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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 11, Number 33

                   Monday, 18 July 2005


                    shocked & stunned
         Re: Quizzing on My Station Selection....
                    Re: Great Drummers
                      Richard Lloyd
                        Noo moozik
        Chalkhills: a nearly Tourette's-free zone
                     Ringo and Sweet
 Return of the Son of The Bride of King for a al


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Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:22:45 -0400
From: Chris & Melany <>
Subject: shocked & stunned
Message-ID: <>

Re:From: "Dave Smith" <>
Subject: Great drummers in great bands?

Once again, however, few could argue that the songs on, say, "Dark Side of
The Moon" or "Wish You Were Here" would sound as good without Nick's steady,
metronomic 4/4. I have always thought Mason's strength is that steadiness.
Even his back and forth switch between 5/4 and 4/4 in "Money" is the very
model of a "backbone" on which the real virtuosity of the other Floyders can
be showcased.

***hmm..i thought 'money' was in 7/4?

slingerland & zildjians here..


Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:55:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jason Pytka <>
Subject: Re: Quizzing on My Station Selection....
Message-ID: <>

I previously wrote:

> I'm chiming in now because it looks like I'm going to
> be given the opportunity to co-host a radio show on
> Wednesday, June 20 from 2p to 4p Eastern Daylight
> Time (that's 11a to 1p PT and 7p to 9p GMT, if I'm not
> mistaken).

  Correction:  I meant to say JULY 20...sorry for the
typo.  Me = doofus.  Good thing I don't post here more
often...better to be silent and thought of as a fool
than to open one's mouth and remove all doubt. :)



Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:08:28 EDT
Subject: Re: Great Drummers
Message-ID: <>

I think a drummer has to 'suit' a band. Keith Moon would have been a
little out of place in the Beautiful South , for example. ( Love to
have seen it , though ! )

My best example of a drummer totally suiting a band has to be Stewart
Copeland in the Police.  Never heard any other drummer make so much
use of cymbals - they were almost a seperate instrument in the
band. !!  Pity we don't hear more of S.C. these days.


Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:03:48 -0400
From: Joe Hartley <>
Subject: Richard Lloyd
Message-ID: <>

It's two! two! two posts in one!

Dave Smith wrote:
> But try this - take some Beatles songs and, in your head, replace
> his parts with your own part, but not the same as his. It's starting
> to sound pretty duff already, isn't it?

Years ago, I had a friend in radio who cut out Ringo's solos in "The
End" on Abbey Road and spliced in Keith Moon's bits from "Won't Get
Fooled Again".  It really caught me off guard the first time I heard
it, because Moon's parts fit so well, but were just so wrong for the

I think that if they'd had a stronger drummer, it would have detracted
somewhat from the songwriting, but maybe J&P just liked having one less
person that was going to argue with them over things.

Matt Kulak wrote:
> So if anyone has more intimate knowledge of Lloyd or Quine, and would
> like to suggest the best releases to look for, I'm always open
> for suggestions!

Besides the 3 Television albums (which are pure genius, especially
Marquee Moon and Television, the 1st and 3rd, respectively), find a
copy of Lloyd's "The Cover Doesn't Matter" which is a real fave of
mine, and Bibi Farber's "Firepop" which Lloyd produced and played
lots of guitar on.  and are excellent
starting points.

I've always thought that Richard is a better guitar player than Tom
Verlaine (the guitar player people always associate with Television),
after I realized that all my favorite solos seem to have been done
by Richard.  Tom's no slouch, though - Television is one of my
5 favorite bands, right up there with XTC.


       Joe Hartley - UNIX/network Consultant -
Without deviation from the norm, "progress" is not possible. - FZappa


Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 04:54:47 +0100 (BST)
From: Paul Culnane <>
Subject: Noo moozik
Message-ID: <>

Hey folx

Has anyone heard of some character rejoicing in the name Surfjan
Stevens?  I just heard a coupla tracks from his new album, and this
music is heavenly.  Think, a kinda mixture of High Llamas and
Polyphonic Spree, a dash of Super Furry Animals.  But not as eccentric
or as indiosynchratic as those, this is more melody-based and really
quite beautiful.

