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Subject: Chalkhills Digest #2-129


         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 2, Number 129

                  Saturday, 29 June 1996

Today's Topics:

                     Tenuous Thread ?
                        No Tours?
                In Defense Of "Monkeys"...
        Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-128 (no, really)
                   girls, bass, monkeys
                 Answer to Relph re:Weckl
                      Thanks to all!
                     Go2...Favorite?
                     Drums and Stuff
              Praising with faint damnation
                  Re: Squeezing Paul...
                 Daylight musical robbery
                  The other three Bears
                   A Bevy of Responses
  No XTC content, but we've got to end this discussion.
                         producer
                     more on th' boys
                      Best Buy, etc.
                   Carnivorous Concrete
                       Re: Drummers

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Message-Id: <199606280904.LAA14291@utrecht.knoware.nl>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <mmello@knoware.nl>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:03:59 +0000
Subject: Tenuous Thread ?

Dear Chalkies,

Hats off for James Dignan!
His tour de force - linking XTC with Swindon - must rank as the most
tenuous link possible.

Here's another one : XTC were produced by John Leckie, who also
produced dutch band the Tapes, who had a record deal with Passport.
This was also the label of Larry Fast ( i think he even owned it )
who used to play in this band called Utopia with this guy called Todd
Rundgren who went on to produce XTC.

There you are...full circle!

I like this developing thread a lot...beats discussing the musical
merits of the likes of U2 or REM all the time :)
Seriously folks, I think we should try to beef up the XTC content
in our postings!
After all, they never cease to amaze and amuse us.

And on a slightly related note: some people could be a bit more
careful when they vent their likes/dislikes.
Feelings are easily hurt! - so watch it Josh! :)

And on a totally different note: all those young whippersnappers
(under-30's ) should take note that if it were not for the support
of the old timers (over 30's) during all these years, our heroes
would probably have thrown in the towel long ago.

bye 4 now,

m@rk

===> Mark's useless XTC quote for today <==
Me and the wind are pulling kites and pushing trees

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Message-Id: <199606281010.MAA05508@leonardo.lls.se>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:14:18 -0500
From: johanb <johanb@lls.se>
Subject: No Tours?

Simon Sleightholm/Mark Fisher wrote:

>Subject: No Tours

>I don't think playing live is any longer the answer for XTC. They were
>brilliant when they did tour, but their subsequent material is not designed
>for the live environment.

>Having just witnessed a report of a "punk weekend" in Brighton on VH-1 (back
>in the pub again) I concur with Mark on this. To see Jimmy Pursey of Sham 69
>and Jake Burns of Stiff Little Fingers belting out their nigh-on-20 year old
>"hits" was a bit tragic. Forever constricted by the "punk" format and
>weighed down with an audience who wish this was 1976, they have progressed
>not one jot.

Well, XTC have progressed a lot haven't they? You can't compare
XTC with some retarded punk band!

>It would have been terrible if XTC had allowed themselves to be
>restricted in such a way.

I'm sorry Mick & Simon, but I think your opinions in this quest-
ion are complete bullshit.:)
They didn't CHOOSE to stop touring, they were forced to because of
Partridge's stagefright! I think that some of XTC's current mat-
erial would be great to hear live. I can't see any problems with
performing the newer material live, not with todays technology.
I've seen Paul McCartney perform Beatles songs from the late
sixties period that I heard were supposedly too "complex" to per-
form live, and it was brilliant. So, I'm really looking forward
to see XTC live, and hopefully they will play a couple of gigs
here in Sweden!
/JOHAN B.

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Message-Id: <v01530501adf9001b9dca@[206.86.6.87]>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 04:39:31 +0100
From: sunhouse@best.com (John Wedemeyer)
Subject: In Defense Of "Monkeys"...

     Say whatever you will about "The Smartest Monkeys".....but you must
admit; Dave Mattacks grooves like a MOFO on that tune!! (Colin, too for
that matter). And I LOVE the synth solo!! Definitely one of XTC's funkier
tunes....
     By the way, does anyone out there have, or know of, any Colin demos
for the new album(s)?? I've heard alot of new Andy stuff, but I have yet to
hear anything from Mr. Moulding. I did read a few new titles in "The Little
Express", just wondering if any of these have made their way onto tape.
     Any help would be MUCH appreciated!!
                 Best Wishes,
                    John W.(sunhouse@best.com)
  P.S. Counting the days 'till the "Pet Sounds" box-set release!!!

