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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 11, Number 8

                 Monday, 14 February 2005


               Re: Gilligan's Island Discs
              XTC - The Meeting Place - 2005
Really, can't somebody else handle this one? Okay, okay, I'll be right there
                      On Preferences
                      Groundhog Day
                  Desert Island Top Ten
                        Two Things
              XTC invited on to BBC Radio 2
                         List #32
                       Lurker DIDs
                       2004 Best Of


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Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 21:31:51 EST
Subject: Re: Gilligan's Island Discs
Message-ID: <>

Here's my 10 DID's...though I'm afraid Tower Record's got that copyrighted!

1. XTC - Black Sea
2. Jam - Sound Affects
3. English Beat - Special Beat Service
4. Elvis Costello - This Year's Model
5. Squeeze - East Side Story
6. Bob Marley - Legend
7. Curtis Mayfield - Superfly
8. Sam Cooke - Man & His Music
9. Kinks - Village Green
10. Roxy Music - Avalon

Slipped a couple "Greatest Hits" in there. sorry!
(who's actually at) CD Island


Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2005 20:46:04 -0600
From: "David Lake" <>
Subject: XTC - The Meeting Place - 2005
Message-ID: <000e01c50fe3$d4543b50$c6220d18@10dbPad>

Hello fellow Chalkers,
I bring good tidings and exciting news for the (semi) new year.  As was
alluded to a few digests ago, another XTC fan gathering is in the works for
this coming September 2005.  This one entitled:

** XTC - The Meeting Place - 2005 **

The gathering will take place over 3 days, Sept 30 through Oct 2, 2005, in
none other than Swindon, England.  Many XTC related activities, musical
performances and other special features will take place to make this a
weekend to remember for years to come.  This will truly be a melding of
peoples from all around the globe joining to celebrate the band we all know
and love.

As more details emerge, we will keep you posted here and also on the current
gathering url page:

Soon, an expanded website will be available with even more information
regarding tickets, transporation, housing recommendations, news, etc.

We hope that you can join us for this weekend.  As part of the organization
committee, please feel free to email back to me with any questions or
contact us through the above url.
Stay tuned...

David Lake


Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 00:09:43 -0500
From: Duncan Watt <>
Subject: Really, can't somebody else handle this one? Okay, okay, I'll be
Message-ID: <>

right there...
>> From: Jim Smart
>> Since went down in a hail of lawsuits
>> and Napster dust, where have all the independent
>> artists gone?

oh... this is just too easy... plus, it's been a few months, it's kind
of like my responsibility... no, I'm really not bitter...


"Independent"! I needed a good laugh... thanks! Did you say 'promote'?
Yesss! That's a *two-fer*!  Triple word score!

Good luck stormin' the castle!


Duncan "you could find my stuff on iTunes, but why pay for it when you
can steal it for free?" Watt

ps for a real answer, try Music V2 ( . Chris is
a really good guy, and they've got a good deal going right now. Added
bonus: they'll let you deeplink, which is very, very cool. You can get
into iTunes, Napster, etc. if you can get The Orchard
( to pick you up for distribution, but keep
in mind that those services are paying indies less than 2
cents/download. If you're a BMI artist, they'll track your downloads
and you can pick up an extra 1 to 1.5 cents/download that way. No, I'm
not joking - that's it - about 2-3 cents per download. Welcome to the
Electronic Fucking Frontier Foundation's New World Order. EFF them,
fucking bitches. If you want to try and sell CDs off of your site, you
can get CCNOW( to handle the online credit-card
sales for 9%, and they'll do tech-support, too. This can get you off of
the ground, but remember - this little movie has a very harsh ending:
as soon as you get any sort of notoriety or recognition going, you'll
show up on Gnutella or Kazaa or whomever's the flavor of the month, and
you will NEVER SELL ANOTHER CD OFF OF YOUR SITE. Not actually true,
there are actually still some wonderful people out there who will
support you by buying your CD because they're trying to do the right
thing, and this love will feed your art and make you continue to try
and get the stuff recorded and out and renew your faith in the world
and people and art and love and that's truly worth everything. But you
can't make a living doing it unless you gig out constantly, year-round,
and you won't get out of the local clubs (or get on the radio, don't
get me started) unless you sign on with the Evil ClearChannel, who WILL
come and find you if you're good, and kill you and your family if you
don't sign with them. Sweet!


