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Subject: Chalkhills #150

                  Chalkhills, Number 150

                  Tuesday, 23 April 1991
Today's Topics:
                   Re:  Chalkhills #149
               Any news on Terry Chambers?
                   Skylarking questions
                   Re: Chalkhills #149
            Announcing the Chalkhills Archives

Date: Thu, 18 Apr 91 11:12:43 -0400
Subject: Re:  Chalkhills #149

>        I _am_ a drummer, and I used to think little of Ringo.  Then I
>went back and _listened_ to albums like _Rubber Soul_ and _Magical
>Mystery Tour_, and I challenge anyone who doesn't think much of Ringo
>to do the same, and then compare him to the pop drummer of your choice.
>I think that those records can only lead one to the conclusion that
>Ringo is among the best pop drummers ever, if not _the_ best.

I think that Allan White (Yes) did the drums on these
fact I'm pretty sure that he did a lot of work on Sgt. Pepper's
as well.
-bobby maruvada


Date: Thu, 18 Apr 91 10:00:50 PDT
From: (James McGowan)
Subject: Any news on Terry Chambers?

In Chalkhills #149, John Relph adds his estimable two cents to the
raging debate on drummers:

> Apparently Terry
> really DID get bored, because they weren't touring, and recording
> sessions were few and far between.

Which leads me to the question:  Does anyone know if Terry is still
drumming, or should I say "making music" (lest I incur the wrath of
all those sensitive drummers on this list)?  From past Chalkhills, I
understand that he moved to Australia with his family.  Considering
Australia's healthy pop music scene, it seems likely that he could
land a spot with a good band, eh?

I'm more than just a little curious because I remember being
*extremely* impressed by Terry's drums the one time I saw XTC perform
live (Stone Club, San Francisco, ~1980).  I got backstage after
the gig and shook his hand, thinking "All that sound came from this
little guy?  Jesus!..."  Next time you listen to a Chambers-era XTC
album, notice how far "forward" in the mix Terry's drums are placed.
Good thing, too!  I believe he was/is one of the most rhythmically
intricate and unpredictable drummers around (I wonder if he ever
played jazz?  Hmm...).


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Date: Sun, 21 Apr 91 13:07:47 EST
From: (MEEP)
Subject: Skylarking questions

	I've seen a lot of discussion in back-issues of Chalkhills about the
concept behind *Skylarking*, how it was "ruined" by Todd Rundgren, etc.

	Now, maybe it's just me, but I have a tough time tying this album
to more than a loose concept (sort of general bittersweet nature of life),
and I have to admit, I think the production (both technical and artistic)
is uniformly excellent.  As a matter of fact, I would rank *Skylarking* as
my favorite piece of modern music (and tied for my second favorite of all time,
losing only to Beethoven's 9th and tying with Beethoven's 6th).

	So, what am I missing?  Is there something in the interviews (none
of which I have ever found) that reveals the shocking truth?  Or do people
just really dislike this album and try to cover by blaming it on Mr.
Rundgren?  I know that Colin Moulding quit the band at one point over
dispute with Rundgren, but the only *concrete* piece of meddling I know of
was the killing-off of "Dear God" (which, to my mind, doesn't belong on the
album anyway...I love "Dear God," but I don't feel it fits *Skylarking*).

	Would some kind soul enlighten me?  I'm sure I'll be flamed for
liking *Skylarking*, since it seems to have pariah status, but I'd like to
hear from you anyway, abusive or no.



Date:         Mon, 22 Apr 91 17:50:12 EDT
From: Mark Hessman <>
Subject:      Re: Chalkhills #149

     A few things :

     First of all, the price of *English Settlement* seems to have dropped
simultaneously with the re-releasing of the first 5 CDs.  I've seen it for
$12.99 recently (down from $15 or $16 previously).

     Two.  As an XTC fan but not (yet) a fanatic, I haven't heard most of
the extra CD-only tracks, and was wondering if anybody could give me
their opinions (which ones are the best, which are just filler, etc).
I'm most likely going to buy most of the newly-midline CDs eventually
(though probably not *D & W*, which never really appealed to me save
a few songs) but need to plan out which to buy first.  ;)

     Finally, in somewhat of an interesting turn -- one of the stores
I was checking prices at the other day had a small pile of records
they were giving away.  Rummaging through this stack, I came up with
a copy of *Big Express* in an old *Black Sea* green paper jacket.
I've actually never heard this one (the three songs on *Compact XTC*
did not impress me), so I picked it up.  Nothing to lose, eh?  ;)

                                                           -- Mark


Date: Tue, 23 Apr 91 14:17:50 PDT
From: John M. Relph <>
Subject: Announcing the Chalkhills Archives
Organisation: Chalkhills Anonymous

I am pleased to announce that the Chalkhills Archives are now online.
Access for the present is limited to anonymous FTP, which should
accomodate most of those on the Internet (about 80% of the list).
There may be a mail archive server available in the future; I will
keep you posted of the details as they become available.

Those who cannot get to the archive by FTP may continue to send file
requests to me at <> and I will fill
them as quickly as possible.

The contents of the archive are at present rather modest: a collection
of the Chalkhills digests; the lyrics files for the albums; and the

OK, here's the scoop: the archive is on the host (NOT where the list lives; presto is down the hall from
turbo, and they're both on the same Ethernet, but we run them for
different groups).  The IP address of is

The files are in the directory "chalkhills".  The file "00README" is
this file.  The file "Index" contains a listing of the Chalkhills
digests and their subjects.  The digests are found in the subdirectory
"digests" and are named "Digest.NNN" where NNN is the number of the
digest.  The other files available are the lyrics and discography

Here's a sample anonymous FTP session; those who are familiar with FTP
can skip over this part.  The sample shows a UNIX ftp client; the
dialogue may be slightly different for those on other implementations.

	% ftp
	Connected to
	220 FTP server (IG Version 5.79 (from BU, from
	  UUNET 5.51) Wed Feb 28 12:37:27 PST 1990) ready.
	Name ( anonymous
	331 Guest login ok, send ident as password.
	Password:    [ enter your e-mail ID ]
	230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply.
	ftp> ls -l
	200 PORT command successful.
	150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
	total 14			[ listing shortened for brevity ]
	drwxr-sr-x  2 113          4096 Apr 22 22:19 chalkhills
	drwxr-sr-x  2 242           512 Apr 19 23:07 jitr
	226 Transfer complete.
	remote: -l
	535 bytes received in 1.2 seconds (0.44 Kbytes/s)
	ftp> cd chalkhills
	250 CWD command successful.
	ftp> ls -l
	200 PORT command successful.
	150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for /bin/ls.
	total 1487			[ listing shortened for brevity ]
	-rw-------  1 113          2969 Apr 22 16:10 00README
	-rw-rw----  1 113         22622 Apr 22 22:10 Index
	-rw-------  1 113         15834 Apr 22 22:12 Skylarking
	226 Transfer complete.
	remote: -l
	9474 bytes received in 1.3 seconds (7.3 Kbytes/s)
	ftp> cd digests
	250 CWD command successful.
	ftp> get Digest.1
	200 PORT command successful.
	150 Opening ASCII mode data connection for Index (1665 bytes).
	226 Transfer complete.
	local: Digest.1 remote: Digest.1
	1714 bytes received in 0.12 seconds (12 Kbytes/s)
	ftp> quit
	221 CUL8R.

Please let me know if you have any problems with or suggestions for
the Chalkhills archives.


	-- John


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