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         Chalkhills Digest, Volume 10, Number 10

                  Tuesday, 2 March 2004


                Shopping with Andy & Colin
                        New Music
     BLISS DESCENDING, The Start of Something Great?
                 How did I get into XTC?
              Re: How did you get into XTC?
                 Re: how he got into XTC
                    How I got into XTC
                 The American music scene
                  Dave Gregory + Pugwash
            We lost the arizonachalkhillwives
             See the Wonderfalls Music Video!
            Re: Volume 10, Number 9 generally
                         Re: BBC6
                     Jaccuzi Juicies
          Fine, you want a band to check out...?
               Bobbing Along in Our Barrel


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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:27:49 -0800 (PST)
From: Kevin Collins <>
Subject: Shopping with Andy & Colin
Message-ID: <>
Organization: ACME

Regarding this....

>From: Steve Dockery <>
>Subject: I'd Like That...and that and that.
>Heard "I'd Like That" playing on the speakers at Giant Food last night.

Funny- I heard it in a supermarket a couple weeks ago myself!

The Internet doesn't always work.


Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 09:19:26 -0800
From: Phil Corless <>
Subject: New Music
Message-ID: <>

"Amen brother to the Chalker who said that the only
place to find out about good new music is on

Let's not forget and as sources for good new music.

In the past five years, most of my music purchases have been based on
reviews and recommendations I've read on Chalkhills, Fufkin, NotLame, and


Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:28:52 -0500
Subject: BLISS DESCENDING, The Start of Something Great?
Message-ID: <>


Ah yes, I'm enjoying the reports on the Stephen Duffy album, I LOVE MY
FRIENDS.  I bought this fantastic disk upon official release at the Other
Music store here in town, and perhaps even gave it an honorable mention
here in one of my contributions when first joining.  It is fantastic, and
if anyone knows if he's done a follow-up since, let me know.

Some grand new albums are starting now to flood the shelves, so much to
enjoy and too much to keep up with--Jason Falkner's new e.p. is being sold
at Not Lame!!!  I haven't gotten mine yet, but I just found out about it
this morning!  Can't wait for the full-length.  What I have gotten is a
surprisingly delightful disk from Chris Difford, with slight shades of
HOLLAND-era Beach Boys with those rich piano chords; and on a related note,
Jules Holland's third SMALL WORLD, BIG BAND disk has also dropped here as
an import.  Yeah, I know that next year it will bea  a domestic item, but I
so love these wonderful gatherings of musical talent, and so miss the
"NIGHT MUSIC" show of a similar kind, sometimes co-hosted by Holland on New
York's WNBC-TV affiliate, that I just had to plunk down the import prices
to get the goods *NOW*!  Other soon-to-come wonders and stuff already
here-- Jules Sheer is coming with a disk of covers, including a wonderful
take on Todd Rundgren's "Be Nice to Me", and there are two great Lamb Chop
albums with the greatest titles I've heard on two simultaneously released
disks thus far this year, AW C'MON and NO, YOU C'MON!  Can't wait to get

On the reissue end, I did buy the box of George Harrison's DARK HORSE
YEARS, at first dismayed as to why the remainder of the Apple catalogue was
glossed over to get to the finale.  Did someone at Capitol mix up the
chapters in this fantastic musical book?  Needless to say, I know that some
have reservations on Harrison's solo stuff, but I'd been eagerly awaiting
this for some time and just had to snag it.  Yet, I'm puzzled to note that
it doesn't contain that flip side of the single, "I Got my Mind Set on
You".  Strange!

Oh, and one other point I'd like to make, regarding a fellow contributor's
note about a possible forthcoming box from Virgin on XTC singles, wouldn't
this be a great way to get all missing B-sides, originally compiled on RAG
AND BONE BUFFET or the missing B's of the single of "Peter Pumpkinhead"?
If any of you know a complete list of XTC singles over the years, both
import and domestic, along with their rare or widely available B-sides,
please list 'em here or drop me a line off-list.  I might welcome an XTC
SINGLES COLLECTION box, even though such things can be quite pricey.

And, also, will someone please reiterate  just what Orphius is?  I don't
have access to the internet and, so, cannot log on to the APE website for
updates.  Is this a full Andy Partridge project?  Where else is it
available?  I'd seen nothing about it on the Sirendisk Updates that I get
from that mail order list.

