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Subject: Chalkhills Digest #2-87

          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 2, Number 87

                  Friday, 15 March 1996

Today's Topics:

                       Top 10 - 95
                     My Weapon (oops)
                   Testimonial Dessert
                    Beach Boys "Smile"
                     Re: Gormenghast
                       Best of '95
                  Yazbek's 3/13 NYC gig
                    Names for the tape
                  Jellyfish connenction
                  Think I'm going ga-ga
               Give a great big yawn to....
                     drums & wireless
            Thanks, books, congrats, drummers
                      What is music?
                  No, this is not a list
                      Dolby / Leckie
                       Rags & Bones
               Steve Lillywhite..DMB...XTC
               Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-86
                       Ian McNabb.
                   More on XTC guitars
I found a way to give money to Andy and Colin, other stuff
                      Books and XTC
           re:Thanks, books, congrats, drummers
                      Tribute Titles
               Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-86
                  masks/spoons in "Ugly"
              xtc, Barrett and the Beachboys


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Message-Id: <v02130502ad6cfe9a8573@[]>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:56:35 -0500
From: (Arthur James Virgin)
Subject: Top 10 - 95

1995's best:
(1) Radiohead "The Bends": Is there any doubt? Frightingly great songs
with production to match. There is no classification for this incredible
five piece. A must have!

(2) Ben Folds Five "Ben Folds Five": Intoxicating Beatle-esque debut.
A shockingly good sing-along album! Great album from cover to cover. After
this album where do you go next?

(3) Aimee Mann "I'm With Stupid": Available only as an import until
1996, this gem was worth every penny. Excellent songwriter, excellent
songs, excellent production.

(4) Blur "The Great Escape": British powerpop is alive and well. Sure it
sounds a little like that a bad thing???

(5) Finn "Finn": An album not available
in the States by Neil and Tim Finn. All of
the pop sensibility of Crowded House and
half the fat! Gorgeous album, gorgeous

(6) American Music Club "San
Francisco": Eclectic, beautiful and
haunting...Scary good.

(7) Nick Heyward "Tangled": Not
available in the States until 1996 (surprise,
surprise), this fabulous little album grew
on me big time. Superb songwriting.

(8) Bjork "Post": What can you say about this little Icelandic beauty...She
knows how to write em'!

(9) Sing Hollies in Reverse: A surprise album! A Hollies tribute album
with great performances by the Posies, Loud Family, and the production God
Jon Brion.

(10) Tears For Fears "Rhaoul and the Kings of Spain": Another
superb album from Roland. Not as ambitious as "Seeds of Love", but great
(Netscape 2.0 or later ONLY)
"Skylarking is like a summer's day
  baked into one cake" - Andy Partridge


From: 7IHd <>
Message-Id: <>
Subject: My Weapon (oops)
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 00:23:28 +0000 (GMT)

# From: Tobin Munsat <>
# Subject: "My Weapon" guess
# >From: (Erich Sellheim)
# >
# >In "My Weapon", the lyric sheet quotes the last line as "My stinking
# >weapon", which doesn't make too much sense to me.
# >Any suggestions?
# My Secret Weapon?

Er, that'll teach me to answer questions without listening to the song
first... :->

Disregard my previous explanation for the line, since the word is quite
obviously "secret". Sorry folks...

# From:
# Subject:    Oodles of Topix!
# It's worth shelling out extra for UK imports of all XTC albums (on Virgin),
# 'cos they all sound much better than their US counterparts.

Out of interest, can anyone compare the US and UK versions of Oranges &
Lemons for me please? I ask because I have a US copy of that one (because
for some obscure reason it was only available on import at the time), and
I want to know if I'm missing out...

 |_)|_ *|
 |  | )||


Message-Id: <v01510103ad6d246e0dce@[]>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 17:28:33 -0800
From: (Mitch Friedman)
Subject: Somesuch

Hey all,

First of all, I think Chalkhill's Children is a great name for the tribute
tape.  I was toying with I Remember the Song and We Am the Audience, but
they basically suck compared with the one above.

Here are a few tips for entertainment from Andy himself: His favorite
British television program of the last ten years is something called "Vic
Reeves Big Night Out". It is available on Polygram video, but maybe only as
a PAL conversion in some of the finer video stores. The show was on for two
seasons and can only be described by saying that it's like Monty Python
meets David Letterman meets Star Search. It's a completely bizarre and
surreal parody of a variety show and is certainly an acquired taste, like,
hmmm, XTC.