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:21:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: Natalie Jane Jacobs <gnat@umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-128 (no, really)
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.91.960628101444.9411B-100000@choplifter.rs.itd.umich.edu>

I think that as a title for the next album, XTC should take their cue from
LL Cool J and call it "Don't Call It a Comeback! We've Been Here for
Years!"

I was reading a Kate Bush FAQ (I'm not a fan, I was just getting the URL
for a friend and decided to read the thing) and saw that the supposed
motto of Kate Bush fans is "Any day now."  Shouldn't that be *our*
motto?  After all, we've got a cool tune to set it to...

(Irrelevant aside - why do Kate Bush fans often spell her name "kaTe"?
Should we start talking about aNdY, CoLin, and daVe?)

This thing with stringing bands together and leading to unlikely
connections is similar to a custom called "Baconizing," based on the
principle that Kevin Bacon is the center of the entertainment universe -
every actor can be traced back to him.  XTC can be very easily Baconized,
since they did "Happy Families" for "She's Having a Baby," in which Bacon
starred.

Natalie Jacobs
http://www-personal.umich.edu/~gnat
* -----------------------------------
"Exuberance is Beauty." - Wiliam Blake

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Message-Id: <v0213056fadf98f2bfed8@[128.89.11.23]>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:33:38 -0500
From: abissaro@bbn.com (Andrew Bissaro)
Subject: girls, bass, monkeys

Hi, y'all

>The Indigo Girls the new Lennon/McCartney?

Yes.  Since I brought it up, allow me to explain:
* First, they're a duo of songwriters.
* One (E. Saliers) has a high, sweet voice, and writes songs with charming
melodies and uplifting lyrics.  The other (A. Ray) is more intense, has a
deeper, grittier voice, and writes songs that are darker, more mysterious.
They temper each others' songs in exactly the same way John and Paul did.
* Their harmonies are just as irresistable and inventive; the arrangements
on their latest album are as lush and adventurous as anything the beatles
or xTc have done.
* Fans--and they're as fanatically devoted as the Beatles' fans, trust me--
discuss which of them are their favorite (mine is Emily), analyze the tunes
in much the same way we do Beatles and xTc songs...
* Furthermore now they have a rhythm section (Sara Lee, Jerry Marotta)
that, IMHO, is the best pop music rhythm section out there...it ain't jus'
for folkies, no sir...  Check out the live "1200 Curfews" to see what I
mean...
* Finally, their best music brings tears to my eyes, much like John and
Paul.  Sorry to get sappy on you, but it's true.

>Mitchell Froom, King of the Grating Gimmick Percussion, producing XTC?

Have you heard Froom since the album that turned you off?  Check out the
new Richard Thompson: you'll find the percussion to your liking.  Mitchell
is growing up--maybe marrying Suzanne Vega has made him a bit earthier.
He'd likely be a good producer for xTc--he's getting good at stripping it
down, while achieving polished results.  However, my pick for producing xTc
would be Rick Rubin as well.   At this point, he'd give them the shoeing in
the nuts they're desperately needing.

>I think I must've eaten some bad mushrooms...I'm hallucinating.

Doesn't sound bad to me...8>)

>6.  Whoever said Andy Rourke was a great bassist had it absolutely right.  So
>is Mike Mills of REM.  But if you guys want some serious bass playing, listen
>to Michael Mannring or Victor Wooten or Jaco Pastouris.  Those guys kick Tony
>Levin's behind.

Well, aside from the fact that you refer to the Chalkhills' readership as
"guys," aside from your misspellings of Manring and Pastorius, aside from
the fact that bassists who play at that level don't "kick each other's
behind" (or even THINK that way), and aside from the fact that
Mills/Rourke/Levin/Wooten/Manring/Pastorius cover so much stylistic ground
that they really can't be compared (furthermore, they're all "Serious"
bassists), you have great taste in bass players!

