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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 2, Number 40

                 Monday, 27 November 1995

Today's Topics:

                 Peter Pumpkinhead & JFK
                       This is pop
          Other bands' songs that sound like XTC
             More MUZAK More MUZAK More MUZAK
                      T-Shirt Update
                        Andy Sings
                       pink things
        Re: The twain where XTC & the Beatles meet
                      Squeaky Cycle
                Andy/Colin Photo Available
            Tone painting and other esoterica
       A Clarification (Sgt. Pepper Knew My Father)
                  XTC are Feg fan favs!
                       Pink Thing.
             Re: God Speak (Self-censorship)
                        Sunny Jim
                      Andy's sexism
                  Re: Seasons Cycle Beep
                        Miscellany
                   post-weekend musings

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From: g.giusti@area.it (Giovanni Giusti)
Subject: Peter Pumpkinhead & JFK
Date: 24 Nov 1995 07:23:52 GMT
Organization: area bbs

In Chalkhills Digest #2-37, DougMash@aol.com wrote (about PPH lyrics):

> "those who would keep us on their knees" - not well liked
> by communist rulers or the mob.

Now now, I don't want to start a political thread here as bad as the good
old Dear God debate, but - don't assume Andy's feelings about Communism to
be as clear-cut as most Americans'.

JFK was not well liked by the right-wing American establishment. He was not
liked by the KKK or by the various lobbies that infest American
politics. And he was definitely _not_ killed by Commies, was he?

At least that's how the legend goes in my part of Europe.  His
confrontations with Krushev are not that much remembered over here.
Actually, he's seen as one of the most "liberal" and less anti-leftist of
U.S. Presidents.  And the JFK movie by Oliver Stone definitely does _not_
mention Communists.

IMHO Andy was referring to right-wing fanatics and racists.

That's it.

G.

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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 22:40:40 +1100 (EST)
From: horsam@ozemail.com.au (j p horsam)
Subject: This is pop

Greetings from Dangar Island, 50 kms out of Sydney
Australia on the beautiful, if threatened,
 Hawkesbury River.
I'm  new to Chalkhills, but I started out when the
 Statue of Liberty was just putting Superglue in her hair.
 Every album has been like
Christmas to me... it's like opening  you presents.

My but what a serious bunch of people you are!
I think there's a sort of heresy in trying to work out
the chords etc to the songs.
Whatever you see in the lyrics, keep in mind ..This Is Pop... please
consider your dissertations in the light of humour,satire, songcraft
and train spotting.
Dave Gregory doesn't get mentioned enough.
Record producers do serve a useful purpose, look at George Martin.
XTC should be exporting their production talents....
teach Paul McC to write songs again... teach some of these grungemeisters
how to pull a decent guitar sound for a change.
I still don't know why XTC aren't the richest and most famous band in
the world.

cheers

peter Horsam

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From: g.giusti@area.it (Giovanni Giusti)
Subject: Other bands' songs that sound like XTC
Date: 24 Nov 1995 12:48:12 GMT
Organization: area bbs

Dear friends,

OK. I wish to start a new thread here.

Maybe it's been covered a hundred million times, if so, just don't follow
up!

A posting by Christopher R. Coolidge on CD 2-38 about a David Byrne song
that sounded like XTC, prompted me to ask the following:

Do any of you know any original songs by other bands that at one point in
time you have mistaken for XTC, or that sound like XTC so much you actually
wondered?

For a starter, I'd like to propose "Someone Else's Clothes" by good old
Ultravox (from "Systems of Romance", 1979 I think).

If you reply by mail I'll be happy to post a digest of answers.

G.

-- "When it rains it rains (all the colours in my paintbox)"

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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 16:42:54 -0600
From: Scott Taylor <staylor@sky.net>
Subject: More MUZAK More MUZAK More MUZAK

Pardon me, but I just had to send responses to a few points made in past
Chalkhills posts...

>the MUZAK company is based in Seattle, and apparently doing quite well...one
>interesting thing I know about it is: it's on for 15 minutes,then off for 15.

A year or so ago, Spy Magazine bagged on a couple of native Seattle grunge
artists (I think it may have been Dave Grohl and/or Scott Weiland and/or
Eddie Vedder) for having come to the alternative world only after honing
their craft as session musicians for the Muzak corporation.  Apparently
Muzak pays the rent for a fair portion of that city's artistic element.

