Precedence: bulk
Subject: Chalkhills Digest #2-121

         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 2, Number 121

                   Monday, 10 June 1996

Today's Topics:

              Adrian Coney or Island Belew?
                 Another recurring theme
                    Video Tree Update
               The Worst Band In The World
                    XTC "selling out"
                       Jane Siberry
                        age thing
                   New Colin's Hermits!
                      I'm a lazy dog
                 Re: Fire! Fire! Heh heh!
                     XTC is not alone
               The best song never written
                  Top Ten Composer Poll
                  Making Plans for Nigel
                        Cover Art
         Colin's Hermits on "Without The Beatles"
                    Sorry, Mr. Yazbek
                     Trains and Music
             Bass/Bungalow/Bob Clearmountain
                   Semisonic interview
                 drums&wireless vs. BBC1
                      Godly Nonsuch


 * Make sure the subject of your message reflects the content.
   Do not to use the default subject, which seems to be
   "Re: Chalkhills Digest #2-120".  Rather, change the subject
   of your posting to refer to the original subject, for
   example, "Re: The Big Express Sucks!".

To UNSUBSCRIBE from the Chalkhills mailing list, send a message to
<> with the following command:

        unsubscribe chalkhills

For all other administrative issues, send a message to:


Please remember to send your Chalkhills postings to:


World Wide Web: ""

The views expressed herein are those of the individual authors.

The disappointed / All congregate at my house.


Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 06:29:25 -0500
From: "James E. Hartman" <>
Subject: Adrian Coney or Island Belew?

As written in Digest #2-120...

>Subject: When Coney was the World
>The museum was recently forced to relocate because MacDonalds bought out
>the building from their landlord (even though there is an already standing
>macDonalds not 10 feet away).

...and thus, another Great Secret of McDonald's is revealed: McDonald's is
one of the world's largest land owning companies.  They will do anything
and everything they can to OWN the land their restaurants sit on, most of
it being in rather prime commercial locations.  That land is worth a lot
of cash.  They probably made the landlord an offer he couldn't refuse.


Yeah, I'd like to hear Adrian Belew as a producer of the next XTC album,
except AFAIK he's busy with his own soon-to-be-out solo effort and with
King Crimson for the next year or so.  Do we want to wait that long for
more XTC?  And, has anyone actually mentioned it to him that him and XTC
would be a good combination?
      James E. Hartman | Austin, TX, USA |
"[N]o society, no matter how liberal its laws may appear to be, will allow its
                basic concepts to be challenged with impunity."
              -- Robert A. Heinlein, "Stranger in a Strange Land"


Message-Id: <>
From: JoE Silva <>
Subject: BeLeW
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 96 08:46:17 EDT


   Recently chatted with sir Belew and he made mention of
his great affection for Andy and XTC's music (he says they're
one of the few bands that he keeps up with these days...).
He'd apparently would really like to work with Andy sometime in
the future when his schedule allows. When I mentioned to him
Andy's being known as a bit "difficult" to work with, he laughed
and said he didn't think he would have that problem with him at all.
Problem is Adrian's current King Crimson lineup is touring until
early fall all around the globe. Still you never know....

JoE Silva
Senior Contributor
Consumable Online

"BanG BanG" - Maxwell


Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 11:00:15 -0400 (EDT)
From: Natalie Jane Jacobs <>
Subject: Another recurring theme
Message-ID: <>

This has probably been pointed out before, but I've noticed that XTC do a
lot of songs about work, economic realities, money, etc.: "Love on a
Farmboy's Wages," "Paper and Iron," "Earn Enough for Us," "Day In Day
Out" (my personal theme song), "Work" and its flipside "Leisure," "The
Meeting Place" ("You're a working girl now..."), "Washaway," one of the
demos that, of course, I haven't actually heard, and probably others that are
slipping my mind right now.  I think it's interesting that a band that
chooses to work in a style of music (pop) often associated with being
lightweight and ephemeral can write such gritty and realistic songs about
everyday life.  Economics undermine the traditional love song, add fury
and bitterness to social commentary, and generally give the impression
that XTC have *been there*, which they probably have.

Are there other bands that write about work and money on a consistent
basis?  My brain is failing me right now.

Natalie Jacobs
Reality dies at dawn!


Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 12:03:10 -0600
Message-Id: <>
From: Erik Anderson <>
Subject: Video Tree Update

Well, I just sent out another batch of videos and have about 20 more to do.
Time will be tight over the next month -- plus my second VCR has totally
quit for good -- so look for them around the beginning of August.