He's also been telling me about a friend of his in NY named Jamie Block and
his band called -- Block. I don't know how they sound, but he won't stop
talking about how much he likes them. He says that a CD will be out soon,
so look for it.

On a related note, Ray Davies will be performing his one-man acoustic show
at the Alcazar Theater in San Francisco from May 1st thru the 5th. Highly
recommended for anyone who likes an evening of humorous stories, nostalgic
reminiscences, and intelligent lyrical British pop genius.

That's all for now.


Message-Id: <>
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 96 21:12:16 EST
Subject: Testimonial Dessert

In bouncing ideas back and forth with my tribute tape collaborator, I keep
coming up with great cover artists for Testimonial Dessert which I will
now share with you all:

Love on a Farmboy's Wages -- Dolly Parton
All of a Sudden (It's too Late) -- Devo
Melt the Guns -- Tom Tom Club or Laurie Anderson

I'll keep you posted as I come up with more.

I think that's all for now except for this:

My Bird Performs is Colin's answer to Pink Thing.

Shakespear's sonnets leave me cold...


Punctuation mark of the day:  the colon


Message-ID: <01BB110A.8D3DBFC0@DIALUP1147.SISNA.COM>
From: Randy Watkins <>
Subject: Beach Boys "Smile"
Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:24:59 -0800

Yeah, I know this isn't a Beach Boys digest (thank God!), but the question
was asked about "Smile", and since this is some of my favourite music, I
thought I'd try to share some info.  I'll try and keep it brief.

After "Pet Sounds" was released in 1966, Brian Wilson set to work on his
next single, "Good Vibrations."  He described it as a "teenage symphony to
God."  The recording of this song is rather famous.  It took several
months, about five different recording studios and hundreds of musicians to
accomplish.  At the end of the sessions, Wilson assembled the dozens of
hours of tapes, took snippets of several, and stitched them together.  It's
really amazing if you listen to it....a cello is used as a
percussion/rhythm instrument!  The song went #1, and the other Beach Boys
toured Europe.  Wilson and his new lyricist, Van Dyke Parks, went to work
on the next Beach Boys album.  He wanted to blow away the Beatles.  He
wanted to record THE greatest album ever made, and end the "great studio
production race" once and for all.  The working title was "Dumb Angel", but
was later changed to "Smile," because the album was supposed to induce
laughter.  (Read:  "Head" album.)  The whole thing was to be recorded in
the "Good Vibrations" mode, except this time the songs themselves would be
the pieces to form the collective whole of the album.  The centerpiece was
to be a song called "Heroes and Villains".  All the other songs would
revolve around (and in some cases, "morph" into) its central musical theme.
Of course, the album was never finished.  After recording several albums
worth of material, Wilson went nutso for a variety of reasons.  The album
was abandoned.  The remaining fragments I consider brilliant pieces of
work.  Brian Wilson could do more with 4 and 8 track recorders back then
than most people today can do with digital technology and/or 72 tracks.

Woops.  That was long, wasn't it?

"Back through the opera glass you see the pit and the pendulum drawn.
Columnated ruins domino." ....Van Dyke Parks/Brian Wilson, from "Smile"


Message-Id: <v01530505ad6d56b9daa5@[]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 16:53:34 +1200
From: (James Dignan)
Subject: Re: Gormenghast

someone (sorry!) quoth:

>I'm sure I read in Melody Maker or NME last year that Andy was working on
>music for a film project based on the Gormenghast novels of Mervyn Peake.
>It turns out that these books are favorites of Neil Finn's.

FYI, they are also listed among Robyn Hitchcock's favourite novels.


James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago.

Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand
pixelphone / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807

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   * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time,
   * from another time                     (Brian Eno)


Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:54:46 -0800 (PST)
From: Mike Wheeler <>
Subject: Best of '95
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960313212257.8993D-100000@ccserver>

Anyway as for the best of 1995. Looking through my CD I was surprised at
how few I have that were released in 1995. Anyway here's what I like:

Gideon Gaye - The High Llamas. Depending on where you live this may have
       been released in 1994, 1995, or 1996. Great album if you like "Pet
       Sounds"/"Smile" era Beach Boys. A lot of people compare it to Steely
       Dan as well, but I don't know Steely Dan well enough to form an
       opinion on that.