By the way, Robert Fripp looks back on his meeting and auditioning of Tony
Levin as one of the best musical experience of his life.

>1) The thing about monkeys is old and stale. I don't need yet another song
>about people = monkeys.

Jeez, Joshua, I'm sorry but I don't exactly see the pop music world overrun
by monkey-men.   Did your parents make you watch "Inherit the Wind" ad
nauseam as a child?  Were you raised by fundamentalist Bible-thumpers?
Could you all please enlighten me on the surfeit of monkey-men songs that
have been plaguing pop music all these years (Aside from "Monkeys in
Humanskin Suits" of course)?

Cheers and all that,
Andrew

Andrew Bissaro
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http://www.bbn.com
abissaro@bbn.com
(617) 873-3024
"I do everything from the heart, from personal conviction. If you try to
find love by charting a course, you'll never find it."  --Van Cliburn

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 10:36:47 -0400
Message-ID: <1D3F2CA0.@messaging.tfn.com>
From: barkerw@messaging.tfn.com (Welton Barker)
Subject: Answer to Relph re:Weckl

     >From: relph (John Relph)
     >Subject: Sundried Divers
     >
     >Who in the world is Dave Weckl?

     He is my vote for the next drummer for XTC. Okay, I know it's a
     farfetched idea, but Dave Weckl is the man I believe to be the best
     drummer alive. He is a GRP artist (yeah, he does jazz stuff), but he
     is also capable of the most ridiculous yet at the same time tasteful
     grooves I have ever heard. He has a number of solo albums available on
     GRP, which are heavily funk-influenced fusion, but he also does an
     enormous amount of session work and seems capable of performing in any
     style with taste and alacrity.

     And then, of course, in the same vein there is always Dennis Chambers
     (recently with John McLaughlin's organ trio)...

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 09:35:00 +0000
From: cthulhu.engr.sgi.com!sgi.engr.sgi.com!omny.attmail.com!OGILVY!OMANY3!liemanir (Lieman, Ira - O&M NY)
Subject: Thanks to all!
Message-ID: <MS-MAILG-2.00-Note-omny-liemanir-0835973271>

First of all, thanks to the legions of people that came to my aid with info
on how to get the Carmen Sandiego album. I really appreciate everyone's
help, and this reason is why I think I'm still on this list! Sure, the
mostly intelligent banter is also a selling point. But I ordered the disc
yesterday and I'll let you know what happened. :)

And an unsolicited plug...
For those who didn't get 'em last go-round, Phil's Chalkhills shirt is quite
cool. You actually might see me wearing one if you're anywhere near the
greater New York area -- no, I haven't worn it to work yet, but I sometimes
like to wander around Manhattan. If you see me wearing it, stop me and say
"Howdy!"

OBLIGATORY XTC REFERENCE: The next album should be called "Phoenix." Besides
the fact that it's part of the last line of the last song of the last album,
it could also refer to the band's (heh) Loss of Virginity, so to speak. Up
>from the flames that was Richard Branson's record label.

Later!

 -ira (aym@intercall.com, but I'm at work now.)

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Message-ID: <1DEFD62F01291300@ametsoc.org>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 96 12:17:00 -0500
From: dgershmn <dgershmn@ametsoc.org>
Organization: AMS
Subject: Go2...Favorite?

I was just curious: I've heard opinions
from various people in the list who
consider one XTC album or another to be
their favorite. I think each of the
albums has been considered to be
SOMEBODY's favorite, with one
exception: I have yet to hear anyone
claim that "Go2" is their favorite XTC
album. Is there anyone out there for
who can say that it is?
 For the record, I enjoy it, but I
can't say it's my favorite.

Dave Gershman
"Are you receiving me?"

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 96 12:04:33 CDT
From: "Bernhardt, Todd" <tbernhardt@aga.com>
Message-Id: <9605288359.AA835985668@cc.perftech.com>
Subject: Drums and Stuff

Howdee, Chalkaholix:

From: "Peter Fitzpatrick" <beatle@indigo.ie>:
>ok, I give up.
>My attempts to recreate THAT drum pattern have been apalllllling. I've
>stooped to sampling it.......tried writing it down.......ARRGH! Can
>anyone help me with this ? a transcription ? midi file ?

