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              Chalkhills Digest, Number 416

                  Thursday, 9 March 1995

Today's Topics:
                      Mitchell Froom
                    The Barron Knights
                    Re:  Baron Knights
                    Punk Bands and XTC
                    Re: Barron Knights
                 What does "Grass" mean?
          Re: Re: How Many English Settlements?
               Re:Mr P & The Baron Knights
                 Chalkhills and Children
                    Drums And Wireless
  Barron Knights (or: Yet more useless info from James)
                         touring
        Re: A.P.'s Wireless Intro:  Baron Knights?
                "No Language In Our Lungs"
                Grass/Giles Giles & Fripp
                  Re: English Settlement
                      Barron Knights
                Re: Chalkhills Digest #415
                          Grass
                           A.P.
           Lilac Time record produced by Andy?
                  "All You Pretty Girls"
                   The Dukes yet again
                 Andy's EP/personal comp.
                   Settlment..settle it

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From: GOOSENMK@ctrvax.Vanderbilt.Edu
Date: Tue, 07 Mar 1995 00:15:38 -0600 (CST)
Subject: Mitchell Froom

I've been very amused to see the groundswell of support among Chalkhillians
in favor of Mitchell Froom manning the controls for the next XTC album,
since most of the folks on the Richard Thompson list spend their time
bitching about what a terrible job he's done with the last four RT albums!
Personally, I like Froom and think he'd do fine service for XTC, but
then again, I like _Oranges and Lemons_ just fine too, so you might take
my opinion with a grain of salt or a dash of lime, whatever suits you.

--Miles Goosens

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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 95 10:56:06 GMT
From: Toby Howard <toby@cs.man.ac.uk>
Subject: The Barron Knights

They were (and perhaps still are) a UK pop impressions band, who would
mimic current hits with replacement silly lyrics. I actually have some
vinyl 45s of theirs from the mid-late-sixties, where they parody the
Beatles and the Stones, based around the ideas of the bands being recruitd
into the army ('Call up the groups' is the name of the song I
think). They're actually good mimics. I think they're still around, doing a
show on the BBC's Radio 2 station. They never made the big time, being more
of a club cabaret band (in US maybe the equivalent is a 'bar band').

God, the things I know!!

Toby

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From: dss@minster.york.ac.uk
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 95 13:50:42
Subject: Re:  Baron Knights

> Were (are) the Baron Knights a contemporary of XTC?

The Baron Knights were a British band who started out in the Sixties
playing "humourous" cover versions of songs from the pop charts.
The humour usually lay in the alternative lyrics they wrote, often
involving plays on words or phrases from the original lyrics.  Their
records were generally medleys of such songs, usually with a common theme.

The last one I can remember was in the early Eighties: it had a school
theme and included versions of "Another Brick in the Wall" (Pink Floyd)
and "Wired for Sound" (Cliff Richard).  They may well still be in existence,
touring on the British club circuit like so many other Sixties bands,
but I don't think they record any more.

Andy's reference to XTC (not) being 1979's answer to the Baron Knights
was, I think, just typical Andy humour.  He probably singled them out
as an example of a lightweight pop band of the kind which would
definitely not have been featured on John Peel's radio shows.

This and the reference to England's Glory (matches) in this list some
time ago made me wonder how many other references there are in XTC's
lyrics which have our American cousins mystified.  One that comes to
mind is from "Red Brick Dream" where "Castles and Kings" were classes
of steam locomotive (but you had probably worked that out already).

Can anyone think of any others?

Dave

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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 08:40:10 -0600
From: mheibel@lps.esu18.k12.ne.us (Micah Heibel)
Subject: Punk Bands and XTC

I don't find it odd that many people listed punk bands as their favorites
as well as XTC.  If you were a youth in the late 70's XTC were liked by a
lot of the same people who were into the Buzzcocks, the Clash, the Jam,
etc., etc.  It all made sense if you were there, trust me.

Micah Heibel

"My father always said laughter was the best medicine.  Maybe that's why
several of us died of tuberculosis."  ---  Jack Handey

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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 17:19:50 +0000 (GMT)
From: William HamBevan <whambeva@jesus.ox.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: Barron Knights

>Were the Baron Knights a contemporary of XTC? If so, what was Mr. P.
>alluding to?