Wake Up - The Boo Radleys. Their best album yet. A couple of the tracks
       were released as CD singles and were labelled as "The High llama
       Mix" The head High Llama (Sean O'Hagan, once of MicroDisney)
       remixed them.

(What's The Story) Morning Glory - Oasis. I'm definitely on the Oasis
       side of the marketer's dream battle between them an Blur. Blur
       seems like crap to me. It's like they're striving to be quirky and
       sophisticated when they're just a bunch of idiots.

Orange Crate Art - Brian Wilson/Van Dyke Parks. Definitely not for
       everyone. None of Van Dyke Parks' music is. It's an aquired taste,
       though this is his most "accessible" release to date whatever that

Mike Wheeler


Date: 14 Mar 96 01:57:14 EST
From: Sally Unterman <>
Subject: Yazbek's 3/13 NYC gig
Message-ID: <960314065714_103274.3106_IHH37-3@CompuServe.COM>

Nice to meet all of you. I'm new to this cyberthing, so bear with me while
I wet my delicate feet.  After enjoying Yazbek's "The Laughing Man" for two
months I made the trek in from Staten Island to see his gig at Brownies
tonight.  I'm elated that I was able to see him in such an intimate venue,
because I'm sure that by this time next year he'll be bellowing
"cowabunga!" as he rides the wave of his imminent stardom.  The guy's piano
chops are dazzling, he sings with raucous abandon, and each song is a pop
gem!  Especially enjoyable was an audience participation routine for a new
song called "Schmuck in a Vacuum," which found us chanting "schmuck" (which
I'm told means "penis" in Yiddish) while Yazbek undulated hypnotically ala
Reggie from the Archies!  Thank you Mr.  Yazbek! When's the next one?
Also, does anyone notice the Beach Boys-esqueness of XTC's "Cherry in Your
Tree" from the album "Carmen Sandiego - Out of This World"?  - Sally U.


Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:07:57 +0000 (GMT)
From: William HamBevan <>
Subject: 10cc
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960314083933.16175A-100000@jesus>

Regarding Tom Chao's picking up on the mention of 10cc in the last
digest, I still find it difficult to believe that the band isn't
mentioned more often in connexion with XTC. The first four albums are a
joy from beginning to end for anyone who likes this sort of quirky
Englishness. Unfortunately, they lost the plot a bit after that, but
Sheet Music - which would be my first choice out of the above list - is
an absolute must for XTC fans. Buy it!


William Ham Bevan
Jesus College, Oxford


From: (Jon Eva)
Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 09:30:26 +0000
Subject: Names for the tape

Dear All,

Two suggestions for a title for the tribute tape:

                1) Etc.
                2) Lemons

Perhaps the second is a little unkind.

How about "The White Whores Of Uffington" for an XTC song-covering band?

This has a tenuous, at best, connection to XTC, but did anyone in the UK
hear a band called The Chalk Giants about four or five years ago? They
played in the Reading area, and the cover of their tape had a picture of
that huge man with a club and an erection that's carved out in the hills

As I said, nothing to do with XTC, except for the chalky bit, but I'd like
to know what happened to them as they were very good. One of the only good
things about Reading at the time.


Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:03:03 GMT
Subject: Jellyfish connenction
Message-ID: <>

Melissa wrote:
> On a totally unrelated subject, namely Jellyfish, I'm glad someone else
> brought up the Queen connection!!  That was the first thing I thought of,

I bought 'Spilt Milk' the other day and, although I hear Queen in
there, I think that the Super Tramp influence is even more eveident,
but no-one has mentioned this yet.  Does anyone else agree.  I do
like Jellyfish, but I would recommend many other bands before them to
XTC fans.

Love to everyone,

Dames TWD

(Life is good in the greenhouse:XTC)
(You told me you saw Jesus, but I could only see a tree: Amber)
(If people lived in Heaven, God would break their windows: Damian)


Message-Id: <v01510100ad6d9b92e4e0@[]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:33:14 +0000
From: (Mark Fisher)
Subject: Think I'm going ga-ga

Have I had a humour bypass? First everyone keeps saying that "Dave and
Colin and the Infinite Andy" is a very funny title - why? what does it
refer to? what does it mean? - then I miss the fact that the posting about
the Dukes ripping off Back in the USSR not the Beach Boys was meant to be

Could it be that there's a special kind of XTC fan humour that I just don't
get? Are there any manuals, joke books or web sites that could help me out?
Or am I a lost cause?

