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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 12, Number 50

                 Sunday, 15 October 2006

Topics:

        Confirm breakup please, or stop stop! STOP
                        Brand XTC
             What does Colin do? No, really.
                         New One
      Entire Fuzzy Warbles box from Amazon for $72?
                      covering songs
     fuzzy warbles/The Nines/Andy Partridge streaming

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Babe there's something missing...

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 08:06:56 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kzincat <kzincat98@yahoo.com>
Subject: Confirm breakup please, or stop stop! STOP
Message-ID: <20061009150656.94000.qmail@web90512.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

>Andy and Colin are XTC, and Colin's not
willing to sign away his rights to the name.

Given Andy and Dave's friendship and musical
chemistry, though, I
remain hopeful that they'll work together again
someday!

>-Todd
<SNIP>

Was there some notice, discussion, conversation or
other confirmation that XTC is now just Andy, and he
might just do solo work? Has Colin said something?
If not, I get the impression that it is speculated
that the wrapping up of all the demos in the box set
is some kind of cathartic ending to XTC. Say it aint
so!

IF anything, the tintinitus (sp?) and bariatric (sp?)
that Andy is going through, plus the "sleep" accident
(wtf?) he had with his ring finger tendon all makes
for excuses not to come up with new new! NEW material,
XTC, solo, or group...

I am looking forward to his "Monstrous" CD tho. (OK, I
give up, I cant speel today).

XTC- ya later,
Dave in Det-riot

NP: Lindsey Buckingham Under the Skin
acoustic shimmery goodness

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Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2006 08:50:04 -0700
From: "Wayne Klein" <wtdk123@msn.com>
Subject: Brand XTC
Message-ID: <BAY108-F21187FB44E6B780477E91BF9160@phx.gbl>

>Well, suppose Colin either has severe writer's block (I've
>talked about this as well) or just isn't interested anymore...
>[Andy] can either go solo or release something under the name
>XTC.
>
>So, what do you think?

>As long as Colin is fine with it, I don't see a
problem with Andy continuing the XTC brand solo.  It's
already happened with the band, with Andy's dub albums
being rebranded XTC as well as some Colin solo tracks
being included in the XTC Rag and Bone Buffet comp.  I
think some of the recent download-only tracks have
been speculated to be really solo tracks.<

Interesting speculation all around. I would agree that just as a Beatles
album wasn't a Beatles album without George and Ringo doing something (no
matter the quality) the same would be true of XTC without Colin. While I
love both Apple Venus and Wasp Star without Dave's contributions they lacked
something. Unlike when Barry left the band and was replaced by Dave where
the sound changed signficantly but still had something new brought to the
table.

That said if Andy does continue on with the XTC brand without Colin that
doesn't mean I won't buy the albums I'll just be disappointed. Colin always
(even if the material wasn't up to his top notch standards) brought
something that contrasted nicely with Andy's material. One of the great
things about having "Fuzzy" 7 and 8 for me was having a couple of tracks
with Dave on it as well reminding me of how things were before the split.

On the other hand if Colin did decide not to continue if Dave was brought
back in the fold even if it wasn't in a songwriting capacity again it would
provide a nice contrast to the "brand" sound (I actually abhor referring to
band's as a "brand" but I suppose it is true).

The other option that has been discussed would be bringing in a rotating
list of musicians to provide interesting musical and vocal counterpoint (not
literally I might add) to Andy's songs.

>Mike Myers asked about XTC the brand. I was discussing this self same
>topic last night at a Babybird gig, with my mate who is 25 (I think)
>and got into XTC after I suggested he try or played them in my car on
>the way to gigs, but hey ho...
>
>We both are of the opinion that as well as the songwriting aspect,
>that Colin's bass and vocal harmonies would be seriously lacking. Put
>simply, a Warble is a Warble becuase it is 99% of the time Andy and a
>drum machine. He's good, very good, but he ain't Colin.
>

>All of the songs they recorded by other artists were licensed, properly
>credited and royalties paid.  As far as licks and riffs, other musicians
>are able to throw in a Beatles lick here and there just fine without
>getting sued.  Witness Cheap Trick's use of the "Please Please Me" melody
>in the guitar solo for "Ain't That A Shame."  As for styles and mannerisms,
>they aren't really protected and lots of bands have made money aping The
>Beatles' style (such as ELO).  None of the above are not issues.

Actually if anything ELO aped a brief period of time in the Beatles career
(1967) for the most part although chord changes and the melodic approach by
Jeff Lynne were certainly inspired by his favorite band. The one thing I
found interesting about Lynne's collaboration wtih Harrison was the merging
of ELO/Harrison sound...interestingly it sounded more like ELO to me than
much of Harrison's earlier solo work which would suggest that there is now
an "ELO" sound that others could be aping...(that's all I have to say in
defense of Lynne's work although I thought Harrison's pot shot at "Looking
On" was a bit unfair as most of the album was written by Roy Wood NOT
Lynne--he contributed two songs--and I still like "Looking On" although it
isn't my favorite prime Wood/Move album. "Shazam" would fall into that
niche).

