio, Seinfeld, MST3K, and hating high school. :) I guess
that's it! :D

sarah:)
linnellgirl@tmbg.org
http://members.aol.com/kdsinthhal/site.html

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Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 20:38:31 -0500 (CDT)
From: The Gottschalks <gotts@tenet.edu>
Subject: Ben to see Been Folds 5
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.91.970418200231.1351B-100000@gaston.tenet.edu>

(Huh huh! Dood play on de words der!)

A Todos los Chaquillos:
The best five dollars I ever spent was to see BFF in San Antonio last
night. I'm sure most of you know how great they are, so I won't get into
this. I'll just say that it was a great concert, the more I think about
it the more I love their music, and the opening band, Komeda, was pretty
awesome as well. (Actually, BFF are more than pretty awesome, but you
know...)

I have heard some of you mention wearing your Chalkhills t-shirts. Is
there a way I can get ahold of one of these?, and what do they look like?
Also, how do you pronounce Roches? Not that this matters very much, but
it's slowly burning a small hole through my chest. I guess that it's
pronounced "rokes." Am I right?

That's all for now. I like private email from anyone. (even though I have
three mailing lists to keep up with)
-Mark
gotts@tenet.edu

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From: CrouchEnd@aol.com
Date: Fri, 18 Apr 1997 22:33:55 -0400 (EDT)
Message-ID: <970418223354_-1602008397@emout01.mail.aol.com>
Subject: BPI Best songs survey

Andy Partridge of XTC

``Autumn Almanac'' by <A HREF="http://www.inetbiz.com/blackmon/">Ray Davies

It's a miniature movie, basically, that unravels itself as you're listening
to it, and it has all these little movements or scenes. And they all seem to
take place in some mythical cozy London, the kind of mythical cozy London
that the Ealing studios always had in their films, like ``Passport to
Pimlico'' or ``The Lavender Hill Mob.'' The song just keeps turning and
changing; you see a new facet every few seconds. The lyrics are very
everyday. There's no ``calling occupants of interplanetary craft'' in it. All
the language in it is what you'd say over a cup of tea. It's like a
rollercoaster, but it's not a high-speed chromium-plated space-age
rollercoaster - it's this slow creaking wooden baroque kind of rollercoaster.

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 00:59:21 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <199704190459.AAA28114@cyber1.servtech.com>
From: Joshua Hall-Bachner <particle@servtech.com>
Subject: Mummer and beyond...

>And Josh, hope you're back to speed. Appendix surgery's a bitch.

I'm amazed at how, well, painless certainly isn't the right word, but easy
the whole thing's been. I was out of the hospital in less than a week, and
three weeks later I'm fit as a fiddle. The hospital stay was also about as
good as could be expected, but having a family member who's on staff and
people who can sneak in *real* food helps a lot...

>My Response: I remember John Lennon say in an interview that the last true
>Lennon/McCartney song collaboration was "We Can Work It Out" which was a
>McCartney song but where John wrote the bridge

The opposite was true of "A Day In The Life" -- John wrote the body, Paul
the bridge.

BTW, Disc 1 is most excellent. Disc 2 founders a little but has enough
winners to keep it up. Where would we ever be without "While My Guitar...,"
"Dear Prudence," "Blackbird," "Revolution 9" et al? Now, Sgt. Pepper,
*there's* an overrated album for you. (Ack! <duck>)

>Finally got a tape of the 'recent demos', and GEE-ZEUS! they're terrific.

<IMHO>
The '95 demos are very possibly the best material Andy has ever written.
>From RGtG '95 (River of Orchids) to the tragic love song Andy's been trying
to write for 19 years (I Can't Own Her) a truly amazing set of recordings. I
can't wait to see what happens when Colin and Dave get their hands on
them...
</IMHO>

>stop picking on AMANDA, I think it's pretty cool that someone who is 19 is
>into XTC like she is

Then I must be just dripping with hip, eh?

Re: Mummer

My problem with the vocal on "Ladybird" is not Andy's actual singing but the
weird tracking effect that was applied to it, which makes it always sound
just a bit out of synch with the rest of the song... As for the rest of the
album: my comments on Wonderland are just a symptom of what I see as a
problem with much of the album, in that it's supposed to be very pastoral
but on the whole has a very "synthetic" sound. Perhaps this is only the
production, but that can make or break the album... as I said also, there is
no one song that I would rate as "extraordinary." Wonderland, DUFtE, Human
Alchemy, and FPAR I might even rank as "sub-par." My only defense is that I
find the melodies less than captivating and don't find anything to improve
that in the lyrics.

>Yeah, I'm sure lots of you saw the Great Ones when I was a mere infant,
>sperm, or nonexistant.

Am I, indeed, the youngest person on the list? (Or just the youngest
outspoken one?) How old *are* you, Mark?