I have everyone's name and address who sent their money order so don't
worry, you will receive your copy.  And for those of you who feel the need
to slam me for being late, well, I don't see you doing anything for the
members of this list!



Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:21:28 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: The Worst Band In The World
Message-ID: <>

  I like the idea of XTC covering "The Worst Band In The World" on a 10cc
tribute, but somehow I see Colin singing it. With Andy yawping occasional
backup vocals a la "Making Plans For Nigel." Colin: "Never mind the roadies!"
Andy: "Leave them in the van!"


Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 15:32:59 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: XTC "selling out"
Message-ID: <>

  About XTC "selling out" with one surefire sugary hit: I'm sure they're
capable of it musically, they just insist on putting these really
demanding lyrics to even their most poppy stuff. A hit single on their terms
is not outside the realm of possibility though, especially when you consider
that the likes of The Goo Goo Dolls and The Red Hot Chili Peppers have
had hit singles recently. "Senses Working Overtime" and "Mayor Of Simpleton"
both made the top 50, I believe, as did "Dear God"(on the basis of its
notoriety and subject matter, I presume). I'm surprised "King For A Day"
wasn't a major worldwide hit. Slickest piece of pop they ever did, until
they topped it with "The Disappointed." Best Tears For Fears rip I've
ever heard, and that's not necessarily a compliment; I'm no great fan of
Tears For Fears, nor "KFAD." Maybe that's what the recent Roland and Curt
reference refers to- begging Roland and Curt not to go after Colin for
  If XTC wants a straight old sappy love song to have a hit with, they
could dust off "Bleu Disque."


Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 16:07:18 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Christopher R. Coolidge" <>
Subject: Jane Siberry
Message-ID: <>

  Speaking of Jane Siberry, Andy produced her first album(Canadian only
release, forget the title), so there's already a connection.


Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 15:04:38 -0600
From: DeWitt Henderson <>
Subject: age thing

I read the last Chalkhills Digest, and I guess I missed the original
discussion or comments, but evidently 20-somethings and 30-somethings
were sniping at each other (about what?).  Who cares?  I mean, let's
welcome anyone who's intelligent and adventurous enough to recognize
XTC's music as GOOD, regardless of their age!!!  So I'm not even going
to state my age - as far as I'm concerned, anyone who listens to XTC,
Squeeze, Elvis Costello, etc. is cool.
* -------------------------------
DeWitt Henderson
CIC-13  Business Info. Systems
Los Alamos National Laboratory
(505) 665-1434
MS P223
* -------------------------------


Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:09:40 -0400
Message-ID: <>
Subject: New Colin's Hermits!

Colin's Hermits (a pseudonym everyone should recognize!) have contributed a
track to an album called "Without The Beatles". Colin's Hermits contribute
a cover of the song "I Am The Walrus". The album also features tracks by
Martin Newell, R. Stevie Moore, Louis Philippe, Bevis Frond, and
others. The CD has already been released and the vinyl version is due out
June 25th.

Now the tough part. This can only be purchased, as far as I am aware,
directly from Jar Music in Germany. They do have mail order. I suggest
everyone act quickly as they are both limited editions. Here is the info
you need:

Jar Music Mail Order
Joachim A. Reinbold
Jabel 6
29439 Luchow

The price for the CD is $25.50 postpaid, the vinyl version version is $23
postpaid. The vinyl version will include a bonus 7" single with five extra
songs on it. Joachim said sending U.S. $ cash in a registered envelope would
be okay. I am not affiliated with Jar Music in any way, I just wanted to pass
this along.


Message-Id: <>
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 17:32:00 -0500
From: Dik LeDoux <dik@ICON-INC.NET>
Subject: I'm a lazy dog

Hey chalkholios,

(I like that one - we should all stick with it <g>)
Here's my list of responses to responses from #2-120.  The names were
left out, cuz I'm a lazy dog.

>Think about it,
>do you hear anything nearly as melodic or creative as XTC on the airwaves
>often these days?

YEAH - I DO hear things as melodic and creative - just in little bits and
pieces.  I see a trend (or maybe just a constant under-buzz) lately that
indicates that some bands/artists are learning from those who went before
them and writing decent material again.  For example - consider Self.  I
bought the CD because of "Canon", and the rest of the record was so-so
(especially the unbearably Beck-like "so-low").  But I got a chance to
see/hear them at a small venue in my town and was sold - big time.  The
rest of the stuff works better when the two brothers and the rest of the
band are all playing at the same time.  And as a band - the material is
clever, quirky, eclectic - sound familiar?  They're an example of what a
producer might've done for a band.  And they're like - 12 years old, so
they may be on their way to greater things, hopefully.