For further elucidation, check out "Grunge Lite" by (I think) Sarah Bell,
Muzak-ized reworkings of _Smells Like Teen Spirit_, _Hunger Strike_, etc.

>Pumkinhead playing from a radio in the back of the hut.(Don't ask me how
>they got electricity that deep into that jungle...I can only swear it's a
>true story)

Mmmmmm, tough call...  Electricity in a jungle, of all places.  Could it
have been BATTERIES perhaps?

And now, for something actually XTC-related...  The Discovery Channel
broadcast a piece this afternoon about large chalk and rock drawings from
around the world.  I caught the promo ahead of time and so was able to run
the cable to my PC to get a couple of good screen captures of the Uffington
horse featured on _English Settlement_; one of the horse and surrounding
terrain in basically the same orientation as the album cover, another
looking from the horse's front legs across the length of its body (both are
aerial shots, with a person standing nearby for scale reference).  I've got
them stored as 1024x768 Windows bitmaps, so they'd make nice wallpaper for
anybody who's a fan of that album.  I can send them as MIME attachments
(approximately 750k each as .BMP, 158K as .JPG).  Email me if you want them.

ST
staylor@sky.net

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Date: Fri, 24 Nov 95 19:49 MST
From: philco@micron.net (Phil Corless)
Subject: T-Shirt Update

An update on the Chalkhills t-shirt.... As of Friday, Nov. 24,
I have received checks from:

Beckham, Peters, Wheeler, Brenner, Williams, Sattler, Relph,
Barton, Risch, Allen, Thierer, Jordan, Haefner, Scott, Glass,
Auerbach, Woiccak, Rhoten, Martis, Thomas, Martucci, Day,
Snyder, Reyes, O'Leary, Vongkasemsiri, Hastings, Tomek,
Sinclair, Isaacson and Zemel.

If your name isn't listed there and you have sent me a check
or money order, please let me know.  I'm still waiting on
the overseas mail.... Most of it will probably get to me next
week.  Hopefully I'll get the shirts ordered by the first week
in December.....  It'll be tight, but maybe I can get the shirts
to you in time for Christmas!

*--------------------------------
Phil Corless
Boise, Idaho
philco@micron.net
*--------------------------------
http://www.lookup.com/Homepages/53541/home.html

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Date:         Sat, 25 Nov 95 10:43:10 EST
From: Peter Ermey <ST002436@BROWNVM.brown.edu>
Subject:      Andy Sings

For the last time, Andy sings Collideascope. Don't let it throw you.  He
just puts a real strain and sneer into the vocals. The real question is who
is doing vocals on their cover of "Ella Guru"? I've always figured it was
Andy just 'cos the whole thing sort of sounds like Andy messing around. He
loses a little bit of the unpredictable nature of the groove but the vocals
are master forgery.

I thought that lady's query about using intervals to get at the heart of
XTC's music sounded sort of pagan. Is she saying that Andy's deepest
intentions will be revealed through a number crunching or that the music is
interesting because the melodies dictate the chord progressions? I hope
it's the latter.

TINKLETUM, TANKLETUM
Peter

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From: Algae99@aol.com
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 22:48:38 -0500
Subject: pink things

If I ever engaged in debate over the merits of "Pink Thing", I would simply
state that I thought it was a song Andy wrote about his young child.   I
would also take mock offense that anyone could ever think someone would write
such a descriptive song about peni, or Onanism-outside of GG Allin.  (Spit in
my eye? I love you for it??) I try to read that song in such a manner, that
being fatherly fascination, because I lose respect for Mr. Partridge when I
think he is singing to John Thomas.  Of course, I have never engaged in such
a debate.  Certainly more interesting than "Dear God", however, if we did.
 Is anybody with me?
Good producer for XTC- Adrian Belew.  He has worked with any number of
brilliant artists,  too numerous to mention, as well as being a brilliant
artist/producer himself.  "Mr. Music Head" is a good example.
I see "Sgt. Rock" as humor, "Cockpit" as satire, and "My Weapon" as a good
dance song.
I am glad I confused somebody.  Now if I could only not confuse myself so
much...
James

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Date: Sat, 25 Nov 1995 21:58:35 -0800
From: rimshot3@ix.netcom.com (ERIC ROSEN )
Subject: Re: The twain where XTC & the Beatles meet

Thank you to all who corrected me about Nick Lowe having written "What's so
Funny..."  It was brain glitch at this end.  Won't happen again :) "I
should've known better" being that I saw him open for EC "all those years
ago."

