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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 2, Number 78

                Thursday, 29 February 1996

Today's Topics:

            Moulding's Street Plan of Swindon
                        Re: Zappa
          At the risk of sounding pretentious...
                Before and After _NONSUCH_
               Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-77
                  "Pooting" and Politics
                   Andy-Blur connection
               RE: Chalkhills and Children
                Latest from Little Express
                     Black Market XTC
      Roundabouts, Cuba, Babies, Poets and Concepts
                   A Navajo Blanket...
           Tributes and Lyrics and Stuff, Oh My
                    The Tribute is ON!
                   Samples / XTC / WAR?
                      Marketing Men
      Re: Subject: Interpretation on Interpretations


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From: "Anthony Ciarochi" <>
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 23:40:24 +0000
Subject: Twidgets

>> What is a twidget?

er... that which twidges (?).

Actually, Twidget is a somewhat derogatory Naval term for an
Electronics Technician (see related terms: Snipe, Snidget, etc.,
etc.).  I use the term in place of 'Computer Geek' because it sounds
funnier and, yes, almost nobody knows what I'm talking about.

Other favorite terms nobody understands:

Grommet:    a small child (from my days as a skate-boarder)

Kool-aid:     a young man / boy who falls in love with an older,
beautiful woman and, thinking she feels the same, grovels at her
feet, carrying her bags and driving her around town until she gets
bored and dumps his quivering pathetic carcass in the gutter.  My
lead singer goes through a kool-aid about every week.  I  used to
feel sorry for them, but now I get nearly hysterical when I see one
of them tagging after her like a puppy dog.

Pissed:  Drunk.  Yeah, I know you Islanders use it all the time, but
people in America think its pretty funny.

Islanders:  Sorry; people from Great Britain

Butt-Monkey:  ummm, I'm not really sure.  I'm sure I'm not really

BTW, I would like to say that I'm having more fun with this group
than I've had in a long time.  It's quite rejuvenating to be able to
speak my mind, be as sarcastic and silly as I can, and have it
appreciated on that level at least. Even those I've spouted on have actually
responded intelligently, which I respect (as opposed to the usual: "Oh Yeah?"
"Yeah!" "Yeah?" "Yeah!" etc. -- that can be fun, but other readers
get pissed after about a month)

AND FINALLY - since this is supposed to have something to do with
XtC, here's a complete list of songs by them that I could do without:


That's about it... everything else is glandular

Thanx all

Anthony Ciarochi

PS: The latest on my lead singer.  She actually moves in with her latest
kool-aid.  After a week she tells him that her mother is sick and shes
going to visit.  Instead she catches a plane to Montana to join a truck
driver that she met in the bar the night before.  The pair wheel across the
country, winding up in St Louis for Mardi-Gras. Then she comes back home,
shows up on the doorstep WITH THE TRUCKER, and throws the kool-aid out on
his ass.

She's a goddess.


From: (Doug Smith)
Subject: Moulding's Street Plan of Swindon
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 17:33:09 PST

Did you know there is a map in the insert on the GO 2 CD (GEFD-24375) ?
It is actually titled  : "Mouldings Steer Plan of Swindon" ! Check it

It's tiny, but full of interesting things (mentioned in the Key)
such as Ex-place of work, Place of Education, Place of Recreation, Place
of Retribution, Place of Virginity-Loss, Ex Place of Dwelling, Place of
Villainy, Place of Birth, Place of Hallucination, Place of Self Abuse

This is copyright 1978, long before Skylarking, by the way.

But buy it for the music, not the map.


From: Aaron Pastula <>
Subject: Re: Zappa
Date: Wed, 28 Feb 96 17:47:25 PST

> One other thing - can anyone who has Frank Zappa's 'We're Only In It For
> The Money' explain to me what 'pooting' means? Or 'numies' for that
> matter. I assume this is US scatological slang.

Well, here's the somewhat disgusting answer:  To "Poot" is, how you
say in the trade, to the song, Kenny and his brother
"light their poots."  A "numie" is a booger.

