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              Chalkhills Digest, Number 447

                 Wednesday, 14 June 1995

Today's Topics:

                        Best solo?
                   time for intolerance
                         Heretic
                    Punk Diary and XTC
                 I dig this Beatles list!
                       Re:Bungalow
       Gyroscope sampler / Red Brick Dream chords?
                Re: Young Cleopatra lyrics
                   Re: Beat the Meatles
                    Strawberry Fields
                         Re: edge
                          How to
           Bad Bungalow, Bad Beatles, Bad Drugs
                  Re: Paul's Pink Thing
                   Hilarious Pomposity
                     secret messages
                    Huh?/First buys...
               Compiled info on Radio Tour
                   hippies and sisters
                   Hey, Look Look Here

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From: john%elsouth@ncren.net
Subject: Best solo?
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 13:02:15 EDT

   So what's the best solo project that the XTC members have been involved
in? I've seen the most positive press about AP and Harold Budd (Melman). Is
this an astute grasp of the sketchy data I'm presented with, or what?

- John White   CIS Manager   Electrical South Inc.   john%elsouth@concert.net
"Failure is not falling down... Failure is Cheese Whiz." - not Ken Morganstern

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Date:         Tue, 13 Jun 95 13:24:06 EDT
From: Ayanna Gaines <AYANNA@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      time for intolerance

to echo the sentiments of those who cry out, "hey, this is an xtc list, and
i'm tired of reading about x,y,z": ya know, i agree.  i joined this list to
hear about xtc, and all i get is band- width wasted on the kinks, the beach
boys, some fripp character (who should per chance get his own list, eh?),
prince scarlet or some such name (and where does this member of royalty get
off being mentioned in conjunction with xtc?), and on and on.  i demand
that this frivolousness stop immediately.  my university pays good money
for me to be on-line, and i'm not about to waste it on people i don't even
listen to.  i don't care if they've influenced the queen of england or
covered "peter pumpkinhead," or if the comparisons between robin hood and
robin williams are valid -- if it ain't xtc, keep it to yerselves.  take
your musings on they might be giants and eno elsewhere, me buckos.  if you
dare to mention todd r., it had better be in conjunction with _skylarking_,
or hordes of shocked and offended chalkhillians will descend upon yer head
and flail you with vinyl 45's.  heavens!  the depravity we must suffer on
this list!  it's almost as despicable as all the murmurings about kate bush
on the tori amos list.  we really must be stricter about what we'll allow
on these lists, ya know.  can't have any freedom of speech running rampant
'round here, no sirree . . . .

   -- ayanna, who thinks sarcasm is lost on most people

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Date: Tue, 13 Jun 95 17:37 EST
From: Jeffrey Langr <0005392548@mcimail.com>
Subject: Heretic

In light of all the crap re: the B***tes (to which I put in my 2c worth
anyway), I'm gonna be a heretic here and suggest that maybe XTC aren't
necessarily geniuses nor were the B***les.  XTC sure can make some catchy
tunes, and put some very clever lyrics to them, but to say that they are
better or smarter than the Offspring, for example, is being a bit elitist.
Smartass lyrics do not a genius band make.  Most of you could probably come
up with some good intellectual lyrics.

Genius?  The Ramones were for four LP's, Eno was also for 4 LP's, the Kinks
were from '67 - '70, XTC was until somewhere between Skylarking and
Nonsuch, Jimi Hendrix was until midway through Electric Ladyland, Beethoven
was for most of his works, and Mozart was, is, and always will be. It
usually doesn't last. The B***les were smart enough to change, stay on top,
and quit soon enough, I'd say that's got some genius in it.

As far as I'm concerned (and you may differ), music is more of a mood thing
than a thinking thing.  I look for power, excitement, anger -- in short,
passion, in the music I listen to, something XTC used to have but no longer
does.  I don't find myself wanting to go help Andy solve the problem of
homelessness ("Farting Monkeys") much as I wanted to be a revolutionary
sort waiting for them to kick at my front door ("Guns of Brixton").  Even
though I'm half a generation out, I can identify with all the stuff in
Smash.  I always feel I have to be at the beach every time I hear the
Slickee Boys "When I Go to the Beach" or the Ramones' "Rockaway Beach".
When I'm miserable I listen to "I'm Not Down"; when I want to jump all over
my living room and bounce off the walls singing I put on "Helicopter".