Thanks and let's keep enjoying the music while the world around us
continues to de-evolve.

Bring on the smarter monkeys.



Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:43:32 EST
Subject: How did I get into XTC?
Message-ID: <>

In a message dated 27/02/2004 17:10:03 GMT Standard Time,
<> writes:

> Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2004 20:31:52 -0700
> From: "Thomas Vest" <>
> Subject: How did you get into XTC?
> Message-ID: <>
> I watched "Magpie".   They did "Science Friction" with what I remember as an
extraordinarily large drum kit and many flashing lights.

Large drum kits and flashing lights were all i needed back in those deeply
impressionable times....

Mmmmmm......flashing lights.....


Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 12:33:03 -0500
From: <>
Subject: Re: How did you get into XTC?
Message-ID: <>

I'd liked a number of the band's singles from Drums and Wires and
Black Sea thanks to an early video show I used to watch in high
school, Rock World (!). When I got to college, I befriended an older
guy who had a great stereo system, a great record collection, and an
even better can of the finest buds of pot. The day XTC FULLY clicked
for me, we'd gotten done smoking some tight, purple buds, and then he
cranked up the newly released English Settlement for me. I was blown
away and haven't recovered from that album since. The buzz from the
purple buds cleared up long ago.



Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:45:53 EST
Subject: Re: how he got into XTC
Message-ID: <>

Hey Chalkies,

   Always reading, rarely posting ...

   In any case, I liked Thomas' account of how he got into XTC. Here's my

   I worked in a record store in Orange County, Ca.  called Music Plus. I
was a confirmed pro-rock snob at the time and was given the odious task of
maintaining the punk/new wave bin.  I was undergoing a period of self doubt,
because (unknown to all my muso friends) I really liked the Sex Pistol's
"God Save The Queen."

   One day an odd looking album arrived, covered with a long typewritten
message for cover art. I read it, and thought "now this is one odd but
effective cover." I filed it away for future reference, but didn't actually
buy the record.

   A couple of years later, I am a confirmed fan of English "New Wave" stuff
and living in Sacramento, Ca. Huge on Elvis Costello, Rockpile, Joe Jackson,
The Pretenders ... you have the idea. On the same day as I pick up my second
album by The Jam, I decide to take a fly at this XTC band; I choose the
current one, which is inside a paper bag with the title "Black Sea." I
arrive home and spin that one first ... it took me two days to get around to
the Jam's "Sound Affects."

    I've never looked back, and every XTC album is like a special little
gift. I wish they were a little more prolific in the release dept., but they
are an indie act now and it takes money to get the product out. I just wish
Caroline would be a little more pushy with Tower and such; the same two
leftover discs have been in the XTC been at Tower, Citrus Heights for

    A plug, if you could humor me ... my new CD, "Gearhead" is now out and
will be available on by the time you read this. My stuff has been
described as "Tom Petty if he were English"; if you feel like it, check it

Warren in Sacramento


Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 14:50:50 -0500
From: "Brad Dietz" <>
Subject: How I got into XTC
Message-ID: <>

Add one Tower Records listening station. Add some free time. Add "Apple
Venus Volume 1" in the bin next to the headphones. Check out said album via
headphones. Voila. Hooked for life. Simple as that.



Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 15:01:46 -0800
From: David Gershman <>
Subject: The American music scene
Message-ID: <>

It was written:

>   "the Superbowl halftime entertainment was 'Superbad'.
>   Janet J has nothing to do with this analysis though.
>   The greater whole of the program involved re-treads
>   of music long gone by that sold their million copies
>   and since should have been retired.  What has
>   happened to the term 'fresh'?"
>However, I do not expect the Super Bowl half time show
>to be fresh. It could have a jazz theme or "music of
>the civil war" or whatever. I don't even really expect
>it to be good. I guess I just don't expect it to be
>THAT bad. It was the worst collection of awful crap I
>have ever witnessed, and I count the episodes of
>American Idol that my family has forced me to watch in
>that assessment.
>It's really just a manifestation of our current music
>scene's lack of, well, everything. I wouldn't be
>surprised if next year's super bowl half time show is
>much worse.