>The drums on Skylarking sound like a heap of old cardboard boxes.

No... they sound like the drums on the Utopia album (the 3record one that
I can never remember the name of) - or like 50 gallon drums, or tin
buckets...  To a large extent, I like this treatment, but I figure it was
just what Todd was "up to" at the moment and not a result of what these
songs needed.  With the noted exception of "Man Who Sailed Around His
Soul".  (there's that song again)

>On a related note, IMHO Colin and Tony Levin are the world's greatest

Here, here - but Levin comes up with cooler sounds that distinguish him
as being at the top of the pile.  Ok - you can throw your tomatoes at me
for rating Colin as #2, but that's the way I see it.

Sorry for the long posting - I ramble at times.

Dik \:)


Date: Thu, 6 Jun 1996 19:18:54 -0400 (EDT)
Message-Id: <>
From: Joshua Hall-Bachner <>
Subject: Re: Fire! Fire! Heh heh!

>Ah, that gets us into the fire metaphor ... "Great Fire," "I'll Set Myself
>on Fire," "Burning with Optimism's Flame" ...

"Sacrificial Bonfire", "Miniature Sun" ("I'm all aflame now," "on ball of
fire," etc.), "Books Are Burning"...the picture on the back of Nonsvch has
Peter Pumpkinhead being set on fire...
/----------------------------Joshua Hall-Bachner----------------------------\
|    |
| "I spend too much time raiding windmills. We go side by side, laugh until |
\-------it's right." Toad The Wet Sprocket, "Windmills"---------------------/


Date: Thu, 06 Jun 1996 15:43:42 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: XTC is not alone
Message-id: <9605068341.AA834106947@FINSMTP1.FIN.GOV.BC.CA>

  Not that it helps anything (other than as a sop to the old "misery
  loves company" adage), but I just read through a recent article
  about Squeeze
  The current Squeeze experience mirrors much of what XTC is currently
  going through.  The article also offers some explanations for why
  Squeeze (and by extension, XTC) don't sell very well  -- mostly that
  they are too English, too literate, and too old.

  In spite of Blulpsis (did I miss anyone?) having success with the
  new New Wave of BritPop (see the latest issue of Musician), their
  ancestors (XTC, Squeeze, Rockpile in its various guises, Graham
  Parker, and to a lesser extent Elvis Costello) continue to struggle.

  Read it and weep.



Message-Id: <v02110109adddeecf5f84@[]>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 1996 15:54:51 +0100
From: (Stephen Varga)
Subject: dishonesty

I've just read through issue 40 of the Little Express again and in the news
section Andy was saying how appalling the deal with Virgin was and the very
dishonest things they had done to the band in the past.

Clearly it must have been incredibly frustrating not just because of this,
but also the problems with their ex-manager, Ian Reid, and the years of
legal action which led to thousands of wasted pounds.

It's quite understandable that they don't want to get their fingers burnt
yet again, so I'm keeping my fingers crossed that XTC will finally get a
deal that earns them the kind of money they truly deserve.

Does anyone out there know any more about the problems with Ian Reid which
is not mentioned in the Chalkhills and Children Biography?

And what about these alleged dishonest things Virgin had done? Any info

Stephen Varga
Schlumberger ATE


Message-ID: <>
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 96 14:18:00 -0500
From: dgershmn <>
Organization: AMS
Subject: The best song never written

 Does anyone else out there think that
"Some Lovely (My Brown Guitar)" is the
best song that Paul McCartney never
wrote in his solo career? Maybe it's
just because Andy's voice strikes me as
sounding a bit like Paul in spots, but
I think it would have been a great
McCartney song. Maybe Paul should
consider collaborating with Andy to
help revitalize his
almost worked when he collaborated with
Elvis Costello!


Message-Id: <v01510100addf7c19bfbf@[]>
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 1996 11:07:42 -0800
From: (Mitch Friedman)
Subject: Top Ten Composer Poll

So far I've received lists from 21 people and the results are starting to
become very interesting. Who knew Manilow would do so well? (Just kidding)

I'd love to hear from more of you; there are apparently some 1,100 people
out there who receive these Chalkhills digests each day. I know you all
have your favorites and if you're shy you can email privately and I promise
not to reveal your secret identity!