I rarely go to my CD deck and look for a song or CD because I want to
listen to some intelligent, introspective lyrics with no concern for how
the music affects me.  If I wanted to do that I'd just go buy a tape of
some Henry Rollins "poetry" or like garbage.

Which gets me back to the original point, the XTC stuff that is really good
is not just tuneful and not just clever but combines it all into a powerful
*song*.  Same with the B***les. Senses Working Overtime, Respectable
Street, Sexy Sadie, Merely a Man, She Said, Then She Appeared.

Regarding the suggestion that the B***les stuff is junk: it's all a
question of how the stuff affects you.  I still have Sweet tunes ingrained
into my brain and they still sound great to me (no shame here either); I
still have a problem keeping Eno's classic stuff out of my CD turntable.
But you'll almost never catch me potting up the whole Nonsuch CD anymore,
it just doesn't do anything for me.

Sincerely,
Jeff L.

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From: ExitRampPR@aol.com
Date: Tue, 13 Jun 1995 23:49:45 -0400
Subject: Punk Diary and XTC

Hi there Chalks!

Hopefully, I'm not repeating news to the list here.

Just wanted to recommend some XTC related reading called *Punk Diary
1970-1979* by George Gimarc from St. Martin's Press.  I finished reading
the work a little while ago.  Punk Diary gives a detailed day by day
account of the punk movement from 1970 to 1979.  Anyone who is a fan of
this era or just enjoys rock history will find this a very entertaining and
complete reference detailing stories, gigs, albums and rare singles.  For
the XTC fan it also holds great value.  For instance, Andy Partridge's band
Stiff Beach is the 2nd entry (August 1970) in the book.  I think that says
a lot about XTC's personnel.  Pre-XTC and XTC entries appear throughout the
time span placing them as an important element in the punk story.  Check it
out.  It's a great story.

Also this drugs thing.  I think the logical time for XTC to be doing any
drugs would have been during the seventies when they were younger and free
to do such things.  However, there music at that time does not reflect drug
use(then again White Music might be just a big bottle of uppers).  Anyway,
later on, (post Black Sea) when would these guys have time to do drugs?
They lived non-touring lives and some had family to keep.  Anyway, I find
the later music much too creatively focused to be drug induced.  I don't
think there is a trip in there anywhere.

Paul

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From: m.mccormick2@genie.geis.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 04:39:00 UTC
Subject: I dig this Beatles list!

I just got in this Beatles list.  It is really cool.  It is so neat we
all love the Beatles and we can talk about them so much!!!

The only problem is there are some people trying to talk about some
group called XTC.  It is very annoying.  Please make them stop!

Let it be,
Jethro

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 03:03:41 -0400
From: cmcst42+@pitt.edu (Chris Connors)
Subject: Re:Bungalow

As ToddT8@aol.com wrote:
>certainly better than something like The Disappointed which is pure sugar
>>coated, gooey, bad Beach Boys (even Kokomo is a better song than this, he
>said, >bracing for major flames).

Well, here they come.

XTC has the distinction of performing the two best Beach Boys song written
by some one other than Brian Wilson. One is "the Disapointed", and the
other is "So Pale and Precious".

Really. To compare either of these to "Kokomo" is uncalled for.

Chris Connors                           cmcst42+@pitt.edu
                    http://www.pitt.edu/~cmcst42/cmc.html

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 02:06:30 -0800
From: Michael Travis <JSMDT@acad1.alaska.edu>
Subject: Gyroscope sampler / Red Brick Dream chords?

Hi all,

I just picked up a new disc, which should be added to the discography.
First, to make things easy for John, here's the info pretty much in
the format he's been using:

_Future Perfect_
       Gyroscope/All Saints Records sampler includes
       _Andy Partridge/Harold Budd:_ Western island of apples (3'00);
       Bruegel (2'43).

       + CD, Gyroscope (Caroline) USA, GYR 6609-2, 1995.

This sampler is probably also available on cassette, but I have
no easy way of verifying this. I have no idea if there is an
All Saints UK release of this.

Note also that while the back cover has a copyright of 1994,
two places in the liner notes inside have 1995, and laser-etched
on the inner rim of the disc itself is the date 1-10-95.
I know this a fairly trivial release, but I figure if John's going
to the trouble of maintaining his excellent discography, the info
we give him should be as accurate as possible.

Now, for any interested here's the complete track listing.
All items in parenthesis are from the liner notes, and are not
my comments.