Ah, the Barron Knights (sic). They were a rather shabby looking band who
started out as a serious outfit, but ended up playing parodies of current
pop songs in the 70s and early 80s. I don't remember many of their
songs, but I recall that among their hits was a parody of The Brotherhood
of Man's 1977 hit 'Angelo' (which was, in turn, a near-plagiarism of
Abba's 'Fernando')

They became the darlings of Daytime TV in the U.K., and were reeled out
at intervals on shows such as 'Nationwide' and 'Pebble Mill at One'. The
last I recall hearing of them was a song called 'Mr Rubik', which was
about the craze of the moment, the 'Rubik's Cube'.

After this, they plunged back into the obscurity of the cabaret circuit.
I vaguely remember seeing an ad for a reunion performance at some dive in
Swansea, South Wales, in the early 90s.

This should give some indication of what Andy was on about! His words in
the intro, I assume, are a snide comment to counter the comments often made
by the music press that XTC were no more than parodying new-wave, and were too
'clever' and 'art-house'. Or something.

Anyone want to start an 'alt.music.barron_knights'? No, I didn't think so.

Cheers,

William HamBevan,
Jesus College, Oxford.
(whambeva@jesus.ox.ac.uk)

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From: tpeters@sas.upenn.edu (Troy C Peters)
Subject: What does "Grass" mean?
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 14:14:54 -0500 (EST)

        In response to Melissa's query in #415:

        I've always thought "Grass" was about BOTH Andy's penis and a
newborn baby.  Just a thought. . .

                        Troy

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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 12:25:42 -0700
From: rushton@primenet.com (Mark Rushton)
Subject: Re: Re: How Many English Settlements?

In Chalkhills # 415 John Relph <relph@presto.ig.com> wrote in response to a
query by Jessica Pumpkinhead:

>There are MANY versions of _English Settlement_.
>First, there were three versions:
>  1) the original UK double album with 15 songs
>  2) the US single LP with ten songs
>  3) the French single LP with ten songs
>Most Americans who bought the 1982 US release were later surprised to
>find out that there were actually five more songs on the UK version.
>(And they were NOT filler.  Harummph.)

I remember buying the US version of _English Settlement_ in 1982 when it
came out only because I could not obtain the UK 2 record set.  A couple
months later a copy came in to my local store and I eventually traded or
sold the cheap, crappy-sounding US version.  I was a big fan of magazines
such as Trouser Press, and it was common knowledge that Virgin's US
distributor (was it Epic?) butchered the album.

The US album had ten songs, a chartreuse green cover, and (I believe) no
lyric sheet or pictures.  The UK double-album set has fifteen songs, a dark
green cover with textured paper, and very classy lyric sheet with nice
photos.  Of course the sound quality of the UK release is far superior
because there are only 3 or 4 songs per side as opposed to the five crammed
on each side of the US album.  Even though I have the CD (which is, IMHO,
still crappy without the nice sleeve) I have kept the UK double-vinyl set
for lyrics, credit, photos, and overall sentimentality.

Newer fans may not remember that the early 1980's were a tough time for the
music business.  Record companies were blaming everything from imports to
home taping to even video games (!) for loss of revenue.  The companies were
truly paranoid during these days.  So you can see how some bean counter
might regard a "quirky English pop band" that sold only around
100,000-200,000 or so copies (before ES) in the US as not worthy of an
expensive sleeve or extra vinyl album.  (which makes me think how the hell
the Clash ever got away with releasing "Sandinista!" but that's another
story..........)

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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 19:11:22 +0000 (GMT)
From: David William Lawson <dwl1@st-andrews.ac.uk>
Subject: Re:Mr P & The Baron Knights

 The Baron Knights mentioned by Andy at the start of "Drums and wireless"
were the one hit wonders behind the 1960's smash hit (in the UK), "Snoopy
Vs. the Red Baron" a song that told the tale of how Germanys premiere
fighter ace of WW1 was blown out of the sky by "A dog with a big black
nose", or somthing to that effect.
 I honestly cant remember anything else except the courus,
     "10-20-30-40-50 or more
     The bloody Red Baron was roling up the score..."

