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Subject: Chalkhills Digest #2-137

         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 2, Number 137

                 Wednesday, 17 July 1996

Today's Topics:

                     Re: tracklisting
                     XTC Song Interps
       Re: Eno, My Hero...How wonderful you are....
                      SOMEMORE THOTS
             Flame war flare up (minimal XTC)
                    Moulding and Buck
          XTC Gold CDs, Analog Records from MoFi
  Pass the chewing gum, we're circling the airport again
                       Fossil Fools
                     Trib Tape Update
            old XTC singles, freedom of speech
                   Circuitous Gratuitus
         re : Dave Gregory on Steve Hogarth album
              Bags of Fun with Poor Skeleton
                   FF'ing on XTC Discs
                    New on the list..
                     Yay for Yazbek!
                  producers again (sigh)
              Huduguru's drummer suggestion
                      More producers
           what in the world is Carmen Sandiego
                    More tail chasing
                    Out Of The Shadows


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Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:28:36 -0600
From: DeWitt Henderson <>
Subject: misc

Thatcher for producer?  Cool!  (yeah, right)

Someone's working with Michael Penn?!?!?!  Good Gawd!  It's about
time that boy puts out another CD, hmmmmmm???

To whomever asked about XTC's sales records, yeah, I'd be interested
too.  US vs. UK, also.

Robyn Hitchcock fans, thanks.  I got several responses, both within
Chalkhills and privately, regarding some good stuff to check out.
I'll try to check out some of his stuff soon.  Maybe I can return
the favor - on Elvis Costello? Squeeze? Smithereens? The Osmonds?
Marky Mark?  :~)
DeWitt Henderson
"Don't they realize this is Respectable Street?"


From: myke <>
Message-Id: <>
Subject: Bird,Rush,Froom,Go2,Drummers,Producers...
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 16:41:48 -0500 (CDT)

> From: Joshua Hall-Bachner <>
> Subject: Nonsvch, Rush/XTC

> And My Bird Performs, a beautiful bit of pure melodic joy (yes, I realize I
> am the only one who likes this song.)

	No you're not.

> If anyone lets anybody from Rush within five miles of Andy, Colin, or Dave,
> I will be forced to become extremely violent and blow things up. :) I may be
> strange, but I cannot stand Rush at all and don't want any of (what I
> consider) juvenile songwriting and mega-posturing rubbing off on our boys
> >from Swindon.

	Hear, hear!

> From: (Michael Wicks)
> Subject: Mitch/Mitchell for Producer

> out there that said either Mitch Easter of Mitchell Froom would be good

	You know, I've given it some more thought, and as much as I
	absolutely love Froom's production work (except that damned
	American Music Club album), I don't think it'd do wonders
	for XTC...

> From: (huduguru)
> Subject: Drummers

> I know that the boys never like to look back and use somebody twice,
> but I really wouldn't mind seeing Prairie Prince have another go at it!

	Yes!!! Solid, punchy, perfect. I defiantly stand alone in
	praising the great drum sounds on Skylarking.

> hear from ribald fans of ^Go2^. Where are the rest of us? All you lurkers
> -- show your faces and proclaim your devotion to ^Go2^!

	If anyone lives in Boston, you can come see me and my band.
	We open with Meccanik Dancing and close with Are You Receiving Me.
	Robot-rock fun all around.  Inbetween we throw in Costello's
	"I hope You're Happy Now".

> It took some time for me to get into this Chalkhills thing but I'm glad I
> did.

	I go into Chalkhills withdrawal the minute I finish a digest.
	I want it TWICE A DAY!!! (Myke carefully dodges John's fist, which
	smashes into the wall next to him)

> From: (Peter McCulloch)
> Subject: The three pillars of production

> 1. Those who will give us the album we all expect

	...Steve Lillywhite...

> 2: Those who will take XTC to a new level

	...Paul Fox, Todd Rundgren...

> 3. Those who will screw it up royally

	...Steve Nye, Gus Dudgeon!

> From: (James Dignan)
> Subject: Shore leave similarities

> point though - has anyone ever noticed the similarity between it and
> Shriekback's "Hapax Legomena"?