I don't know about them being US terms...I also don't know why I'm
sending the answer to a Frank Zappa question to the XTC list...oh
well, deal.



Date: Wed, 28 Feb 1996 21:01:34 -0500 (EST)
From: Natalie Jane Jacobs <>
Subject: At the risk of sounding pretentious...

... I'd like to throw my BA into the ring and join in the comparison of
XTC to the British Romantics, an unruly lot who took up an awful lot of
time in my life a couple of years ago when I was writing my thesis on
Mary Shelley.  I was thinking over the comparisons already cited and
realized that "Skylarking" in particular reminds me a lot of John Clare,
a farm laborer who wrote some fantastic poetry before going mad - and
wrote some fantastic poetry after going mad, as well.  Songs like
"Summer's Cauldron" and "Season Cycle" are especially reminiscent of
Clare's poetry, much of which deals with the pastoral landscape where he
lived and worked.  His mental instability echoes Andy's own, though Andy
never actually went so far as to start thinking he had two wives or was
really Lord Byron (as far as I know, anyway).  "Love on a Farmboy's
Wages," dealing with the economic realities of the pastoral life, is also
reminiscent of Clare.

Another thought: I read in an interview that Andy used to see weird
visions as a child, which reminded me of the ever-nutty William Blake,
who once saw a tree full of angels when he was four, and once screamed
because he saw "God press his forehead against the window."

Natalie Jacobs
"Are we not proof that the universe is a drooling
idiot with no fashion sense?"	- Mr. Nobody


Subject: Before and After _NONSUCH_
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 12:16:53 +0900
From: "Naoyuking Iso." <>

HI! All of You Chalkhillans!!!

I got the CD _DEMOS 3_ featuring the stuffs for _ORANGES & LEMONS_,
for example `Mayor of Simpleton', `Blue Beret', `My Train is Coming',
`Everything', and so on.  This CD contains `Ella Guru' which many
people on this list discussed a few weeks ago, and I've listened to
it for the first time.  But I don't like it so much.  I guess XTC
didn't have to play that tune at all.  But anyway...

> Whats the current word on the next Xtc release? Anybody?
> And is there a way to hear or get existing tracks as of now.
> How would someone go about hearing such a thing?

On the Japanese copy of the book "CHALKHILLS and CHILDREN",
some titles of songs that are supposed to be included by the
following XTC album appear : `River of Oakids', `The pot wanna
hold our love', `Church of Women', and `Wonder Annual' which
was written for _NONSUCH_ and supposed to be the album title
before adopting the title `NONSUCH'.  They are said (written?)
to sound like `Rook' or `Wrapped in Grey' (i.e. apart from the
constructions of guitar, bass and drums).  But I've never listened
to them at all.

Someone who wants to listen to them right now should collect the
rare items of XTC more than others do, and report to Ben Gott.

> From: Ben Gott <>
> XTC's Andy Partridge was originally slated to produce "Modern Life
> Is Rubbish," but the relationship between Blur and Partridge quickly
> soured and Street was again brought in to produce the band.

Andy was originally slated for the producer of _MODERN LIFE IS
RUBBISH_ and he and Blur actually recorded a few songs.  But after it
(Sep '92) Andy and his family visited Japan for a while, and during
his absence Blur changed their mind and restarted the recording with
another producer.  `Street' is the name of the next producer, I guess.

BTW, I ask someone who has the CD box set _THE GREAT DECEIVER_ by KC
to email me personally. (I hope Mr. Relph doesn't mind me writing this)


   From "Naoyuking Iso." at the department of economics in Keio Univ.   (till 31st March 1996)


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:28:44 GMT
Subject: Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-77

BObannon wrote:
> I love XTC to death, but I must also disagree with the notion that they can
> legitimately called "groundbreaking." This term I think can only honestly be
> used in connection with bands who either spawn a legion of imitators (REM,
> Sex Pistols, Velvet Underground, Big Star), or who are so innovative that no

Strangely enough, you may recall that when XTC were touring the
states they were supported once by an up-and-coming band who had
several cover of XTC in their set.  This band was REM.  This kind of
suggests that REM were and perhaps still are imitators of XTC.  :-)

I would also like to call bands that 'spawn a legion of imitators'
merely popular, not necessarily 'groundbreaking'.