Not to pick on anyone in particular, but I've been following this thread in
the past couple of digests with a bit of, well, I don't know, call it an
"Uh-duh!" reaction, for lack of a more eloquent term. Basically, since when
does anyone expect the "Top 40" (although I guess that term might be a bit
outdated these days -- is there still a weekly Top 40 show?) to be a
reflection of what's going on in terms of good, original music? As I'm
certain we here on the list all know too well, it's mostly a reflection of
what the industry foists upon us, with the rare, anomalous true talent
slipping into the mix. The 1960s probably had the highest proportion of
truly great music on the charts, but even then, there was much forgettable
crap (you know, that stuff you forgot about). And of course, only the
biggest-selling acts have any chance of appearing on half-time shows and
the like. Those things don't define "the music scene" (at least not the way
I would think of it) -- the scene is as much about the music that's out
there that you'll never see on shows like that.

To use what you see on the Superbowl half-time show or most of the awards
shows as evidence that there just isn't any good American music anymore is
to be falling for the music industry's commercial interests hook, line, and
stinker ("typo" intended). As is almost always the case, you've got to dig
deeper -- listen to the truly alternative radio stations (for one of the
best non-college stations, listen to KEXP, online at, or on
the radio at 90.3 if you happen to live near Seattle -- it's
listener-supported, commercial-free, and not subject to the usual
corporate-parent pressure to play only what sells). Even watching the
"Subterranean" show on MTV2 is a good and easy place to start. Read the
good music mags -- Rolling Stone isn't one -- and good online music sites
-- is, among others -- for the reviews that might
point you in the direction of the best new stuff. Learn which reviewers you
agree with on the stuff you know, and then assume that their
recommendations about stuff you don't know might be worth following. Take
those recommendations and plug them into the All-Music Guide or,
read the reviews there, follow the links to other artists that people who
liked this one or that one liked -- pretty soon you'll find yourself
delving into singers and bands you had never heard of, and you'll marvel at
all this talent that has been just waiting to be discovered. As much as I
appreciate the recommendations I get through Chalkhills, that only accounts
for about 5% of the music I discover each year and enjoy. You've got to be
a bit aggressive in your hunt for the new, unusual, and amazingly talented,
but it's worth every moment of it when you hit upon a CD that you love
every minute of and never would have heard if you had just waited for it to
come to you.

The American music scene (or any other, for that matter) doesn't
suck...just most of the garbage that the industry decides it can make money
on does. Get out there and discover! Love the search!

Dave Gershman


Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 21:30:07 -0000
From: "Shabbyroad Media" <>
Subject: Dave Gregory + Pugwash
Message-ID: <000401c3fe42$0b440690$847ba8c0@shabbyroad01>
Organization: Shabbyroad Media

For anyone who is interested :

Dave has agreed to score strings for two songs by my buddy Pugwash
( that will feature on the next Pugwash album.

Plan is to record these two tracks in Abbey Road Studio Two (yes.. **that**
one) in early April with the good people of The Section

We're looking forward to Dave's demos and he has very kindly agreed to
attend the recording session. (yes.. There'll be photos and videos !)

If you're interested in things Pugwash then you might like the new Pugwash
Fans group

If you've no idea why you'd be interested in Pugwash then you gotta buy
'Earworm'. You won't be disappointed. You won't.

After all , the first Pugwash album was titled after a comment by Andy.

That's all really.

-Peter, somewhere in Dublin, Ireland


Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2004 18:25:13 -0800 (PST)
From: Ryan Anthony <>
Subject: We lost the arizonachalkhillwives
Message-ID: <>

We Arizona Chalkhillers are a small tribe, but even
though one of us has dubbed Phoenix "hell" and is
heading for the Carolinas, there are still two or
three or four of us left. In case you were wondering.

Why so few of us? We lost the arizonachalkhillwives.
We don't even remember what they look like. In your
trampings across Chalkhill-earth, dear Chalksiblings,
have you seen the arizonachalkhillwives, perchance?