	Cor, pulling out the B-sides... Actually I haven't even
	heard "Shore Leave Ornithology" yet but I really like
	"Hapax Legomena"! Now I'm curious.

> Subject: A brillian(t) suggestion.

> Yoko Ono is the obvious choice to produce the lads next album.

	No, no, no.  Trevor Horn! :)


From: 7IHd <>
Message-Id: <>
Subject: Re: tracklisting
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 22:36:27 +0100 (BST)

# From: lee beddow <>
# And now, the moment you've all been waiting for - The track listing for
# Fossil Fuel - The XTC Singles Collection 1977 - 1992 (Virgin CDVD2811)
# 15.Wrapped In Grey

Thanks for all the info Lee. A couple of quick thoughts... No Dukes or
similar offshoots, which seems like a shame as there's going to be a lot
of spare CD left over. But more to the point: What is Wrapped In Grey
doing on there? OK, it was going to be a single, and they even made some,
but it was hardly released properly? Well, maybe a reissue is in order? :)

Seriously, I suspect a reissue of something like 'Nigel' or 'Sgt.Rock', or
maybe in these post-Crash-Test-Dummies days 'Peter Pumpkinhead', would
more or less guarantee a big hit and help shift loads of the compilations.
Since when the OMD best of came out Virgin reissued a couple of their early
singles, complete with original B sides, on CD (3"!), you never know...
 |_)|_ *|
 |  | )||


Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 17:56:03 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <>
From: Joshua Hall-Bachner <>
Subject: XTC Song Interps


        I was interested to find that there is no XTC "interpretation
archive". Some other bands have a page where people can submit their
interpretations of different songs, allowing all the fans to see what others
think the songs are about. However, I haven't seen such a page for XTC.
Therefore, I would like to volunteer to maintain the XTC Interpretations
Archive (XTCIA). Anyone who e-mails me a copy of their song interpretations
(with "XTCIA" in the subject line) will have their opinions permanently
interred in the Archive for all to read. If this is a stupid idea, I rest
assured that y'all will inform me post-haste. :)

PS. All Rush fans may now whack me with a stick for my insensitive comments.
(Even though Neil Peart doesn't know his Greek Mythology... :)

RRRR   U   U  SSS  H   H    RRRR  U   U L    EEEE  SSS  !! !! !!
R   R  U   U S     H   H    R   R U   U L    E    S     !! !! !!
RRRR   U   U  SSS  HHHHH    RRRR  U   U L    EEE   SSS  !! !! !!
R  R   U   U     S H   H    R  R  U   U L    E        S
R   R   UUU   SSS  H   H    R   R  UUU  LLLL EEEE  SSS  !! !! !!

^^^ Is that sufficient penance, everone? :)

No, really, I'm sorry for trashing on Rush last Chalkhills. BUT (this is a
big but) I still don't think they should work with XTC.
/----------------------------Joshua Hall-Bachner----------------------------\
|    |
| "Life is like a jigsaw. You get the straight bits, but there's something  |
\------missing in the middle."--XTC, "All Of A Sudden (It's Too Late)"------/


Message-Id: <v01540b03ae1071ce711f@[]>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 15:30:41 -0700
From: (E.B.)
Subject: Re: Eno, My Hero...How wonderful you are....

>From: DeWitt Henderson <>

>One more comment on Eno and his "atmospherics".  I said before
>that I think he's a good producer, but I just read in the Roxy
>Music page that he was credited with various effects on Bryan
>Ferry's latest, "Mamouna".  I don't know how many of you are
>also Roxy/Ferry fans, but I am, and I find "Mamouna" to be
>endless noodling.  Songs never seem to take off - it's like a
>car that you press the gas down on and it revs up a little
>but never goes.  I don't know how much influence Eno had - I
>realize that Robin Trower was the credited producer (I think),
>but I feel like this is just another reason not to consider ol'