Dames TWD

P.s. Did you hear that The Sex Pistols are reforming?

(Life is good in the greenhouse:XTC)
(You told me you saw Jesus, but I could only see a tree: Amber)
(If people lived in Heaven, God would break their windows: Damian)


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 06:41:54 -0800
Subject: "Pooting" and Politics

William Bevan asked about 'pooting' and 'nummies' on FZ.  Well,
scatalogical they are, well-known, not.  A poot is a fart.  I once read in
an interview with Frank that the song about numies was based on a kid he
knew in childhood who actually kept his boogers, or 'nose nuggets' as it
were in a jar. Tongue-in-cheek or finger-in-nose I'm not sure. That's a

In a more serious vein, it seems our little village is turning into a
political arena of late. Cuba, Thatcher etc. seem to be preoccupying a lot
of people out there.  Funny how 'songs about the weather and girls' can
bring that out in folks.

I've always thought that 'Another Cuba' , based on the time it was written
(c. 1980) was about the breakdown in the SALT treaty talks at the time and
not about Cuba per se.  The rest of the world had to look on while once
again the powers that be engaged in so much sabre rattling.

As far as reading anti-Thatcher sentiment into XTC lyrics, why not go out
on a limb and say 'Sacrificial Bonfire' was really about her and her Tory
cronies?  "The children grew fat on the meat", "Change must be earnt",
"Yields are good" "Scapegoats".  It all sounds pretty political to me along
Reaganomic/Thatcherite lines :-)

Perhaps the happy land of Chalkhills is not the best forum for politics;
I'd rather have more discussion on the tourist Mecca that is Swindon. BTW,
the inner sleeve of GO-2 has 'Moulding's Street Plan of Swindon'.  This
might be helpful for anyone planning a visit.

<<Won't you put your knuckes down, boys?>>


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 10:08:17 EST
Subject: Andy-Blur connection
From: (Jennifer Ralston)
Organization: TBWA Chiat/Day

      Andy-Blur connection
Kevin Donnelly wrote:
>In the latest issue of the Blur mag "Blurb" (which
>is my sister's copy, not mine, thankfully),


>it says that Andy recorded some material with Blur
>for Modern Life is Rubbish, but for one reason or
>another, it was all shelved. I wonder why.

Here's the deal... Andy was actually supposed to *produce*
that album for Blur. Damon respects Andy's work quite a
bit, as any self-respecting musician should, and was
looking forward to working with him. However, production
turned out to be disastrous (this may come as no surprise),
they just couldn't get along, and Blur found a new producer.

If anyone is really interested in the details, let me know
and I'll pass them along.


heaven is paved with broken glass...


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 08:15 -0700 (MST)
From: Miles or Gigi Coleman <>
Subject: RE: Chalkhills and Children

>My friends' 1-year-old daughter, Gwynneth, is a fussy baby.  She hates
>going to sleep especially, and cries a lot and makes a big deal out of it.
>And yet, somehow, every damn time, the chorus from "Senses Working
>Overtime" will get her to stop crying.  Even when her mother sings it
>horribly out-of-tune, it works.  Gwynneth also likes "Towers of London,"
>though is indifferent to Elvis Costello and the Pogues.

Along the thread of babies and the boys, my sister-in-law just had a son on
February 28 and named him Colin Gregory.  Funny thing is, she's never heard
of our fab three.  Congratulations anyway, Gregg and Dana!


My quote of the day: "nevermore will it lure me away with sweets and shiny
things just like a magpie"


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 10:22:24 -0500
From: "Kendrick, Tim" <>
Organization: Dictaphone Corporation
Subject: Latest from Little Express

  Hi !

   It seems there are alot of Chalkhill subscribers
   out there who don't get THE LITTLE EXPRESS.
   (You should -  they always talk directly to XTC to get
    the latest info.)

   The latest info (from THE LITTLE EXPRESS) is:

    - Andy wants to release a double CD, with the 2 CD's
      each having a very different sound;
      one orchestral, the other electric guitar based.