The twain where XTC and the Beatles meet:

>From: M Wilson <mw25@unix.york.ac.uk>
>
>> From: Danny <100637.2212@compuserve.com>
>> Subject: Collideascope
>>
>> Surely Collideascope is Andy imitating John Lennon. Check out the nasal
>> Liverpudlian accent.
>
>I think it's a pastiche of `I'm Only Sleeping' off the BTL's
>`Revolver' LP.  Certainly the best John Lennon impression I've heard.

If anything is a pastiche of "I'm Only Sleeping" I'd say it's "Shiny Cage."
Collideascope is clearly Andy doing a superb JL but no specific tune comes
to mind.  Every time I hear him say "Wakey, wakey, little sleep" [sic?]:

i.  I feel as if I'm about to discover the tune that inspired it-- but
      then it slips away.
ii. that it really is JL!!

>From: XDEVANS@CCVAX.FULLERTON.EDU
>
>Speaking of the Beatles, which we weren't, really, I heard "Free as a
>Bird" today on the radio.  I'd like to see something like "The Good
>Things" get that kind of publicity (it's coming after a long absence,
>after all, and is something of a better song), but who am I fooling.

Perhaps there will someday be an XTC Anthology (probably would take an
act of G-d ;)

>From: BugRoom@aol.com
>Subject: Oops, said the 7-letter word.  Only twice.  Sorry.
>
>---> "Anyone but Jeff Lynne!  I was very disappointed to hear
>he produced the new B****es' material!" <---

Me too.  Everything he touches somehow "turns to ELO."  Once I get past
that, I find it to be a worthy tune.

>Did he really?  I heard "Free Like A Bird" on the radio.  I
>thought it had that "Travelling Willbury" sound (whom I don't
>really mind).  What really cheeses me off about all this is that
>it's an OLD John Lennon DEMO.  NOT a new Beatles song!!  All
>doctor-ed up with added "stuff".  I don't mind, very much, that
>this happened... I just get weary of DJ's treating this like it's
>supposed to be the 'new Beatles single'.  They all get down on
>it because it's not the next "Hey Jude".  Whaddaya expect?  I
>personally think the whole thing is SILLY.  Very embarrassing.

It's still a whole lot better than the 3 of them going around calling
themselves the Beatles (like Skynyrd, Floyd, etc.).  JL demos are
really the only way they could "reunite."  I think it was done out of
genuine sentiments and ultimately redeems itself.  It's unrealistic to
expect something that will knock our socks off for the same reason they
refused to reunite in the '70's -- expectations will always exceed
reality.  Getting JL's voice in there could only be done with his demos
and no one's trying to keep that a secret so I think we all know the
notion of "new" is euphemistic.

Having watched the three broadcasts, I must say it is a towering visual
achievement.  The editing, compositing, restoration and colorization is
extremely tasteful.  It does justice to what they must have had in mind
at the time but lacked the technology to implement.

As a documentary it set a very specific objective -- to say what it was
like to be who they were at the time.  To get the last word out of the
horses' mouths so to speak.  It achieved that in spades.  If you're
looking for more wide ranging discussions like politics, religion,
sociology etc., it crops up now and then but this wasn't meant to be a
treatise on things outside their expertise.

When one thinks about how they were monumentally ripped off by EMI
(sound familiar?), screwed by Michael Jackson, etc., who could blame
them for doing what they have done?  BTW, IMHO, the news of Jackson
selling the rights to their songs for $80,000,000 (double what he paid
for it a decade or so ago) gets me thinking that maybe SONY (the
purchasers, who also pay his "salary" of 1 Billion dollars) "made him
an offer he couldn't refuse" in response to his "indiscretions."  This
would imply that they're worth a good deal more.  Just a thought.

I realize this is a tangent for which I humbly apologize, but I think
this needed to be said because there are real parallels with XTC here.
In ten years they will be the same age as the Beatles are now.  I, for
one, would like to see a documentary done on XTC that is as good as the
Beatles Anthology.  The technology is already getting easier to use and
cheaper to acquire.  I work with a firm that sells non-linear digital
video editing systems so I have some idea of what I'm talking about.  I
imagine the biggest problem would be legal i.e. rights to material
(video and sound) especially in the current environment.