OK, I ADORE Eno and Roxy Music, but Bryan Ferry's solo output just seems to
get worse and worse. As far as I can tell, "Slave To Love" is the only
decent melody he's written since Roxy broke up. The rest is just vaporous,
vamping grooves with no direction whatsoever. So please don't blame this on
Eno -- it's just weak songwriting. Boys And Girls and Bete Noire have the
exact same problem, and Bete Noire is even worse than Mamouna, if you ask
me. Buy These Foolish Things and Let's Stick Together...the other Ferry
albums are really pretty marginal.  :(

Now, as enormous an Eno fan as I am (he means more to me than XTC even,
sorry), I don't think he's the right producer for XTC. As others have
stated, I think someone with more gutsy, non-glossy approach would be an
excellent choice. And Mitchell Froom! Blecch. Let him ruin more
Suzanne Vega albums, but just keep him away from Andy!

I was disappointed that a couple of folks responded to my Blur/XTC comment,
but didn't comment about Wire's "I Am The Fly" vs. "Boys & Girls." Is "Fly"
that obscure a song? Oh well.



Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:21:08 +0800 (SST)
Message-Id: <>
From: Kevin <>

Joshua Hall-Bachner wrote -

>If anyone lets anybody from Rush within five miles of Andy, Colin, or Dave,
>I will be forced to become extremely violent and blow things up. :) I may be
>strange, but I cannot stand Rush at all and don't want any of (what I
>consider) juvenile songwriting and mega-posturing rubbing off on our boys
>>from Swindon. You don't see XTC filling one side of an LP with a song with
>"movements" (and which doesn't even get it's Greek mythology references
>right), do you?

A XTC/Rush collaboration would be fabulous! I mean talk about your
extremes. Pop vs Pomp ! I mean, does Rush even know what a pop song is?

 Paul_Myers wrote -

> ... how bout Brendan O'Brien.  He has
>manned the boards for so many great sounding and original records
>including Matthew Sweet's 100% Fun, Pearl Jam VS, Soundgarden's
>Superunknown, he engineered the Chili Peppers BloodSugarSexMagik, that
>new Stone Temple record that actually sounds good  and various other
>incredible records.   He's currently working with Michael Penn (hurray)
>so maybe it's a good move....

What does O'Brien know about good ol' sixties powerpop? Does his experience
with *ugh* grunge bands like Pearl Jam etc qualify him for the intricacies
and senstivities of XTC's material. I think not! The man would not know
subtlety if it bit him on the arse!Did you say Stone Temple Pilots?
AAARRRRGGGGGH !!!!!!!And you think Rush is bad! NEXT!

Someone wrote -

>Let's get some fresh young upstart producers into the works this time,
>folks. It might just rejuvenate XTC's career.

Yeah, I agree - maybe Brian Wilson. I mean, folks, there's a lot of talk
about the Beatles influence in XTC's work but what about Mr Wilson? The
Smile-like vocal backing on Rook, the God Only Knows-sleighbells on Wrapped
in Grey, The Dukes' fab Pale & Precious and of course Chalkhills & Children
wouldn't be out-of-place on Pet Sounds. So, what do you guys think? I mean,
Andy and Brian would have something in common ...

More thots next time, Kevin.


Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 23:57:21 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Tom X. Chao" <>
Subject: Flame war flare up (minimal XTC)
Message-Id: <>

I see that David Byrne flame war is back.  Yay!

By the way, I believe the "Go2" cover art was designed by Hipgnosis, the
people who designed the Pink Floyd albums "Dark Side of the Moon," "Wish
You Were Here," etc.  Am I right?  If so, that still doesn't mean that the
XTC boys didn't come up with the idea.

Eno is god, but maybe he shouldn't produce any longer.  Look what he did
to Jane Siberry!  She got dropped from Reprise!


Message-Id: <v01540b02ae108b4cb6f0@[]>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 01:04:19 +0100
From: (Peter McCulloch)
Subject: Moulding and Buck

David Gersham writes:

<Unrelatedly, a quick trivia question: What's the only album (I'm pretty
<certain, anyway, and I'm NOT counting any compilations) that features both
<Colin Moulding AND Peter Buck?