 Now I think of it I do belive that Snoopy was quoted as saying, "curses,
foiled again" at some point.
 Their is of course one glaring obstical to XTC being "1979's answer to
the Baron Knights" in that most British people could tell you who the
Baron knights were...
                     Dave

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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 95 15:32:25 EST
From: patty@gdb.org (Patty Haley)
Subject: Chalkhills and Children

Andy said:

> "Chalk Hills (sic) and Children":  "This is largely about my rejection
> of the rock 'n' roll lifestyle.  I'm mundane.  I like to gravitate toward
> the kids, privateness (sic).  I'm not into fame at all.  When I get a
> slightly swelled head, it's nice to be punctured and drift down to earth
> and become stable again.  Show business is really a dream and not what
> life's about.  Life's about the glorious everyday.  It's not really me
> when I'm treated like a famous person.  This is real-life.  Earth-colored."

Jason Langley said:

> While watching "The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe" with my daughter, I
> heard Lucy exclaim that the White Witch had cast an evil spell over Narnia
> making it "Always Winter and Never Christmas".  Assuming Andy got the phrase
> from "The Lion the Witch and the Wardrobe", the XTC song "Always Winter Never
> Christmas" is a clever twist sprung from the phrase.
>
> Translated for all you aspiring songwriters: Chrildrens books can be a
> good source of inspiration.

Jason mentions children's books as a good source of inspiration, but I say
it's *children* and anything related, at least where Andy's concerned.
I'd never have known about "The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe" had
Jason not mentioned this, having no kiddies meself, but I was also surprised
to see the mention by Andy during that 120 Minutes show that Peter Pumpkinhead
was brought about because he'd carved a jack o' lantern for his kids and
didn't want to throw it out after Halloween was over, so he put it on a pike
in the backyard and watched it rot.  The quote above from Andy's _O and L_
comments show us how important his children are to him, and of course there
are songs like "Garden of Earthly Delights," "Pink Thing," and "Holly Up on
Poppy," dealing with his kids.  I think his children have a *lot* more to do
with his songwriting than meets the eye.  I'm sure there are several more
examples of this that I can't think of, or that we don't know about, but it
was *very* obvious when _Oranges and Lemons_ came out that Andy was a dad.
"Hold Me My Daddy" is another example--he's being a daddy and holding his
son, yet writing a song about being a child to his father.

 From John Nicholls:

> I asked him all the q's sent to me, and I will be transcribing them
> when I have time at work.  I'll transcribe them verbatim, without any
> journalistic attempt to clean up what was by all accounts a chatty
> conversation.  So please excuse any disjointed flow - it's quite an
> education to sit here listening to the tapes (4 hours, ohmigod) and
> realise how a conversation rambles and goes off at tangents.  I've
> removed some of the tangents for brevity ...

John, thank you!  I'm sure we'd all much rather read them verbatim and
share your education with you.

> To the Dutch(?) member who wrote to me personally and asked for
> Swindon B+B phone nos, please send your message again, I've lost it,
> many apologies.

OK, I'm doing England this May, so if you've got that list, can you
forward it my way as well, as I'd like to see Swindon for myself?  Thanks.
If anyone who's been to Swindon has any tips, I'd be very grateful.  I'm
certainly not going to try to find out where they live and knock on doors,
but I would like to see the town (maybe check out a few places on Colin's
Go2 map) and get a feel for what it's like.  I'm doing the town tour this
time around, and Swindon's a natural choice.

> If you think of the history of the band, both last two fourth members
> of the band left when they started writing songs - Barry Andrews and
> Jonny Perkins.  Their days were numbered from that point onwards...

Jonny Perkins?  Can someone please enlighten me as to who he was?  A
Helium Kid, perhaps?

Melissa Reaves says:

> and I asked myself what gives?  He's happily married.  His other songs show
> an enlightened respect for women so I figured these songs came out of the
> joy of the wordplay more than any anger against women but I wonder if there
> was something provoking him over the years.  Anyone?

