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Subject: Chalkhills #163

                  Chalkhills, Number 163

                   Sunday, 9 June 1991
Today's Topics:
                     Chalkhills #162
                     Funk Pop A Roll
                  Re: oranges and lemons
                Love on a Farmboy's Wages
                    No News is No News

Date: Tue, 28 May 91 09:50:36 BST
From: Toby Howard <>
Subject: Chalkhills #162

2 quickies:

1. AP Skylarkling interview disc is on sale her for #25 ($50?). Is it worth

2. Making plans for andy CD -- what's on it and is it worth it?

Thanks peeps


Subject: Funk Pop A Roll
Organization: Department of Chemistry, Tokyo Institute of Technology, JAPAN
Date: Tue, 28 May 91 20:02:58 +0900
From: Yuji `RUSHER' Chikahiro <>

Subject: Re: RUSHER's musical observations (Re: Chalkhills #158) (Duane Day) wrote:
> RUSHER writes:
>>For  example, "Funk Pop A Roll" is played in G-lydian (someone might
>>express  it  as A7th on G). I have never heard tunes written in such
>>unstable  scale.
> I'd think of this as being basically in A mixolydian, with the bass
> shifting between G and A.  This makes the most sense to me - it makes
> the D and E chord in each verse a straight IV V progression, resolving
> to I (A, except with the bass going back and forth between G and A.)

  You say that the tonic of "Funk Pop A Roll" is A7(mixo), as well as
  the subdominant is D7 and the dominant is E7, don't you?
  I mind you are consistent as far as this dominant motion you mentioned.
  But natural it is for my ears that the tonic key = Dmaj whether Collin
  plays D7.

> This month's issue of _Keyboard_ (Patrick Moraz on the cover) has a
> nice column by Dave Stewart (Hatfield & the North, National Health,
> Bruford, Dave Stewart and Barbara Gaskin, etc.) which discusses
> this issue - I think it's referred to as "the naming wars" wherein
> you say to-may-toe, I say to-mah-toe, you say G11 no 3 no 5, I say
> F major/G bass, etc.

  When I would play just chord, I am sure to write the harmony as F/G,
  because I can push it at a glance easily. On the other hand if I would
  play also solo or so, I write it as adequate chord name for its scale.
  If you offer me a score written just F/G, how do I comprehend its
  available notes?

Subject: Re: Introduction (Re: Chalkhills #162)
John M. Relph <> wrote:
> Xian <>, neophyte XTC fan writes:
>>What are some other good CDs?
> Well, _Oranges and Lemons_ is good.

  I agree with you. Especially "Pink Thing" kids me. Did you notice
  humorous diminish scale where is below-mentioned underline?

	C         Ab dim       G/B C
	I want to take you out and show you around the world,

> _Mummer_ is really nice, except for "Funk Pop A Roll", which is
> awesome dance music.

  Then who in the world can compose such great song except for XTC? :^)

  - RUSHER <> # bye bye


From: Andy Holyer <>
Subject: Re: oranges and lemons
Date: Tue, 28 May 91 13:44:40 BST
Organization: Royal Free Hospital School of Medicine, London

Yes, "Oranges and Lemons" is a nursery rhyme. I learnt it when I was so
high, and I'm surprised that that's another bit of English culture that
didn't get across the Pond. For the literary among you, it plays quite a big
part in George Orwell's 1984. For the rest of you, another &mpersand
The rhyme is about the churches of London, and especially the sound of their
bells. I've actually recognised the tune in the carillion of some of them.
Now, I *hope* I get all these right; I haven't sung this since I was

Oranges and Lemons sang the bells of St Clement's
	--- St Clement Dane's which (I think) is in either Fleet St. or The
You owe me three farthings sang the bells of St Martins
	--- St Martin's in the Fields, one of my favourite Wren churches
	beside Trafalgar Square and the National Gallery. They have very
	nice Classical recitals there. And a very good craft market in the
	churchyard. Oh yes, and a farthing is 1/4 of an old penny, 1/960 of
	a pound.
When will you pay me sang the bells of Old Bailey
	--- The Old Bailey is the site of the central Law Courts. Most of
	the TV pictures of people after a major trial in London are taken
When I am rich sang the bells of Shoreditch
	--- Shoreditch is in the East End (think Walford) in what they now
	describe as "Docklands" (which is rather like NYC's South Street
	Seaport on Acid)
When will that be? sang the bells of Stepney
	--- Stepney is also in the East End. My Father grew up round there,
	but I avoid it when possible.
I do not know sang the Great Bell of Bow
	--- Bow is again in the East end, near to Tower Bridge. The bells of
	St Mary le Bow are famous. only those born within the sound od Bow
	bells can call themselves a cockney - and thus a true Londoner. This
	is why I am not a Londoner (I'm a Man of Kent) whereas my father
Here come the candle to light you to bed,
And here comes the chopper to -chop -off -your -head

This last bit has some riitual movements to go  with it that I don't feel up
to describing of the net. Someone else fancy a go?

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|   &  &      |(May 31st)    Royal Free Hospital School of Medicine,
|    &&       |		     Rowland Hill St.
|   &  &   &  |		     London NW3 2PF
|  &    & &   |		     England
| &      &    |      JANET:
| &     & &   |Voice:  (+44) 71 794 0500 x4233/ (+44) 71 794 5146
|  &   &   &  |From May 3rd, School of Cog. and Comp. Sci, Sussex University
|   &&&     & |I guess I'll then be


Date: Mon, 3 Jun 91 11:18:12 PDT
From: "WES WILSON, PKO3-2/T12, 223-4891" <>
Subject: Love on a Farmboy's Wages

Has anyone figured out "Love on a Farmboy's Wages" on the guitar?

I have _some_ of it down, but there are big sections which elude me.

First, I'm playing it with the usual e-a-d-g-b-e tuning and a capo
on the fourth fret. I know Andy uses a capo because I heard him
say so in the Acoustic Radio Tour WBCN segment.

Anyway, I use the position for the C maj chord with the capo on the
4th fret for the opening "High climbs the summer sun, high stands the

On "corn" I switch to a G maj and then it's immediately followed by
some kind of suspended G chord.

Why do I have the capo on the 4th fret? Because, for the most part,
a lot of the song is easier (for me) to play that way and it sounds
like the right timbre...I just can't get the chords in the bridge
begining with "People think that I'm no good..."



Date: Sun, 9 Jun 91 10:53:46 PDT
From: John M. Relph <>
Subject: No News is No News

Yes, it's true.  No news on the XTC front.  Geffen has delayed the
release of _Rag & Bone Buffet_ until July.  I haven't been able to find
_Lyrics by Ernest Noyes Brookings_ though it was supposed to be released
last Tuesday.

I went to the KFJC Record Swap this morning.  Lots of XTC singles (I
already had them).  I saw a copy of the flexidisc from Trouser Press.  I
didn't buy it though I probably should have.  $30 for the Three Wise Men
single.  $85 for a real copy of _Jules Verne's Sketchbook_.  No
bootlegs.  Nothing interesting.  Oh well.

	-- John


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