That would be Sam Phillip's, "Martinis and Bikinis", though I'm not sure if
they appear on any songs together or not. Any further insight,
chalkhillians? Is my no prize in the mail anyway?


Message-Id: <>
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 1996 12:53:47 -0700
From: John M Rader <>
Subject: XTC Gold CDs, Analog Records from MoFi

Hello and Greetings!

Here is some good news - If you want a Christmas present, either an LP or
a CD, featuring the Alter Egos of The Three Wisemen, a remastering of
Oranges and Lemons is tentatively scheduled for December.  If its only
tentative, I say deluge them with requests at and maybe it
will become official??!!

Since O&L is probably the brightest (as in ear bleeding) (IMO) sounding CD in
the XTC catalog this could allow for many hours of exulting the skills of the
songsmiths without suffering severe aural trauma, and uncover a wealth of
new, previously obscured details in some favorite songs.

Mobile Fidelity did a good job with Skylarking.  Let's hope they can be
convinced to proceed with O&L.

As far as sound goes, no releases, Gold, Japanese, CD, MD or anything else
has come close to the double LP English Settlement, English Import.  The CD
versions I have are worthless except for convenience, and if this is your
favorite XTC album, you haven't heard it unless you've heard this version.
On a mediocre turntable, it will sound superior, on a superior turntable -
you'll know why this version is the best.  If MoFi can approach this standard
for O&L (they didn't with Skylarking), we would really have something special.
Not really MoFi's fault, they can only work with what's there.

Maybe they could release it on the original Skylarking release date as a
tenth anniversary tribute to that album.

"All of a Sudden You find the Cupboards bare" - of new XTC releases.



Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:08:42 -0400
From: (Patty Haley)
Message-Id: <>
Subject: Pass the chewing gum, we're circling the airport again

> From: (huduguru)
> Subject: OK, maybe I WILL talk about monkeys...

> Look at us, dammit!
> We've been waiting for a new album for so long, we've gone insane!
> It's like we're a bunch of chronic smokers stuck on a round-the-world
> flight on a non-smoking airline.

Ah, someone got to make this comment before I did, The last several digests
have barely been worth skimming, considering some of the thread.  Usually
this list is quality, not quantity, but it's taken a turn for the opposite
of late.  Get outside, people, it's summer!

> (y'know, if Mike Nesmith produced the new album.....)

Shame he doesn't play drums, 'cause that way we could have our Monkee
producing and drumming, and finally kill the three threads that need to die.

Now that I've gotten that off my chest:  I was in a record store the other
night trying to find the new Sugarplastic ("Never heard of it" <Sigh>), and
I saw _Carmen Sandiego Out of This World_ for a mere $2.99.  OK, so it's
not as cheap as borrowing it from the library and taping it, but not a bad
bargain bin buy.  Keep your eyes peeled.

Still searching for the Sugarplastic,



Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 08:27:48 -0500 (CDT)
Message-Id: <>
From: Scott Taylor <>
Subject: Fossil Fools

>From: Lee Beddow, Stafford,England
>So, as you can see, there are no new tracks and there are no plans for a
>re-release of an old hit or 2 for the promotion of the album. I also

I'm sure I won't be the first or only one to say this, but, jeez, I'm more
than slightly disappointed.  So do we buy this release, stuffing more cash
into the Virgin coffers, hoping that at least the CD booklet includes
something new?  I wouldn't mind dropping thirty bucks if it had even ONE new
song...  Are any of these even going to be alternate takes or demos or
remixes or ANYTHING other than the same versions we all already have?  If
not, I see no reason to buy it at all.  This would seem to be Virgin's final
slap in everyone's face...

|       Scott M. Taylor       |
|       |
| |


Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 11:37:01 -0700
Message-Id: <>
Subject: Trib Tape Update


  I have been getting some wild stuff!  Pretty much the full spectrum of
  recording quality and production (though I understand that we are
  tackling some of the toughest material to interpret).

  I'm really enjoying this!

  I have a few questions...

  I came to the realization (way too late) that we should probably not
  include "covers" of any of XTCs unreleased demos... as much as all of us
  want to hear the demos, it's a matter of ethics and respect (respect we
  have, ethics... I don't know).