    - Colin says that their next release will sound
     "like a new XTC"; very different sounding
     (he says he's worried they might become "parodies"
       of themselves if they don't go for a new sound).

  -  COLUMBIA RECORDS has offered the group a firm
      record deal, but XTC has not yet decided whether
      or not to accept it.

  Those are the highlights - subscribe to THE LITTLE EXPRESS
   for more (not affiliated with them, just think they put out
   a high-class fan mag).

	Tim  K.

  "I got so much to say but I'm afraid it'll come out wrong"


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 11:00:16 -0500
From: (sirris)
Subject: Black Market XTC

Hi Chalkhillians, sorry, this is a strictly commercial post...
 I have one extra copy of Go+, a bunch of 7" (including "Limelight")
 promo copies and 12" to sell, auction  or trade.

Write to Gino at
XTC memento of the day: He who hesitates is lost...


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 12:03:38 CST
From: "Bernhardt, Todd" <>
Subject: Roundabouts, Cuba, Babies, Poets and Concepts

Howdy, y'all. Some thoughts on the recent digest:

From: William HamBevan <>:
>Indeed, the most well known landmark in Swindon is a complex of traffic
>roundabouts: it consists of one whopper of a roundabout surrounded by
>five baby ones. If you encounter it ill-prepared, you can expect to
>travel in neat geometrical patterns for at least half an hour, without
>displacing yourself more than 300 yards from your starting point.

HA!! I've been there! Made the pilgramage to Swindon in '94 during a 2-week
trip to Scotland and England -- land(s) of my ancestors, I'm proud to
say -- and while we were driving round Swindon looking for our hotel,
we encountered this, "The Mother of All Roundabouts." While my wife
and her parents looked on in fear and amazement, I had no choice but to
dive in, and survived pretty handily, too (I credit this to my years
of driving in Washingtoon, DeeCee, which has its share of traffic circles,
aka roundabouts). That Swindon roundabout was such an amazing creature that
we wanted to go back and take a picture of the warning sign (a graphical
representation of the one-within-five pattern), but we were too afraid and
decided not to press our luck.

And William, though I agree with you about the town of Swindon itself
(not as vehemently, though I agree it's nothing much to look at), the
surrounding countryside is beautiful, and the town makes a pretty good
base for excursions to various stone circles, chalk horses and picturesque
villages. Oh, yeah -- I had some really good beer there, too.

From: Jeffrey Langr <> in his reply to Big Earl:
>What is interesting is how even a right wing "moron" like myself can
>appreciate XTC and understand their liberal views.

Well, what's interesting is how many points of view we all have about so
many different things. This kind of intellectual anarchy is what I like
most about the Internet.

>Who's more open-minded here -- the knee jerk conservative or the idealistic
>liberal who wears blinders to reality?

Not fair, Jeff. You can call yourself a knee-jerk conservative if you want
(you know best, after all), but you have little information on Big Earl's
background, how much thought he put into the matter, or how he deals with
reality on a day-to-day basis.

And, in a subsequent post (apparently, you were really getting worked up
into a lather over BE's post):
>It always amazes me every time I hear this bit -- your sort is elitist
>and so much better than all of us idiot Americans, but nevertheless always
>glad to take those American tourist and aid dollars.  Hypocrites.

When did Canada start accepting foreign aid from the U.S.? Calm down, man.

From: Natalie Jane Jacobs <>:

>My friends' 1-year-old daughter, Gwynneth, is a fussy baby.  She hates
>going to sleep especially, and cries a lot and makes a big deal out of it.
>And yet, somehow, every damn time, the chorus from "Senses Working
>Overtime" will get her to stop crying.  Even when her mother sings it
>horribly out-of-tune, it works.

