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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 11, Number 31

                  Saturday, 9 July 2005

Topics:

               Musicians: technique vs feel
                        RE: Ringo
                      London attacks
                       US Sequence
                 Ringo/Sean Altman/P. Hux
                    Ringo in the Head
                         Drummers
        Come and play in our Brian Wilson sandpit
                        Um sodd it
                      Andy Partridge

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Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 16:48:18 +0100
From: "Dewi Thompson" <dewijunk@btinternet.com>
Subject: Musicians: technique vs feel
Message-ID: <007a01c5830b$4e1057e0$498110ac@lorien.co.uk>

Wayne Klein wrote

"Anyhow, my two cents for what its worth--I'd rather listen something played
less than perfect with soul and inspiration than something played flawlessly
without any sense that it was actually played by a human being."

Blimey, you're not kidding.

I'll take Townshend over Steve Vai anyday.

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Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 13:50:07 -0400
From: "jdmack01@verizon.net" <jdmack01@verizon.net>
Subject: RE: Ringo
Message-ID: <380-2200574717507284@M2W085.mail2web.com>

Harrsion wrote:

>>Ringo had more nipples than anyone on this distribution list. Go on --
prove me wrong.>>

Well, first you have to define "had".

J. D.

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Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 19:41:12 +0000
From: blushift@comcast.net
Subject: London attacks
Message-ID: <070720051941.29169.42CD855700095EE3000071F122058891169B0007089C9A040D@comcast.net>

Just a note to all of our friends in London and any who may have
family or friends there.  My heart goes out to all of you and hope you
have made it through this tragedy safely.

David

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Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 20:04:25 -0700
From: "Craig Vreeken" <vreeken@citlink.net>
Subject: US Sequence
Message-ID: <000001c58369$c32da380$0500a8c0@CRAIG2>

Drums and Wires was my first XTC album.  I bought it on vinyl when it
came out in '79, and I bought the CD version soon after it was issued on
CD.  Didn't like the extra tracks in the middle, not because they were
bad songs, but they just didn't seem part of the album that I had grown
to love.  I later bought the CD reissue (the one with the very cool
mini-LP sleeve).  Love the packaging but hate the sequencing.  As an
American, I'm just used to the LP sequence I "grew up" with.  I want to
resequence the CD as I remember the LP by burning another copy, with
"Life Begins At The Hop" first and "Complicated Game" last.  Without
"Day In Day Out" and "Limelight."  Alas, my vinyl copy is long gone and
I don't remember the exact sequence.  Can any listers help me?

(I bought the import version of Nick Lowe's "Pure Pop for Now People",
as it's known in the US (Jesus of Cool in the UK), and did the same
thing to that.  What a relief!  I don't know what it is, but something
about the sequence of tracks to albums I love just gets imprinted on my
soul, even if it is not the "correct" UK version.)

Thanks in advance for your help!

Craig Vreeken
http://www.citlink.net/~javalee/

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Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 20:08:17 -0700
From: Phil Corless <phil@pkmeco.com>
Subject: Ringo/Sean Altman/P. Hux
Message-ID: <6.0.1.1.2.20050707200024.01ce8758@pop.mindspring.com>

I have to second Michael Versaci's recommendation of the new P. Hux ELO
covers CD.  It's what a collection of cover songs should be:  reinventions
of the original, not just copies.  If I want to hear a song that sounds
like the original, I'll just listen to... the original.  Duh.  I hated The
Rembrandts' "Making Plans For Nigel" for just this reason.

Speaking of Ringo, he was on The Tonight Show the other night, plodding
through another pleasant but forgettable song from his new CD, "Choose
Love".... Mark Hudson was on stage with him, having more fun than
Ringo.  Glowering in the back was Mark Hart (Crowded House) on
keyboards.  What's his problem?  He's playing with a Beatle?!

I haven't read anything on here about Sean Altman's new covers CD, "Losing
Streak"... It's a collection of live recordings from The Loser's Lounge
series of tribute concerts in New York.  Queen, Elvis Costello, George
Harrison, The Zombies... Sean is brilliant on all of them.

Go get it here:
http://www.seanaltman.com/losingstreak.shtml

- Phil

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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 04:50:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Michael Versaci <michael_versaci@yahoo.com>
Subject: Ringo in the Head
Message-ID: <20050708115029.94168.qmail@web30908.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Folxtc,

First of all, my condolences go out to all of you who have been
terroized by the extremists.

I could say a lot about how I feel my country has mishandled the "war
on terror," and I could rail against the absurd religious beliefs that
push people to do such acts of horror.  And no good should come of it.
In the yearly aftermath of September 11th, I said and thought some
awful things that were born of my fear, anger and sadness.  I am
trying not to do that this time, because it is those feelings that
lead to more horrendous acts of violence.

For clarification, I am not saying that we should roll over and let
these sorts of acts go unpunished.  I'm only saying to be careful
about blaming and labeling entire groups of people.

My heart goes out to all the people who have been hurt by this, and I
hope that someday soon we can find a solution to this nonsense.

****
>Ed Miller<

Welcome back Ed.

>John has been quoted as responding to a question on whether Ringo was
the best drummer in the world by saying that he wasn't even the best
drummer in the Beatles<

He was really a pain sometimes, you know?  He could have just said,
"He was alright" or somehting like that.  When Brian Epstien announced
that he was writing an autobiograpy but didn't have name for it, John
was quoted as saying, "How about 'Queer Jew?'"

Some of you told me off-list and others on-list that indeed
"Revolution in the Head" was availabe in the US and will be re-issued
at the end of this month.  I look forward to reading it.