XTC may not have had the sales and popularity to allow for the "effect
on society" angle but the Chalkhills & Children book would be just the
start of what could be covered.  AP says he's not big on video but many
XTC videos are tastefully done (I especially like "All of a Sudden").
As a matter of fact XTC lyrics are usually so visual that videos are
nearly superfluous!!  I would love to see them with the flexibility
that feature length video/film would afford.  If nothing more than "Let
it Be" sessions of them making a new record, not just a song, as was
done with Towers of London.

>Oops... is this the XTC list?  (ha).  Let me try to tie this in here.
>Okay... got it.  My ultimate TD request would be for John
>Lennon to do "Books Are Burning".  It already sounds like a JL
>song.  Guess that one can't be done.

Couldn't agree more plus it has all the frightful qualities that "1984"
had on first reading.

To the individual who thought the intro of "Disque Bleu" sounds like
the Beatles' "In My Life," I think "And I Love Her" is closer.

**************
And in the end,
the love you rake
is equal to the love...
you bake.
**************

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 11:42:06 +0500 (EST)
From: Slackman <tgs@telerama.lm.com>
Subject: Squeaky Cycle

Danny writes:

>>...there's one tiny little detail on Skylarking
>>which has always bugged me, and that is the curious
>>high-pitched tinkling sound at the start of the
>>middle section. It's on both my vinyl and CD copies.
>>
>>Funnily enough it happens over the words "I really
>>get confused on who would make all this". A sign??
>>An act of God?? Nah, probably just a studio
>>glitch that got missed or couldn't be fixed. Still,
>>funny to find a flaw like that on what is one of XTC's
>>most smoothly-produced albums.

I've been dissecting this song piece by piece, as I am
doing a version for the "Skylacking" tribute, and I find
this very curious, as well. When I first heard it, I thought
my portable phone was ringing! Upon closer listening, I
think it's high pitched feedback from a guitar. As to why
it was left in, I have no idea - it's incredibly annoying.
I doubt it was something that couldn't be removed - I would
be very surprised if it wasn't on its own little track that
could have been edited. It certainly couldn't have gone
unnoticed - I don't think Tod was *that* stoned!

TS

"There are two types of people in the world - those who
think there are two types of people, and those who don't."

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From: DougMash@aol.com
Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 12:58:53 -0500
Subject: Andy/Colin Photo Available

I had a photo I took of Andy & Colin scanned in in .JPG format. If anyone is
interested in getting a copy, E-Mail me (DougMash@aol.com). It is from a
record (O&L) signing June 1989 at Record World in Garden City, NY (a stop on
the acoustic tour). The guy in the background is some long-forgotten local
DJ.

I need help with one other thing. Are there any (US Please) Chalkhillians
with access to a good scanner?  I have self-portraits drawn on 8 1/2" x 11"
paper by Andy & Dave (& also several other '80s popsters!) that I'd like
scanned in. If anyone wants to volunteer, I'll mail you a clean copy to scan.
E-Mail me the file & I'll distribute. I'll let everyone know when they're
available, so don't bother me for a copy yet!

Cheers!,
Doug

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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:41:07 -0500 (EST)
From: Natalie Jane Jacobs <gnat@umich.edu>
Subject: Tone painting and other esoterica

I was interested by the remarks on "tone painting" - the use of musical
devices to suggest what's going on in the lyrics.  I'm a big fan of
Schubert songs and, of course, he does this all the time: actually, he
probably invented it, the devious little man.  Most of of the examples
that spring to mind, though, are actually ongoing evocative motifs and
not "tone painting" per se, like the dissonant barrel-organ drone in "Der
Leiermann" (the most depressing song ever written).

One XTC thing I've been noticing is in "Rocket from a Bottle," one of my
favorite songs.  There's the explosive upward-rising guitar solo in the
middle, as well as the way Andy extends the end of each line to go up
like, well... a rocket ("I feel strong like the tide toda-a-a-a-AY!").
Neat.  And hey - I've just compared Andy Partridge and Schubert.  How's
that for a Sunday afternoon?