Okay, Peter, I'm not so great with notation (and I wouldn't know
how to do it via e-mail), but I think "Nigel" goes like this:

Play eighth notes on the floor tom (with your right hand, if
you're a right-handed drummer); with your left hand, play the
"and" before "1" and "2" on the hi-hat; play the kick drum on the
"1" and "2"; play the snare on the "3". That's it, basically.
Every fourth bar, play the hi-hat accents on some toms and accent
the snare hit with a cymbal (a china cymbal sounds really good there).

From: relph (John Relph)
>barkerw@messaging.tfn.com (Welton Barker) asks:
>>     How about Dave Weckl?
>Who in the world is Dave Weckl?

John! I'm surprised at you! Dave Weckl is one of the most BADASS
drummers in the world at this particular moment. He is one of a
handful who can basically do anything they want on the kit.

However, he's primarily a jazz and/or fusion player and, IMHO,
would be completely inappropriate for an XTC album, much as
Bill Bruford, Simon Phillips, Dennis Chambers or little Stuie
Copeland would be...

The boys need someone a little more low key, used to working in a pop music
situation, willing to support the song and show off his or her
technique only when needed ... Pete Thomas, anyone?  (okay, okay, I'll
shut up about him, already)

From: richard.pedrettiallen@octel.com
>It is surprisingly easy to make a relatively short, startling connection
>once you connect with a diverse producer (like Eno, Lillywhite), a session
>musician (like Chris Spedding, John Paul Jones or Jimmy Page) or someone
>who fronts a band of ever-changing personnel (like Sting, Byrne or Bowie).
>How about...
>XTC-David Byrne-John Goodman-Rosanne!

Richard, I'm ROTFL, but I think playing on the same bill with someone does
not a connection make. I think the rules of the game should be that the two
should actually be in the same band or on the same album together.

From: gondola@deltanet.com (E.B.)
>PS  By the way, you folks have taught me something. I never realized until
>recently that XTC albums were named after a line from the previous album.
>Wow, neat! How far back does this trend go?

Just back to Skylarking, where Oranges and Lemons comes from. What I'd like
to know is whether this is intentional or coincidence. Perhaps someone who
knows the man hisself (Mitch? Are you listening?) could ask...

From: Dik LeDoux <dik@ICON-INC.NET>:
>SOMEONE MENTION THE BEARS?
>Check 'em out if you ever get a chance - those that burn twice as bright
>burn half as long, and the Bears were b-r-i-g-h-t.  If some of you cannot
>find the albums (this was before CDs were big, and I doubt that any of it
>was reprinted), then email me directly and I'll get with you on a tape or
>something.  I saw them in New Orleans at Tipitina's and am still in awe.
>You XTC fans would like 'em.

Agreed. I have seen some albums in CD format, so keep looking. Also, I
believe that the Bears morphed into a band called the Psychodots, and
have sites devoted to them on the web that you can find through most
Adrian Belew-related links.

From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan):
>Hmmm... Andy Partridge to Harold Budd (Through the Hill) to Brian Eno
>(Eno/Budd) to Francis Monkman (801). Monkman is thanked for providing Moog
>Synthesiser for the BeeGees travesty version of Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts
>Club Band.
<etc...>
Now, that's more like it! I guess winter has arrived down under
and you have the time to think these things out, eh, James?

Enuf from me.. ByeBye!

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Message-Id: <199606281631.JAA20078@sgi.sgi.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 96 11:52:36 EDT
From: Melissa Reaves <MREAVES@KENTVM.KENT.EDU>
Subject: Praising with faint damnation

So we've heard something negative about The Laughing Man.
kinterkn@winternet.com (Priscilla) sez part of Tomorrow reminds her of
the theme from Green Acres.
fisher@easynet.co.uk (Mark Fisher) hates Pinoccio's Nose.
Mrs. Todd Bernhardt thinks he repeats "Fight the one-armed man" too much.

My, my.  Such strong words.

No, this confirms it even more.  No one has come to me privately and
said, Ya know, that Laughing Man stuff really sucks!  We are unanimous.