Melissa, for shame!  He *was* happily married.  I think that it's been
mentioned the divorce is final now.  I don't think that Andy's songs about
women are all personal--so many songwriters write songs that have *nothing*
to do with their own lives (geez, am I totally taking back the whole bit I
wrote about Andy being a dad here, or what?).  I don't look at every song
Andy or Colin writes as personal, although of course lots of it must be.
I can't see how they wouldn't pen songs that reflect what's happened to
someone else, or something they've read about, that sort of thing.

I was in the D.C. burbs this weekend record shopping when a friend pointed
out to me a small poster on the side of a bookcase:  XTC at Gaston Hall on
Thursday, January 24, 1979.  Special guests:  Fingerprintz.  Fingerprintz!
Wow!!!! What a double feature.  Their album _Distinguishing Marks_ has some
*great* power pop on it.  And hell, now that I think about it, Bogdan
Wiczling would be a fine choice in my book for thumping the tubs on
the next XTC LP.  I know he went onto be one of Adam Ant's two drummers 10
years ago, but have no idea what happened to him after that.  But wow!  I'm
sure this is the concert the other friend saw back when he saw XTC 3 times.
And I asked him who the opening band were, and he couldn't remember. Bad boy!

The same friend I was with is also an XTC fan, and we were in a Tower Records
later that afternoon, and he asked me about the BBC concert CD and if he
should buy the Canadian (I think that's what it was) version, which is *much*
cheaper than the import of the same CD.  I told him no, that he should find
a boot CD of the same concert, simply because "I'll Set Myself on Fire" is
on the boot.  Does anyone know why such a *superb* song was left off the
official CD?  The live version of this song, erm, smokes!  I can listen to
that song a dozen times in a row and not blink.  It is that good.  This song
isn't in the song listing on the Chalkhills page, so if anyone knows what
it is that they're chanting at the end, can you *please* let me know, as
I'm stumped.  I convinced him to hunt down the boot CD instead.

Last but not least, thanks, thanks, thanks to all who have so graciously
given of their time and opinions for my survey.  Even my professor, a woman
who won't even use voicemail, is excited about the responses I've gotten so
far to #20.  I've had a real education reading them, and quite a few good
laughs, too!  Phil, your kid brother the writer has *nothing* on you unless
hilarity runs in the family.  I will post answers to #1-19 soon, and #20
after I've had time to write my paper.  One last plea:  March 15th is
the deadline, so if you're willing/able to help, please let me know your
answers.  I'll happily supply questions again to those who`ve deleted the
digest containing the questions.  I couldn't do this project without you!

-Patty

Catherine Wheel World Wide Web Home Page:
http://gdbdoc.gdb.org/~patty/CW/CW_home_page.html
"Me and the wind are celebrating your loss."

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From: Mikewheel@aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 20:10:11 -0500
Subject: Drums And Wireless

"Drums And Wireless" is availabe from CDnow, the internet music store for
$20.97.  It seems like a lot of people are having a hard time finding it.  To
accesss CDnow telnet to cdnow.com.  I ordered "The Dub Experiments" from
CDnow also for $20.97  CDnow has 34 XTC CDs including several bootlegs, but
they don't have the new Demos CDs.  They also have "Look Look" but it's
around $60

Mike Wheeler

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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 14:18:44 +1300
From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)
Subject: Barron Knights (or: Yet more useless info from James)

From: Hae007@aol.com

>At the conclsuion of the "Opening speech" on Drums and Wireless, Mr. P says
>that "XTC... is here to answer all allegations that they're 1979's answer to
>the... "Baron Knights".
>I assume he was being "clever" in that XTC provides rewarding night time
>entertainment (i.e. barren nights) but that's a guess.  Were (are) the Baron
>Knights a contemporary of XTC?  If so, what  was Mr. P alluding too?  Are we
>obliged to now lurk within alt.music.baron_knights posting rogue messages for
>them to fret(less?) about?

The Barron Knights were (are?) a parody band, taken to doing pisstake
covers of well known acts, much like Weird Al Yankovich. Their best known
tracks include a "cover" of Boney M's "Rivers of Babylon" called "Dentist
in Birmingham", and one of the Bellamy Brothers' "If I said you had a
beautiful body" called "If I jumped into the back of your lorry". If you
haven't heard them, you haven't missed much, unless you're a big fan of
parody/filk songs. They were quite popular in the late '70s.