ROGER ENO (from _Lost In Translation_)
  1. domus in nebulae
  2. saint columbas' walk (exclusive to this CD)

ANDY PARTRIDGE/HAROLD BUDD (from _Through The Hill_)
  3. western island of apples
  4. bruegel (previously unreleased)

BRIAN ENO (from _Glitterbug_)
  (...the versions of the tracks that appear here are exclusive
   to this compilation.)
  5. stravinsky
  6. distant hill
  7. radiothesia III

CHANNEL LIGHT VESSEL (from _Automatic_)
  8. testify
  9. faint aroma of snow (previously unreleased)

KATE ST JOHN (1995 release)
 10. for the love of you (initial mix)
 11. your promised land (initial mix)

BILL NELSON (from _Practically Wired_)
 12. big noise in twangtown
 13. her presence in flowers

With each group of tracks in the liner notes, there is a paragraph.
Here's the one for the Partridge/Budd stuff:

  However unusual this combination might seem at first, it would
  be hard to deny that Harold Budd's minimalist background and
  Andy Partridge's involvement with XTC would make for an interesting
  and satisfying partnership. "We didn't have a clue what we were
  going to come up with before we met," comments Andy, "but we found
  a common ground between the kind of thing Harold likes and the kind
  of thing I like and created Frankenstein's bathing beauty." Adds
  Harold, "We hadn't the faintest idea what the musical bit would be
  like, but that was the fun part because that's when we would start
  decorating the bridge and deciding what the gargoyles would look like."

This disc only cost me US$11, and although after a first listen
nothing struck me as outstanding, I don't mind having it.
(Kinda how I feel about the _Through The Hill_ disc.)

I was disappointed that the other extra track from the Japanese
release of _Through The Hill_ isn't on this disc, but I sure
don't care enough about it to shell out the money for the import.

***** And now for something completely different:

Now that I have _The Big Express_ on CD, I've recently fallen
in love with Red Brick Dream. I REALLY want guitar tabs/chords
for this song. On the surface it seems fairly basic, but it sounds
like Andy's doing something nutty like bringing 'parts' of barre
chords up the neck while letting some strings ring open.
(Or is it several guitar parts multi-tracked?)

I just can't make out exactly what he's doing! Anyone know this
tune already or willing to take a stab at it?

------------------------------

From: DFerg@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 07:09:42 -0400
Subject: Re: Young Cleopatra lyrics


From: sellheim@zfn.uni-bremen.de (Erich Sellheim)
>
> Hi everyone, when I recently had a look at the FTP archive,I noticed
> the lyrics of Young Cleopatra,one of my favourite songs,being quite
> incomplete and partially wrong. After having listened to both the
> Jules Verne and the outtake version for quite some time,I managed to
> get nearly all of the words:

Well, nearly-- but we are getting there! I have some changes that I feel are
more accurate. Maybe they are, maybe not. You tell me, friends of Chalk:

> I see them offering you gum I hear the swarming schoolkids' hum A tribe of
> polyester warriors spellbound They bring you offerings to please Like
> cigarettes or new LP's You'll have them on their knees and begging Just to
> play with your comb One glance from those two eyes Will seal your playground
> empire
>
> My oh my,...............,young Cleopatra-a-a-a My oh my,what a wonderful
> prize,young Cleopatra-a-a-a You'll never be a queen unless you do as you're
> told You wouldn't understand it being fourteen years old

Don't ever give your love for free But then again,don't ever let it be sold

> You have your teachers in a trap There's no age limit or no gap To
> who you set
> alight with fire............ I'm glad your father is my friend And now that
> school is at an end He's only an excuse for me To wait here at your palace
> gates One glance from those two eyes Will seal your playground empire

Your school uniform looks grey on others and super on you Your yellow wooden

> rule,a golden sceptre to prove it's true
>
> You're at the youth club near the drums The young guitarist buzzer strums
> Anything his royal majesty wishes Your borrowed perfume fills the air Pale
> nostrils start to flare It's more than some can bear But this is your court
> and they are your dogs One glance from those two eyes Will seal your
> playground empire...

Just a few changes, and some areas of lyric that were cleared up for
me as well.

dferg @aol.com (I may *send* mail through other gateways,but receive
it on AOL;)

David Ferguson
8621 Lochdale
Dearborn Heights, MI 48127

PS Still trading cassette copies of the Andy Partridge Hello disc.
Interested let me know!

