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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 11, Number 17

                  Tuesday, 19 April 2005


       Info on XTC at Hollywood Palladium in 1981?
                 Yet another XTC sighting
                    XTC items on Ebay
                     Little By Little
                 Dogs Die Concert Moment


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Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 07:58:07 -0700
From: John Callender <>
Subject: Info on XTC at Hollywood Palladium in 1981?
Message-ID: <>

Greetings. I'm trying to figure out if my memory is playing tricks on
me, and I think there's an outside chance someone on this list will be
able to help.

After seeing U2 perform in Los Angeles at the Staples Center last week,
I found myself thinking back to the time I first saw them. In my
memory, that happened at the Hollywood Palladium in the spring of 1981,
during my senior year in high school, when the band was touring in
support of their 'Boy' album. I believe (or at least, I _think_ I
believe) that I saw them perform there on a double bill, with U2 as the
opening act for XTC.

I'm _certain_ I saw XTC at the Palladium around that time. I'm pretty
sure the concert was part of the tour supporting 'Drums and Wires'
(still my favorite XTC album). I went there with several friends, and I
remember how, at the end of the show, the management of the Palladium
(I assume) sprayed clouds of some kinds of noxious smoke from the
balcony at the rear of the hall in an effort to force us rowdy fans,
who kept clamoring for more encores, to disperse.

I left after the smoke was sprayed, but later, meeting up with my
friend Scott Pearson, he told me, "hey, we didn't leave. The smoke
didn't reach up by the stage, and a group of us stayed up there and
they did another encore. We were all doing the 'helicopter' dance; it
was great, man!" In hindsight that part might be a myth; Scott wasn't
above crafting a tall tale. But I believed him at the time.

Anyway, in checking the list of early U2 gigs at, I found a mention of a series of shows that U2
did in southern California around that time, but nothing at the
Hollywood Palladium. records that U2 _did_ play at the
Palladium on November 28, 1981, in support of their 'October' album,
but I really thought I'd seen them on the 'Boy' tour.

The webmaster of wrote to me as follows when I asked
about this:

> Anything is possible, esp. when we're talking about 20+ years ago, so
> we can't dismiss this off-hand. However....
> There are three recognized authorities for U2's concert history:
>, a book called U2 LIVE, and a book called U2- THE COMPLETE
> SONGS. The only Hollywood Palladium date listed in all three is
> 11-28-81. Beyond that, it's never been mentioned in any press article
> or interview over all these years that U2 once opened for XTC.
> lists all concerts U2 has played, whether they were
> headlining or not, so it's not a case of ignoring such a show.
> I'm inclined to say the show never happened, but if your research
> turns up some kind of evidence that it did, and we don't have it
> listed, please do share with us what you find so we can make sure the
> archives are as accurate as possible.

Anyway, I suppose it's possible that I actually saw U2 at the later
Palladium appearance, and mixed the two shows together in my memory.
But I'd be very curious if anyone on this list recalls seeing XTC
perform at the Palladium in early 1981, and if so, if they remember
anything about who their opening act was (if any).

Thanks in advance for any help you can provide.

John Callender


Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 09:44:38 +0200
Subject: Yet another XTC sighting
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Bonjour, people of the collines de la craie,

XTC is all over the place at the moment!  I wrote recently about the article
in "Time"; yesterday at the airport, I picked up (but did not buy) a copy of
"Q", and in the free CD -- themed "new wave and post-punk" or something like
that -- lookee there, it was XTC!  "Complicated Game" was the song, which
surprised me a little because I didn't think it was well known outside of
hard-core fan circles and friends of Star Park.  The comment in the mag was
something along the lines of 'This is what XTC sounded like before Andy
Partridge became a psychedelic-pop guru and hermit'.

Do they get royalties for these "free" CDs in major music mags?

Anyway, it seems to be time of the season for XTC.  If they had been
smart/lucky, they could have ridden this wave with a new album and sold more
copies.  But c'est la vie, I guess.

Au revoir,



Date: Fri, 15 Apr 2005 19:26:48 -0400
From: "J. D. Mack" <>
Subject: XTC items on Ebay
Message-ID: <>

Sorry for the commercial intrusion, but this may interest some of you.  I
am selling off a bunch of CD's on Ebay, including some XTC promos, as well
as the Hello Recording Club set that includes a CD by Andy
Partridge.  Here's the link:

Now I only hope a digest comes out before the auction is over!