And in the esoterica department, there's a nifty free magazine emanating
>from the Detroit area called ORBIT.  Their notoriously pseudo-hip and
sharp-tongued record reviewers had this to say about TD:

"Well, it's about time.  Back in their day, these guys were the chart
hot-shots that had the brass cheek to record songs that, although lacking
in the commercial aspects, still retained enough spunk to obtain the
public's friendship.  This great collection carries eleven of their best
sung by a plethora of today's musical genre [sic], including cuts from
Freedy Johnston, They Might Be Giants, and The Verve Pipe.  But the real
gems to be found here are the Rembrandts with "Making Plans for Nigel,"
Joe Jackson on "Statue of Liberty," and the truly breathtaking
interpretation of "Dear God" from Sarah MacLachlan."

What do you think, sirs?

Natalie Jacobs
**************
"Gods by the bushel!  Gods by the pound!"

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Date: Sun, 26 Nov 1995 13:59:09 -0800
From: Michael Travis <JSMDT@acad1.alaska.edu>
Subject: A Clarification (Sgt. Pepper Knew My Father)

In the last edition of Chalkhills,

I wrote:
> Algae99@aol.com wrote:
> > Did the 3 Wise Men do a track on "Sgt. Pepper Knew My Father"?  I
> > have only seen it once about 800 years ago, but at the time I was
> > not memorizing artists.  Someone told me that they did have a
> > track on it.
>
> Nope. (I have this album.) I wish they had.
>
> There is a cover of Strawberry Fields Forever by "Colin's Hermits" on
> a disc titled _1967: Through the Looking Glass_.

and Big Earl Sellar <splitred@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca> wrote:
(in response to the same question)
> The THREE WIZE MEN do the initial theme and the reprise.
>           ^^^^

I was thinking that Algae99 was asking about any XTC contribution to this
album - playing under the name of the "Three Wise Men" (psuedonym under
which the _Thanks For Christmas_ single was released).

Without digging it out I knew that there was nothing XTC related on the
album, hence my answer.

Mr. Sellar is quite right though, that the Three WIZE Men are on it.
The album credit lists them as being "courtesy of Rhythm King Records".
That, plus no mention of this in the discography seems to confirm that
it isn't those stealthy Swindon lads. The recording doesn't sound like
them either.

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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 02:39:52 +0000
From: robt@atlas.co.uk (Robert Telford)
Subject: XTC are Feg fan favs!

Hi all,

I don't know how many of us on Chalkhills also subscribe to Fegmaniax (the
Robyn Hitchcock list), but they've been conducting a fairly substantial
poll of Fegs' favourite other artists - and XTC came out on top - edging
out the Beatles by a few votes. I've quoted the results below.

I wonder if Robyn Hitcock would hit No. 1 if we conducted our own poll?

Cheerz,

Rob

------- begin forwarded message -------

  From: ZeroSummer@aol.com
  Date: Fri, 24 Nov 1995 10:11:01 -0500
  To: fegmaniax@ns2.rutgers.edu
  Subject: Fave artist poll results

  Following is the top 20 list of fave artists by points.  In
  parentheses are the number of votes followed by the total points.
  The scale was 11 for #1 to 2 for #10.  After that, listed are the
  top 21 artists solely by votes received, for anyone who doesn't like
  the weighted system.  There's not much difference between the two
  lists.  Later on, I'll post total alphabetical results.  A total of
  43 pollees voted for around 230 artists.  By the way,the Beatles
  vs. XTC battle brought some real excitement into my life.  It goes
  without saying, of course, that I need to get out of the house more.

  P.S.  I was sort of cornered into combining both VU and Lou Reed and
  the Pixies and Frank Black, two pairs I had hoped to keep separate.
  But so go the whims of the voters.  Oh, well.