"A songwriter's songwriter." - Northeast Performer

" absolutely brilliant CD." - Boston Soundcheck

Duncan Watt/Fastestmanintheworld Music
acoustic / electric / orchestral / experimental



Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 08:26:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Todd Bernhardt <>
Subject: On Preferences
Message-ID: <>


Larry Brown recommended the Futureheads, saying:

> Has anyone heard The Futureheads?  If your favorite XTC period is Drums
> and Wires, run right now to the closest record store and pick this one up.
> The guitar chords and tone, the punctuated beats, the background vocals
> and melodies are classic XTC, only not just a pale imitation, this is done
> RIGHT.  They also do a cover of Kate Bush's Hounds Of Love.  Energy,
> passion, melody...all that good stuff!

I recently checked out their stuff, and I was left with a distinct
what's-the-point reaction. I mean, IMO it's okay to show your influences as
long as you build on them and add something new, but if I want to listen to
D&W, I'll listen to the original (in both senses of the word). Didn't hear
much "added value" in the Futureheads.

David Henwood, answering Riley's question of
> Who are XTC's favorite new (1997+) artist/bands?

said that
> I know that Partridge really likes the power pop band the Nines and has
> been writing with the lead singer.  His APE label also signed the Milk and
> Honey band so I suppose he likes them too.

Right you are, plus he's also a fan of Jason Falkner -- very impressed by
his songwriting, as well as by his ability to play all of the instruments on
his records as well as he does. Andy's also a HUGE fan of South Yorkshire's
most versatile singer/songwriter, John Shuttleworth. I think he's a bit
jealous of JS, really...

Here's an interesting Partridge tidbit that shows some musical preferences,
but strays from the topic a bit: When checking out the listening/monitoring
situation in a mastering studio, there are three songs/albums that he uses
as a reference, because he thinks they are most excellent-sounding:

1) Slave to the Rhythm, by Grace Jones
2) Love in an Elevator, by Aerosmith
3) Ingenue, by kd lang

And Danny Phipps, surely you mean Close to the Edge and Foxtrot, rather than
Tales from Topographic Oceans and Trick of the Tail?  :^)

Going Down,

Let my words, like vegetables, be tender and sweet, for tomorrow I may have to
eat them.


Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 10:32:37 EST
Subject: Groundhog Day
Message-ID: <>

The next time Independent Internet Content Provider Ryan Anthony
offers to snail you a Christmas/Hanuramakwanstice/Groundhog Day essay
on the 50th Birthday of Rock and Roll, I suggest you bloody well take
him up on the offer. If you didn't this year, YOUR LOSS, TOOTS.

That was obviously a labor of love, Ryan, beautifully written and
stunningly packaged and presented. I expect one of those every year,
preferably closer to the actual end of the year.

As I mentioned to Ryan offline, in this day of the AllMusicGuide and
instantaneous digital transmission of music in a bewildering multitude
of forms, anyone who claims to be an Everything should be regarded
with skepticism with Alice Aforethought by the Somethings and the
Nothings. Nuff Sed.

Shameless Self-Promotion Dept.: As an exercise to keep the cobwebs from
snuffing out the synaptic sparks, I've been keeping a blog at I hope you find it amusing.

Harrison "I know my mom does" Sherwood


Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 11:48:57 -0800
Subject: Desert Island Top Ten
Message-ID: <>

Never tried this before, although I've always enjoyed reading the list
of others. It's not only more difficult than I imagined, but also
subject to change at any given moment. Here goes for the present, in no
particular order...