  There were people who planned to do songs that I have never heard.  I
  don't know if they're from EP B-sides, "Jules V." or "Bull, et al" but I
  need to know their source and/or their original release date.

  I plan to put all the songs on the tribute tape in the order that they
  were commercially released.

  The songs in questions are:

  Disque Bleu
  Your Gold Dress
  I'm Bugged
  When We Get To England

  You can reply to me personally at

  Cheers, Richard


Organization: Saint Mary's University
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 14:47:21 GMT-6
Subject: old XTC singles, freedom of speech
Message-ID: <>

Hi Chalkhillsters,

First, a question for all. I was going through a bunch of my old
college stuff yesterday and found two items that I'd forgotten about.
I have the singles of Love on a Farmboy's Wages packaged in the little
wallet as well as Sgt. Rock with the cartoons all over the sleeve.
They are in excellent condition and I would be curious to know their
value. Anyone with info please post to me privately.

Second, I don't like the trend I've seen on the list toward harrassing
others into discontinuing threads, eg. the monkey thing, the six
degrees of separation thing. Who cares if you (or I) don't care for a
particular topic. If people are having a good time engaging in brain
teasers involving xtc, I say have at it. I can skip over them if I'm not
interested. I've been doing that with the producer thread for about
eight issues. I'm bored to death with people's suggestions for
producers and yet I don't jump all over the list saying that others
shouldn't play that game anymore. Let free speech reign on the
internet (and in this digest) and let the threads that don't interest
you run their natural course. They all die eventually. (tearfully) Can't
we all just get along?


No Thugs in Our Digest...


Message-Id: <>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 12:37:27 -0700
From: Bob Estus <>
Subject: Circuitous Gratuitus

James Dignan posted script:
>The Anna was a small coin from India, 1/16 of a Rupee.
>Therefore, Andy is simply saying that the commercial world of "oil, iron,
>steel" is being guided by money. Or maybe he isn't saying that at all!

   I see some value in your interpretation. Let's see what's a rupee going
for these days. A coin is round and circulated. So I still think it supports
my interpretation that Anna was a circular reference.


Message-Id: <>
From: "Peter Fitzpatrick" <>
Subject: re : Dave Gregory on Steve Hogarth album
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 20:48:27 +0100

>>I just heard that Dave Gregory is playing guitars on the upcoming Steve
>>Hogarth (Marillion lead vocalist, Europeans) solo album, along with Richard
>>Barbieri (Porcupine Tree, Rain Tree Crow, Japan) on keyboards.
>>Can anyone confirm this?

All I *do* know is that Steve Hogarth was looking at a recording setup in
Dublin. I was particularly excited when I heard about "some guy from XTC
is looking to record in Dublin".......I started to think that they were
all coming here for the next album......imagine my disappointment when I
found out that it was really just this guy from Marillion who happened to
have one of the XTCrs in tow...........

ah well, maybe next time.......


Message-ID: <>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 96 17:05:00 -0500
From: dgershmn <>
Organization: AMS
Subject: Bags of Fun with Poor Skeleton

Has anyone else noticed a musical resemblance
in portions of "Bags of Fun with Buster" and
"Poor Skeleton Steps Out"? I suspect Andy may
have borrowed from himself a little when
writing the music for "Poor Skeleton"...
naturally, however, the lyrics are QUITE
different. :) Speaking of the "Jesticles,"
who's singing lead on that song?


Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 17:27:53 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <>
From: Joshua Hall-Bachner <>
Subject: FF'ing on XTC Discs

>>The more Go 2 fans the better, of course, so keep up the good work, Adam --
>>but if you can listen to *any* XTC album and think about hitting the FF
>>button, well, all I can say is may Andy have mercy upon you. (insert ASCII
>>smiley-face here...)
>And just so there's no hard feelings about the "FF" problem, keep in mind
>that I like about 85% of what XTC's released, but it just seems that any
>other album has a track I'm not too hot about. Some more than others, I'll
>admit -- ^White Music^ I skip all over the place, but that's just me -- but
>for me, I love every second of ^Go2^.