Thanks for the tip, Natalie. My wife and I are scheduled to go into the
hospital at 7:00 a.m. tomorrow for her to be induced to give birth to our
first child (pause for father-to-be anxiety sigh here), and we'll have to see
if our boy likes XTC, too. He should -- he's heard enough of it while on the
inside. But as for "Senses Working Overtime," well ... given the diversity
of opinions on this list, who knows what his favorite song will be? Gawd, I
can see it now -- sitting down to have little father-and-son arguments about
the true meaning of "Dear Madam Barnum"...  :^)

>I think that I will compare XTC to Wordsworth, only because he is the most
>accessible poet of the Romantic Age.  There are, however, many similarities
>between most Romantic poets or writers and XTC; this is inherent to the
>general feeling of the time period and the way that Andy and Colin write
>their song lyrics.  Anyway, I digress and will sum this up at the end.
[snipping, snipping]
>So my question to you all, and I may start and argument here, so I
>apologize, is:  "Is XTC, as an individual consciousness, typical of
>Romanticism, or as Ben suggests, "Coleridge would have been more of an XTC

Actually, I tried to start a thread about six months ago about whether Andy
is the reincarnation of 17th-century poets Alexander Pope or John Donne.
Only got a couple of responses, but one person (sorry, forget your name)
said he thought Andy's stuff is more similar to Andrew Marvell's, and I have
to agree. I've always identified Andy's lyrics with cerebral wit of that era
rather than the raw emotionalism of the Romantic era. I dunno. Maybe the
whole point is that he's a great writer/mind/poet/lyricist/whatever, and so
is similar to other great writers, etc.

From: about Skylarking concept:

>that the concept was to make the songs sound like the progression through
>a single day. It starts early morning Summer's Cauldron and by the time you
>get to "Earn  enough" you are at midday then gradually winding down to evening

I've heard this, too, but always thought that Todd got the order slightly
wrong. I mean, what is "Summer's Cauldron" if not a high-noon sweltering-day
kind of song? The whole thing works better for me as a very loose progression
concept not really centered on one thing or another (day vs. life, whatever).
Who knows, maybe it was just Todd trying to exert control over one more thing.



Date: 29 Feb 96 13:39:46 EST
From: Simon Sleightholm <>
Subject: A Navajo Blanket... wrote

>I still stand by my motto 'dance music must die',

I agree that the vast majority of dance music is dross, but then the vast
majority of *all* styles of music is dross. It's the rare gems that get it
right that make it all worthwhile; I'll take as many Tina Turners as you
can throw at me as long as there's a Mary Chapin Carpenter in there; pour 2
Unlimited's on me from a great height, just let me find a KLF amongst them
as they fall; let me be swamped by waves of Wet Wet Wet, as long as I
surface with XTC between my teeth.

>It's easy to program a sequence, sample a sound bite, and throw a beat box
>behind it all.

Agreed. But this is not what the majority of *good* dance acts do. Have you
heard the Portishead album? I am not a major dance fan by any means but
writing the whole genre off with "dance music must die" when there is just
as much, if not more, "music by the yard" produced by musicians using
traditional methods, eg. Simply Red, Phil Collins, Meatloaf,
Bon-f*cking-Jovi, et al is a little drastic.  It's just as easy to lay down
a lazy percussion track and smear it with a muso-blues-jam as it is to
produce a low-grade dance tune. There is also the basic fact that there are
some sounds that traditional instrumentation cannot produce, and if XTC are
to progress they have to embrace new techonolgies as they become available
just as the Beatles did. I'm not suggesting the next XTC album should be
"Club Hits: The Swindon Vibe" but all things must evolve. The XTC spin? 13
out of 17 tracks on Nonsuch boast a synthesizer credit.

I take your point about the organ on GO 2 though. I was in mid-rant and in
such situations I don't let little details like the facts stop me from
auto-gravedigging <G>.

Kevin Donnelly wrote

>In the latest issue of the Blur mag "Blurb" (which is my sister's copy,
>not mine, thankfully), it says that Andy recorded some material with Blur
>for Modern Life is Rubbish, but for one reason or another, it was all
>shelved. I wonder why.