[By the way, I second the suggestion of Chalkhill's Children for the title
of the tape tribute]

Mark Fisher (,uk)


Message-Id: <v02110100ad6de16ad1c4@[]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 10:05:39 -0500
From: (Adam J. Ostermann)
Subject: Give a great big yawn to....

On a side note, does anyone here in the States think that the constant
playing of Spacehog's "In the Meantime" could help sales of ^Testimonial

And to finally add something XTC-like in the great lyric debate, I always
thought the Loving's afterthought was "Straight t'ya!" But then again, I
was always under the assumption that Colin sung "Collideascope"....

And thanks to the lovely fellow who posted the XTC Australian promo! I
think I still have that entire broadcast the clips were culled from still
on tape (it was a 120 Minutes 2 hour show back in '92...the commercila
intros and outros all played snippets of OLD XTC videos ("Wonderland,"
"Ball and Chain,") as well as playing "Senses" in its entirety (slow-motion
jumping a-go!)

Unfortuneatly, after a great deal of thought, my only propsed titles for da
Tribute tape are daft (e.g. ^Seagulls Screaming "Tribute, Tribute"^ -ouch!)
Put my vote in for ^Living Through Another Tribute^. And sign me up for a
copy as well.)

Adam J. Ostermann

Adam J. Ostermann (
UW-Madison Journalism major
Entertainment Co-Editor of ^The Badger Herald^,
which you can witness by contacting //


From: Greg Kuchmek <>
Subject: drums & wireless
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 19:49:07 +0000

I just bought the import CD of Drums and Wireless, the BBC sessions '77-'89.
I assume this is not the complete BBC Sessions. Does anyone know if more is
to come? Also, are there more "official" live albums in the vaults and
waiting release? Or are there live CD boots available?


Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 14:20:41 CST
From: "Bernhardt, Todd" <>
Message-Id: <>
Subject: Thanks, books, congrats, drummers


>I might mention I am over 40 and most people my age seem to wax nostalgic
>about the Beach Boys but I never thought they were more than a
>good-time lightweight party group doing music that was usually
>derivitive (to be kind) and even at it's best dull and boring.
>Let me put on my flame-proof suit now...

Thanks for your support, Steven. At least we'll burn together...

From: Anthony Ciarochi <>
>OK, so after many months of research, Orwell writes a novel about the
>unbelievably horrible conditions suffered by a family of Hungarian
>immigrants working in a meat packing plant.  The public outcry is so

Sorry to point this out, Anthony, but that was Sinclair Lewis in "The
Jungle," not George Orwell.  Great book, though.

Kudos to Mr. Relph for sticking to his editorial guns and imposing some
discipline on top-10 postings and other such inquiries. And even though
it's never an end in itself, we love it when you discipline us!  :^)

One last thing -- I spent a lot of time listening to ECostello and the
Attractions last weekend, and I've decided: Pete Thomas HAS to be the
drummer for the next album. Hell, they should ask him to join the band.
He would be perfect.



Message-ID: <>
Organization: 24th Street Exchange
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 96 12:56:14 -0800
Subject: What is music?

This was recently posted in defense of Beach Boys:

>I encourage you naysayers and/or Beach Boy virgins (oops, didn't mean to
>inadvertantly plug a certain nasty record co.) to get past what you've heard
>on the radio (i.e. California Girls, car songs, etc.), get past Mike Love's
>(especially) nasal voice, get past the surf lyrics and dig into their albums.
> Ask most musicians active in 1966, "Good Vibrations" changed the way music
>was recorded.

Let's see, ignore their popular songs, ignore vocals, get past lyrics, and dig
in.  Sheesh!  I don't think so.  There's hardly anything left and what is left
is still just mediocre.  I prefer XTC where I do not have to ignore songs,
vocals, and lyrics.  Thanks anyway! :)


XTC song for the day: When You're Near Me I Have Difficulty


From: Benjamin Woll <>
Message-Id: <>
Subject: No, this is not a list
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 16:07:35 -0500 (EST)

SORRY!!!!!! I had no idea that the response to the top ten postings would
be so great.  Since, in the last issue of Chalkhills I posted my favorite
songs, and I am still curious to read everyone's answers, email them to me
and I will put them together.