Hmmm...let's see what my "FF pattern" is.

White Music/Go2: haven't owned long enough/listened to enough to develop a
skip pattern yet.
Drums And Wires: Sometimes I skip "Millions"
Black Sea: Sometimes "Paper and Iron".
English Settlement: "Down In The Cockpit"
Mummer: "Gold"
The Big Express: Sometimes I'll go directly from "This World Over" to
"Smalltown", but not always.
Skylarking: Often "The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul"
Oranges And Lemons: "President Kill"
Rag&Bone Buffet: Hoo-boy. "Extrovert," "Respectable Street" (just 'cause the
Black Sea version is the only *Real* version...:), "Strange Tales," "Officer
Blue," "Cockpit Dance Mixture"
Nonsvch: "The Smartest Monkeys"

So, that's about 15 songs I skip (some only occasionally) out of 292 (all
the songs on the above albums *only*.) Or, 6 2/3% of all the XTC songs on
those albums. I'd say that's a pretty good percentage (especially
considering that one of those CDs is a B-side collection, and contains the
two songs that the band freely admits are the two worst they ever recorded. :)
/----------------------------Joshua Hall-Bachner----------------------------\
|    |
| "Life is like a jigsaw. You get the straight bits, but there's something  |
\------missing in the middle."--XTC, "All Of A Sudden (It's Too Late)"------/


Message-Id: <>
From: "Daniel Johnson" <>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 1996 16:55:54 +0000
Subject: New on the list..

Hi all,

  Do you ever go hunting through your CD collection looking for that
XTC album that you haven't listened to in a very long time...then realize
there's just no such thing.  You realize that you've listened to all
of them so many times, just waiting for that next one to come
around...  That's about how I feel right now...  I went searching on
WWW for some good news about the band - didn't find all that much,
but I did find your list.

So, just thought I'd send a little intro message to other XTCers out there
 on the net!

Daniel Johnson
(btw, I settled on Black Sea in my CD search - and am now enjoying
"No Language in our Lungs")


Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 00:33:40 -0400
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Yay for Yazbek!

I'm just posting to thank David Yazbek for his response to
my inquiry about the Testimonial Dinner tracks that never
happened. It's really cool to be able to ask a question about
an album you like and then get a response from the producer.
I'm new to this Internet thing, so the novelty of it all hasn't
worn off yet.

Is Somesuch the second disc on Fossil Fuel?

-dave (york, pa)


Message-Id: <v01530505ae1234779e9c@[]>
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 17:11:22 +1100
From: (James Dignan)
Subject: producers again (sigh)

Okay... well, half of you seem to say "yay" to Eno, the other half "Nay".
So... how about someone with definite Eno influences, but also his own
distinctive sound that (IMO) would complement xtc's sound? I refer to one
Mr Daniel Lanois... check out his work with everyone from the Neville
Brothers through U2 to Bob Dylan, plus his own two excellent albums,
"Acadie" and "For the Beauty of Wynona".



From: Wolfgang Niehues <>
Organization: Uni Dortmund
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 12:04:43 +0100
Subject: Huduguru's drummer suggestion
Message-ID: <>

Huduguru wrote:
> I really wouldn't mind seeing Prairie Prince have another go at it!

Yeah, right. He did a great job on "The man who sailed around his
soul" (my all time favourite song by XTC!). Why search for anyone
else? ...Mattacks would do fine as well!

But I'm afraid no one will listen to us little XTC-list people
(*SNIF*)...well, let's trust in the band's ability to decide.



Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 96 08:31:00 -0500
From: dgershmn <>
Organization: AMS
Subject: More producers

Okay, Chalkhillites, here are yet a few
more suggestions that I don't think
anyone has brought up yet:

Don Dixon (co-mastermind with Mitch
Easter on the first couple REM albums,
as well as other fine albums, including
his wife, Marti Jones, and his own)

Daniel Lanois (some fine work with
Peter Gabriel, U2, and others -- in
fact, Brett Milano of the Boston
Phoenix said this about him: "...he may
have a niche as the producer who pulls
experimental works out of vital
veterans." Sounds like it might be a
good mixin' match?)