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 8:58:30 -0400
From: "Greg O'Rear" <jgo.systems@mhs.unc.edu>
Organization: UNC
Subject: Re: Beat the Meatles

whee@morgan.com (Gerald Wheeler) wrote extremely cogently:

> When I was in high school (c.1977-1981) there was not a bigger Beatles or
> (sadly) Wings fan than myself.

Hmm, that's when I was in high school, and I must have tied you as
biggest Beatles fan.

> Now, I find the group absolutely unlistenable...simplistic and juvenile.

Odd.  I like them even more, now.  I'm a better musician than I was in high
school.  I can appreciate their skill in the studio, their cool tricks,
their songwriting ability.  Definitely not simplistic and juvenile--not
taken altogether.  Granted there are a few songs like that, but mostly not.
I'd recommend you read Alan Pollack's excellent treatment of Beatles songs
>From a musical theory point of view (he posts to rec.music.beatles now and
again), just for a different take on things.

> I'm not even sure the Beatles were as such an innovation as people now claim
> ...they were superior to all...except the Rolling Stones.

I don't see the Stones as innovators at all.  While the Beatles were around
and kicking, the Stones were playing catch up.  Witness "Their Satanic
Majesties Request", a derivative album if I ever heard one.  As for The
Beatles' innovations, I'm sure there is a better chronicle somewhere, but I
can think of a few.  John claims (rightly, I believe) that they had the
first intentionally recorded feedback ("I Feel Fine", 1964).
 First backwards music on a rock and roll track ("Rain"), etc.  I'll spare
everyone the recitation, as this is an XTC arena.  Even if the Boys didn't
personally invent a lot of the innovations, they caused them.  (Artificial
double tracking was invented for them at Abbey Road).  Etc.

The thing that continues to astonish me the most about their songwriting
and innovation, even granted the tumultuous 1960's, is their rapid
development.  1964 began with "I Want To Hold Your Hand" and ended with "I
Feel Fine".  1965 ended with the "Rubber Soul" album.  And 1966 ended with
"Strawberry Fields Forever".  That, to me, is the most breathtaking
progression of sophistication and ability I'm ever likely to witness.
Bands that were on par with them in 1964 and the beginning of 1965 began to
be left in the dust.  There were very few of the same caliber.  Perhaps
Brian Wilson up until the "Smile" breakdown.  The Hollies never had the
depth.  The Stones were still trying their hand at white-boy blues.  When
the Stones stopped trying so hard to be black, or to be The Beatles, they
came into their own as great songwriters.  There's no denying that the
Glimmer Twins had a great catalog of songs as the 1960's wore on.  But the
Stones really didn't begin to click as a great band until after The Beatles
broke up (no connection :-).  Ray Davies might have been able to pilot The
Kinks into the same areas as The Beatles, had The Kinks had more of a
recording budget.  Certainly his songwriting was first rate; who knows
about the other innovations.

> [ karaoke, universality of Beatles music ]

I'd argue that all those varied people knew those songs for a reason, and
it's not just nostalgia--it's quality.

> [ Prospect of buying BBC album nauseates ]

I was one of the first out of the gate to get it, and it has some wonderful
moments.  I'm a die-hard fan; I had to have it.  I eagerly await a release
of all their videos.  Maybe one day....  (Maybe one day I'll also get my
hands on an XTC video compilation.  :-)

> [ The Beatles were for adolescents and nostalgia ]...It's the fond
> resurrection and recollection of our youth that causes the Beatles
> popularity to endure, not the quality or significance of their
> music....as we mature and our curiosity leads us to more sophisticated
> and lasting artistic accomplishments like opera and liturgical music.

I'd argue that the best of the Beatles' music will be as long-lasting.
It's a different category, to be sure, but has no less quality.  I'll meet
you half way and say that Debussy's "Clair de Lune" is one of the most
beautiful songs ever written.  I also like Ravel, Saint-Saens, Barber,
Beethoven, Satie...The Jam, Jellyfish, Martin Newell, Emitt Rhodes, Happy
Rhodes, Tori Amos...quality can be found everywhere.  I'm sorry you don't
enjoy The Beatles anymore as much as I do, but then, you have my share of
opera and liturgical music.