Harrison may not care for Lynne or ELO for that matter (much as Andy doesn't
care for later Fleetwood Mac although interestingly they have the same
influence in the Beach Boys and Brian Wilson as late period Dave XTC does)
and that's fair but it all comes down to a matter of taste. It sounds as if
much of ELO's catalog may not be among Harrison's favorite material. Then
again, I love Television but I can think of many people who don't care for
the band but still note the influence they've had on other bands. Then again
I could have completely misread the tone of his email and would always give
him the benefit of the doubt for his contributions here and elsewhere (and
his intelligent perceptive posts).

>The new Robyn Hitchcock album is amazing.  Andy's co-write is
>wonderful, but the whole thing (especially "N.Y. Doll") reminds me of
>Robyn's best work from the 1980s.  Pick it up, now!
>
>The new Pernice Bros. is also excellent.  Some good ways to bide our
>time until new XTC!
>
>Ben

Thanks Ben. Good to hear that Robyn is back in fine form. I did enjoy The
Soft Boys reunion album as well although I do wish that Robyn and Kimberly
would collaborate on something as well.

>Incidentally, The Beatles were sued one time for recording music without
>permission.  In the fade out of "All You Need Is Love," the opening riff of
>"In The Mood" as recorded by The Glen Miller Orchestra can be heard a few
>times.  The song "In The Mood" is in the public domain, but glen Miller's
>arrangement is not, hence a successful lawsuit by Glen Miller's
>publisher.  This incident illustrates that if anyone had a good reason to
>sue The Beatles, they would have in a heartbeat.

I thought they also were hit up for using the recording of "Greensleeves"
for the same reason.

I like George Harrison's take on law suits over music (and Tom
Petty's)--unless they willfully stole the music (i.e., sampled it without
permission) Harrison wouldn't sue (witness a track from McCartney's "Driving
Rain" which had a similar chord progression to a song by Harrison from "All
Things Must Pass" if I'm not mistaken. George's distaste for lawsuits
regarding music was understandable after "My Sweet Lord" and I wish other
"corporations" had the same distaste but as someone else pointed out
corporations do have the worst qualities of people without the benefits.
Actually the behavior of some corporations reminds me of the behavior of
many people with drinking problems...

Anyway my two cents (which isn't worth much after inflation) for the week

Wayne.

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Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2006 14:15:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ryan Anthony <hamsterranch@yahoo.com>
Subject: What does Colin do? No, really.
Message-ID: <20061009211533.82942.qmail@web51102.mail.yahoo.com>

I hope Paul "Pledge" Rodgers puts his lurking days
behind him and continues to contribute posts as
enjoyable as his rumination on the importance of Colin
to XTC the sound, XTC the band, and XTC the brand.

Loved you in Bad Co., by the way, Paul.

Paul makes a great point when he observes that Andy
could have turned the best of the Warbles into "new
XTC albums" that we Fools on the 'Hill -- Paul
includes himself in that number of less-sophisticated
fans, and so do I -- would have snapped up and enjoyed
thoroughly if we didn't have access to sources of
information such as Chalkhills. Praiseworthily, Andy
has done no such thing.

Let me ask the Chalkhills experts: What does Colin do?
We know that Andy keeps busy, playing with Dave
Gregory, playing with Martin Newell, playing with
Harold Budd, playing with himself -- but what does
Colin do? Earlier I joked about him spending his
declining years mixing garden poisons and perfecting
the Hairy-Backed Husband's Shave-All Deluxe, but
really, now, what does he do? Does he work? Does he
have to work? Does he write? Does he play? Does he
dick around with GarageBand? Is he mastering the bass
line to *The Wall* in case he gets another call from
the Messrs. Gilmour, Wright, and Mason? What does he
do?

More trivial even than the above, but it's XTC-related
...

The last song in my iTunes library, in the
alphabetical sense, is no longer Tom Petty's "Zombie
Zoo." Andy reclaims that dubious prize with "Zonked
Right Out On Life" from F.W. 4. Did I say "reclaimed"?
Yes, before I added "Yule Dance" by Dan Fogelberg, a
misspelled cover of "You're The Wish You Are I Had"
(beginning with "Your") from the *King For A Day*
compilation stood at the end of the line.

Which song is alphabetically first? That does not have
a straightforward answer, since iTunes chooses to
alphabetize punctuation marks and numerals before
letters. Two songs whose titles begin with ellipses,
"... And Justice For All" by Metallica and "... Maybe
I'll Lend You Mine After All" by Brand X, top the
list. Next come the apostrophe and the single
quotation mark, which to iTunes are one and the same,
so "'39" by Queen is next. Then come orchestral
selections whose names begin with double quotation
marks. Then come 15 songs whose titles begin with
quotation marks, such as "(Down To) Seeds & Stems
(Again)" by Commander Cody and His L.P.A., which may
be the single most overly-punctuated song title of all
time, and "(Sonajas) Mananitas Michoacanas" by Los
Lobos. Then comes the pound sign: "#9 Dream" by John
Lennon. Then comes the dollar sign: "$1000 Wedding" by
Gram Parsons. Then come 33 songs whose titles begin
with numerals, including "25 O'Clock" and "1000
Umbrellas."