It would greatly "improve" the results if a lot more people
participated. What I mean by "improve" is that I am personally being turned
on to more and more new artists with each entry I receive and then becoming
curious to check out their music. I think it would be great for all of us
if this poll could help to expand all of our musical horizons while at the
same time helping the diverse and sprawling XTC fan mass to become more of
a group with a common musical taste besides the sound of Swindon. (If I had
a copy of 'Ebony and Ivory', it would've been playing throughout this last

So please be brave and send me your list! I'd love to get at least 50
entries all together before I tally the results. Oh yeah! If you included
anyone whom you feel might be obscure to most others, please add some
helpful details about who your person is so we can all enjoy them.

Thanks a lot!


Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 00:35:36 -0700
Message-Id: <>
From: Lee Moskow <>
Subject: Making Plans for Nigel

Does anyone know the interpretation of "Making Plans for Nigel?" One person
here thinks the band are psychologists comforting Nigel.  I'm confused.


Message-Id: <>
From: "Mark Strijbos" <>
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 13:07:03 +0000
Subject: Cover Art

Dear Chalkies,

While I was examining the CD booklet of "Through The Hill"
by Andy Partridge and Harold Budd, I noticed the images were
taken from "The Complete Encyclopedia Of Illustration" by JG Heck.

I own this book and have often wondered if some of the Dukes' "25 O'Clock"
sleeve graphics were eh... 'sourced' from here.
I know Andy put this sleeve together using a photo copier and some
paste but could anyone confirm he has the aforementioned book?

BTW: to my knowledge the first XTC gig took place on Decmber 8 in
1976. Wouldn't it be nice if we could all celebrate 20 years of XTC with
a new album release?

Yours in ecstasy,


<- XTC quote for today  ->
A thousand Cheshire cats grin inside of me


Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 08:32:01 -0700
Message-Id: <>
From: (Dean Martucci)
Subject: Colin's Hermits on "Without The Beatles"

Apologies to those sensitive to reading the "B" -word, but it is germaine to
the subject...

I just received Joachim Reinbold's new, wonderful "Without The Beatles"
tribute. Get one while they last, the packaging is as super as the music (on
CD or vinyl) itself....

"Colin's Hermits" do a cover of I Am The Walrus.

And they are:
Colin Midnite  vocals, tambourine
David Dreams   vocals, keyboards
Jet Pastorius  vocals, bass
Rex Rapier     vocals, guitar, radio operator
Bongo          drums
& the Proteus Orchestra

David Gregory is easily spotted, but who are the others in the band? I
wonder, I wish, I whimsy. "Rex Rapier": any super hero you know?

This compilation also has a nifty Yukio Yung cover of "FAAB".

J. Reinbold also has material by Martin Newell, Chrysanthemums, etc. Here's
the plug:
Jar Music Mail Order
Luchow - Jabel 6  Germany

Dean Martucci           San Mateo, CA  USA


Message-Id: <>
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 1996 16:51:12 +0100
From: (Erich W.)
Subject: Sorry, Mr. Yazbek

A few months back I posted about ordering The Laughing Man and being told I
could only get it from Japan. Well, the CD comes in and the store is asking
$54.00 CDN. for it! I'm sorry, David, but with that kind of money I'd
expect it delivered personally :-)  (not to mention having to 'read'
Japanese liner notes). I guess we're not only esoteric but rich.
Seriously, if anyone out there in Chalkhillia knows where I can pick up the
CD for less than the price of bus fare to NYC, please E-mail me: I don't
have anything to trade, but would be happy to arrange a  money order...

On a happier note, the store did order about 12 copies of the BBC Live CD
at a reasonable price ($18 CDN).

In re. recent musings about 'The First Time I Heard' etc (hard to believe
we were all once 'virgins' and I won't use that word again thank you), I
think it might make an interesting thread... In the back of a car? In a
smoke filled basement? My aural deflowering was pretty mundane but will
post if this goes anywhere.

As always, keep the thoughts coming, kids, to this, the most stimulating of
dialogues. And once again, all praise to John for putting up with us!

Erich in rainy Ottawa.


Date: Sun, 9 Jun 96 13:49:51 -0700
Message-Id: <>
From: Benjamin Brand <>
Subject: Trains and Music

"Train Running Low" is certainly compelling in its musical rendering of the
locomotive. For an astonishing, longer form version, check out Duke
Ellington's "Daybreak Express."