--
Greg O'Rear                    Computing Consultant IV, Novell CNA
ADP, Univ. of North Carolina   E-mail: jgo.systems@mhs.unc.edu
440 West Franklin Street       Phone: (919) 962-0821; FAX: (919) 962-0900
Chapel Hill, NC  27599-1150    WWW: http://www.adp.unc.edu/~jgo/

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From: ZITTEL@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 09:22:21 -0400
Subject: Strawberry Fields

With all this talk about XTC vs. The Beatles (enough already!, I'm sick of
the debate), I didn't know if everyone was familiar with the CD 1967 Through
The Looking Glass. It was released in 1990 and has various artists covering
songs from 1967. One of these is a cover of Strawberry Fields by Colin's
Hermits (which is an alias for XTC). They do a great job of duplicating the
original and Andy does a very authentic vocal. Really interesting.

Also I didn't know if everyone has heard of the benefit single called Spirit
Of The Forest, which XTC contributed to. It was released in 1989. To me this
is one of the worst records that XTC is associated with. I could not imagine
anyone enjoying this piece of garbage. Does anyone agree?

More next time, Jim

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From: smcdow@arlut.utexas.edu (Stuart McDow)
Subject: Re: edge
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 09:15:35 -0600 (CDT)

 From the keyboard of ToddT8@aol.com
> I fear that XTC is moving into Paul McCartney post Beatles territory
> here.  They need to really strip the sound down a bit or else we may
> be hearing their version of Ebony and Ivory.

> Todd

DAMN! I have to agree. I like the _songs_ on Nonesuch, but their
production seemed half produced. Bland, bland, bland. Even Skylarking,
in its own way, had more of an edge that NS. This is not to say that
the songs aren't good, even excellent. But bland production of said
songs makes for a boring album.

I vote for Eno for producer. What he did for U2 on 'Achtung, Baby' was
excellent. He saved them from degenerating into PC-smarm-pop. Let's
have a little distortion from them amps!! Our boys should write up a
bunch of songs, go into the studio and give themselve over the
producer.

--
Stuart McDow                                      Applied Research Laboratories
smcdow@arlut.utexas.edu                       The University of Texas at Austin
(and then go on tour, dammit.)

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From: bdaniel@hayes.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 95 11:12:41 EDT
Subject: How to

Compare any group to the Beatles.
Although the act unto itself is utterly pointless as music should not
be categorized or compared, the act nonetheless is inevitable whenst
dealing with quality in the realm of XTC or Crowded House among no
others.

First, in my own mentally unbalanced way, I say; 'Would these chaps go
'round to the pub together?' As one will notice, the 'pudlians were at
the least a cohesive looking bunch as a bunches go to pubs. That's your
first sign of a group that could be compared to the Beatles. Most groups
who don't look like pub-pals usually aren't compared to the Beatles. Yes,
it's a quirky thing.

Next, if we're listening to a cohesive pop unit and we aren't sleeping,
then they must have some sort of musical appeal. Well then, the next
comparison hurdle, for me, is to say; 'Would I want to hear more than
ten tracks by this group more than ten times because I can't stop my
ears from wanting to?' That would compare to the Beatles. A worthy
catalog.

In the middle of that section, clearly an important one, I ask myself;
'Do I hear the individual personality of each band member along with
his personal contribution to this track?' That's a comparison to the
Beatles. One could always envision each face and set of hands doing
the work of the day. XTC - yes, Crowded House - yes.

Could I imagine the author only of the material sounding this special
with a bunch of hired hands? Beatles - no, XTC - no, Crowded House - no.

So, there. Nothing more is needed to compare anyone comparable to the
group who came first. The blessing and the curse of coming first and
setting so many watermarks.

I choose not to hold any artist accountable for being influenced by any
particular Beatle period or actual work. I'm just thankful someone was
influenced enough to help me blot out the crap that wasn't.

As a musician and being of my generation, born in 62, I hold the Beatles
in the appropriate reverence for an unbalanced man. In the same thought,
I have been far more impressed and influenced by Andy Partridge and Neil
Finn because of their own unique contributions to my development which
stand well on their own and have absolutely nothing to do with John or
Paul.

We're all damned lucky to have each of them.

'Til next time...Sorry John, and hello Mel and James.

Brent.

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 11:03:22 -0700
From: mgooch@scn.org (Marshall Gooch)
Subject: Bad Bungalow, Bad Beatles, Bad Drugs

(This rant originally appeared on the Elvis Costello list due to
the fact that I sent it there by mistake. I've got crosswires.)