(I'm not even going to tel you what I think Fight the One-Armed Man
is about.  And it's not the Fugitive or Twin Peaks.)

Moving on so I don't get accused of making this the Yazbek list,
I think I'll make it the Belew list instead.

dik@ICON-INC.NET (Dik LeDoux)  recommends the Bears very highly. But
in the past tense.  They're still around as the local Cincinnati band
they always were.  When Belew was with them (which was intermittently)
they were the Bears.  When he was doing other things, they called
theselves the Raisins.  Now they've taken to calling themselves
the Psychodots and are still quite good.  I don't know how widely
the song Fear is Never Boring was played outside Cincinnati (there's
a version on a Raisins record as well as one by the Bears) but
my husband considers it the most perfect pop song ever.
Anyone know it?

Belew's solo stuff is to be recommended to XTC fans as well.
Unfortunately few of the individual records are in print, but
there is a compilation CD out there with some of the best of...
on it.

Now who is this list about again?  Oh yeah.  Those guys.  Well
what have they done for us lately?  (kidding)

On the AP demos, they are incredible, aren't they?  Someone
mentioned The Last Balloon. He (andy)'d better get his pronunciation

enunciated.  It sounds very Nazi-era as it stands.

  >Climb aboard, climb aboard Jew women.  You won't need any
   gems or furs...

Oh well.  Once we've hired the producer, we'll make sure that's
taken care of.

Take care.

Like us men, like us men, will they ever like us men?

--Melissa

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 18:41:20 +0200 (MES)
From: Klaus Bergmaier <h8903545@zechine.wu-wien.ac.at>
Subject: Re: Squeezing Paul...
Message-Id: <Pine.A32.3.91.960628183519.17478A-100000@zechine.wu-wien.ac.at>

Todd Bernhardt wrote about Paul McCartney being a great bass player in
his days, but being a bit of a pud now. Please listen to Don't Say
Goodnight Tonight (1979) or his (His) latest live albums. I heard and saw
him playing live, what he does on tunes like Paperback Writer ( beside
and while singing!) is a great job.
BTW, when I listened to Anthology 2 (especially Taxman - "if you drive a
car..."), I realized, how truly great he is.
All uf you forget Yes' Chris Squire!
A great producer for XTC: Trever Horn, the greatest of them all!
That's it for today!
Klaus

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Message-Id: <199606281647.BAA01810@patton.gate.asahi-net.or.jp>
Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 01:55:54 +0900
From: mn8t-mls@asahi-net.or.jp (Ted Mills)
Subject: Daylight musical robbery

>Pertinent Musical Question No. 4,681: Does this type of larceny bother
>anyone? And why? Where is the line of good taste drawn? Why are some
>artists lauded (or at least forgiven) for their "interpretations" or
>"influences" of other bands while others get lambasted for their
>borrowing habits?

The criteria seem to be:

Is the artist' original ideas better?

and

Is it done with any wit?

Take Lenny Kravitz for example!
Or don't, actually, because he's crrrrrrap.

Ted

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Crystal Mansion 201                         AAAAAAAAGHGHGHAWWAHHHHHHH!!"
Shimotakatsu 2-3-21                        - Yamatsuka Eye, The Boredoms
Tsuchiura-shi, Ibaraki-ken
Japan 300                                   mn8t-mls@asahi-net.or.jp
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From: RandyXpher@aol.com
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 13:02:30 -0400
Message-ID: <960628130229_423686081@emout16.mail.aol.com>
Subject: The other three Bears

In response to the question "whatever happened to The Bears":

The three Bears who weren't Adrian Belew came from a legendary Cincinnati
area band called The Raisins  (Adrian has roots in the Cincy/Northern
Kentucky area).  After the Bears' breakup, they came back to Cincinnati and
began playing around town as The Raisins again, then shortly after changed
their name to Psychodots.  Under this name, they have released three CDs, the
latest of which is "Awkwardsville", which you *really* should have.  They
still play around Cincinnati, and if you're in the neighborhood, you owe it
to yourself to see 'em live.

Psychodots' web site: http://sushi.st.usm.edu/~hamorris/pdots.html

NotLame Records' web site, from whom you can get all three 'dots CDs and
hundreds of other ace pop/powerpop releases: http://www.tesser.com/notlame/

XTC content: uh... I like Smartest Monkeys.