Tales From Topographic Oceans - Yes
Selling England By The Pound - Genesis
Ommadawn - Mike Oldfield
Security - Peter Gabriel
Apollo 18 - They Might Be Giants
Big Express - XTC
Whatever And Ever, Amen - Ben Folds Five
Revolver - Beatles
In The Land of Gray and Pink - Caravan
Dark Side of the Moon - Pink Floyd


Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2005 17:22:01 -0500
From: "Tim Kendrick" <>
Subject: Two Things
Message-ID: <005101c51088$1c801580$2aadf504@Kendrick>

Two things:

A big "Thanks You!" to Patrick (The Colonel) for his
best of 2004 list.  He recommended the album "Satanic Panic In The Attic" by
I decided to give it a try, bought it and began listening.  And I thought
"This is pretty bad!".
(The first song is called " Disconnect The Dots".)  I almost gave up on it
right there, but
luckily I went on to the second song.  And listening to the second song I
"Wow!  This is great!".  As I continued through the CD I really feel for
this wonderful band.
Very Kinks-ish, but yet much more than just a 60s pastiche.

So I join Patrick in highly recommending this album.  (Just skip the first

Here's my Desert Island Selection:

1. XTC - Nonsuch
2. The Kinks - Something Else
3. Elvis Costello - Blood And Chocolate
4. Throwing Muses - Limbo
5. Bob Dylan - Blonde On Blonde
6. Pavement - Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain
7. Stump - A Fierce Pancake
8. Richard Thompson - Rumor And Sigh
9. The Loud Family - Interbabe Concern
10. Pixies - Doolittle



Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 15:44:55 +0000
From: "Ian Sutton" <>
Subject: XTC invited on to BBC Radio 2
Message-ID: <BAY21-F2022A36180D0D7C53D0646EF680@phx.gbl>

I was listening to Jonathon Ross on Radio 2 and he played I'm the Man who
Murdered Love after the midday news.  Then there followed a brief
conversation where JR said that XTC were a fantastic band and when informed
that they were still around he said "Get them on the show.  We must be the
only show who are regularly playing their music and we must be like their
pension fund.  It's about time they came in to make another deposit"

Might be worthwhile passing this information on as the Jonathon Ross show is
one of the most popular on British radio.



Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 10:59:23 -0400
From: "Kevin Brunkhorst" <>
Subject: List #32
Message-ID: <BAY24-DAV13E73D5E4ED69AD39596B2B6680@phx.gbl>

The 'desert island' concept became meaningful to me this year.  In August I
moved to Nova Scotia for a ten-month teaching job, and I couldn't take The
Collection or The Stereo.  Instead I bought a 120GB hard drive for my PC and
loaded it up with .wav files of the things I didn't want to be without.
It's hard to go through 2000 CDs and pick out the important ones.

Ten desert island discs:

John Abercrombie and Ralph Towner: Sargasso Sea

Cocteau Twins: Four-Calendar Cafe

Elvis Costello & the Attractions: Imperial Bedroom

Miles Davis: Bitches Brew

Grant Lee Buffalo: Copperopolis

Pat Metheny Group: Letter From Home

Todd Rundgren: Nearly Human

Weather Report: Heavy Weather

Wayne Shorter feat. Milton Nascimento: Native Dancer

XTC: Skylarking

Nine discs that made 2004 better:

Elvis Costello: The Delivery Man

Miles Davis: Seven Steps box set

Dogs Die In Hot Cars: Please Introduce Yourself

Brian Eno/Robert Fripp: The Equatorial Stars

Finn Brothers: Everyone Is Here

Allan Holdsworth Group: Then!

Keith Jarrett Trio: The Out-Of-Towners

Todd Rundgren: Liars

Ron Sexsmith: Retriever

And one I'd like a refund for: REM: Around the Sun

Kevin Brunkhorst
Music Department
St Francis Xavier University
Antigonish NS Canada B2G 2W5


Date: Sat, 12 Feb 2005 12:01:58 -0500
From: "Ben Woll" <>
Subject: Lurker DIDs
Message-ID: <BAY102-F2752FEE6916B78F247782ABE680@phx.gbl>

Ahhh...I confess I have a weakness for these things as well.