Select magazine, "How Do They Do That?" Blur's studio history Part I, July

"The LP that became Modern Life Is Rubbish was to be produced by Andy
Partridge of XTC, quintessential English post-punk psychedelian whom both
Food (Blur's label) and Blur thought would be ideal. Sessions were convened
at Church Studios in Crouch End in the late summer of 1992, after the
band's return from America. Omens were inauspicious when Damon (Blur's
vocalist) told Partridge he was a big fan of the old XTC hit "Making Plans
For Nigel," a song written by Partridge's rival, bassist Colin
Moulding. Graham (Blur's guitarist) was having personal problems and - a
rare thing for him - missed sessions or arrived drunk.  Only three songs
were ever taped -"Sunday Sunday", "Seven Days"(never released in any
version) and "Coping". At first the band loved the results then
dramatically changed their minds."

Check out "London Loves" on Parjlife for the XTC influence, especially the
guitar part.

Yours, crawling on an and on across the antheap,


"We're all Jesus, Buddha and The Wizard Of Oz..."


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 13:49:11 EST
From: "John Christensen" <>
Subject: Tributes and Lyrics and Stuff, Oh My

More Tribute Tape Ideas:

The Costello group held a contest to name their tribute tape (so they
wouldn't have to keep referring to it as "the tribute tape"). People
suggested names and the entire group voted. My name ("Little Covers of
Concrete"*) lost, but only because Steve Forbes ran negative ads on the

The Costello group also had a contest to design the tape cover.  Graphic
designs were posted on the Costello web page for members to vote on.  In
a surprise move, Pat Buchanan condemned the web page for posting
"graphic" material. He was ignored.

Does anyone have other tribute tape ideas/experiences which might get
more list members excited about the project?

The Lyric Analysis Debate:

Thanks Ben Woll . . . I've been meaning to send in a similar post for a
week now.  So many people are trying to get into Andy or Colin's head
for song interpretations -- why not spend a little time in your own
head?  A while back, I sent in a Mao-centered interpretation of
"Millions" that was, admittedly, a reach -- but that's what the lyrics
mean to me.

Do you think Andy and Colin really care what we do with the lyrics
they've conceived?  Hey, the water broke, the umbilical chord was
snipped from the Virgin mother -- it's your baby now. What does the song
mean to you?  (A bit of advice: If it stinks . . . change it!)

It's A Mirage:

While we're on the topic, I'm watching my two-year-old daughter this
Sunday while my wife goes to see Oasis in Detroit. I was offered a free
ticket, but I'd rather clear landmines with my tongue than see the UK
version of Hootie and the Blowfish. Just my opinion.

Lastly, Jellyfish is mentioned so often here, I ran out and bought
"Spilt Milk" last Sunday.  Interesting . . . sounds like "A Hard Day's
Night At The Opera" injected with 10cc's of XTC. I like it!


*Elvis Costello's nickname is "Little Hands of Concrete".


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 10:50:18 -0800
Subject: The Tribute is ON!


  BOOM!   YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-HAAAAAAAAAAA!!   My Mailbox was swamped this
  morning!  It's all systems go!  I real excited about this!

  Here is the list so far.  For those who have already responded, please
  send me email indicating your prefered song.  For those who haven't
  responded yet, WHAT UP DOG?

  1. Robin Myrick   solo?
  2. Robin Myrick   with?
  3. Peter Fitzpatrick
  4. Sean Altman    Ten Feet Tall
  5. Miles Coleman
  6. Ben Gott       All of a Sudden (It's Too Late)
  7. Chris Spillios (probably) Dear God
  8. Harrison Sherwood        Burning with Optimism's Flame or
                              Living In A Haunted Heart
  9. John Christensen
  10. Curtis Settino
  11. Steve Lutz    Season Cycle
  12. Natalie Jacobs          Rook
  13. Dolph Chaney  Respectable Street
  14. Ira Lieman
  15. Steve Skeg
  16. Nick Mitchell
  17. John Hedges   Disque Bleu or Ra Ra Red Rocking Horse
  18. Christopher Burgess
  19. Randy C       Sacraficial Bonfire
  20. Ned Robie

  Once the blanks are filled in I will only post the song list.