James

James Dignan, Department of Psychology, University of Otago.

Ya zhivu v' 50 Norfolk St., St. Clair, Dunedin, New Zealand
pixelphone james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz / steam megaphone NZ 03-455-7807

   * You talk to me as if from a distance
   * and I reply with impressions chosen from another time, time, time,
   * from another time                     (Brian Eno)

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Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 18:42:19 -0800
From: kgervasi@ix.netcom.com (Karen Gervasi)
Subject: touring

Ever?

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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 03:05:56 +0000
From: robt@atlas.co.uk (Robert Telford)
Subject: Re: A.P.'s Wireless Intro:  Baron Knights?

>At the conclsuion of the "Opening speech" on Drums and Wireless, Mr. P says
>that "XTC... is here to answer all allegations that they're 1979's answer to
>the... "Baron Knights".
>I assume he was being "clever" in that XTC provides rewarding night time
>entertainment (i.e. barren nights) but that's a guess.  Were (are) the Baron
>Knights a contemporary of XTC?  If so, what  was Mr. P alluding too?  Are we
>obliged to now lurk within alt.music.baron_knights posting rogue messages for
>them to fret(less?) about?

The Barron Knights were, if I recall correctly, a rather irritating comedic
band that were popular in Britain through the sixties and seventies (reach
for my ageing copy of the 'Guinness Book of British Hit Singles' to confirm
they had five top ten chart hits between 1964 and 1983). I think they used
to wear sweaters, if that's any indication of their music. They faded from
view in the eighties; for all I know they may still be touring British
seaside resorts - anyone know what happened to them?

I think Andy was making a joke.

cheerz,

Rob

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From: Mikewheel@aol.com
Date: Tue, 7 Mar 1995 23:45:40 -0500
Subject: "No Language In Our Lungs"

I've always liked the line "I would have made this instrumental but the words
got in the way" from "No Language In Our Lungs" but I never fully understood
it until just now.

Is Andy saying he would have made it instrumental as in music without words?
Or does it mean he would have made it instrumental as in something that has
an affect over others?  Pretty cool double meaning, I like it more than the
double meanings of "Pink Thing" and "Grass" but that's just me.

Mike Wheeler

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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:51:12 +1100
From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)
Subject: Grass/Giles Giles & Fripp

From: Melissa <MREAVES@KENTVM.KENT.EDU>
>Re 60's music--any and all Dukes fans and other sixties music fans are invited
>to enjoy "The Cheerful Insanity of Giles, Giles and Fripp" (1968). My husband
>(who is _not_ an XTC fan) played it for me to get back at me for making him
>listen to the Dukes. It's hilarious! It's fun! It's James Dignan-approved! ...

:) What can I say :)

Oh, and re: Grass. Yeah, I think it probably is a deliberate
double-entendre. But also, since I think the band has made it clear that
they don't do drugs any more it may be a case of "shit! did we REALLY do
crazy things like this???" - It would shock you, too...

James

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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 22:52:41 +1100
From: james.dignan@stonebow.otago.ac.nz (James Dignan)
Subject: Re: English Settlement

From: IERANO_J@DD.PALMER.EDU

>James Dignan mentioned the double album version of ES; I have a copy and it is
>stamped on the back as "limited edition". "Don't lose your temper is not on
>it, and I am surprised to read that he thinks the extra tracks are "filler".
>At the very least, they are juicy, sctumptious filler. :-)

Yeah, that comment got up a few nostrils, didn't it... I suppose it's just
that I got used to the single album and liked the flow of it. Sure, some of
the other songs are good. Sure, I like "It's nearly Africa". But I can't
bring myself to like "Leisure". I'm off to stick my head in a bucket of
cold porridge as a penance.... (or worse, to listen to Whitney Houston...)

James

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From: REELGEORGE@aol.com
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:22:36 -0500
Subject: Barron Knights

   Someone was wondering about the Barron Knights reference in the spoken bit
prefacing the Drums & Wireless CD. Andy was refering to a musical comedy
group in the UK called the Barron Knights who were popular from 1964 through
1983, charting about a dozen times. They would take currently popular songs
and do parodies of them, working several into a topical peice about 4 minutes
long. The singles are really funny and the band was never taken seriously.
It's like saying that Bill Clinton is the Democrats answer to Ernest Goes To
Washington. Get the idea? By the way, the intro by Andy was a dead-oon parody
of John Peel's opening to his program and was recorded cheekily enough, for
XTC's Peel session for October 8th of 1979.