And I know many people turn up their noses at best ofs, but I don't, so

In no particular order:

(1) XTC - Fossil Fuel
(2) Trash Can Sinatras - I've Seen Everything
(3) Steely Dan - Pretzel Logic
(4) The Beatles - Revolver
(5) Faith No More - Angel Dust
(6) Tears For Fears - Songs From The Big Chair
(7) Belle and Sebastian - Tigermilk
(8) The Jayhawks - Hollywood Town Hall
(9) The Best of Leo Kottke
(10) The Best of Crowded House

Again, going with the music for every mood idea here.  And, damnit I'm not
ashamed of the 80s.

Would miss The Smiths a bit here, and my favorite XTC song "The World is
Full of Angry Young Men," but I guess you can't have everything, it is a
desert island after all.

Suggestion for the esteemed Mr. Relph - maybe create a quick section of
Chalkhills where people could list what they are listening to on their MP3s
and iPods, turn us onto what everyone on list is listening too so we know
where to find the good stuff.

I think if I hear A Perfect Circle or Nickelback or Bush again when
listening to the freakin radio, I'll scream...


Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:57:08 -0500
From: John Relph <>
Subject: 2004 Best Of
Message-ID: <>

Late as usual.  But here they are, my favourites of 2004.

As usual, these are not necessarily albums that were released in 2004,
but rather those that I listened to the most. Well, actually, those I
listened to the most that were also recent acquisitions. As a counter
example, may I present the following evidence to the court:

  Yann Tiersen, Le Phare
    I listen to this quite a bit, because it's just a great record.  But
    I've been listening to it quite a bit since I got it.

  Portishead, Dummy
    A classic, never really gets old.

So, on to this year's picks...

  Stereolab, Margarine Eclipse
    A friend pointed out that this album was mixed so that it was almost
    like having a complete band in each ear. Definite earphone fodder, and I
    listened to it on the bus many days this year. The sound, combined with
    the fact that the entire album is an ode to their dear departed
    bandmember (hence the title), makes for a real listening experience.

  Nasa, Remembering the Future
    I always loved New Musik, especially their album Warp. This album sounds
    almost as if Tony Mansfield &co were reincarnated as Swede
    synthpoppers. And that's a good thing.

  Interpol, Turn On the Bright Lights
    Yeah, so they sound like Joy Division (Unknown Pleasures) and The Jam
    ("Eton Rifles") among others. Echo and the Bunnymen perhaps? But still,
    they rock. Good and dark. Weird videos, too.

  Dogs Die in Hot Cars, Please Describe Yourself
    I was told that they sound just like XTC (especially Drums and
    Wires). Perhaps. But the first thing I thought of was early Poi Dog
    Pondering. I was listening to The Futureheads as well, but I decided I
    like Dogs Die In Hot Cars more because they really write lyrics. And
    they're upbeat. Sometimes happy music is good. (I was told by my wife to
    put on some "happy music" and I had the hardest time finding any in my
    collection. It's all dark, disturbed and intense.)

  Louis Philippe, My Favourite Part of You
    There's something about Louis Philippe's songs that really get
    me. They're lushly arranged, they're beautifully sung. They're
    "adult". He's often singing about relationships, and often they're
    failed. Yet he often as not sounds happy about it. I can't get
    enough. We're all doomed.

  The Bad Plus, These Are The Vistas
    Is it real jazz? I don't know. Does it matter? No. Do I like it? Yes.

  They Might Be Giants, The Spine
    One of their best albums in a long time. So good, I actually want to
    listen to it! Played it tonight, in fact.

  The Futureheads, The Futureheads
    Impressive musicality, lots of energy.  But what does it all mean,
    Mr. Natural?  The lyrical content value is low, or perhaps I just don't
    grok it.  But I'd rather listen to Dogs Die In Hot Cars.

  Fountains of Wayne, Welcome Interstate Managers
    Okay, so I finally got this record. It's good, but it's not as good as
    everybody seems to believe. It's sprawling, incoherent, and
    inconsistent. That said, it's also got some brilliant moments,
    especially the classic "All Kinds of Time".

  Peter Blegvad & Andy Partridge, Orpheus - The Lowdown
    I just love to listen to Peter Blegvad speak.  And his use of language
    is awe inspiring.  That said, this album is often overmuch for casual
    listening.  It requires a certain mood, a certain concentration.