Speaking of friendships which this Vast Relph-Wing
Conspiracy has engendered: A couple of years ago, I
thought I was going to make a Chalknymph into a
bona-fide arizonachalkhillwife, but she got away. I
owe her for many kindnesses, including gifts of music:
several CDs of XTC/Partridge/Gregory rarities. If she
remains in Chalkhill-earth, I hope she will contact

Entering the 21st Century hesitant step by hesitant
step, I have begun to download music from iTunes and
to burn CDs. The very first music to grace my new
iBook's 40G hard drive was the soundtrack to *Monsoon
Wedding* (which I recommend to everyone, music and
movie both), but now I'm importing my entire XTC
library along with other favorites. I'm taking the
opportunity to listen to every song, or at least a
portion of each, as it makes its curious binary
journey from CD to HD, and I am renewed in my devotion
to Our Heroes. I weep for their sacrifices. And it
occurs to me ... maybe the reason Colin has written a
mere four songs in the past decade is that his
stigmata have not yet healed?

iTunes' music library has gaping holes -- no Marshall
Chapman, no Howard Shore movie scores (I was looking
for both *LOTR* and *That Thing You Do!*), no *Silent
Running* Soundtrack by Peter Schickele (I want the two
Joan Baez vocals), no Emerson Lake & Palmer (I want
"Fanfare For the Common Man"), no Beatles to speak of,
no Shel Silverstein other than his kiddie verses (I
want "The Smoke Off"), and very little XTC -- but our
Chalksister Becki DiGregorio is represented, albeit by
one song on a compilation, not either of her own

So far I've spent five bucks at iTunes, because it
does have some gems, such as "'39" by Queen and lots
and lots of Los Lobos.

Ryan Anthony
An independent Internet content provider

P.S.: The lyrics to Shel Silverstein's "The Smoke Off"
are here ...


Date: Sun, 29 Feb 2004 08:49:17 -0500
From: "Tim and Steph Schreyer" <>
Subject: See the Wonderfalls Music Video!
Message-ID: <004001c3feca$d3ce56f0$0200a8c0@D733S021>

Resplendent with "25 O'clock"-style cut art in portions!  Click "Watch
the Music Video!"

Go, Andy!



Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 00:30:38 +0000
From: "Chris Mullin" <>
Subject: Re: Volume 10, Number 9 generally
Message-ID: <>

Hello to you all,

All this talk about coming out and generally de-lurking has finally
forced me to participate. So here goes - be gentle it's my first

>> Shabbyroad Media BBC R6 29/02/04

Thanks Pete this would've passed me by without your info. I'm
listening to it now. It's hardly surprising I love xtc when most of
the tracks andy played have a special resonnance (or even strike a
chord..) for me too - must be my age.

>>Benjamin Gott

Yes Stephen Duffy really got to me with his last few albums - must try
harder and buy ILMF too! Cummon, there's only 24 hours in a day - and
so much good music out there. This seems to be confounded by a
requirement from the most rewarding songs to be listened to a good few
times - btw what is that number of times? Can you overdo it and
'use-up' a song before it's emotional expiry date? Further is there a
period after which that fave track will sound new and fresh again, and
for how long? god knows - who cares.

>>Superfly  - annoying woodblock on King for a day

Isn't there another track like this? Wish i could be arsed to check it
out but i'm sure there's another relentless   woodblock sound that
annoys the hell out of me - oh for the innocence of dansette.

>> Benjamin Gott again - finding xtc

Wish I had your luck mate, a female actually recommending xtc! I would
think that xtc women are few and far between - rocking horse shit
etc. I'm probably biased - by the sad fact that my wife has always
hated xtc. Perhaps she resents them in a jealous way, perhaps it's me
she can't stand, but it has always slightly reduced my 'listening
pleasure'. It makes me evangelise more earnestly about the merits of
particular tracks - I play them too often too loud and it does'nt help
my (our) cause. In fact since I lost contact with an old friend (keith
anderson from South Shields where are you?) - I have absorbed and been
moved by xtcs' music in 'splendid isolation'.

So a special thanks (and i mean this most sincerely folks), thanks to
you all for just 'being there'.

my own 2003 (now pronounced 'twenty oh three' - BBC R4 - and rightly
so) in no order:-
elbow,stephen duffy,mull histoical society,lemon jelly,arthur
lee,eels,colin blunstone,incredible string band,athlete,damien rice,
super furry animals,flaming lips,jerry springer the opera.


Chris Mullin

- actual size is of course relative - just ask TMBG.

'something wonderfully witty and relevent' ....... unfortunately by
someone else.