There! XTC content just in time -- everyone was
reaching for the scroll-down button.

Which all-letter song title is alphabetically first?
"A Boy Like That" (He keel yo brudda/You forget dat
boy/And find anudda) and 84 other songs whose names
begin with *A* as a stand-alone word beat out four
selections from the *Monsoon Wedding* soundtrack that
start with *Aaj* or *Aaja*.

What are the chances there will be, on *Fuzzy Warbles
Volume 9*, songs titled "... All I Want" and
"Zymurgist's Blues"?

Ryan Anthony
An independent Internet content provider and fervid
abecedarian

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Date: Tue, 10 Oct 2006 13:11:46 -0400
From: KEVIN.WOLLENWEBER@jpmorgan.com
Subject: New One
Message-ID: <OF994BC345.855050FF-ON85257203.005E5061-85257203.005E7519@jpmchase.com>

Folks:

I noted a new title out within the last week or so, but I've not seen any
talk about it in the CHALKHILLS list.

I'm talking about a Robin Hitchcock titled OLE TARANTULA.  Is this the
album with Andy Partridge guesting?

Kevin

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Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 11:20:00 -0400
From: Steve Maser <maser@umich.edu>
Subject: Entire Fuzzy Warbles box from Amazon for $72?
Message-ID: <p0624080cc152bc088843@[141.212.136.123]>

http://www.amazon.com/Fuzzy-Warbles-Collectors-Box-Set/dp/B000ICLTT6

And it's only $72 US?

and it has all *9* discs?

Product Details
	*	Audio CD (October 24, 2006)
	*	Original Release Date: October 10, 2006
	*	Number of Discs: 9
	*	Format: Box set
	*	Note on Boxed Sets: During shipping, discs in boxed
sets occasionally become dislodged without damage. Please examine and
play these discs. If you are not completely satisfied, we'll refund
or replace your purchase.
	*	Label: Ape
	*	ASIN: B000ICLTT6
	*	Amazon.com Sales Rank: #13,217 in Music (See Top
Sellers in Music)

This can't be right, can it?

- Steve

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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 06:09:56 -1000
From: Jim Smart <jimsmart1@mac.com>
Subject: covering songs
Message-ID: <0C8BB664-318E-4E05-8498-C4BB70BA8217@mac.com>

J.D. wrote:

> If you "sample" an actual Beatles recording, that is a different
> thing from re-recording something yourself.  It requires permission
> and payment.  It doesn't matter if you sell your work or not.  You
> can't give away what doesn't belong to you.

All true, all true! However, one CAN record a cover of a song without
permission, as long as one files the forms and pays the fees, which
leads me to a thinly veiled (OK, not veiled at all) chance to squeeze
news of my toothpaste tube.

My new album has a cover of Wonderboy, by the Kinks. It's an acoustic
punk potboiler with a side of waltz, legally covered with all the
forms filled and fees paid. There's also a 3 minute song called
"Norman's Revenge" which is an alternate view of the Kinks' Soap
Opera album, where the suburban dad has a day as a rock star. As you
can see, the Kinks are a strong influence, along with XTC, Wilco, and
the Decemberists.

Here are a couple of links where you can check out the new "Seven
Fathoms" album:

iTunes:
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?playListId=189513306

MySpace: http://myspace.com/jimsmartsongs
    (a good place to see the album's first video)

CD Baby: http://cdbaby.com/cd/smart2

Feel free to sample songs, download them, make them into a sound
collage with your son, etc.

Obligatory XTC content: nothing upbeat, I'm afraid. I feel a sense of
sadness settling in. All that work to negotiate new deals and build a
new studio, all those bright open chalked paths spreading out in all
directions, and the band may be grinding to a halt. No! It can't be!
Buck up! Cheer up! XTC loves to make music and has lots of ideas. Right?

Thanks and aloha,

Jim
http://familysmart.blogspot.com/

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Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 20:00:46 -0400
From: "david henwood" <henwooddavid@hotmail.com>
Subject: fuzzy warbles/The Nines/Andy Partridge streaming
Message-ID: <BAY119-F30417B80E7724AC9AB3337C10B0@phx.gbl>

Delurk to say that I am very interested in getting my hands on the new stamp
collection fuzzy warbles after seeing the complete package at a good
friend's home the other day..very impressive in packaging and very high
quality.

Also, I was alerted that the Andy Partridge/Steve Eggers (the nines)
co-write is now streaming on the Nines' myspace page...the tune is called
Receiving Me, and it has quite a Brian Wilson vibe to it.
www.myspace.com/ninespop

David

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