George Gimarc
Punk Diary 1970-'79

PS. Thanks to those ordering "Adventure Club" CDs. I've got plenty left for
stragglers and don't expect to run out for several months. On it you'll find
the only authorized release of "Blue Beret" a unique XTC track from their
acoustic tour.

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From: AMANION@rex.mnsmc.edu
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 1995 11:59:12 GMT-6
Subject: Re: Chalkhills Digest #415

Hi Folks,

I've been reading Chalkhills for a few weeks now (lurking in the virtual
corners) and have enjoyed the entries. This is my first contribution. I,
like others on the list, am a college professor (psychology) who has been
listening to XTC since Making Plans for Nigel way back in the 1970's. It's
true, not all of us were donning the disco white or the punk fatigues.
Perhaps that's why XTC never got the airplay they deserved in the States --
too difficult to pigeon hole.

Anyhow, here is something for consideration. The XTC sound changed
dramatically with the departure of drummer Terry Chambers. I acknowledge
that this event coincided with producer changes. I also acknowledge that
XTC has had some great drummers since Terry (listen, for example, to "The
Man Who Sailed Around His Soul," "Shake You Donkey Up," "Train Running Low
on Soul Coal," and many others). However, I do miss his style of drumming.
Black Sea is my favorite XTC album and I attribute a good deal of that to
the drumming on songs like Paper and Iron, Sgt. Rock, Living Through
another Cuba, Travels... The man hit the drums with an intensity and
originally that served XTC perfectly.  I'd love to hear reunion music that
included him.

To other things...I must disagree with the assertion that the additional
songs on the double LP version of English Settlement are "filler." Nearly
Africa has, in my opinion, some of the best lyrics that Andy has ever
written, I love Yacht Dance (again, Terry does wonders with 6/8 time).
O.K., Fly on the Wall is not exactly classic but these additional songs
belong on this album (which is how XTC intended it).

I look forward to future Chalkhills exchanges.

Cheers,
Andy

We're dancing with disaster and the first will be the last...

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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 95 12:55 EST
From: Jeffrey Langr <0005392548@mcimail.com>
Subject: Grass

From: Melissa <MREAVES@KENTVM.KENT.EDU>:

M> Another question.  Listening to Skylarking today and recalling someone
M> talking about the song Grass as if it were a drug song.  Forgive my
M> naivete about such matters but I always figured it for a celebration of
M> al fresco lovemaking.  So I'm wondering.  How many out there think it's
M> about drugs and how many think it's about sex and how many think it's a
M> brilliant work of double entendre that can only be appreciated if you
M> look at it both ways?

Grass is about pot as much as Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is about LSD,
or Hey Jude is about heroin.  Or, rather, Grass is about romping as much as
Lucy in the Sky with Diamonds is about a kids' picture or Hey Jude is about
John's son Jules (Julian).

-- Jeff

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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 95 12:55 EST
From: Jeffrey Langr <0005392548@mcimail.com>
Subject: A.P.

Alternative Press (AP -- not Andy Partridge here) printed responses to a
reader's poll in the latest issue.  Scanning it I noted that XTC got runner
up in the category of best album cover of all time, for Skylarking...  (I
think the Sex Pistol's Never Mind The Bollocks and Sonic Youth's Daydream
Nation (?) got the top honors).  I didn't look at all the q's, perhaps they
got recognized elsewhere...

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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 95 10:17:32 EST
From: patty@gdb.org (Patty Haley)
Subject: Lilac Time record produced by Andy?

Hi everyone:

I was browsing the cutout section in a record store last night
and noticed a cassette by The Lilac Time.  I seem to recall
one of their records, or at least a song was produced by Andy.
Can someone please holler my way what the album was titled,
and what year it came out?  I've got to be *real* careful with
money of late, and although music is a necessity, not a luxury,
I want to make sure every penny spent on ear candy is worth it.

Thanks.

