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          Chalkhills Digest, Volume 11, Number 4

                 Friday, 21 January 2005


                    UK XTC Convention
              Look Look Explained Explained
                   Chalkhills of Ideas
                    Re: LookLook Cover
A Quick Note Re Editorial Decisions and Jon Brion, Year End List
                   XTC covers addition
                   My XTC Tribute band


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Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:52:48 -0000
From: "Belinda" <>
Subject: Thoughts
Message-ID: <009001c4fe3e$ec87b280$536b9a51@davidfoh4tm83a>

Greetings all,

A few points.

1)     Why has Andy Partridge never appeared on Never Mind The Buzzcocks?
(For our non UK friends, it's a music quiz TV show).  He would be fab
especially if up against someone like Rick Wakeman.  There was a rumour a
couple of years ago he would be on, but maybe he saw it and thought it had
either gone too banal - (with some different young famous person on with one
hit to their name and a new "Greatest Hit" album to sell each week, that
he/we have never heard of) - or that he really did not know enough about
current music to be able to contribute. (This last point doesn't hold back
most people on the show!)

2)    Given the above, isn't there the space on TV for a better more in
depth music quiz? TV Executives and commissioning editors are now in their
forties and some are even (shock horror) fifties (and to a certain extent
this is reflected in some of the programmes we're seeing - tho not
necessarily reality shows which nevertheless are beginning to decline in
numbers of new ones, only to stack up on day time cable channels for ever!)
- and so they may be keen to consider it. A Saturday tea-time sort of slot
comes to mind.  Discuss!   But remember, formats are everything, as Endemol
the makers/creators of Big Brother will tell you.

3)    The reason I don't visit the Ideas website so much is that it is
difficult to navigate around everything.  I mean, this very Chalkhills
posting hits my inbox every so often and I can just read the points /
letters etc and get on with my day, whereas the Ideas site - well you need
to log in and then work out what section you want to read and try and keep
up, and remember to go into it (which I rarely do remember!) and so on.
It's great when there's time to spend and read things, but for news I'd hope
and dare to assume that if anyone had anything important to say they'd write
here first.  But I'm wrong there because I did not know about the planned UK
meeting until I read about it on the Ideas site by chance.   So thanks Jamie
Lowe for alerting us all here to it.

Meanwhile, there is one and a half hours till my Look Look video hits it's
sell by time on ebay.  I'm grateful to all who bid!

Best wishes
Belinda x


Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 16:29:38 -0500
From: "Tim Kendrick" <>
Subject: UK XTC Convention
Message-ID: <010901c4fe6d$fbc63da0$2c01f704@Kendrick>

Hi Jamie Lowe!
Yes, I'm also going to the Swindon XTC fan gathering
at the end of September.  Will be booking my flights
next week.

Hopefully a lot of other Chalkhillians will be joining us.
It should be a great time!

The last UK mini-convention I attended I also helped
 organize, way back in May '98.  Neville Farmer
joined us with some pics and a lot of great stories!
It was a lot of fun and I hope some of the participants in
that one will also be at this upcoming one.

Jamie posted the website in the last digest, but I'll
put it here again in case anyone missed it:

I also occasionally post on the Idea website, but to be honest
there are so many threads on so many different topics that I just
don't have the time to keep up with it all.


XTC SONG OF THE DAY:   In Another Life


Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 15:02:03 -0800
From: "Pastula Aaron" <>
Subject: Look Look Explained Explained
Message-ID: <BAY24-F3825EA8CD990E06EC30ADA2800@phx.gbl>

"Speaking of Look Look vids, does anyone know the story behind the
cover? The guy buried in fish parts? Was there any art direction from
the band? Where did the title 'Look Look' come from?"

Well, I can answer the last part, at least...

I believe the year was 1992, when Andy was giving an interview on 91X in San
Diego during his promotional tour of Nonsuch.  He told the story of owning a
dictionary of "pidgin english," in which the word 'television' was
translated as "Box Belong Look Look."  He thought it was a neat title for a
video collection, but of course it was deemed too confusing by the record
company and was shortened to "Look Look."

As part of the same interview, I seem to remember him referring to the
drawings for the song titles on that album as being of a somewhat similar
origin; based on some kind of children's learning tool or something.



Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 20:52:14 -0600
From: "David Lake" <>
Subject: Chalkhills of Ideas
Message-ID: <000e01c4fe9b$0bd80930$c6220d18@10dbPad>

>From Jamie Lowe:
> Some of them are Chalkhills defectors who have found more life in
> the Idea format.  I know because I had a chance to meet a bunch at
> one of their gatherings last summer in Chicago and they had people
> come from all over the Midwest to celebrate their friendships and
> more importantly their favorite band. But for some reason many did
> not get Chalkhills and greatly preferred their way of doing things.
> Maybe some of their lurkers can explain?  David Lake or Omnibus?