Please do not associate me with the adverts that will, no doubt,
accompany this mail.


Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 02:31:13 +0000
From: "dunks58" <>
Subject: Chalkgratulations
Message-ID: <>

Off topic, but it looks like I'm first, so hearty good wishes to our
friend, Canberra Chalker Iain Murray and his partner Louise, on the
birth of their new baby girl, Genevieve.

In the words of a great Aussie football coach:

"Played strong, done good!"



Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 10:39:19 -0000
From: "Richard Hall" <>
Subject: Re: BBC6
Message-ID: <01b801c3ff79$73f86450$5da78051@Den>

Thanks for the heads up - I shall set my Sky+ to capture it for a CD.....


>From: "Shabbyroad Media" <>
>Subject: Andy on BBC6 this Sunday Feb 29th
>Andy will be on BBC6 (available on ye olde internet) this Sunday morning.
>It's at 9:00am GMT but BBC6 usually have the shows available online for a
>couple of weeks.
>Link here :


Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 14:00:43 +0000
From: "Paul Culnane" <>
Subject: Jaccuzi Juicies
Message-ID: <>

Hey, I am not prepared to divulge any further sordid details about fun in
the tub with Terry.  The rest of it remains (heh heh) under wraps, okay?
But thanks for your vouyerism...

However, while far be it from me to try to embarrass anyone, and keeping in
mind how cool a lot of Chalkie-people are, I just want to declare this: Mark
Kirk from Canada RAWKS!!!!!!  (Big-time)

Some XTC-related news.  Peter Fitz said I could now spread this news (and
*he* hasn't so far, so):  Dave Gregory has been commissioned to score and
arrange some orchestral parts for the next Pugwash record.  It is soon to be
recorded in no less than Abbey Road!  If you like Jellyfish/Jason Falkner,
Beck, The Move, ELO and, ahem, XTC, give Pugwash a listen.  More details at: won't be disappointed.

Everything is very nice.  Made nicer by a fantabulous record by The
Dissociatives, called "Somewhere Down The Barrel".  Brilliant!  Seek it

Oh, "Dunder" still rates for me too.  Goodnight.


Date: Mon, 01 Mar 2004 10:39:26 -0800
From: Evansky <>
Subject: Fine, you want a band to check out...?
Message-ID: <>

I don't often write and I seldomer (yes, that's not a word) hear bands
that I like or feel are worth recommending. Well, I heard these guys
last nite and they're pretty cool, so I hereby formally recommend...

The 88.

Turns out these guys are from my area (trendy, artsy Silver Lake, in Los
Angeles.) They sound very mid-to-late 60's Kinks-ish. There's 3 full
songs to download from their site, all of them good (SURPRISE! Usually,
a band has one good song and the rest suck.)

No, I'm not in the band and I'm not getting paid. I don't even know
these guys. I just SO rarely hear new stuff that I like that I thought
I'd share. Hope y'all like 'em too.

Peace, Love and Understanding,


Currently in CD player: D&W Remastered. Sweeeeet!


Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:22:41 EST
Subject: Bobbing Along in Our Barrel
Message-ID: <>

No doubt I'm the 85th person to post this, but you can hear Andy's theme
song from the Fox show Wonderfalls by going to
It's not the Wings-y anthem thing that they've been playing in the show
promos (that's Prefab Sprout). Instead you have to click on the "Watch the
Music Video" link in the northwest quadrant of the Wonderfalls home page.

It's a real cute li'l song, highly Partridgean in its quirk-a-liciousness,
the chorus is catchy as hell, neat-o guitar playing, fabboo middle eight.
Backwards guitar! Well done Andy!

The fadeout is an absolute catalog of Andean vocal gymnastics: It'd be a fun
competition to name all the original XTC songs where first appeared all the
scatting and voice-roughening and slow chromatic swooping that you hear from
about 2:00 on.

And yes, I'd do Caroline Dhavernas. Definitely.

Harrison "Thanks for asking" Sherwood


Date: Mon, 1 Mar 2004 14:33:15 EST
Subject: Idiot
Message-ID: <>

Polyphonic Spree, not Prefab Sprout.

Pedicular Split
Pederastic Splot
Polymorphous Sprat
Peripatetic Splat

Harrison "Can't imagine how I could get the two mixed up" Sherwood


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