That's all I've got,

RC

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 96 09:50:59 PST
From: "Sean Robison" <sean_robison@studio.disney.com>
Message-Id: <9605288359.AA835982679@ccmsmtp2.wds.disney.com>
Subject: A Bevy of Responses

Lesse, where do I begin...

1. The Smartest Monkeys - apparently, this is not a "grey area"
song. either you love it or hate it. I like the lyrics because they
approached a tired song theme - "society's screwed" - from a different
angle. Instead of the usual blatant straightforward "oh, woe is man," it
approached it with a great sense of sarcasm and cynicism, "we should be
proud of our accomplishments 'cuz we can now sleep on park benches and find
nutrition out of the rubbish bins" (you have to read that with a sarcastic
tone, else it sounds like I've interpreted the song as a glorification of
homelessness...). It may be a tired theme, but it was done interestingly,
with a music background.

2. Producers - while I still have my votes behind Rick Rubin, Brian Eno
would be a VERY interesting choice. Most, if not all, the albums he's
produced have such an eclectic spin to them. Putting his tastes alongside
Andy and Colin's above average musical senses could produce a very
experimental, unique album. However, i'd like to see this collaboration a
couple of albums down the line. After all of us having to endure such a
long gap between discs, I think we all need to hear some good
straightforward music that XTC does best.

3. Songs Ya Just Don't Like - there's only one XTC I find I skip over -
"The Sonambulist". While the tone of the song fits the concept of
sleepwalking, I'm just not keen on unmelodic, droning tunes.

4. Green Acres - I might be wrong, but weren't the lead actors Eddie ALBERT
and ZSA ZSA Gabor? And, of course, the burning question: "What would the
Green Acres theme sound like had XTC covered it?"

See ya's

Sean Robison

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 12:39:45 -0500 (CDT)
Message-Id: <199606281739.MAA03672@sky.net>
From: Scott Taylor <staylor@sky.net>
Subject: No XTC content, but we've got to end this discussion.

This has to stop.  Add it to the FAQ if necessary.

1. Green Acres featured Eddie Albert, not Eddie Fisher.
2. The pig was Arnold Ziffle, not Arnold Zukerman
3. Your favorite character was Eb, not Zeb.

(Jeez, did any of you guys actually watch this show?)

Now for near-XTC content, can anyone here identify the episode on which Jeff
Beck guest starred or the character he played?

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 11:27:59 -0700 (PDT)
From: Stephen Mahoney <stephenm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
Subject: producer
Message-ID: <Pine.SUN.3.91.960627181913.26197A-100000@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>

I've got it!!!!!!!!
have Lee" Scratch" Perry produce...then we can look forward to another
album full of dubs to follow( or would the dubs make the cut and the
"normal" tracks be released at another time.....
as far as bass players go, besides liking Colin's work, Jah Wobble has
some interesting sounds and now for an obscure selection.....Fred Chandler
of the band Caveman Shoestore who plays a bass with heavy distortion,
fingering the frets hammering like mad and playing it as a lead guitar....
it's very interesting...they ( caveman Shoestore) put out an album with Hugh
Hopper(Soft Machine) last year called Caveman Hughscore available on Tim
Kerr records....in case anyone is interested.
this talk of a tape tree sounds interesting since I've never heard any of
Andy's demo's and salavate at the thought of having " Jules Verne" on my
stereo.						-Stephen Mahoney
						Portland, Or.

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Message-Id: <199606282000.OAA29775@mailhost.lanl.gov>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 14:02:31 -0600
From: dewitth@lanl.gov (DeWitt Henderson)
Subject: more on th' boys

'ello again.  Re: Joshua Hall-Bachner & "the 4 XTC albums I own", and
someone's comment about "Lack of Early XTC Album Syndrome"!  Yes, this
can be a debilitating disease!  Run out and get "Black Sea" as well.

Speaking of that, I must admit that even though I own most XTC CD's and
have heard the few I don't have, I've never heard Go!2 or White Music.
Can some Chalkhillians give me a few pros & cons on these 2???
Please, no flamers for being so profoundly uncultured & ignorant...