John Relph - you do a great job, and nobody should blame you for cutting
out the lists.  In fact, we are all collectively kissing your feet for the
service you provide to all XTC fans.  Cheers, Ben


From: 7IHd <>
Message-Id: <>
Subject: Dolby / Leckie
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 21:25:12 +0000 (GMT)

Anthony Ciarochi <> failed to attribute me as saying:

# >>"Astronauts & Heritics" is one of my all-time favourite records, it
# >> blows me away every time I play it. "The Gate To The Minds Eye
# >>Soundtrack" is almost as good, IMHO.
# Really?  I own A&H, and I just can't seem to get anything from it.  I
# would like to, since Dolby's first two LPs are among my favorite of all time.
# Do you like it better than "...Wireless" and "The Flat Earth"? I can't
# imagine...

Definitely. They're all good, but A&H is the only one that's truly superb.
It leans towards commercial pop whilst remaining original and fresh, and
with lyrics that work on a number of levels... with the exception of "Thats
Why People Fall In Love", I consider it perfect, and even that one has
decent lyrics, I just don't like the tune much.

Oh well. I can't say it's a grower, because I've always liked it. Takes me
back to summer '92 and the last time I actually managed to get a holiday.

How anyone can fail to me moved by "Neon Sisters" or completely blown away
by "Eastern Bloc" is, quite honestly, beyond me. Still, at least we both
like _some_ Thomas Dolby eh?

And on a completely unrelated note: John Leckie. Specifically (and yes, I'm
trying to start a contentious debate), what's the big deal? OK, those albums
he produced for XTC sound great, but I offer the explanation that that's
down to the musicians; I find the production to be flat and uninteresting
compared to later albums, particularly on headphones (which is where such
things really show up). OK so the available technology improved in recent
years, but this can't be the whole story - there are some great late-70s /
early 80s albums which sound far superior to the Leckie-produced XTC albums,

Any views on that? :-)


PS: Who are the Beach Boys?
 |_)|_ *|
 |  | )||


Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 13:35:23 -0800
Message-Id: <>
Subject: Rags & Bones

I'm a Gentle Giant fan.  At least I used to be.  It's been a while...

I could NEVER come up with ten fave albums.  100?  Maybe.

I feel most Beach Boys tune are inane, childish poop.

Pet Sounds is a sonic masterpiece, CONSIDERING THE RELEASE DATE.

Godley & Creme's big video break was Herbie Hancock's Rock It video.

The GIZMO was not a synthesizer but a rotating wheel of plectrums.

The "Cry" video is not morphing but fades.

Surprises from the TOP TEN LISTS:

Mentions of Keith Jarrett, Pink Floyd, Yes

Lack of mentions of Peter Gabriel and Eno.

All are amongst my (100) faves (multiple times)... but I was surprised.

My list of 100 would contain most of mtross, Kevin K, Sean R & Jeffrey L.

I'm (double) spaced out.



Message-Id: <v02130500ad6e4e7d382b@[]>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 17:34:12 -0500
From: (Arthur James Virgin)
Subject: Steve Lillywhite..DMB...XTC

>From: Anthony Ciarochi <>

>I just heard the Dave Matthews Band on Letterman last night for the first
>time.  Damn near blew my socks off!  They were so good!
>Anybody know anything about this group?  I know nothing, except they're
>all over the web.

I bought their album in December 1994 "Under the Table and Dreaming"...I
must say it was probably the best album of 1994 (though it didnt catch fire
till' around March 1995).  The album was produced by ex-XTC producer Steve
Lillywhite..The album production is VERY similar to Oranges and Lemons in
that the timbre's of all the instruments are VERY crisp and bright..The
songs are also VERY good.   They are currently mixing their next
album..Steve Lillywhite produced again.

Hope that helps!

(Netscape 2.0 or later ONLY)
"Skylarking is like a summer's day
  baked into one cake" - Andy Partridge


Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 14:36:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Anthony Ciarochi <>
Subject: Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-86
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960314143005.2874B-100000@nfs1>

Benjamin Woll wrote:

>> Anthony - I agree that our arguments over interpretation have gotten a
>> little tiring, and from your last posting, I think our ideas might be more
>> closely linked than I had previously thought...At any rate, it is fun to
>> have these little back and forths.  I am a big fan of good discussions...

I was just going to post something to you alogn the same lines.  I have
really enjoyed the banter.  There's nothing more monotonous than an
un-armed opponent 8^)

Anthony F. Ciarochi


Message-Id: <>
Date: 14 Mar 96 18:17:00 EST
From: "will heyniger" <>
Subject: Ian McNabb.

