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Subject: Chalkhills Digest #13-22

         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 13, Number 22

                   Sunday, 20 May 2007


       Barbara Ann, Nanette, and Alice had it worst
                 lady bird, mother's day
             opinions are good - here's mine
                     Cue Basil Brush
                         Dear God
                       XTC in Word
                Interview with Andy at CMJ
                   monstrance ramblings
                     interview at CMJ


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no one's laughing here / which is strange my dear / as the government's a joke.


Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 09:58:08 +0200
From: don device <>
Subject: Nevermore
Message-ID: <>

Quoth the Ryan;

Ryan Anthony wrote: "Am I right in thinking that it would be somewhat
less difficult to go through life as an XTC fan named
Nigel than as a Beach Boys fan named Barbara Ann?"

Quoth the Hayden;
Imagine growing up a Beatles fan named Jude.

Then don device said;
Check out the Dear Prudence comumn in Slate online this week.
A girl writes in because she's sick of hearing a certain Bealtes song
everytime she introduces herself.
Her name?



ps: I don't write this stuff, I just report it.


Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 01:18:00 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ryan Anthony <>
Subject: Barbara Ann, Nanette, and Alice had it worst
Message-ID: <>

With all due respect to Chalksiblings Jude Hayden and
Nigel Turner, both of whom doubtless went through hell
when cute British pop foursomes released catchy tunes
with their first names in the titles, I still think no
one had it worse than Beach Boys fans named Barbara

Unless you were a teenage girl named Nanette in the

Or -- thank you, Reginald Dwight! -- Alice in the
early '70s.

Nigel, I can tell you had no intention to taunt me, in
Digest 13-21, when you made a political point
pertaining to an issue that lights this Hill up like
Guy Fawkes Day whenever it is broached. You simply
stated your opinion, which is the default position in
this fanbase, not even imagining that there is a
legitimate opposing view, or that this Chalkbro might
hold that view, or that I might actually keep my teeth
pressed into my tongue in an effort to avoid taking
the bait dangled in front of me by those who do not
tolerate dissent.

Do I ignore the bait out of self-preservation? Nah. As
some idiot American cowboy once said, "There is
nothing more exhilarating than to be shot at without

No, sorry, that wasn't some idiot American cowboy, it
was Churchill.

The real reason for restraint is that I want to see
Chalkhills continue, regardless of what the Messrs.
Partridge, Moulding, et al., do or fail to do.
Chalkhills dies if John Relph loses his motivation to
keep it alive -- and John never sounds so tired and
depressed as when he is finally compelled to break up
firefights over political issues, one in particular,
that have nothing to do with XTC.

So I'll content myself with this gentle-as-possible
rejoinder to the innocent Chalkbro Nigel. When a third
of your Green and Pleasant Land rises up and tells you
to choose Shariah law or death, and you think that's a
lousy offer because you'll never see a girl's face, or
drink good wine, or hear beautiful music again either
way, and you decide to take a stand on behalf of the
values of the West, I hope British Steel, flush with
inventory after all the melting-down it has been
doing, will fill your hand with, at the very least, a

Ryan Anthony
An independent Internet content provider

P.S.: Now reading: *Inside the Yellow Submarine: The
Making of The Beatles' Animated Classic* by Robert R.
Hieronimus. As much as I love that movie, this is more
than I wanted to know. Still, the pages pretty near
turn themselves. It's all in the mind ...


Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 05:19:30 -1000
From: Jim Smart <>
Subject: lady bird, mother's day
Message-ID: <>

Thanks Todd for another great interview with Andy. I have always
enjoyed Ladybird, but until now I had no idea it referred to what we
Yanks call a Lady Bug. So before the first question you two changed
and expanded my idea about what the song is about. Wikipedia says
"Coccinellidae is a family of beetles, known variously as ladybirds
(British English and Australian English), ladybugs (North American
English) or lady beetles (preferred by scientists). The word "lady"
in the name is thought to allude to the Virgin Mary in the Roman
Catholic faith." Who knew?

Then Andy referenced a famous rhyme, which I also had been unaware of:

The ladybird is immortalised in the still-popular children's nursery
rhyme Ladybird, Ladybird:
"Ladybird, ladybird, fly away home
Your house is on fire and your children are gone
All except one, and that's Little Anne
For she has crept under the warming pan."

Many variants exist, including one that seems ancient (recounted in
an 1851 publication):
"Dowdy-cow, dowdy-cow, ride away heame,
Thy house is burnt, and thy bairns are tean,
And if thou means to save thy bairns
Take thy wings and flee away!"