And speaking of Chalkhillians - you can all take a brief bow, because
I'd like to complement our whole group for giving me an outlet to read
about and discuss some good producers, good bands, good musicians, etc.
I bring this up because although I have a friend or two who's into good
(read offbeat) music, most of my friends/relatives don't even know who
most of these people ARE, much less being familiar with their music,
willing to give a listen, etc.

Theatre references - as 1 person said, maybe lots of us are at least a
little artistically leaning, but not necessarily all theatre majors. I'm
a big theatre fan, at least.

Finally, big thanx to Richard Pedretti-Allen for his hilarious "XTC
connections" in the last Digest, and Phil Corless for doing another batch
of t-shirts!  (I bow down, Phil, & a check will be in the mail!!!).

______________________________________________________
Shirley Herrera
CIC-13
MS P223, 505/667-9699
Herrera_Shirley@lanl.gov

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Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:06:24 -0400
From: WES HANKS <W_HANKS@wow.com>
Subject: Best Buy, etc.
Message-ID: <199606282306_MC1-4EC-42C1@compuserve.com>

Fellow chalkies,
I acquired a Canadian cd of the BBC concert at Best Buy for $9.99.
I'll put my votes in for Belew or Eno as producers.
Jason & the Argonauts is one of the XTC songs that IMHO is like going on
vacation every time I listen to it. Such pleasure.

Be Well,
Wes

"Fear Is Never Boring" - The Bears

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Message-ID: <31D4C85D.6B66@interpath.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 1996 23:08:29 -0700
From: "Charles Lee Lovingood, Jr." <lognsdad@interpath.com>
Subject: Carnivorous Concrete

Hello....
A few random chalk lines.....
New album.... Here's a title, "A Different Kind Of Tinsel". Huh? Eh? Kind
of like the Buzzcocks "Different Kind Of Tension." Ironic? You be the
judge.
Producer..... Has Roddy Frame ever produced somone else? Dolby is a good
choice/suggestion.
Question.... I posed this one to you before, but no response. "Explode
Together." Is it worth it?
Apology... Sorry that this post has nothing to do with carnivorous
concrete. It just sounded cool.
Last but not least................... Green Acres ......................
				Cast of characters
				Eddie Albert (not Fisher - Oliver Wendall
				Douglas
				Eva Gabor - Lisa Douglas
				?????? - Eb Dawson (Not Zeb)
				?????? - Fred Ziffel
				?????? - Doris Ziffel
				Arnold Ziffel as himself
				Pat Buttram - Mr. Haney
				?????? - Sam Drucker
				?????? - Newt Kiley
				?????? - Joe Carson
				?????? - Alf Monroe
				?????? - Ralph Monroe
				?????? - Hank Kimball (Well, it's not
                                Hank Kimball. Wait! Come to think of it,
                                yes it is!
				Henrietta the Hen as herself
				Elenore the Cow as herself, too.
Whew! Perhaps now we will see no more mistakes in talking about such a
classic piece of television.

Ooh Ooh! Almost forgot. You may already know this, But Mr. Yazbek
produced the "Carmen Sandiego" disc of which there has been a bit of
discussion lately. (They Might Be Giants produced themselves, however.)
David also plays and sings on Cherry Cherry.

"Pour a little soul now, right into the bowl now...."
Lee "The new Finn Brothers disc is pretty cool" Lovingood

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Date: Sat, 29 Jun 1996 09:50:06 -0600 (MDT)
From: Big Earl Sellar <splitred@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca>
Subject: Re: Drummers
Message-Id: <Pine.A32.3.91.960629094833.27887A-100000@fn1.freenet.edmonton.ab.ca>

Howdy!

I've said it once and I'll say it again: Pete Thomas.

Or else Tommy Ardolino.

Just as long as the record comes out soon...Later...

EEEEEEE Big Earl Sellar - splitred@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca
EE 			"If all that ash
EEEE 	 	 	 Used to be hash
EE  	 	 	 What the heck time
EEEEEE 	 	 	 Is it now?"
Current Temperature: +17C		- ASH HASH - Bob Snider

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