  TOP 20 BY POINTS

  1.  XTC/The Dukes of Stratosphear  (13, 112)
  2.  The Beatles  (13, 106)
  3.  R.E.M.  (11, 79)
  4.  The Church/Steve Kilbey  (9, 69)
  5.  The Velvet Underground/Lou Reed  (10, 66)
  6.  Pixies/Frank Black  (8, 64)
  7.  Elvis Costello  (7, 59)
  8.  The Kinks/Ray Davies  (6, 57)
  9.  They Might Be Giants  (7, 51)
  10.  Bob Dylan  (6, 49)
  11.  Peter Gabriel  (7, 44)
  12.  Neil Young  (5, 41)
  13.  Pink Floyd  (7, 40)
  14.  Frank Zappa  (4, 39)
  15.  Syd Barrett  (4, 37)
  16.  Nirvana  (4, 29)
  17.  Richard Thompson  (4, 28)
  18.  The Who  (3, 28)
  19.  Billy Bragg  (3, 26)
  20.  King Crimson  (3, 25)

  TOP 21 BY VOTES

  1.  XTC/The Dukes of Stratosphear  (13, 112)
  2.  The Beatles  (13, 106)
  3.  R.E.M.  (11, 79)
  4.  The Velvet Underground/Lou Reed  (10, 66)
  5.  The Church/Steve Kilbey  (9, 69)
  6.  Pixies/Frank Black  (8, 64)
  7.  Elvis Costello  (7, 59)
  8.  They Might Be Giants  (7, 51)
  9.  Peter Gabriel  (7, 44)
  10.  Pink Floyd  (7, 40)
  11.  The Kinks/Ray Davies  (6, 57)
  12.  Bob Dylan  (6, 49)
  13.  Neil Young  (5, 41)
  14.  Frank Zappa  (4, 39)
  15.  Syd Barrett  (4, 37)
  16.  Nirvana  (4, 29)
  17.  Richard Thompson  (4, 28)
  18.  Julian Cope/The Teardrop Explodes  (4, 24)
  19.  Tori Amos  (4, 23)
  20.  Television/Tom Verlaine  (4, 22)
  21.  Throwing Muses  (4, 20)

  Comments, anyone?  I personally expected an XTC victory.

------- end forwarded message -------

__________________________________________________________________
Robert Telford       robt@atlas.co.uk      Tel. +44 (181) 641 9456
__________________________________________________________________

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From: DAMIAN FOULGER <SPXDLF@cardiff.ac.uk>
Date:          Mon, 27 Nov 1995 09:28:56 GMT
Subject:       Pink Thing.

> him what he had found so offensive & he said it was Pink Thing.  Now, I
> always thought it was a lighthearted song about sexuality.  I've never
> discused this song with other XTC fans, so I was wondering if there are XTC
> fans who find this song offensive, or if my friend was overreacting.  Just
>curious.

Uh-oh!!!!!!!!!!

	[ This discussion has happened before!  Read your back issues
	  of Chalkhills!  See the Web site.  -- John ]

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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 02:39:45 -1000
From: motherwest@InfoHouse.com (Michael)
Subject: Re: God Speak (Self-censorship)

>From: DAMIAN FOULGER <SPXDLF@cardiff.ac.uk>
>Subject: God speak.
>
>Okay that's it, the final straw!!!!
>...impose a voluntary ban on all God
>exists/God doesn't exist type mails.

Sorry, but I refuse to have anything to do with censoring this newsgroup.
When I encounter a topic I don't find interesting, I simply scroll down the
page to the next message.

I'm sure there are many radio programmers who have grown tired of
encountering challenging music they don't particularly care for. The result
is the safe and bland radio formats devoid of our favorite band.

Michael Bergman

motherwest@infohouse.com
  http://www.please.com

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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 13:24:29 GMT
From: jde@intera.co.uk (Jon Eva)
Subject: Sunny Jim

"Sunny Jim" was a cartoon character used to advertize a breakfast cereal,
called "Force", many years ago. (Something like "Over the roofs jumps Sunny
Jim, FORCE is the food that nourishes him" - hence AP's line "Sunny Jim
couldn't jump it" in 1000 Umbrellas).

Nowadays Sunny Jim is used as a slightly patronizing term for a young man,
(e.g. Don't get lippy with me Sunny Jim), and is usually followed by a punch
in the face.

I have feeling of Deja Vu about this question, it's probably one of those
that crops up every six months or so, but I can't find it in the FAQs.

Jon Eva

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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 1995 03:27:55 -1000
From: motherwest@InfoHouse.com (Michael)
Subject: Andy's sexism

Greetings Chalkhillians,

Off the top of my head, I can think of several Partridge lyrics that seem
to sing the praises of strong, independent women:

Shake You Donkey Up is about a man who treated his love poorly and she told
him to get lost.  "Isn't it a shame you kicked that girl / Isn't it a shame
she kicked you back, jackass."  The second verse tells how she was
supportive of him, yet he "...still dug (his) spurs in."  She refused to be
a victim and told him to get lost.