Todd, don't feel bad about "Bungalow." I happen to think "Rook"
is yukky, but most people I mention it to think I'm nuts. Which
I am.
As for the Beatles brouhaha, can we take it somewhere else,
please? We can work it out--outside the XTC list!
Finally, as for whether XTC have done/do drugs when making their
music, so what? Does it make it any more or less valid? As long
as they continue putting out worthwhile music, who cares?
Thank you, and good night.

--
\\ Marshall Gooch | PO Box 23217 | Seattle, WA 98102-0517 USA //
//        mgooch@scn.org         |       MGooch@medio.net     \\

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From: HShea@aol.com
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 15:03:52 -0400
Subject: Re: Paul's Pink Thing

Alan:  elaborate more on this "Paul McCartney's penis" thing.. i mean, why
would XTC do a song about his penis??

Holly

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 13:31:01 -0700
From: will@wired.com (Will Kreth)
Subject: Hilarious Pomposity

At 7:46 AM 6/13/95, whee@morgan.com (Gerald Wheeler) spat forth:

>The Beatles were great music for adolescents--no doubt.  When we feel
>nostalgic, there is nothing better than Rubber Soul and Yesterday (and Today);
>but only when we feel nostalgic.  It's the fond resurrection and recollection
>of our youth that causes the Beatles popularity to endure, not the quality or
>significance of their music. I suspect the same may be true of all rock bands
>as we mature and our curiosity leads us to more sophisticated and lasting
>artistic accomplishments like opera and liturgical music.  So let's love the
>Beatles for what they gave us when we were young (Obla-di Obla-da) and for the
>temporary elixir they provide us when we are older
>
>Cordially,
>
>Jerry Wheeler

Jerry,

Let's get this straight - by your own admission, you listened to the songs
of the Beatles and Paul McCartney and Wings (yoiks!) until you were sick to
death of them. That in itself is forgivable. But then you subjectively
extrapolate from your own auditory over-indulgences that the oevure of the
Beatles was not of lasting quality, nor musically sophisitcated.

Next, you'll be telling us that Jimi Hendrix was only a scuffling blues
guitarist who "got lucky" by just turning up his amplifiers to
ear-shattering decibles (no arguement there) to become an over-rated
"flash-in-the-pan" with no discernable body of quality compostions left to
his legacy.

In short, your projections do not a credible arguement make.

See you at the opera - not!

The key part of the word "liturgical" is "turgid."

Only those with no child left in them would need an "elixir" for their lost
youth.

And finally, Andy Partridge strikes me as a man who is certainly in-touch
with his inner tyke. That's why we love his bald, badass, man-child self!

Next!

_wk-

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 16:58:56 -0400 (EDT)
From: kathryn lynne burda <klburda@umich.edu>
Subject: secret messages

In reply to Ethan's? message:
        About two years ago I also noticed the fact that future titles
were showing up on the immediately previous album.  Makes you wonder what
we'll get the next time around.

        P.S.  Anyone out there willing to take a guess at what the new album
will be titled (assuming they keep this up?)

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 18:10:28 -0600 (MDT)
From: Big Earl Sellar <splitred@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca>
Subject: Huh?/First buys...

Howdy!

Um, Thomas Slack, I was referring to this Beatles thread that I kinda
initiated, not the righteous term "Chalkhillbillies". I should've started
that post better. By the way, I'm still having loads of fun with the
thread, but for cryin' out load, ENOUGH ALREADY! I'm sorry! You happy now?

Me first record purchase? KISS! And not just any Kiss album but DESTROYER!
I even bought the matching jig-saw puzzle a couple of years later!  And I
ain't embarrised at all! C'mon, I was *9*!

But, as I'm always proud to state, the *second* album I ever bought,
brand-spanking new, was Elvis Costello's THIS YEAR'S MODEL. And finally,
after 18 years(!) of being a fan, in August I finally get to see him.

Thanks for reading. Later...
EEEEEE         Big Earl Sellar                  | "The truth as you want to
EE              splitred@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca |  hear it? I can't do that.
EEEE            mersh@tibalt.supernet.ab.ca     |  You couldn't afford me."
EE                                              |  Keith Moon (R.I.P.)
EEEEEE                                          |

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Date: Wed, 14 Jun 1995 21:42:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Derek Miner <ind00163@pegasus.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: Compiled info on Radio Tour

Howdy, all!