  Franz Ferdinand, Franz Ferdinand
    There are a couple of great songs on here: "Darts of Pleasure", "Tell
    Her Tonight" and especially the album closer "40 ft". But overall I find
    the album a bit flat. It's good, but it doesn't grab me for repeated
    listens. I can't say what it is. Perhaps it's the production, as I
    really enjoy the demo version of "Darts of Pleasure". It's more angular,
    more angry. It really moves. The album version, as it all too often
    happens, is smoother, the rough edges sanded off, the energy sapped. As
    Robert Green Ingersoll might have said, "pebbles are polished and
    diamonds are dimmed"

  William Shatner, Has Been
    "You're gonna die" 'Nuff said.

  Luke Haines & The Auteurs, Das Capital: The Songwriting Genius of Luke
    Haines and The Auteurs
    I really would have liked to have been able to see these concerts. But I
    didn't. And this recording, while interesting, doesn't quite match the
    raw energy of the originals. Oh, Luke Haines sneers grandly, the strings
    scratch, the guitars grind.  But it's more like a revue, and it leaves
    you wanting the original show again.

  Daryll-Ann, Trailer Tales
    I'm always afraid to play this one when my wife is home, as the lyrics
    are a bit on the bitter end. Broken relationships and ambiguous morality
    seem to be the themes here.

  Chester Stacey, Westminster Life
    Westminster is the town in Maryland where these guys live. I saw Chester
    Stacy in between The Jennifers and Thee Bowlermen, and they blew me
    away. It was the coldest gig I've ever been to, probably below 30oF in
    the club (the heat was out for the first half). But they rocked, perhaps
    to fight off the cold.  Somewhere in between Minutemen, Meat Puppets,
    and Baltimore, the lead singer wrung power, noise and grace from his
    Telecaster. I had to pogo.

  Catorce, The World Before Your Eyes
    Intimate, oddly psychedelic little brother of The Sugarplastic, filtered
    through Syd Barrett and lo-fi production (the good kind of lo-fi). Why
    did I listen to this so much? I still don't know.

Honorable mentions:

  Christmas Remixed - Holiday Classics Re-Grooved (various artists)
    Absolutely essential Christmas music.

  Mike Watt, The Secondman's Middle Stand
    Harsh but true.

  Rusty Anderson, Undressing Underwater
    A bit overproduced, but high quality power pop.

  John Francis, Fiddling - Seventeen Tunes
    National Champion performs some of his favorites (including one he
    learned from me).

  Matthew Sweet, Kimi Ga Suki - Raifu
    Some good tunes on here, but it seems to lack something. More
    interesting than his recent Living Things, however.

  Andy Partridge, Fuzzy Warbles Vol. 5 and Fuzzy Warbles Vol. 6
    As usual, a mixed bag. Some gems. Some dross.

  Chomsky, Let's Get to Second
    Very disappointing. Rehashing some songs from their previous (Onward
    Quirky Soldiers) with some new songs, this album is another that loses
    the energy of the originals. I'm not trying to "second" guess the band,
    but why they decided to go back in time (in an effort to improve upon
    it?) is beyond me. Still, it's good overall, and I continue to listen to
    it. (Damning with faint praise.)

  The 88, Kind of Light
    Solid power pop.

  Owsley, The Hard Way
    More solid power pop, but the best song on here is the bonus track from
    "Listen to What the Man Said" - Popular Artists Pay Tribute to the Music
    of Paul McCartney, Owsley's cover of "Band on the Run".

  The Tubes, Now
    I've been waiting for this on CD since before CDs were invented. Oddly
    enough, this seems to be the least favourite Tubes album for most
    people. Don't know why. I like it.

  Art Bears, The Art Box
    Along with most Frank Zappa, Big Black, L.A. punk-pop, and Conlon
    Nancarrow, this is music my wife would rather I didn't listen
    to. Especially if she is within earshot. But The World as it is Today is
    so amazingly powerful and seriously scary, how could I live without
    it. This mastering in this reissue is audibly improved over the original
    CD releases, plus you get all sorts of bonus stuff (which I will
    probably listen to once).


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