First of all I'd like to apologize in advance for again venturing
something woefully off-topic, but I'll try to be brief. A few times
now on the list I've seen Ian McNabb's name mentioned, in particular
an album called "Truth & Beauty." McNabb has always intrigued me --
for me he's always been something of a guilty pleasure, because his
songs are full of the kind of risky overblown sentiment that can
produce one song that's right-on, full of powerful feeling, and then
another that's pure self-inflated schlock. I so loved an Icicle
Works tune called "Hollow Horse," with its cascading Rickenbacker
riffs and surging melody, that I followed the band through one
awful album after another -- "If You Want to Defeat Your Enemy
Sing His Song," "Blind," others, until mercifully they broke up.
And yet my affection for a small number of McNabb tunes remains
so deep that I find myself intrigued to find this solo record...
What a tortured feeling.

Anyway, where the heck is this record? I don't believe it was
released in the U.S. It's turned up on a few "best" lists.
And I thought he was ROBERT Ian McNabb, and went by the nickname
"Boots." What has become of this North English romantic? Thanks.
Unless people feel their posts might be edifying and entertaining
for Chalkhills readers, they might be best advised to write me
directly. Adieu.

P.S. ObXTC: Is this Martin Newell record I keep hearing about
"The Greatest Living Englishman," which is a bit spotty has
plenty of pleasant songs? (It boasts on its cover the participation
of A. Partridge.)


Date: Thu, 14 Mar 1996 22:39:54 -0500
From: Ted Harms <>
Subject: More on XTC guitars
Message-ID: <>

To Simon S. (and others):  I've heard contradicting testimony on which
guitar(s) are used by XTC, specifically with the intro to "Wake Up".  I
can recall Musician magazine doing a piece on the lads several years back
and I'm sure I recall a little paragraph or two where Andy says that him
and Dave purchased almost identical Squire Telecasters and used them for
pretty well the entire album.  Sorry, I can't recall the issue and I gave
all my old issues away so I can't back up my claim with any proof.

But yes, certain passages are jangly enough to sound like a Ric'.  As
well, one picture I remember seeing of Andy is him holding a mid '80's
Yamaha (double cut-away, humbuckers).  Whether it be from processing the
signal through various effects or just a lot of different guitars in the
studio, you gotta admit that XTC doesn't have a 'signature' guitar sound.

(BTW, anybody have any info regarding Colin's bass's; as a fellow bassist
(though not even worthy to have my name mentioned in the same breath as
Colin) I really like the sound he gets, regardless of who's producing -
always a nice even deep tone but still in the foreground.)

Ted Harms                              Library, Univ. of Waterloo                   519.888.4567 x3761
"Should words have two meanings or should words serve the truth?"
   - M. Watt


Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 2:40:43 -0500 (EST)
Message-Id: <960315024043.2021c51d@CEDAR.GOSHEN.EDU>
Subject: I found a way to give money to Andy and Colin, other stuff

In a message I posted earlier I mentioned my college radio show, well
something interesting happened on it yesterday.  I had decided to do an
all-XTC show last night and it just so happened that on the same day my
station manager asked me to write down the artist's names and more
importantly the song writer's for each of the songs.  It had to do with a
survey of College Radio stations to help pay the writer's their royalties.
And so, for almost three hour's I played only XTC and hopefully gave Andy
and Colin quite a boost in revenue.  So if you want to give Andy and Colin
money, either play them on the radio when you can, or request them a lot.

Also, Paul Culnane (I get the name right?) sent part a transcript of part
of an interview done on MTV's 120 minutes.  It just so happens that this
was the interview that first sparked my interest in XTC.  It was
wonderfully done and insightful (at least too a person who had hardly ever
heard of the band).  Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had a full
transscript of that interview, what Paul sent was only a small fraction of
the interview.  I'd love too see the whole thing again.

	I suddenly forgot what the third thing was that I wanted to mention.

Jeff Eby


Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 07:36 -0700 (MST)
From: Miles or Gigi Coleman <>
Subject: Books and XTC
Message-id: <0DOBCK4SF001R3@ACS2.BYU.EDU>

In the last issue (2-86), there were a few comments about books and any
relationship to XTC.  I've got another.  I just finished _Expensive People_
by Joyce Carol Oates.  However, I noticed that under Other Books By JCO it
had _A Garden of Earthly Delights_.  Not having read it I wanted to know if
anyone knows of a connection there?