Here is my collection of information on the XTC Acoustic Radio Tour.
Several sources were used to get this info, including a message in a
recent digest asking for some Acoustic Shows (sorry, I forgot the name),
and information at John Relph's Chalkhills home page.

XTC Acoustic Radio Tour

Below is a list of appearances XTC made during May, 1989, during their
"Acoustic Radio Tour." Several shows listed have had information pieced
together from several sources, and many could use more information (such as
station frequencies, time of day XTC appeared, corrections on dates, etc.).

* - means I (Derek Miner) have not heard this show.
Song titles in brackets were XTC songs played from records.

Show contents:

WBCN 104.3 FM Boston, Massachusetts (Monday 15 May 1989, 12-1 pm)
Scarecrow People
Senses Working Overtime/Grass/Love on a Farmboy's Wages
King for a Day
Mayor of Simpleton
Great Fire/Dear God/Big Day

WFNX 101.7 FM Lynn/Boston, Massachusetts (Monday 15 May 1989 approx.
6:35-7:10 pm)
Scarecrow People
Senses Working Overtime/Grass/Love on a Farmboy's Wages
Blue Beret
One of the Millions/Pink Thing/Garden of Earthly Delights
Mayor of Simpleton
King for a Day

WNEW 102.7 FM New York City, New York (Tuesday 16 May 1989, noon show)
Scarecrow People
Blue Beret
King For A Day
(Mayor of Simpleton)
(Chalkhills and Children)

*WDRE FM New York City, New York (Tuesday 16 May 1989)
Scarecrow People
Blue Beret
Great Fire/Dear God/Big Day
King For A Day
Senses Working Overtime/Grass/Love On A Farmboy's Wages

*WMMR FM Philadelphia, Pennsylvania (Wednesday 17 May 1989)
Scarecrow People
Great Fire/Dear God/Big Day
Blue Beret
Mayor Of Simpleton

*WPST 97.5 FM Camden, New Jersey (Wednesday 17 May 1989)
Scarecrow People
Mayor Of Simpleton
King For A Day
Senses Working Overtime/Grass/Love On A Farmboy's Wages

*WRFX FM Charlotte, North Carolina (Thursday 18 May 1989)
Senses Working Overtime/Grass/Love On A Farmboy's Wages
Mayor Of Simpleton
King For A Day
Great Fire/Dear God/Big Day
People Magazine Song/Collideascope

*WROO Charolette, North Carolina (Thursday 18 May, 1989)

*WDIZ 100.1 FM Orlando, Florida (Friday, 19 May 1989)
Scarecrow People
Senses Working Overtime/Grass/Love On A Farmboy's Wages
King For A Day

*WYNF 94.9 FM Tampa, Florida (Friday, 19 May, 1989

WXRT FM Chicago, Illinois (Monday 22 May 1989)
 from record: Generals and Majors
Scarecrow People
Great Fire/Dear God/Big Day
Blue Beret
Senses Working Overtime/Grass/Love On A Farmboy's Wages
King For A Day
 from record: Merely A Man
Mayor Of Simpleton
(Earn Enough For Us)

*KTCZ FM Minneapolis, Minnesota (Tuesday 23 May 1989)
Scarecrow People
Great Fire/Dear God/Big Day
Mayor Of Simpleton

*KABL FM Minneapolis, Minnesota (Tuesday 23 May 1989)
Blue Beret
Mayor Of Simpleton
King For A Day

*KLBJ FM Austin, Texas (Wednesday 24 May 1989)
(The Loving)
Scarecrow People
(Chalkhills and Children)
Mayor Of Simpleton
Great Fire/Dear God/Big Day
Blue Beret
(Poor Skeleton Steps Out)
King For A Day

*KFEZ (KPEZ?) FM Austin, Texas (Wednesday 24 May 1989)
Senses Working Overtime/Grass/Love On A Farmboy's Wages
King For A Day
(Generals and Majors)
(Making Plans For Nigel)
(Garden of Earthly Delights)

KDGE FM Dallas, Texas (Wednesday 24 May 1989)
Blue Beret
Scarecrow People
(One Of The Millions)
(Collideascope)
(The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul)
(Terrorism)
The Mayor of Simpleton
Senses Working Overtime/Grass/Love On A Farmboy's Wages