As for this ponderance, I can't speak for all, but here are my thoughts.  I
don't see one group better than another.  I started with Chalkhills, and
continue with it, because it is the best site for XTC info bar none.  I
don't think anyone can dispute that.  The Idea forum has an advantage of
nearly instant feedback and that attracts, breeds and fosters additional
fans who warm to the kind of companionship that can bring.

The Idea forum, from what I understand, is much more open than most forums
in that there is a freedom, nearly unmoderated, that each of the members use
with a certain level of responsibility.  Kind of like an adult cocktail
function with an occasional dirty joke.  Much of the activity there doesn't
even revolve around XTC.  It's more of a place to hang out and catch up on
things.  I enjoy my time spent there equally with what I get from the
Chalkhills digests and the wealth of info in the site itself.  I am not a
huge poster in either site, but have come to meet some great people from

I'm sure that there are many that prefer one sites advantages over the
other, but in my eyes, the XTC community would be lessened without one or
the other.  XTC is the hub.  Where the spokes go from there, who knows?

Dave Lake
forumname:  Blushift
digestname:  Dave


Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:16:04 -0800 (PST)
From: Steve <>
Subject: Re: LookLook Cover
Message-ID: <>

Ian D.wrote:

> Speaking of Look Look vids, does anyone know the
> story behind the
> cover? The guy buried in fish parts? Was there any
> art direction from
> the band? Where did the title 'Look Look' come from?

I personally do not know the story, but would like to
take this opportunity to guess...

Cold fish... looks like a special someone. (not a guy
to me)
It isn't even Winter!

Another Steve


Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 08:07:29 +0000
From: "Simon Knight" <>
Subject: A Quick Note Re Editorial Decisions and Jon Brion, Year End List
Message-ID: <BAY13-F807A8F3F0555881F1BD33B8810@phx.gbl>

Hey Everyone,

Thanks to the people who offered suggestions regarding the editoral
decisions question i asked back in early December.  I've been recording
1400kms from my home (the studio was in Brisbane) for the last 7 weeks or so
too involved in the process of creating an album to have had time to check
my email or chalkhills, so sorry to those waiting for a reply, I'll work
through the answers in the next few days.

And take it from me... the recording and music business experience has made
me bitter after just ONE record.  Try to explain to a producer why you think
'drum loops are the 80's reverb of the 2000's', or that you don't want pitch
correction because you actually like the way Lou Reed sounds and don't care
if his notes are technically off, and that sometimes accidents, even though
they're 'accidents' produce results that are better than what you originally
wanted.  Everything's a bloody compromise.  (At least it took Andy 6 albums
to write "Funk Pop A Roll" - I'm ready to write "Banality Killed The Video

Just reading through the digests and wanted to point out this statement Ben
Gott made:

>Aaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!  I'm psyched!  (The XTC connection, for those who
>are wondering, is that a Jon Brion-produced XTC album would be SOLID

Actually there's a bigger connection than that... I remember reading an
interview with John Brion many years ago where he said his love for unusual
antiquated synthesizer instruments started when he was trying to get away
from the 80's keyboard sound and was reading the credits to Skylarking and
wondered what on earth a Chamberlain was, so hunted one down and the rest is

And yeah, i'd love him to produce XTC too but the choice is up to the guys I
suppose.  Hell, I was hoping for a Michael Nyman collaboration for Apple

Quick picks of last year: -

Finn Brothers - Everyone Is Here
Mangetic Fields - I
Forbidden Planet - Taniwha
Rufus Wainwright - Want Two
Hidden Cameras - Missiasauga Goddam
Bigger Lovers - The Affair Never Happened (And Here Are 11 Songs About It)
Mull Historical Society - This Is Hope
Elliott Smith - From A Basement On A Hill
Ken Stringfellow - Soft Commands
Divine Comedy - Absent Friends
The Honeydogs - 10,000 Years
Ed Harcourt - Strangers
The Lucksmiths - Naturaliste
Splitsville - Incorporated

Overrated:  the Arcade Fire, Wilco

The 'I Know I Should Love This But... Meh' Award:  Brian Wilson's Smile

I Know You Critics Are Desperately Looking For The Next Big Thing But You've
Got To Be Shitting Me Award:  Fiery Furnaces

Still the good music far outweighs the bad.


Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 22:12:17 +0000
Subject: XTC covers addition
Message-ID: <>


The Chalkhills FAQ mentions that the Trash Can Sinatras covered
"Senses Working Overtime" and "Love On a Farmboy's Wages" on a
limited-edition concert single.  I thought I'd mention that these
tracks are also available on their compilation CD "On a B Road", which
is available at their website (  So
those XTC covers completists can grab it if they want.

The covers are from live performances so the sound quality is less
than pristine.


-Bill Sherman


Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 17:25:25 -0600
From: "Terry Eason" <>
Subject: My XTC Tribute band
Message-ID: <>

I'm doing a XTC/Dukes cover band and we're playing at First Avenue
( )in Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA on
Wednesday January 26th (That's next week!).

We're being billed as "The Dukes of XTC" at the moment, but I think
the name will change to "Generals and Majors" at some point (I was too
late to change it for the club's calendar listing). My Website is at:




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