>Anyhow, my two cents for what its worth--I'd rather listen something
played less than perfect with soul and inspiration than something played
flawlessly without any sense that it was actually played by a human being.<

Agreed, but fortunately those aren't our only two choices.  There are
indeed some Beatle records that are (to my ears) played flawlessly.
There are lots of XTC records pre and post TC that boast soul,
inpsiration and tecnique.  For, me, Steely Dan does that as well as
anybody but many other people have labled their music as "souless" and
"sterile."

>From The Beatles Recording Sessions by Mark Lewisohn: Ringo has a
tremendous feel for a song, and he always helped us hit the right tempo
first time. He was rock solid, and this made the recording of all the
Beatles' songs so much easier.- George Martin. Lewisohn adds: It is true
that only on a handful of occasions during all of the several hundred
session tapes and thousands of recording hours can Ringo be heard to
have made a mistake or wavered in his beat. His work was remarkably
consistent and excellent from 1962 right through to 1970.<

Yeah, well thankfuly everyone isn't as brutally honest as Lennon.

Michael Versaci

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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 14:40:27 +0100 (BST)
From: STEPHEN JACKSON <planet_skaro@btinternet.com>
Subject: Drummers
Message-ID: <20050708134027.18570.qmail@web86601.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Whilst I absolutely love Terry Chambers' playing (so much so I was
obsessed with him (and John Doyle of Magazine) in the Eighties) and
agree that he does have a distinctive style of playing. But as a
drummer of 21 years, I would disagree with Dave Bancroft's comments re
"Making Plans for Nigel"- Yes, it's a unique piece of playing- and it
must be one of the most recognisable drum motifs of all time- but with
regard to pedal control...."Making Plans for Nigel" is an absolute
piece of piss to play. What was is more impressive was coming up with
the pattern in the first place. And if we are to believe what we read
AP had some thing to do with that.

Steve

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Date: Fri, 8 Jul 2005 20:21:51 +0100 (BST)
From: Paul Culnane <paulculnane@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: Come and play in our Brian Wilson sandpit
Message-ID: <20050708192151.66788.qmail@web86903.mail.ukl.yahoo.com>

Well, the the more I hear Ben's stuff, I feel like little David (phhht
- that's a feeble fart in the distance) compared to be in the company
of Goliath, like (WOW!) - that's Benjy.

Check the way Benjamin Gott rocks on our forthcoming LP!  XTC samples
and Paully ratbaggerry galore.  In glorious digital stereo.  Comin' to
an outlet near you soon. Downloads and stuff.  But special friends
might just get one of those old-so-very-last-century "CDs" for being
nice.  You have been warned.  Watch this space.

It's called "playPEN" and it's our first, but not the last....

Check: www.playpenmusic.com

WE LOVE YOU!
Ben and Paul

(have a listen)  ...thanks for the airspace

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Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 10:15:10 +0100
From: "Belinda" <b.blanchard@btinternet.com>
Subject: Um sodd it
Message-ID: <005601c58466$b53dbd20$78df9951@davidfoh4tm83a>

Hi all.

Steve Somerset wrote:

"Hi there,
As subscribers to my Shadow Kabinet Mailing List know The Kab have a big fan
in the shape of Alan Haber who hosts a great show on WEBR in Fairfax
Virginia called Pure Pop.  He has played tracks off HARK! and I also
recorded a jingle for the show.
A couple of months  ago I was talking to Alan and he asked if he could get
Andy on the show. I talked to Andy and put both parties in touch. The result
has exceeded everyone's expectations and on Saturday 9th July Alan hosts a
two hour XTC Pure Pop Special with an exclusive interview Andy Partridge and
tracks from XTC and the Fuzzy Warbles albums. The show airs from 12-2pm. You
won't want to miss this! To listen: go to http://www.fcac.org/webr/ and
click on the "Listen Now" box. Steve Somerset"

So I actually went out bought a diary then wrote the date and time in my
diary to listen. Sat 9th at 12 till 2
Then realised - VIRGINIA ain't UK.  So kinda missed the time.  Threw diary
in recycling bin.  Went for a bike ride.

Bugg-er innit.

Belinda x

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Date: Sat, 9 Jul 2005 08:51:29 -0500
From: "James Lowe" <jamielowe@msn.com>
Subject: Andy Partridge
Message-ID: <BAY104-DAV9946382ECB9094394BD88BEDA0@phx.gbl>

Hey XTC fans,

Here's a little something you might want to tune into today.  Alan Haber is
a first class DJ and Pop music aficionado.

  Hello, all.

  I'm thrilled to announce that my exhaustive, two-hour interview with
  XTC's Andy Partridge will air this coming Saturday, July 9, from
  12-2 pm EST on my Pure Pop radio show. This special program covers
  many key touchpoints of Andy's career; it's a fascinating chat,
  interspersed with tracks from XTC and Andy's Fuzzy Warbles series,
  and you might even learn about the future of Swindon's finest...

  Hope to see you this coming Saturday, July 9, from 12-2 pm EST. To
  listen, go to http://www.fcac.org/webr/<about:blank> and click on
  the Listen link.  The interview will be posted on my buhdge site
  sometime down the road, but not in the same form, so don't miss this
  broadcast!

  Enjoy!

  Alan
  http://www.buhdge.com<about:blank>

Best Regards,

Jamie Lowe
purveyor of the worlds best XTC bumper stickers
http://www.billsherlock.org/xtc/<http://www.billsherlock.org/xtc/>

If you can tell the difference between good advice and bad advice, you don't
need advice. - Anonymous

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