Steve Albini (great at getting good,
raw sounds out of bands...might make
for a more elemental XTC album)

Just thought I'd run them by y'all.

Save me a seat at the Easter Theater,

Dave Gershman


Message-ID: <>
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 96 11:00:00 -0500
From: "McDonnell, Dan E." <>
Organization: RMT Inc.
Subject: what in the world is Carmen Sandiego

I may have missed this, I have been with the list for about 6 months but I
don't remember seeing it.  What is this Carmen Sandiego thing?  With all the
talk about people stumbling across it, I started checking out the children's
sections at my local CD haunts.  After flipping through tons of Raffi,
Barney, and Mickey, I actually found a Carmen Sandiego CD.  It has a bunch
of stuff by a group called Rockappela and a few by some other "groups" I
know nothing about, but nothing by our boys.

Is there more than one?  Are they listed as XTC?  How many tracks do they
have on it (and what are the titles)?  What is the catalog no. of  this
particular release?

Can someone email me with some of this info?

BTW Mr. Yazbeck, distribution of your CD is improving.  It has made it to
Best Buy here in South Carolina.

TTFN (speaking of children)


Message-Id: <>
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 10:22:55 -0700
From: Bob Estus <>
Subject: More tail chasing

From: (Simon Sleightholm)
>Is Anna not simply a contraction of Andy's then wife's name Marianne?

If Marianne was Andy's contraction she was bound by a ring and therefore
holds the hoop as the domineering female in "Me and the Wind".

Okay, I'll stop,


Date: Wed, 17 Jul 1996 18:07:23 -0400
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Subject: Out Of The Shadows

After almost a month of lurking in dark corners, observing the comings and
goings in the Land of the Chalk Hills, I have been forced out into the light
by the appearance of my name (at the top no less!) in Phil Corless's t-shirt
list. Incidentally, thanks again Phil for your time and assistance in that
particular area. So I now feel obliged to contribute my thoughts on some of
the topics under discussion (definitely NO simian references!).

*PERSONAL*   38 year old Scotsman, who works for the Inland Revenue ::: short
pause to allow booing & hissing to subside :::. I have been an XTC fan since
way back in the days of the - 3DEP- , and own every Album/Single etc released
in the UK (or thought I did, see *FOSSIL FUEL*), and am currently updating
earlier album releases with their CD equivalent.

*DEMOS*   There are frequent references on this list to various demo tapes.
As others have asked, how do you get hold of these? There seems to be a
closed circle who swap tapes among themselves to the exclusion of us mere
mortals. How do you get started?
The Elite must at one time have also been in the position of being demo-less.
Thoughts please.

*PRODUCER*   An obscure suggestion for producer of the next album - Nick
Heyward. His most recent album - Tangled - was self produced, and is a far
cry from his pop days as leader of Haircut100. Even if you don't fancy him as
a producer, give the album a listen as it is really good and contains a
couple of songs that I could imagine the boys doing.

*FOSSIL FUEL*   Major respect is due to Lee Beddow for the work he is doing
in our name on this subject. However, his recent track-listing for the album
gave me quite a shock. When was - Wrapped In Grey - released as a single????
I long ago gave up reading the weekly music press, but still read most of the
monthly titles. Also, rarely a week goes by without me scouring the local
record shops for new and interesting releases. Has this one passed me by
completely? If so, what were the other tracks on the CD single, and can
anyone provide the catalogue number? All help greatfully received.

*IMPORTS*   As with the single above, I was totally unaware of - A
Testimonial Dinner -
until I joined Chalkhills. After a round trip of 100 miles, I finally tracked
down a copy in HMV, Princes Street, Edinburgh. #19 well spent. I have seen
references to an album - Without The Beatles - what is the XTC connection
here, and also with the Carmen Sandiego thing?

Well that's enough aimless rambling for now. Please feel free to e-mail me on
any of the above matters, or anything else.

Cheerio the noo'

Bill Campbell (

   I have a feelin' something's cooking


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