It's a beautiful piece of music that I'll listen to differently now.

I love the relaxed way Andy and Todd approach these interviews. Todd
is well versed in the material, but he lets the conversation go where
it will. And Andy is so ready to be honest and let his own memories
surprise him from time to time. It's working well, and I hope you two
do every song eventually.

I've been writing a bit of a song myself, in honor of mother's day,
which a daft Hawaiian style video:




Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 10:56:32 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jemiah Jefferson <>
Subject: opinions are good - here's mine
Message-ID: <>

I really love hip-hop music, and it is very significant to me. Just
understand that certain recent statements do not represent a monolithic
truth for every member of this list. I also really love "Baby's Got Back"
and consider it to be a favorite song, and the shared love of that song
has brought me many exceptional friendships and shared good times - and
when I meet a gentleman who knows it by heart, believe me, it piques my
interest. (Let us not get into the psychiatric implications of body type
among women, but I did find Mix's take on the issue both funny and

And I don't agree that pop music is a lesser form of artistic
achievement, and no, I don't agree that hip-hop hasn't evolved since it
began (contrast Whodini's "Five Minutes of Funk" with Aesop Rock's
"Float" or Buck 65's entire "Man Overboaard" album),
and no I don't think that every single song by every single artist
is good, no more so than I do about psychedelic pop or shoegaze or country
or baroque. It is music and some of it's good and some of it isn't - and
that which I consider to be good, I consider as some of the most
personally significant music in my life.

I understand that my opinions are, most likely, in a minority on this
mailing list, but that makes it that much more important for me to throw
my hat into the ring. Because, seriously, I am a fan, and it's important
to me to speak my piece. It might mark me as a mental midget to take
genuine emotional and cerebral enjoyment out of the sounds of someone
twiddling a crossfade knob, or Weird Al Yankovich's "White and Nerdy", or
the cartoon soundtracks of Carl Stalling. But there you have it.

Also - I've got the name thing going on in two places - growing up in the
80's being nicknamed "Jem" (and even now, actually) and growing up in the
70s with the surname "Jefferson". I feel your pain, various Nigels, Ritas,
and Judes.


Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 01:15:00 +0000
From: <>
Subject: Cue Basil Brush
Message-ID: <BAY128-W96AFDCC91DD650040DE3DD03B0@phx.gbl>

>but not your fatuous promise to commit
>sexual violence upon a musician.

Musician?  I thought we were talking about 'Sir Mixalot'.  ;)


Date: Wed, 9 May 2007 14:30:26 +0100 (BST)
From: Paul Culnane <>
Subject: Dear God
Message-ID: <>

My "bookmarks" facility is currently playing cat n' mouse with me, so
when I had to manually type in the address of this site, I
accidentally forgot the "s".  This is what came up instead (click here
and see):

Bless you

Bad grammar is something up with which I will not put. Winston Churchill

  Paul Culnane
ICE Productions Australia


Date: Tue, 15 May 2007 11:02:29 +0100 (BST)
Subject: XTC in Word
Message-ID: <>

Quite a lot of xtc related gubbins in the excellent Word magazine.

Firstly, XTC mentioned in a section on reformations of original
line-ups. Conclusion: unlikely. Then there is an interview with AP in
a feature on "mavericks" in the music business. Finally, there is a
favourable review of "Monstrance" which concludes that it is "probably
an excellent soundtrack for cooking, sex or staring into space."



Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:39:50 -0700 (PDT)
From: Andrew Boyle <>
Subject: Interview with Andy at CMJ
Message-ID: <>

Hello, All.

Still floating around. Not so much lurking but

Just got this in my CMJ newsletter:

Most fun part of the article is when they misspell the
album "Moonstrance". Short on editors, I guess.



Date: Thu, 17 May 2007 18:01:14 +0000
From: "pop boy" <>
Subject: monstrance ramblings
Message-ID: <BAY127-F203CD55C0811D47295DE13AA330@phx.gbl>

Anyone else heard Andy and Barry talking about Monstrance on the Ape
podcast? They sound like two giggling teenagers. Very embarrassing. Were
they pissed at the time? Bored? Who knows, but it makes for dire listening.


Date: Fri, 18 May 2007 07:07:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Steve <>
Subject: interview at CMJ
Message-ID: <>

this one may have already been posted...
from CMJ... interview by Dan Macintosh

- another steve


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