>I have been a subscriber for chalkhills for awhile, and i've noticed that
>no one has mentioned The Dubbed Experiments. Doesn't anyone here have
>that CD? I bet someone does.

I've got it, but I'm willing to admit that the only reason I do is because I
found a used copy for $8 plus tax (if you think I'd pay $22+ for it, you're
crazy!) It's, um, unique. Nice in it's own way, although, I gotta say, for
that genre I like "Somnabulist" better.

Sorry for pulling a me and writing so much but, um, I've been gone for a
week.

Josh
Life is very short and there's no time for fussing and fighting my friend
(oops, wrong band!)

/-------------Joshua Hall-Bachner-------------Chaos Harlequin-------------\
|     particle@servtech.com    http://www.servtech.com/public/particle/   |
|"We all have our idiosyncracies -- maybe thinning hair, or gum disease." |
\---- Kowanko, "Will You Come To?" ------ Thank You, And Goodnight. ------/

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Date: Thu, 17 Apr 97 03:17:42 UT
From: "William Hearne" <LHearne@msn.com>
Message-Id: <UPMAIL14.199704190451240380@msn.com>
Subject: Oldest Member

Chalks:

I was prompted to write in response to the 16-year old who wanted to know
the oldest member.  I may not be the oldest, but I'm 40.  I've been
listening to XTC since Drums & Wires was released.  I "discovered" XTC
through my love for King Crimson.  In an interview of Bill Bruford in an old
Trouser Press magazine, Bruford said one of his favorite (then) current
bands was XTC, so I naturally went out and bought Drums & Wires (with the
bonus EP of Limelight +2 others) included.  I sure wish I still had that
vinyl!

Speaking of Krimson, I saw Fripp mentioned in connection with the Roches'
"Hammond Song."  Hammond refers to Hammond Louisiana, about 45 minutes from
LSU, my alma mater.  (I have never seen XTC or the Roches, but I caught
Krimson on Halloween, 1995 - mesmerized the entire show).

I have a comment to add to the Mummer debate.  My opinion is that most of
the songs are strong, and agree that the production is lacking.  My
unconfirmed theory about the deficiencies of Mummer are that they are
related not only to the production, but also to the engineering.  I think
the recording is weak.  Mummer was recorded at The manor, but the engineer
is not listed in the credits.  English Settlement, a much stronger album,
was also recorded at The manor, but the engineer (and producer) was Padgham,
who also engineered Black Sea.  Both of those albums "sound" better to me
than Mummer.

So Long.
Lake

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Date: Sat, 19 Apr 1997 18:28:20 +0800 (CST)
From: Don Rogalski <tonikuo@ms10.hinet.net>
Subject: Totally off topic and unapologetic
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.970419181506.14474B-100000@ms10>

Chalkhills people:

I unlurk here with a sudden desire to know if anyone loving XTC also had
a deep experience with THE JAZZ BUTCHER?  I know I did, and saw them play
Winnipeg many years ago, when they had a song out called "Mr. Odd" in
which the word "Winnipeg" was mentioned.

What?  Winnipeg?  I'm sure Amanda will be curious about my connections to
the fabled city.  I don't confess to being a fan of the Crash Test
Dummies, but I did graduate from the same university as Brad Roberts.  My
best friend Bryan, however, used to hang out at the even more fabled Blue
Note Cafe on Main St and regularly saw them doing their Celtic thing.
(Incidentally, this is the same Blue Note Cafe in which I and thirty
other people saw Neil Young jamming after hours with CTD's harmonica
player -- this night was the inspiration for his "Blue Notes" album).

I'm a shameless name-dropper, I know.  My friends Andy and Colin hate it
when I'm like this.

Your'n

Don

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From: kekkone@sci.fi
Message-ID: <3359EB6E.3E39@sci.fi>
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 1997 03:09:50 -0700
Subject: The Kinks and Talking Heads...

Martin Monkman wrote:
>"In Loving Memory of a Name" is the only pop song I know of that deals
>with a cemetery with the exception of "Eleanor Rigby"

"Some Mother's Son" by the Kinks (on the album "Arthur" which, if I dare
say, is a must for any Chalkie) makes, thematically, a perfect pair with
"In Loving Memory of a Name", and may well have been an influence on
Colin.
Interesting that the Kinks have been brought up quite a lot on this list
lately. I can't really hear much of a musical influence of the Kinks in
XTC; the lyrical/thematical influences are much more obvious.

Ralph DeMarco wrote:
>I was shocked not seeing The Talking Heads.
>I think that they were one of the most original and innovative
>bands of the last twenty years.  (Much like XTC)

Agreed. Have you noticed that "Wonderland" on Mummer is about as Talking
Heads as you can get?
You can easily imagine D. Byrne singing it in lieu of Colin. (Oops. Is
this blasphemy? (smiley))

Later,

kekkone

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