  I've also had several requests for sheet music, guitar tab or anything
  that can help us regular Joes figure out some of these crafty song
  structures.  If you have anything that may help, post the info to
  Chalkhills.  Likewise, Tribute contributors should post specific

  I'll send a schedule in a few days but for now let's just say that I
  would like to receive the tapes between July 22 and August 3.  I may have
  to adjust this out a bit... but for now that's the plan.

  AND REMEMBER!! For analog recordings please, put a 0 VU tone at the head
  of your tape so that I can match levels.  If any of the amateur recorders
  out there have questions, write me.

  I also received an offer from a Recording Studio owner to supply tapes
  and labels at cost.  Extreeeeemely cool.

  THIS IS GREAT!!!, I better switch to Decaf.... Richard

  p.s. To the doomsayer that stated that I "... have no idea what angst and
  agony I'm in for..."   If it doesn't kill me, it only makes me stronger.


From: bwhitman@WPI.EDU (Brian Whitman)
Subject: Samples / XTC / WAR?
Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 14:33:52 -0500

Here's some info from the Samples (Colorado based band) email group... their
new album, which is called 'Outpost', is due out in May or June on Mercury
Records. I have heard it is being produced by Paul Fox (Oranges & Lemons).
Their old record company, WAR?, who released the first 5 albums of the
Samples, has this news:

(crossposted from Samples list)
News from WAR?:
War now has an e-mail address ( if you have any questions.

WAR? recently signed the New Orleans based Radiators.  A fun band indeed
who will be touring this spring (April 6 in Minnepolis baby).  The Ugly
Americans who were formally with WAR? have moved to Capricorn.  A new
artist with WAR? is Yazbek, who produced XTC albums as well as the tribute
album to XTC.  Closest sounding to the Samples, apparently, the album has
XTC on a lot of tracks for all you XTC fans.  I'll be getting a demo soon
and give reviews.
(end of crosspost).

That's my information. Sorry if it is already common knowledge...

have fun!

     Brian Whitman - -
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Date: Thu, 29 Feb 1996 12:04:51 -0800 (PST)
From: Thomas Long <>
Subject: Marketing Men

> This statement belies the fact that most of a bands audience is obtained
> by the preconsidered targeting of the marketing men in the bands record
> company, much to many bands regret as they mature in years. When a band
> is tender in years just getting a record contract is enough, but when
> they have 'made it' the acquired teenybopper audience becomes a millstone
> around their neck. An example of this is 'take that' who once the members
> of the band tire of the adulation of a teenage audience realise they have
> no option but to split.

I'm willing to agree with you up to a point (he said diplomatically), but
I think bands have to accept some responsibility for the way in which
they are being portrayed... especially in this day and age, where choosing
to enter into Pop Music is more of a career move... and in other news,
I'd like to add Teenage Fanclub to the ever growing
"if-you-like-xtc-you-might-like-this" list... both Bandwagonesque & Grand
Prix are superb examples of the genre known Powerpop, as defined by
the industry weasels... thomas


Date: Thu, 29 Feb 96 13:00:41 PST
From: "Sean Robison" <>
Subject: Re: Subject: Interpretation on Interpretations

>From: Benjamin Woll <>
>Andy way very well have written Another Satellite as a love song.
>His intentions might be perfectly clear, and he might cry out to his dying
>breath that reading anything else into it is foolhardy, but to be frank, I
>do not give a damn.  Once the strings in 1000 Umbrellas or the jazzy
>sophistication of I Remember The Sun ooze out of my speakers and into my
>room they belong to me and anyone else who finds these songs rewarding
>listening.  They take on meanings completely independant of what Andy or
>Colin might have intended, and that is wonderful.  Art that can take on a
>life of its own, music that is rich enough to be appreciated in many
>different ways (even some which might be conventionally regarded as wrong)
>is great music.

Yes, true. But... it's still a lot of fun interpreting what they might have
been thinking when they wrote the lyrics. It's quite a compliment to the
band by the very fact that their lyrics are SO open to various
interpretions AND the very fact that those lyrics make you think. It once
again, puts XTC above the normal pablum that most artists spill out as

(and no... the above statement cannot be interpreted as a diatribe against
Thatcherism... :))



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