In an unrelated request, any Chalkhillians who are fluent in German...I have
a small piece of English text that I need to have translated.  If you could
help me with this, please email me privately. I would gladly provide you
with some nice xTc material in exchange for this service.  Thanks, Ben

Benjamin Brand / Other Pictures, Inc.
785 14th Street San Francisco, CA  94114  U.S.A.
(415) 861 4930


Message-Id: <v01530501ade1999f87cb@[]>
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 16:22:25 +0700
From: (James Dignan)
Subject: Bass/Bungalow/Bob Clearmountain

>With apologies to Paul, I really do believe Colin is the most innovative,
>molodic, even inspirational bass player I've ever heard. I find myself
>saying, "Now what would Colin play here" when trying to come up with bass
>lines of my own. It used to be Paul. Hmmmm, I'm must be getting

At the risk of heading off on another meaningless thread... I was once
forced to point blank name my ten all-time favourite bass players (all
varieties of the instrument). My final choices (in no set order):
Colin Moulding - XTC
Jon Entwistle - The Who
Danny Thompson - upright bass in sessions from Billy Bragg to Kate Bush,
also folk supergroup Pentangle
Tony Levin - Chapman Stick and bass in King Crimson, also sessions from
Paul Simon to the McGarrigles
Nigel Griggs - Split Enz, Schnell Fenster
Bruce Thomas - the Attractions, also sessions with everyopne from Suzanne
Vega to Billy Bragg
Paul McCartney - never heard of him
Percy Jones - sessions for many names, notably some of Brian Eno's early work
Jaco Pastorius - jazz fusionist with Weather Report etc
Bruce Foxton - The Jam

Of these, very few could be called melodic (Moulding, Griggs, Thomas and
McCartney, maybe), and of those, Colin's bass-lines are the most truly

As for the song Bungalow, it is priceless, in its own quirky way. Any of
you who know New Zealand's band the Muttonbirds might know a similar song
by them, called "A Good Address", which I secretly think may have been
influenced by Bungalow.

>Bob Clearmountain - Who has Mr. Clearmountain produced? I know that he is
>primo in the technical area and has mastered tons of albums. Maybe just
>what the band needs.

have a listen to the Church's album "The Blurred Crusade" to see what Bob
can do as a producer.



Message-Id: <v03006f06ade24985e669@[]>
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:54:53 -0400
From: arthur james virgin <>
Subject: Semisonic interview

Well, I finally finished the interview with Semisonic and have posted it on
my music page...
Semisonic's the Great Divide was produced by Paul Fox (of Oranges and
Lemons fame).  The interview has nice little mentions of Paul and of XTC.

Anyone interested in everything you ever (or never) wanted to know about
Semisonic should steer their browser to :

Thanks, hope you enjoy it.


"But you're only as good as the last
   great thing you did" - Paddy McAloon - Prefab Sprout


Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 17:57:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: Ted Harms <>
Subject: drums&wireless vs. BBC1
Message-ID: <>

I'm wondering if the BBC Radio1 live CD is worth acquiring?  A shop up here
has it for $15Cdn and I'm wondering how it ranks with Drums & Wireless
(which I think is quite good in recording quality and song selection).

I know some people here don't like reviews, so please keep it short if
you're going to post it here or feel free to email me directly.

Thanks in advance.

Ted Harms                   Library, Univ. of Waterloo        519.888.4567 x3761
"True affluence is not needing anything."  Gary Snyder


Date: Mon, 10 Jun 1996 23:26:08 -0400
Message-ID: <>
Subject: Godly Nonsuch

Hello Chalkies...

I was flipping through the channels the other day, and came
upon a religious "Rock and Roll is Satan" program.  Being
always interest in what these people come up with, I kept the
channel there for a while.  There were a few quotes from heavy
metal bands I've never heard of that referred to their love for
Satan... yadda yadda....  But then, they played a familiar song -
"Dear God" by XTC (pronounced by them - "Ecstasy", of course).
They played the latter half of the song (to catch the intense
last section of things they love to hear), in VIDEO!  Lyrics on
the screen to boot.

So cool... I got to see part of the XTC "Dear God" video.

Also, while I'm here... I just want to state my love for
_Nonsuch_.  To me, it's an entirely _beautiful_ album.
("Humble Daisy" is what got me writing this!).  "That Wave"
into "Then She Appeared" is one of the brightest colorful
moments of my sonic life.  And yes, "Holly Up On Poppy" brings
tears to my eyes (and I only have a niece... not a daughter).

Anyhoo, just wanted to vent my love for that album... and
stuff....  Here's to more beauty to come!



End of Chalkhills Digest #2-121

Go back to the previous page.