Miles Coleman


Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 09:13:15 CST
From: "Bernhardt, Todd" <>
Message-Id: <>
Subject: re:Thanks, books, congrats, drummers

>From me:
>Sorry to point this out, Anthony, but that was Sinclair Lewis in "The
>Jungle," not George Orwell.  Great book, though.

    I guess this is the egg on my face that I get for correcting someone
    publicly -- the author of "The Jungle" is Upton Sinclair, not Sinclair

    Sinclair Lewis is, of course, author of "Bobbitt," a story of a man and
    his severed pink thing ... no, wait a minute, he wrote "Babbitt." Maybe
    it was Tolkein who wrote "The Bobbitt," the story of a misogynistic
    dwarf who gets his just desserts ... never mind.



Date: Fri, 15 Mar 96 14:35:50 EST
From: "John Christensen" <>
Message-Id: <9602158269.AA826929878@PO2.VRINET.COM>
Subject: Tribute Titles

Thanks Dames for volunteering to run the tribute tape title vote.
Here are my nominations:

1)  You're the Wish You Are We Had
2)  Covered With Optimism's Flames
3)  The Bull With Chalkhill Guts
4)  Buzzcity Chalking
5)  Chalklines on the Pavement
6)  Chalkhills & Lemons
7)  Covered in Chalk



From: (Steve-O Lutz)
Message-Id: <>
Subject: Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-86
Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 12:06:36 -0800 (PST)

> On the topic of The Loving lyrics, I had a damn good listen to it
> over and over again and although the first word is open to debate
> (either 'straight' or 'stand') the second word defitely has two
> syllables so sounds more like "To-ya" rather than "Clear" so that
> would suggest the phrase is "Straight to ya".

	But consider that the Swindonian accent tends to mangle words such
as clear.  If you pretend you're Colin, and sit around saying "stand
clear" to yourself for a while, it ends up sounding like "stand
clee-yah".  Also, people will think you're a nut case; they'll stand
clear, tho'.

	I think the lyrics tend to support "stand clear" a lot better than
they do "straight to ya".  The rest of the song depicts "The Loving"
as some sort of unstoppable force that makes no distinctions and blasts
right over anyone who might stand in the way.  Or, depending on how
you interpret it,  maybe it's about Idi Amin.

	-- Steve-O


Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 15:37:25 -0500 (EST)
From: kathryn lynne burda <>
Subject: masks/spoons in "Ugly"
Message-ID: <>

Dishes and spoons were terms given to butlers and maids back in the Middle
Ages in Europe (as in "And the dish ran away with the spoon" from the "Hey
Diddle Diddle" nursery rhyme).  I don't know what the archaic definition
of a mask is.


Date: Fri, 15 Mar 1996 17:00:22 -0500
Message-Id: <v01510100ad6e8ce2a9e9@[]>
From: (Paul Brantley)
Subject: xtc, Barrett and the Beachboys

In an old "Contrast" magazine (#7 1990) Andy said: "...A couple of years
back [Colin] got to hear Syd Barrett's solo stuff for the first time, and
he really fell for it. The suddenly 'Grass' came out... He and I literally
discovered the Beach Boys albums a couple of years back. I had never heard
'Smiley Smile'...and we found them together. [Colin] bought 'Pet Sounds'
awhile back and became totally converted...There was a song we didn't do
for O&L called 'The Good Things' that's very Beach Boys...I didn't plan to
make 'Seasons Cycle' Beach Boy-ish....

What I find interesting is the Brian Wilson/Syd Barrett connection -- two
artists almost impossible to talk about because neither one was able to
transcend their "diamond in the rough"  status. Syd Barrett was literally
incapacitated by his mental illness almost as soon as his career began, and
the same could be argued for Brian Wilson. As far as their "influence" on
xtc is concerned, instead of nasal harmonies I hear Brian Wilson's endless
pursuit of a unique sound world paving the way for an "orchestral" xtc; and
in place of nearly incompetent guitar playing, Syd Barrett's love for
language (James Joyce in particular) has only affirmed Colin's own --
Shakespeare sonnets aside.

If you haven't yet, check out "Smiley Smile", a collection of surprisingly
psychedelic/sometimes near-visionary out-takes from an album that was never
to be. And apparently Brian Wilson lost his mind in the process. I
experience the same kind of energy in "Pipers at the Gates of Dawn", The
Pink Floyd (Syd Barrett) album. Some can't stand the beauty.



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