Instead of telling the woman to be quiet in Don't Lose Your Temper (as one
might assume from the song's title), Andy instead seems to enjoy the
fiestyness he encounters. "Don't lose your temper / 'Cos I love you when
you're wild."  In fact, he is dismayed that an office job and its rules of
decorum seem to be draining the energy out of his girlfriend.  "Whatever
happened to my fighting, biting, lightning lioness."  But the most telling
line concerning his sentiments: "You musn't change the things that make you
what you are."

Oddly enough, the third song that came to mind was "Burning With Optimism's
Flame," in which Andy encounters a woman who first "...claims she's found a
way to make her own light."  And then "She says she's burning up all her
guilts and shames..."  And how does Andy respond to a self-sufficient woman
strong enough to create her own happiness? By happily following her
example. "Now you see I'm smiling... / I learnt her lesson..."  This makes
for a happy ending. "Now I'm thinking okay / I'm turning night into day."

Michael Bergman

motherwest@infohouse.com
  http://www.please.com

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Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 09:42:17 EST
From: dabl2@nes.nlm.nih.gov (Don Lindbergh)
Subject: Re: Seasons Cycle Beep

>From: Danny <100637.2212@compuserve.com>
>Subject: Act of God / Song Soundalikes
..
>....there's one tiny little detail on Skylarking which has always bugged me,
>and that is the curious high-pitched tinkling sound at the start of the
>middle section. It's on both my vinyl and CD copies.
>
>Funnily enough it happens over the words "I really get confused on who
>would make all this". A sign?? An act of God?? Nah, probably just a studio
>glitch that got missed or couldn't be fixed. Still, funny to find a flaw
>like that on what is one of XTC's most smoothly-produced albums.

This always caught my ear too.  I believe it's the sound of a digital
watch beep/alarm.  The significance appears to be the somewhat
incongruous existence of things like digital watches amid all else God
(or whoever) created.  Sonically/musically it's incongruous to the
rest of the sounds in the music.  That's my take on it anyway.  I bet
it was Todd's idea.....

--Don

DABL
dabl2@nes.nlm.nih.gov

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From: Ben Gott <BENG@hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us>
Subject: Miscellany
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 95 10:04:00 est

Good to be Bach. Vacation was great. :-)

1. "Down in the Cockpit" is a sexist song (IMHO), but wonderfully so...

2. "Chips from the Chocolate Fireball" is available on CDnow! I ordered
"Psonic Psunspot", but received "Chips" instead. Hmmm. CDnow!'s address is,
simply: http://cdnow.com.

3. I think that the next XTC producers should be David Yasbek and John Relph.

4. I was watching VH-1 during the Thanksgiving weekend, when they had their
"A-Z" countdown. I didn't stay up late enough to see if they showed XTC, but
my friend Bob taped it for me...I'll let you know which videos (if any) they
showed.

Since your hammer struck my heart...
Ben
beng@hotchkiss.pvt.k12.ct.us
Home Page: http://www.lookup.com/Homepages/58596/home.html

XTC SONG OF THE DAY
                                "The World Is Full Of Angry Young Men"

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Date: 27 Nov 1995 10:47:14 -0500
From: "Ken Salaets" <ksalaets@itic.nw.dc.us>
Subject: post-weekend musings

Date: Wed, 22 Nov 1995 16:06:50 +0000
Subject: Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-33

> From: Danny <100637.2212@compuserve.com>
> Subject: Collideascope
>
> Surely Collideascope is Andy imitating John Lennon. Check out the nasal
> Liverpudlian accent.

<< From: M Wilson <mw25@unix.york.ac.uk>

<< I think it's a pastiche of `I'm Only Sleeping' off the BTL's
<< 'Revolver' LP.  Certainly the best John Lennon impression I've heard.

Check out McCartney's "Let Me Roll It" from Band on the Run (or was it
Venus and Mars?).

> From: Doug Mitarewski <dmitarew@Direct.CA>
> Subject: Ohmagaud -- a 1st time post

> [pop sizzle whiz pfft cough snurt chomp spoing, etc.]

Say, what is this, Prodigy!?!  I feel like we've been thrown back into the
xark ages of xigital xialog!

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