Interesting concept: this guy seeks to make an album about each one of
the United States (that's a lotta albums if you think about it).  So
far he's done Michigan, and this new one is called "Come On Feel The

Check it out!



Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:37:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ryan Anthony <>
Subject: Chalkhills: a nearly Tourette's-free zone
Message-ID: <>

Digest 11-29 contains references to several persons
who hold, or held, strong political beliefs, but only
one of them gets flamed for the crime of divergence
from views held by the writer.

A Chalksibling (name deleted because this isn't about
the writer, and incidental typo corrected) writes:
"XTC sighting: 'I'd Like That,' on Laura 'just bomb
'em all' Ingraham's incredibly far-right-wing radio
show. Beyond ironic. Wish she knew. Guessing she never

Had this sighting been announced this way -- "XTC
sighting: 'I'd Like That,' on Laura Ingraham's radio
show." -- the number of smears and Tourette's syndrome
outbreaks on the Hill could have been reduced to a
genial, collegial, zero.

Ryan Anthony
An independent Internet content provider


Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 08:46:59 +1000
From: "Simon Knight" <>
Subject: Ringo and Sweet
Message-ID: <BAY18-F15CB033F98D4850827BFDED0D30@phx.gbl>

Re: Ringo (from Dave Smith)

>But try this - take some Beatles songs and, in your head, replace his parts
>with your own part, but not the same as his. It's starting to sound pretty
>duff already, isn't it?

Thanks to all the sound manipulation technology available for computers
nowadays, it's quite easy to do convert a song to a wave file and then do
something as simple as remove the drums and attempt to play your own drums
over the top.  I just tried it with 'Taxman' and 'Rain'... I'm still
laughing hard at the results.  Ringo might be considered technically limited
but his playing supports the song rather than dominates it:  He wants to get
the song across, not try to impress everyone by showing off.  Listen to the
subtle percussion variations usually found in the 2nd verses of the early
Beatles songs.  Pure class.

An example of technical displays of drum skill almost ruining a song?  Check
out 'Dreaming' (Blondie) sometime.  The song never gets up to speed because
the over-the-top drums fills trip the song up every bar.  The imagery it
conveys is Deborah Harry trying to drink her tea and have a conversation
while the waiter continually bumps his tray into the back of her head.
(Great Bridge though).

>From Matt Kulak:

>On one such recent listen, I
>decided to re-acquaint myself with Matthew Sweet's
>"Altered Beast", and then immediately following, his
>"Girlfriend" release.

If you don't have "100% Fun", track it down.  I consider his early 90's
albums with Lloyd and Quine a triptych - thematic and stylistic links cross
over between them and 'Fun' is a concise summing up of both the strengths
and lessons learned from the previous two albums.

A Songwriter's Journal


Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:32:42 -0400
From: "King Jeffe'" <>
Subject: Return of the Son of The Bride of King for a al
Message-ID: <000001c58af5$8b42ab30$0300a8c0@stymie>

Hello Oh Hillians De Chalk,

A rare emergence from lurk mode to interject some much needed XTC topic
material here... or at least a little horn tooting thinly disguised as such.
At any rate, a recent revisiting by myself of the "King for a Day" tribute
MP3 CD has prompted me to post on my band's website an "a capella" version
of the "Then She Appeared" track we contributed to that marvelous
compilation. Not normally inclined towards patting myself on the back, in
retrospect what I (we) did for that project was probably the best work I've
ever done or will likely have the time do again any time in the near or
distant future. There were some much appreciated kind words forthcoming from
quite a few of you back when that all came out, so I thought some of you
might find it of interest. For the rest, please forgive my self indulgence.

Our tracks as they appear on the tribute are also posted there for those of
you who never purchased it (shame on you. RPA says there's still time I

And now, some completely altruistic XTC fodder to contribute. I came across
this by accident, I don't know if any of you've seen it before. Poke around
the rest of the site too. there's some pretty funny stuff.

Be well all.

Jeffrey Fariello


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