-Patty (Listening to _The Big Express while I type this)
"I give emotion at the drop of a hat."

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From: mallende@Phoenix.kent.edu (Allender Mark)
Subject: "All You Pretty Girls"
Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 12:02:18 -0500 (EST)

Try as i might, i am unable to really figure out "All You Pretty
Girls" from _The Big Express_.

I don't get it.

Call me stupid or whatever.

A friend even thinks it's sexist.
(i think she's full of shit)

Any clues?
                                        uh...

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Date:         Thu, 09 Mar 95 13:40:33 EST
From: Melissa <MREAVES@KENTVM.KENT.EDU>
Subject:      The Dukes yet again

A great big thank you to whoever it was that mentioned seeing The Dukes
Chips from the Chocolate Fireball at Best Buys real cheap.  As much as
I've loved Psonic Psunspot all this time, I've never had the 25 O'Clock
bit due to a lack of a CD player.  Now I've got one of sorts and now I've
got the Chips compilation and I am a very happy person.

Those first Dukes songs are absolutely brilliant!!  I know I'm preaching
to the choir here but anyone else who's held out NEEDS to check this stuff
out.  Nuff said.  Just had to say this 'cause y'all are the only folks
on the planet who'll listen to and appreciate such talk.

Each timer that I break will halt the flowing sands
Each timer that I break will put you in my hands.

--The Purple Paisley Wonder (aka Melissa)

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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 14:43:15 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jay E. Scott" <jescott@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Andy's EP/personal comp.

Greetings, one and all!  My name is Jay, I am new to this list and
overjoyed to be aboard.  I have a dub of Andy's Hello CD, but would love
to own the genuine article.  I don't subscribe to Hello - a friend of
mine does and after hearing many of the discs, I decided against
joining.  I'm paying for it now, though.  Does anyone out there in
Chalkhills land own an extra copy that they would be willing to part
with?  If not, does anyone know of any alternate sources I could search
to obtain it?

And now...
I have recently compiled a personal four-volume anthology of XTC on
cassette for spring break ease.  (I don't own a portable CD player yet.)
I also compiled a fifth volume from the anthology which contains (some
of) my favorites as of this week.  For those interested, here is a
listing from that volume.  I am also interested in other fan's favorite
tunes/albums, so if anyone else would like to jump on the bandwagon, don't
be shy:

Side 1:                         Side 2:
Are You Receiving Me?           Seagulls Screaming Kiss Her, Kiss Her
Helicopter                      You're The Wish You Are I Had
Complicated Game                My Love Explodes
Wait Till Your Boat Goes Down   Earn Enough For Us
Don't Lose Your Temper          Big Day
Burning With Optimism's Flames  Another Satellite
No Language In Our Lungs        Brainiac's Daughter
Runaways                        King For A Day
Heaven Is Paved With Broken..   Poor Skeleton Steps Out
Toys                            Living In A Haunted Heart
Great Fire                      The Good Things
Deliver Us From The Elements    Blue Beret
                                Dear Madam Barnum
                                Wrapped In Grey

Anyone else do this kind of stuff?  I'll look for it...

Jay

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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 1995 15:20:14 -0500 (EST)
From: "Jay E. Scott" <jescott@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Settlment..settle it

Can someone in the know please clear up the English Settlement mystery.
I was 12 when it was released and I didn't really get into XTC until
Oranges & Lemons, but this is what I've been able to gather.
Referring to U.S. only:
English Settlement was released as a single album with only 10 tracks.
Someone posted in the last digest that it did not contain both Senses and
Ball, but it did.  (I didn't know about the accompanying EP.)  The U.S.
version was released on Virgin/Epic before Virgin America either went
under or changed distibutors yet again.  Someone else posted that Don't
Lose Your Temper was included on some pressings.  DLYT was originally
released as the b-side of Generals & Majors, so why would it have been
included on ES?
The original U.S. track line-up was Side 1: Runaways/Ball And Chain/Senses
Working Overtime/Jason & The Argonauts/Snowman; Side 2: Melt The Guns/No
Thugs In Our House/It's Nearly Africa/English Roundabout/All Of A Sudden
(It's Too Late).
If I'm inaccurate about any of this, I'm sure no one will hesitate to
tell me.
Jay

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