J. D.


Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2005 14:51:02 -0700
From: "\"Michael Ong\"" <>
Subject: trainspotting
Message-ID: <>

Happened to see an XTC reference in the Spirit Magazine for Southwest
Airlines - unfortunately, I think they referred to XTC as a "Scottish


Date: Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:38:58 -0400
Subject: Little By Little
Message-ID: <>


It seems as if the next few months might be the flood of great music that I
had been hoping for!

Years and years ago, I recall reading, within the liner notes to a vinyl
copy of Judy Collins' then recent album, LIVING, a short but sweet
sentence, "Ry Cooder is a joy!"  Well, I'm a true believer, now, judging
from what I'd heard of his forthcoming album, CHAVEZ REVINE, a kind of
concept album around the memories of a Mexican-American community displaced
when the building of Dodgers Stadium drove them elsewhere.  The guy is
doing his finest work in recent years, and I just had to mention this here
in case any of you swing to that beat.  This is going to be an incredible
album!!  It ain't XTC-related, but there is still good music to be had.

Meanwhile, what does anyone hear of Vols. 7 and 8 of FUZZY WARBLES?  Andy
Partridge was o a roll with Vol. 6, and I hope the remaining 5 or six
volumes give us some incredible highlights.  As for new XTC, well, I think
I've given up on that.  I mean, we're practically now in a generation that
nearly has forgotten the Beatles and all the music that Andy had originally
given a kind of rebirth to with the Dukes of Stratosphere guise, but again,
I hope they continue to surprise me.



Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2005 14:00:34 -0600
From: "Steven Paul" <>
Subject: Dogs Die Concert Moment
Message-ID: <>

Hey troop, I just wanted to send a shout out to those who have recommended
Dogs Die in Hot Cars.  I picked up the CD based on several recommendations
within the Chalk halls.  I really liked the music and made a copy for my
daughter (age 15).  Together we analyzed the xtc-ness of the music, but also
pointed out the other sounds like Talking Heads, Oingo Boingo, Grateful
Dead, if you've heard the CD you know what I mean.  If you haven't - I
suggest you pick it up.  Definite "ear candy".

Last week, while playing on the internet during work, I looked for Dogs
Die's web page and read up a little on the band.  Then I checked the tour
dates to see if they were thinking of skipping through Salt Lake City.
Baam!  What do I see, but they are scheduled to play the next night!  First,
I get permission from my wife to take my daughter to a concert (it would be
her first) and then I spill the beans to my daughter and she is ecstatic at
the thought of seeing this newly discovered favorite band.  I call for
tickets and find out all the advanced tickets are sold out.  So I go over to
the club on the day of the show, as it's on my way home, and try to buy
tickets, but learn that the show is 21 and older!  My daughter will be
crushed.  But lo, what do I see, but my cousin Rolo (not his full name, but
everyone calls him that) and I go talk to him.  He is the sound tech for the
club and was talking to the owner.  Rolo vouched for my daughter and the
owner said sure, I could get her in.

I hope this isn't too long.

We get to the club at 8:00, just before the opening band takes the stage.
My cousin gets us in no problem and we wander around looking for a place to
sit.  There is all of 15 people in the club.

We learn that Dogs Die will go on last of three bands.  So we sit through
"Whatever" (not their real name) and then listen to Phoenix.  A French funk
band.  It turns out all the advance sale tickets were for Phoenix.  About 50
people were there to listen, dance and sing along.  If you've heard of
Phoenix and like them -- good on ya.  If not, you haven't missed much.  My
daughter described them as Maroon 5 with a bad french accent.

Then came Dogs Die in Hot Cars.  Between bands we saw the keyboard girl,
Ruth, and talked to her a bit about the band and touring.  She also signed
my CD.  The music was great.  The band sounded as good as the CD, but live
of course.  They played for only about 45 minutes, but that is about all of
their music!  By the time they finished about half of the crowd had left.

After they finished, we talked with singer/songwriter, Craig.  He mentioned
that he is a fan of XTC but that he wouldn't want to meet Andy personally,
as he would be far too intimidating!  Craig said XTC's music has influenced
his writing to stay away from drool repetition and use creative riffs,
eighths and bridges - or something like that.

These kids have a great sound are having fun touring and playing their
music.  In my humble opinion, they are starting out on what could be a
brilliant career.  If they are touring near you, support them.  Buy their
music.  In the "Top 40" era we still live in, where being successful depends
on sounding like everybody else, fresh sounds, good lyrics and musicianship
should be supported.

Thank you, and good night.

Steven Paul
Salt Lake City, Utah


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