*KZEW Dallas, Texas (Thursday, May 25, 1989)

*Y95 Dallas, Texas (Thursday, May 25, 1989)

MTV (live on Post Modern MTV, Thursday 25 May 1989, evening)
Scarecrow People

*KLOL 101 FM Houston, Texas (Friday 26 May 1989)
King For A Day
Mayor Of Simpleton

*K--- 104.1 Houston, Texas (Friday 26 May 1989)
Scarecrow People
Senses Working Overtime/Grass/Love On A Farmboy's Wages

KROQ 106.7 FM Los Angeles/Pasadena, California (Monday 29 May 1989)
Scarecrow People
Mayor of Simpleton
Senses Working Overtime/Grass/Love on a Farmboy's Wages
Blue Beret
Great Fire/Dear God/Big Day
King for a Day
One in the Millions/Pink Thing/Garden of Earthly Delights

KIIS Los Angeles, California (Tuesday 30 May 1989)
King for a Day

K--- Live 105 San Francisco, California (30? May 1989)
 From record: Making Plans For Nigel
Generals and Majors
acoustic songs unknown

*Eastern Sound Studios Toronto, Canada (Wednesday 31 May 1989)
Senses Working Overtime/Grass/Love On A Farmboy's Wages
Great Fire/Dear God/Big Day
Scarecrow People
Blue Beret

Any comments are welcome!

        = Derek Miner =
        http://pegasus.cc.ucf.edu/~ind00163/

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Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 14:15:12 +0700
From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James)
Subject: hippies and sisters

A Backhouse mused:
>The Beatles were pretty good until the utterly unlistenable 'White' album
>(good bands make LPs, sad old hippies make 'albums').

Hmm... I'm sure John Lydon and the rest of PIL would be dead chuffed you
consider them sad old hippies. After all, their biggest seller was probably
"Album". Anyway, quite a lot of bands these days don't make LPs at all.
Cassette and CD only :(

ObXTC: Stupid question, I know, and one that's bound to have been asked
before, but I've noticed that Shriekback have occasionally used backing
vocalists called Wendy and Sarah Partridge. Are they any relation??? To
*Andy*, not to each other, dummy!

James

James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago.

Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand
pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807

   * You talk to me as if from a distance
   * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time,
   * from another time                     (Brian Eno)

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From: Sowsij@aol.com
Date: Thu, 15 Jun 1995 00:37:48 -0400
Subject: Hey, Look Look Here

My Friends,

I happen to have three videos which I am willing to make copies of in trade
for other videos.

The first is a collection of videos which includes:

This is Pop?
Statue of Liberty
Are you recieving me?
Life begins at the Hop
Making Plans for Nigel
Towers Of London
Respectable Street
Generals and Majors
All of a sudden (It's too late)
Ball and  Chain
Senses Working overtime
Along with interviews and their thoughts on each song and video as it goes.

Yes, you heard right. I am not sure if this is the elusive "Look Look"
because it just had a yellow cover with a picture of the four (when Terry was
still there, God love 'em) and it says
"XTC  collection " in archaic letters.

The second I have two copies of the exact same thing...when I found them in
New York they had different covers so I thought that they were two different
things but that is okay because now I have one to give away!!!

What this second video has on it is a whole concert from the "English
Settlement" Tour with the great chalk horse behind them .  It was taken from
German television. So the announcer and the history of XTC which they speak
about in the middle are in German but it's cool anyway. After the concert is
an interview with the boys THEN after THAT is footage of them in the studio
working on "Mummer" interspliced with almost ALL their videos from the last
collection I spoke of PLUS a video for "Wonderland" !!!!

The third video I have is a little Number from 1982 called
"URRGH - A Music War "  which besides having all THE bands
 from 1981 it also has XTC performing "Respectable Street"
and then joining the Police at the end . Andy and Sting. Too cool!!!

Now..... I NEEED VIDEO . I would like to have "Dear God" and
"The Ballad of Peter Pumpkinhead" and most of all my favorite
"The Mayor of Simpleton" I also want that MTV 120 min. thing and
AAAAANNNNYYYthing with them moving on it.

I have a CD of them doing two different Radio shows in Boston
on the same CD also if someone wants a copy and they have something to trade.
Especially if it is Andy's Hello recordings CD.

Look Forward to all the mail. Let's make a deal.
"Happy, I'm floating around on my feet"
Jason Pumpkinhead

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